 Welcome back, you're still watching one in the morning, right here on our two-fifth channel. I'm Brian Sako and I'm so excited that you're still hanging up with us. And remember, we had asked you a question on our social media regarding our MCM segment today, which is Mantuk Monday. Hello, Monday. We had asked you on social media in relation to Kevin Boyer's Ups and Downs. How many times have you been in a relationship with your friends? I'd like to tell you that the only thing you can do is to take a piece of or exit your relationship. First of all, if you're in a relationship like this, you're in a relationship like Fiti, the romance was romancing and then all of a sudden the servers are missing, Kedogokidogo, Amanzaku Kopiga in a traditional CDA, character development, Amanzaku Kopiga Katrika development, Hajibu Sim. And I'd say, I'm genuinely funny. When in this Boyer's case, this guy actually went to surprise the partner with flowers at work. I said, how far is too far? How much is too much when it comes to ensuring that a relationship works? And we have an amazing guest today or a panelist. You've seen them here before. But let me just remember your name. John Odwar. You said you're a journalist as well as a PR practitioner. And then we have Jackson Adung, not Odan. You're from Turkano, and also you are a media student at the University of Nairobi. Inglis Kando, Inglis Missing. Thank you for inviting me. Welcome. Happy New Year, by the way. Last time. So I think the first thing in the story, Kevin, boy, I know one thing you don't understand. Maybe it's a cloud chasing. You know how to ask myself that question? How do you ask my co-hosts in a kind of result? But that's a side now. Let's discuss it. That's a side from the true story. Yeah. So maramingi. So Jackson, have you ever been in search? The girl them is not gal deming. Yeah, maramingi. So of petty issues, just like my friend Odwar has said. Yes, petty issues like that. But do you need reason enough to convince me to moa chane? As in what happens through thick and thin? We need to understand the issues of co-hosting. People are in control. Use the issues of co-hosting, and it's better for you to know. Yeah. So about co-hosting, there's a relationship between a male and female. So it should be easy to raise the number of documents. So we should have a📸📷📷📷📷📷📷📷📷📷📷 barry, but that's not sure, it's a message. So I'm going to give you some of the documents, to help you Lisa tell me. Right. So, in the future, we will be more responsible. So, in the distance you can do anything. You can do anything you want. Oh, intentional. Intentional. Illegal, responsible. Yeah. But you're not in trouble. You're not depressed at all. You're not in moods. Of course, we're not in a good mood. We're not in a good mood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want us to take a break. I want us to take a break. I want us to take a break. We should take a break. Kill dog and come back. I don't know how the reason I like it. We are like, Hey, we need a break. And then so you break at the end. Come back one day, They say, oh, you can get to the streets are tough. And then you're ready. I think there's a lot of expectation in relationships. And it's not like you're overpromised. You're not promised to kill a kid. Yes, sir. And you're not promised to kill a kid. Oh, you're not. You're not promised to kill a kid. These guys say you're not going to psych them. Like, I'm not going to talk to them. Oh, no, no, no. I will walk through the ocean. I'll buy you an Indian ocean. I'll buy you a stream. I will die for you. But Jesus already died for us. So after some months, after some years, after some degradation, and I feel I'm going to choke. I don't know if it's going to be like that. So in a bid to have a better alternative. Right. And after a better option. So if you're going to die, you're going to say, ah, we need to have a break. But this relationship is up and down. So sometimes you're not vibing. You're not meant to be together. Right. You're not going to complain. You're not going to complain. You're not going to complain. So in a bid to have a break, we need to take a break. Because we're going to have positive breaks. Yeah. Like you believe in sin as a, as a take a break. Like you guys were toxic. Ha. Oh my goodness. This one landed me in trouble. Anyways, I'll not say it. Do you believe like, what one is a take a break after you're married? Or say, hey, there are many choices. I'm not gonna bow. You know. You're married. I'm not going to say it's better for us. For us here. Yeah. But then now what's happening to a point where you're not going to divorce, you're not going to take a break from each other. And what are we going to do? It's advisable. It's advisable. It's advisable. Sometimes it's common that this thing is not working. It's advisable for you to take a break. It's for the benefit of your help. Sometimes you need to be toxic to make a fight or anything. You don't want to take a break. Sometimes you take a break while having a break. Alright. So that's a problem. But in a relationship, we're not even in a relationship. We're in a situation. What about when you're 12? You're just a certified. And in fact, you guys are not solo mates, in fact. You guys are just testing the waters. So we're allowed. But you know Kevin, there is something you let me understand What kind of situations are those? How long have you been in a distant relationship? Yes, I was in Nairobi to Mumbai. I was with the one with the heart for what? For what? I don't remember exactly. Don't tell me on the hashtag one in the morning. I'm already in space for two. She has went with love. But she has come back with more love. But you know, I'm trying to actually imagine the situation in your surprising this chick. She's at her work place. And then it's her birthday. Yes, it's her birthday. So you're trying to surprise her and do all the things right as a man. And then all of a sudden you're met with this slap that, you know... So, she's at her work place. And then from the receipts I saw, the receipts seems like they're not coming from the chick and not the guy. If you're keen to look at the screenshots. But anyway, that's the story for another time. Do you believe or so as I take a break? What's the surprise Manziako job? Especially Kuala Lumpur's one in Nanga to the extreme. Okay, let's fix your mic. Answer that question, bro. Do you believe like it's okay? Personally, I remember, I used to, was it? Let me not mention the station. There's one of the colleagues, the husband kept on surprising her all the time, with flowers, cakes. And it was to show love to her. She was a talk show host on one of the shows. And it was even being shown on TV. Now La Vial, we make her strong, it's easy. Till now they still go very strong. And the husband is so... Like his love language is more surprises, gifts and all those nice things that, you know, bring this fantasy of love. You know, Kevin is different than you in Yonasema. I think maybe I can gaze in Yonasema. But Kevin is different. That's a long-distance relationship. Love to make her five months come, and then she'll have a child. These things sometimes, long-distance relationship don't work. Right, sometimes they don't work. They don't work. But they do. They do. So maybe you're them, sometimes I'm judge, but love to make her fit back up. I love you. But to come back, you are busy Nairobi, you don't have my time, as much as you love me. Now in Abidi, it's not advisable, but what you find is right. Right. So, when you have a husband, a wife, a husband, a husband, you see, it's not an offer. If you have a situation, it's not an offer. Sometimes, it's not a gift, it's a feel. Even you pity him or her. But, the situation is not an offer. All that money, as in who says no? Who says it's not all that money? All that money. But then, in some situations, when I quote Vice Vasa, it's the chick doing the surprises. I remember there's one of my friends, she was telling me, she used to do everything for her man, especially on his birthdays. I said, I don't want to pick her. I don't want to leave. I don't want to eat. I don't want to leave the job. But at the tail end, this guy finally never accepted her. He had someone else, when he had his eye on. So, at the end of the day, how can we balance so that it's going to be a boy child and a surprise? Is it possible to have also, you know, the girl, do the surprise? Is it possible? Do they even have the capacity to do that? But of course, there's a lot of good girls out here. They have the capacity? Or have the cheddar to do that? So many of them are doing that outside there. And we appreciate them for starting. But then there was that debate of, should a woman propose to a man? Yeah. And a lot of people said no. And then I think it's related to that. Like, would you accept a proposal from a lady going down on her knees with a ring and giving it to you saying, hi, can you be my one and only forever? It's weird. They're allowed to shoot their shirt. Oh, they're allowed. Yeah, they're allowed to shoot their shirt. Like, like sometimes, you know, issue in a letter, I keep telling you, I'm saying I like, I do like this idea. So many guys think that ladies are desperate when they are doing that. Yeah, I don't want to say that they are desperate. It's like you're only thinking of that. That you're only thinking about it. Ladies don't have that conversation. Right. They don't want them to feel like a man should be, they want to provide. Because it's natural. Yeah But, so many ladies are doing it, they are relationship are working. But there are times when it looks like sometimes and I provide because not a queen is a box. Maybe they see the main chick, Clevee, just use that word. So Anajari, we'll fight for her space. All right. All right. I'm going to tell you a little bit about the relationship. Like, are you sure it's me or two? It's very tiny. Now you're going to lead, if it means let's take a break. So yeah, I think it's good to have something, something like K.R.2, something like Oath. Like maybe Oasis. So yeah, like LAPDA PESA is good. If you are two or you are not surprised too, then anyway, I think it's good to have something with Oasis. So it's a good idea. I think it's good to have a nice exchange. We'll do that next time, I will do that. So, okay, cut out to you and I say, ah, you wish I send it, I get to show it, I send it, I say, I don't move on. Yeah. You know, I would say, hey, generally, when I go up on a viattu, then they say I'm going to ask a viattu. Which one? The first dough. Like, you know, I'm going to ask a viattu. And they say, I'm going to ask a pangasuk. So, I'm going to ask you to ask a basket. But anyway, I say, think people are different. But then, there are a few little petty issues to be expected from that jam. To an extent, it leads to, you know, to separate, you know. But, you know, we are raised differently. So, sometimes, see, at a time like that, sometimes you want to cut off the dough, you want to do it with him, say. Yeah, like a natural court case. You want to do it with a viattu, you want to know what you feel like, ah, this is the dough. You want to feel like this is not a big deal. But you want to know this is a big deal. So, with the time when I'm cut off, with the time when I'm like, ah, I'm straining. Like, I was having a good, good girl, perfect girl. But the issue was, now I'm a small thing and a type of man. You know, I'm a keyboard warrior. When I'm in my type lines, I'm a sub. I'm not like, I'm not a type here. So many of them once, I mess here. So, Like you don't know how much it means to them? Yeah. You. Yeah. So, To you it's minute, but to them it's a whole mountain. Yeah. So, I'm like, eh, but now, me and my friends, I'm here, who is the Bambikinaese staff. Ok, Mom, you can tell me, how many of you have been to 10 missed calls? Yeah. Ten messages, she's like, hey, I don't know, I don't know. She doesn't know. So I said, I need a break. And she said, this is a big deal. I was like, ah, me, me. She says she manages if it was okay. Yeah. But then how do you create a balance, before I come to you, Jackson, how do you create a balance to a point, yes, there are issues in our crop up, but then there are solutions. But then people don't want to hear like, they're not open to hearing out. They're not open, like I can make up my indiaki, like that's it. There's no room for a conversation. They're not open to hearing something different, as in we'll have a semen and even, and they're out. You know, if you want your relationship to be permanent, I'm not to, to, to go along with Kiasi, let's just discuss. See, if you want to make a decision, oh, I need a break before I'm going to, if I'm going to be able to make a decision, it's up to me. Now this thing, she'll be handled this way, and I'm going to be a final, be handled this way. I'm going to repeat the same, same mistake. I'm going to repeat the same, same mistake. What will you do? It's up to me to say, oh, I need a break because I'm not, it's like I'm not meant for this one. Right. Yeah. Yeah, like prior, let me refer to that Kevin Boyer. Okay. That issue was so petty that a girl complained, a girlfriend, who she referred to as a Mueshin one. From Mombasa. The petition was, after I came to Mombasa 200, they told me that I used pads, I was looking for them. Yeah. Then the guy said, I need.. I need a rent. Yeah, I need a rent. He was like a woman. I don't need a rent. Yeah, I don't need a rent. And you know, she showed the option that you would be Mueshin. Because of this, and that was because of this, then she went on a trip to Nairobi to Kuala. Yeah. That plan, It's a personal investment. I don't know if I'll ever get a donation, but it's a personal investment. Effort one. Effort one. You know the effort? Soon I'll be selling my money. I don't have a circle of ideas. Do you think it's a personal investment? It's a veteran investment in a DCI. No, a refund. Oh, I refund back the money. No, no, no, no. Yeah, but if I had to sell, I'd refund back the money. No. Please, please, please do the necessary. Yes? No. You have a different opinion? Contrary opinion. I don't have any opinion. I don't have any opinion. You don't have any opinion? No. Okay, I compensate. Because it compensates. It compensates. It compensates. It compensates. It compensates. It compensates. You are happy for a long time. You are happy for a long time. But you are not happy for a long time. So it helps you to benefit from this relationship. Right. Like it helps you to benefit from this relationship. And then sometimes, let's not understand the situation here. Let's say there is a story. The story of what happened. Right. What went wrong? Yeah, what went wrong? Sometimes, we find ourselves struggling with this. There is a design, and if it's not there, it's in my hands. Ladies are ladies, and we must understand ladies. And then also, let me keep in mind, these are long-distance relationships. Long-distance relationship, let me say like, in low culture, I mean, in low culture now. Or at the bank or to it. In low culture, in low culture. It's allowed, your brother will help you. He'll say, well, he's a brother and I'm side here. It's why it is allowed, bro. But you know, they've not had a conversation about that. So it can't be allowed. It can't. But we don't know what went wrong. We're just assuming. We're not even assuming. We're feeling on what they gave us. So, surprise also. I think on the surprise side, I'm with Mboya. On his Amuka, Subbu, you feel like today, I want to surprise my girl. Okay. Also, he's allowed. But sometimes, with this condition, I just sometimes, I don't want to end up surprising him too. When he has flowers and I try to attack flowers. Because I don't want to eat flowers, bro. But this is a generation where people want surprises, bro. Isn't it amazing right now, your grandma, a tokenizer, out of nowhere, I say, I love you, my grandson, and I've decided to gift you this. Will you cry, and Subbu, will you be happy? To give me flowers, what money? Either. Of course, see flowers too. You can't have money, bro. These are sensible people. They're not just kids. They'll give you money. Flowers, after two days, they'll give you money, bro. Of course, it's part of that romance process of, like, you know, any romance without flowers, what kind of romance is it? Maybe it's for another country. But anyways, aside from that, when it comes to making relationships work, especially what we're going to dispute, sometimes you need to seek a second hand opinion. Yes. Maybe do you feel like a boy, and you're going to say, boy, it's okay before you make your decision, or you're going to surprise, or maybe what to do before, for your story, or before you develop all this mess? I think that's where we go wrong. Any time we want to seek advice from a boy, I think what I can mislead. But if you say, boy, it's okay to prove them. Yes, it's okay to prove them. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. I don't believe in you, but you know what you want for yourself. See for yourself. You know what you want for yourself. You know, boy, it's okay to prove them. You want to vet. You want to vet, you want to prove them. You want to have material. But then, by the end of the day, by the end of the day, you won't be able to work. You know, boy, you know, every weekend, you'll have a club, road trip, but where you could dip down the hat on me, because this is a V20, you don't know what to do. You don't know what to do. So just sometimes, we are not making decisions for them, but we are making decisions for ourselves. And then we are making also decisions for the future. Okay. Jackson. I think for the security, and if suddenly, when you're home, when you're home to boys, after work, you are doing this so that they verify if it's right for you to go, you are going to be there. What about you, in your second hand? Is that good for you? I don't think so. I work, I work as a soldier. I work. I work while shooting. I'm the only guy with a left side. That's why it's good to work. Second opinion from Bogey. Okay. This little boy, what is going to happen? What is going to happen? Let me explain it. That's why it's good to work. Second opinion, from Bogey. Okay. This, this little thing, what is going to happen, is what is going to happen? maybe second-hand land. I'm just giving an example. After one person, who is in this area, who doesn't even know how to look, I'll give you all the details. I'll give you all the details. After a boy, who doesn't even know how to look, who doesn't even know how to look, who doesn't even know how to look, before you talk, how is he? How is he? How is his mother? At least you can keep an eye on the apple of your eye. Steps, you can take it. How is his mother? But he doesn't even know how to look. No, he doesn't. He doesn't know how to look. He doesn't know these characters. He doesn't know how to talk. He doesn't know how to pay. He doesn't know how to look. He doesn't know how to look. He doesn't know how to look. He doesn't know how to look. Every time they look, you're thinking he doesn't know how to look but he can't understand. Occasionally, when someone is coming out, I'll give him information. There's a story. People will start looking. You canadate this problem without hit man. They will get a solution. Did you know this story? Everyone was, I don't know, do you have an office husband and wife? They believe in corporate, there's nothing. Office husband and wife. Do you have a wife? I don't know, I don't know. But do you have a wife? I don't know. Office husband and wife, I don't know. I'm an office wife for Amanda. But then, how do we term the store point? Because for me, I believe that if it is or to create, if it is or to stem from insecurities, lack of trust, hard-harm, and you have to work hard, you have to have a job. You have to take long and have a good impression. If you have a wife, you can say, hey, you're not going to be married, you're going to be married, you're going to be a Nivea, you're going to be a Rudy, you're going to be Christian Dio, you're going to be a Nusa. But you know when you are secure, and people learn to do it, exactly. They say, it's not all about insecurity. It's all about even security. This is my staff, but I want to protect it. They say, you're going to be a Nusa. Yeah, come on. You're going to be a Nusa. Let's not pretend here. If you're a Nusa, you're going to be an office wife. And then they say, you're going to be a trap. So, what's better is to work hard. The situation, maybe the situation, your job is more... you know, it's like you're in a truck, but there's a book they talk about, you know, how, like, they tell them to gravitate towards them, to make sure they have better deals than what they have. So, I want to talk about that. On my side, I want to say, this is long distance relationship. And there's a place where I can find, they say it's a junction area. You can find it in the village, and you can figure out what's the deal. It's a secret. It's a secret. This is my secret. And I know what's going on. Sometimes you're going to be a Nusa, and you're going to be a Nusa. I know that you're a Nusa, but in the end you're going to be a Nusa. And you're going to be a Nusa. This is my wife. What are you doing with my wife? This is my wife. And you're like, but this is my wife. We are officially legally married. I have a parent. I have a husband. Not calling out to him. So sometimes it's good. To have that. The background information. Casecurity on the ground. Jackson, do you feel like in a work, in modern age at Manziaco CCTV in short, at least some boys in the area would say, Manziaco, there's a friend of mine who said, Aliona, the girlfriend of Bishtiaki, a king-year-plus flannis league, you can take her on a Sunday. So all the boys in Jordan are at home, just a neighbor, who is a estate. But the first thing I say is, I'm married, I'm from Manziaco, I'm married, I'm married. One of them has a relationship. So man, I have a guy who says that he wants to open up a store. I'm a big PM, I want to... I'm in trouble. Some day maybe, I'm going to work and I'll pay for it. Then I'm going to open up a store to buy some clothes. So I'm going to open it up. And I'm going to buy some shoes, you know what I mean? I'm going to open up a store and I'm going to open up it'll be the break-up. But then, at John, it's a matter of love. I'm going to say, a matter of the heart. It's a different experience. Like we mentioned, we're not talking from different backgrounds. When you're to love language, when you're maybe like, we were like, for Kevin, we could surprise them. Not flowers, not pests. Surprise visitors. It's a load. When you love language, maybe in the words of a formation, when you're to love language, when you're just being present, when you're to go to Maddo, when you're to phone calls, when you're to say, Kevin, it's a matter of the heart. It's a matter of the heart. It's a relationship that's too smoothly. There are issues, but we fight apart from cheating. Of course, cheating. But when you say my cheating, the biggest leading course. Relationships could break. I think it's just knowing what you want and knowing your partner. If I know what I want, it could be that this is not what I want. I'll go, I'll walk away. Understanding your partner and knowing what you want. And then sometimes we must sell our pride. Our ego. Especially for men. Even ladies. Nowadays, ladies make apologies. Apologies is an issue, bro. This is their mistake. Most of the time, it's just apologizing. Apologies is an issue. Yes, apologizing. Sometimes we sell our pride and ego. We understand that we're meant for each other. We must understand each other. But the backbone of everything to men is differently. So we are different people. But we want to come together. So we must understand that what we value is not what I value. What she values. So let me exchange my mindset. Let me exchange my mindset. And then sometimes let me say that I'm wrong. I don't like this. And then I must also be in a position to explain what I'm feeling, why I'm feeling that's wrong. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. Without telling you I'm feeling this is wrong because of A, B and C. Yeah. Let me give you a situation. Crazy one. There's this friend who is going to be a Demo Ake. So this guy is a comedian anyway. He's going to be a street fly and Demo Ake is going to be a hug. He's going to be a street fly and Demo Ake is going to be a hug. Demo Ake is going to be a hug. Demo Ake is going to be a hug too. He's going to be a hug too. I have a chat with you. I have a chat with you and the same same thing when I'm crashing a COSINIM tour how do you actually make that work? Now this chick has trust. The first thing you must understand is the working environment. The type of job you want to do. But sometimes it depends on you as a protective mechanism. I work with you, I work with you. So But that's an insecurity. No, it's a sign of insecurity. But the lady is right. The lady is right. Why do you have to hug her? The lady is right. To make me elevate to her banner, I hug almost 20 people. Ah, yes, ah, sir. She's just hugs. You have to hug her. No, I don't hug her. You know, there are people who... You don't hug her. There are other things you don't do or you don't say when you are with your lady. There are people who say, I don't hug her. So, you don't have to be able to... Hi! This is my wife. No, she's my wife. You hug her, you know, she doesn't hug her, she doesn't hug her, she doesn't hug her. Ah, you're not extreme. You're not extreme. You hug her. You hug her, you know. For that woman, the lady to find peace in the heart as soon as you hug her, you have to hug her and hug her for 20 minutes. Okay. So, you should understand the past of all the environmental issues. Yes, sir. So, come on. Because... you have to socialize with other people too. Yeah. That woman is the lady's social mom. You hug her and hug her. Yeah. So... the lady, you don't have to assume that you're going to be in a relationship with someone. I assume that you're going to be in a relationship with someone. And I'm going to be in a relationship with you. But I don't have any message to send you. Yeah. So, I assume that you're going to be in a relationship with someone. Ah, you assume that. Yeah. Okay. So, I want to give you feedback. Ha! You know, Paul Nicholas, I'm a person who has been in a relationship with my wife for 40 years. And she's my wife, I'm in a lost direction. But, hey! But I'm in a relationship with her. Aha! And I think I have a squeeze ofCTN to suggest patches of prior experience. I will include all of that stuff. And remember? That's the question, in relation to Kevin Boiles' ups-and-downs do you have any ideas on how to overcome your course? Aha! Mark Mayn – I think with every pre regulates powers, that makes sense, and his music, I think there are alwaysNONs in our time. And they bear this claim to their powers. Hey! our friend Ibrahim Heím Vert-Walamм ... I always say something must kill a man. Choose yours wisely. When the hyena wants to eat kids, she says they smell like shit. Wow, wow, wow. Wanjiku hasan, Mary, and I say, but to the new couples when you have no pendant asana, na takam juen, nothing lasts for long. Sisi tulipendana asana, but still, i ka fika expiry date, and you're not too far from the truth. Okay, Pablo, black child, Katya, and I say, makrudia, kosa, dokosa, kujitete, na kufo, miliana, doksaidiana. And then, Rudra, J, Clancy, K, I, and I say, Heriko divorce, kuliko kutaftia na makosa, walolo, mwenye maploti za luanda. Hey, what a name! You say, piya mimi na anza kum taftia makosa. Okay, Titan spotlight, na se ma i filio, pain, Shadra kwambuia, na se ma pretty Angela. Tu ishi, rata ka niyongen, kirudi niyu mama. Okay, okay. Sao, saa. Keep your feedback coming. Remember to get makulizai in regards to our situation here, Kevin and Boya. Nipua, kutaftia na makosa, and I think we'll call it a day. We'll call it a day from there. Thank you so much, Jaksu and John, and happy new year, meeting you for the first time on the show. 2023 is going to be a banger, another banger. Okay, on that note, we're going to take a, wait, we are ending. We are not taking a break. Thank you so much for watching this husband wine in the morning segment is Montauk Monday. Thank you so much for your company. We love you for watching today. I'm Brian Sakwa. See you tomorrow once again for entrepreneurship Tuesday and health Tuesday as well. Have an amazing Monday.