 And again, if anybody has statistics for that, if you would please forward that to me via my email, or you can write it and send it to me on my Facebook page. Okay, next on the rest of the team, but Lindsay, what, please? I don't have anything written down for you. I'm just coming to you. He has a child who is not able to wear a mask. He has severe anxiety and OCD. And I just ask that you please consider those kids when you make this a requirement. Please come up with some sort of exemption or something so that my kid can go to school. He's already missed out for a whole entire year. He had to do online learning last year. He missed out on an honors class. He's a good kid. He's already taken high school classes in the eighth grade. He's taking honors classes, but he couldn't move forward with honors classes because of your online program last year. He does much better in-person learning. So please, please consider something for those kids who have mental health issues, who are not able to put something over their face. It is not because of politics. It is not because he's trying to be against the rules. It has nothing to do with that at all. He truly is a kid who cannot put something over his face all day. So please, when you're making your decision, please keep all of those kids in mind. Please, thank you for your time. Next time, I'm very good at being all pregnant. Richard, is it brutal? Yeah. I don't want to mispronounce the name on you. If you have name on your body, you want to make sure. Good evening. Thank you for your time again. Good to see you, everybody. I'm not gonna kind of re-urgitate some of the stuff that we talked about last time. One of the things I wanted to ask is re-design of the flow chart. And when kids come in contact with COVID, it's asinine to me that you can go get a negative test for COVID and you're still forced to be out of school five to seven days. I know everything we're basing is based off cases in our area. We're gonna have a lot of cases that are reported next week because it's my understanding the whole seven to eight grade football team was just sent home. And we're probably told they need to get tested before they come back to school. We talked about the air cell particle and a lot of the facts and things like that. For me, the kids should be in school. Again, if you want the option to wear a mask, wear a mask. If there are options you guys are coming up with for parents to be able to leave their kids at home or do the koala thing again for certain at-risk kids, that's fine, but they've already talked about all the numbers, we've talked about them before, having to email you some more of those. But the kids should be in school. They should be in school, not forced to wear a mask. The numbers are what supports that. We all have individual stories. We all have kids with different needs. I can tell you the stories about my kids and how masks and different things have affected them. But the reality of it is, is my kid is no more important than any other kids when you have data over 18 months time to look at a collective. When you can look at data to know what the right thing to do is and when you have sciences behind certain things like the lady pointed out about the masks and how they're really not stopping anything from getting in anyways, especially when you're fidgeting with your face and stuff all day long. Kids shouldn't be forced to wear masks, especially when they're at virtually no risk as a collective to wear a mask. They also shouldn't be forced to stay home, miss extracurriculars, do certain things and miss out on their childhood. They're not political cons. I mean, these kids over the last 18 months, they've seen their parks roped off of caution tape. They've seen their basketball who just weren't out of the park. They've been told they couldn't go to the pool. They've been yelled at by parents for playing in their yard and driveways. They are not political cons to protect the adults. It's the other way around. It's our responsibility to do it in their best interest and their best interest is to be in school without being forced to wear masks. And I'm happy to send you any other material we've talked about before, but that was really what I wanted to address was see if there was some kind of change that could be made to the flow chart because they have a kid provided negative COVID tests and still be forced out for five days or even just have a parent call in because their kid wasn't feeling well now they got to make a doctor's appointment or shove the COVID tests of their kindergartners nose in order for them to go back to school. That's not right. Some changes need to be made to that in order to let our kids be in school and for our parents to be able to provide normalcy for them. So thank you again for your time. And I appreciate it. Thanks. Okay, next on our list could be Ms. Vanish LaBarre, please. Good evening and thank you for letting me speak. I seem outnumbered here, but I just wanted to give a little bit of thought on the other side since we've had a lot on this side. I kind of hope to hear when the school board what specifically had called this meeting that I knew it had to be something to do with masks, but at the same time, I have been in the district for 18 years. I have four kids that have graduated from the family in Chester and I'm also a foster parent. I do realize that it's difficult for kids to wear masks as a foster parent. I deal with different ages of kids. And specifically this year, I have a son who is at the Career Center. My question specifically is the Career Center is not mandating masks and this Career Center is not mandating masks and the kids are riding the same bus and they're coming home with kids in the middle school not with masks. And I do know that the buses are required to wear masks, but none of them are three feet apart on a school bus. So there's not very much social distancing. There's probably a lot of touching from what my son says. And he's been out of school for two days. I don't know yet if he has COVID, waiting to get the test back. Last year I had a son who had COVID as a basketball player. A whole basketball team couldn't play. When he did have COVID, he still has symptoms. He still has a loss of taste and smell to this day. And he is a very perfectly healthy child with no underlining conditions. Not overweight, nothing. Nothing's wrong with him or ever was wrong with him. He recovered. So I do know from a personal friend of a personal experience, someone who is in the third grade who is fighting for his life today after going back to school and did not have any underlining conditions and wasn't sick until he went back to school. I'm not saying masks will prevent anyone from getting COVID. I'm saying if we could take every precaution to help our kids be safe and secure and prevent them from being sick, for me, I had to deal with kids who have anxiety, kids who have learning disabilities. I get the toughest kids as a foster parent. I get the kids who have various different IEPs who you have to make special conditions and special arrangements for. I say make those conditions, make those special arrangements, do whatever we can to make sure that those kids have whatever they need. That's on the majority of our population in school. Do we want to be out of school again because we have so many cases of COVID in our district? Is that what we really want? We wanna be forced to be at home. We make mandates for so many things in our school districts. Our kids can't wear their pretty short three inches above the knees. They can't wear holes in their pants. They can't wear hats on their heads. They can't do this, they can't do that. We make mandates for so many things that have nothing to do with health. They have to do with whatever reason that we're making that mandate. So for me, we as parents have to make choices for our kids. I get it. I understand what people say. It's my choice, it's my kids. But as a kid, better students with public school, some of our choices go along with whether or not they're impacting the other kids at the school as well. And I would just like to see us do what is said, whatever is going to make sure, and I'm not even saying make sure, whatever is going to do our best to alleviate the fact that we could have more kids getting sick. I went around all day yesterday in every store I could find in this area looking for on-the-shelf COVID tests, because I couldn't find one from my son. They're sold out so fast, they sold out. I just told you that there's a lot of other people that are being COVID tested around here. Thank you so much. And I guess the one thing I would like to say is, I'm sorry, 30 seconds. Okay. If we could just think about our kids and think about how we could eliminate making it political, it shouldn't be political, it shouldn't have anything to do with politics. What it has to do with is the best interest of our kids. And for me, the best interest of our kids is, let's try it out. Let's try it out for a couple weeks and see if some of the virus and things go down. If we've tried it one way, let's try it the other way. With this name, but is it Morris, McHugh? It's Morris, McHugh Tech Funding. Thank you. Any better contacts like this? I'm actually, I'm new, Ohio, and I've been here for about a month to do this. We are definitely a little bit more, I think we've sort of been in the sense of like, we were masked when we were out in public. So here I feel a little different. And I understand that everybody has a choice, right? For us and my family, my husband is actually a healthcare provider. He's a nurse practitioner and he's actually dealt with COVID for the past 18 months. He's had to deal with COVID positive patients every single day, Monday through Friday. And it's taxing. I can see him dealing with it and how it's actually impacted him both as they, it's both professionally and also personally. Having to deal with patients who've died, it's definitely something that wears on you. And also in our family we have a sister-in-law who's a nurse at Grand Medical and she also deals with COVID patients. And it's wearing on her as well. I mean, I'm just looking at the people who we have to, you know, my family I have to care for, my husband, my sister-in-law, all that they've had to deal with, all that they've actually, you know, all the people that have either died on their watch because of COVID-19, it really, you know, it can take a toll on people. I'm just saying that I understand that people may not want their child to wear a mask and if they're vaccinated, that's great. But my child is five years old. She doesn't have a choice if that's needed. I've even reached out to find out in her class that we are very much about hygiene at our home. And it's important for you to wash your hands. It's recommended. And she's telling me she's not washing her hands at school. She's just getting hand sanitizer. And before she eats, it's imperative that she gets her hands washed. You know, it should be a requirement here. It actually makes me kind of question, you know, I'm talking about health. So you don't wear a mask. How about we help our children while washing their hands before they eat? Because that is also another way to get COVID. Just putting hand sanitizer on is not necessarily gonna, you know, help prevent the spread. Washing your hands with hot soapy water is very important. So if you don't want to wear a mask, how about we wash our children's hands as well? So I want, you know, you realize that there's not just one thing or another thing. There's multiple different things that we need to do to help stop the spread. And throughout the day, we need to make sure our children are washing their hands. They are touching things. They're touching their nose. They're touching other things. And they're sharing things. And it's just spreading of germs. So I understand, you know, they may not necessarily have to wear a mask, but can we at least try to implement better hand hygiene for our children in the hopes, help them. Thank you. Thank you. On the speaker's list is Cassandra Davidson. I've been in the district since 1999. I've had many of you personally through his research, you guys, resources that are peer-reviewed and are coming from health authorities within Central Ohio, whether he's conducted much more through CMO or the Children's Hospital, he was telling the total that the children are seeking are that the hospital is feeling from all of the children that are coming, whether it's already being out for the patients and the uptake that they have seen there. I have sent you guys the letters from the police from all of the children's hospitals across the country, requesting that masks be placed back in the schools to help prevent them from spreading. I disagree with the statement that surgical masks have to be just started within 20 minutes because I don't know any surgeon that takes off the surgical mask 20 minutes every single 20 minutes to replace. I am angry because, I do all, because I thought that if you were to listen to the sources that are out there and what you might be given, but I'm more angry at myself for what I've crossed that I placed it in your hands. I am tired of the conspiracy theories that are going around and the sources that are being thrown out there from YouTube videos or even journal articles where they're quoted, but it's from the people who are surveying and not the actual peer-reviewed or the read-bought articles. I have heard multiple people quote the Constitution and the Bible and the states are right, so we're right to say that. But this isn't political. And all of our children do have the right to medication, and it has to be provided in a stage manner. So I think at this point we need to re-evaluate what we're doing because it's not working. I have two children left in the school district that had six, four come through at six total. I have one that doesn't have a chance to get the vaccine because of her age. And the funny thing about kids is we don't, a lot of times know that there's a congenital defect until we know there's a criminal defect. So it's our responsibility to protect all of the children. In the hospitals we are overwhelmed with the cases that are coming in and it's now with the Delta variant we're seeing younger, healthier people who never thought that they were going to get it are now, we can just watch the lungs being filled and isolated and they don't make it. I don't know how much more proof that has to be whether it's from an age like the public health, the children's hospitals, what needs to responsibility and action that this is real, this is what we're facing right now. So if you guys have any questions just feel free to reach out to me. I have, I'm not just a mom, I'm not just a nurse, but I mean I researched this every single day getting pulled into staffing when you have people that are out and sick and stuff it takes a toll on the emotional health care workers emotionally and mentally and I had a PD doctor say the other day that they prepared everybody out in the front lawn having a keger while the house is on fire and that's literally what we're working on. Next on our list would be. Appeal to authority. Yeah, I want to start with a letter that I was sent to read to you all from Michael Oglesby, the director of Infections of the Institute at The Ohio State University. He says, there is no question that wearing masks reduce the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and in an unvaccinated population the importance of this protective measure cannot be overstated. Again, we're talking about kids that don't have an option to get vaccinated. Perhaps you've seen the headline regarding the rise in pediatric hospitalizations at nationwide children's through COVID-19 and their infection outcomes in children are not common but they happen and they happen in the absence of comorbidities. I was here last week and told the story or three weeks ago, built a class week of my three-year-old daughter who spent four days at Children's Hospital in a year of torture having MISD from COVID. She has no comorbidities. She's a normal, happy, healthy, now four-year-old kid that ended up with MISD from COVID. So you can't predict it. It's not like you can say, oh, well that kid obviously has an underlying issue so we need to protect out and not that. You just can't. And this is not to mention the threat posed to faculty and staff. The vaccines work, but when you're surrounded by unvaccinated children who can circulate the virus at high levels, that vaccine induces the protection that is challenged particularly in the order of individuals. It says, anecdotally, I ride my bike through both the middle school and elementary school on my way into Ohio State. The kids are all wearing masks as they come to school because the school on this mandate is them. They can care less. Making it mandatory is not a burden on them. It's the parents that are the challenge. Let me know if you're looking for more help. He said he's happy to answer questions you all have. I can forward this letter to you and he would be a good resource if you're interested. So I'm back just to say, I can't believe I'm back, but I can't believe I'm back. I told this story terribly of my daughter last time and I don't really want to go through again. But I just want to say, I hear a lot of comments about the trauma of masks and the acne and I guess that's a terrible thing for some kids, but I watched my three-year-old get strapped to a table and rolled into a cat's skin machine while she screamed, okay? I watched her get, sorry, I watched her go be put under to have an MRI. I have watched her get a half a dozen IDs in her last year and more blood drawn out of her body than I thought she had in her body. And she was a happy, healthy, normal, three-year-old kid. So if you're wondering, like, my kid wears a mask without a problem, man. She doesn't even think twice about it. In fact, sometimes I'm the one who forgets it and she reminds me. The kids don't have the problem. It's apparent. And I know there's a lot of statistics being drawn around, but I'm going to back to what Sandra said. We have to look at peer-reviewed scientific studies. And the last I saw there was something like 70 peer-reviewed scientific research studies on the efficacy of masks and something like four or five that say they don't work. The evidence is out there. It's all out there. If you choose to look at the scientific and medical evidence and not TikToks and Facebook and memes and whatever, it's out there. And we need to follow that because we've been in school what, three weeks? And here we are. Are we talking about it again? Are we literally just going to wait until a kid dies? Are we going to wait until a kid is to popularize like mine? Or what's the goal here? Like at what point do we say, okay, we got to stop clean politics and stop trying to appease everybody and just do what's going to protect this kid? So I hope- Playing politics, playing politics right now. Stop sending you my friends and I are sending you. You know, and just go with what the science says and keep the politics and, you know, try to make nice out of it. Thank you. Our next speaker would be Mr. Bill Russell. Are you here, sir? Yeah, I'm here, I'm here. Can I go on his place? Nope, can I get on the list? I mean, Bill had a chance to go. So we're wasting his time. You can just let me go. I'm just going to think we're both going to say no. Bill had a chance to go. We had- We're not- I'm not talking about- Just- Oh my God. This, uh, I need a- Pretty hard to go. Don't worry. Hurry up. I understand. It's pretty hard to go. That's what I'm talking about. We've got to tie an iron to make it. Is that what we okay with? Well, thank you all for allowing me to speak. I don't have anything written. I tried to rely on some sort of intelligence. And I agree, this does not need to be political. And if you want to say you want to stick to science, then let's stick to science. Basic science, do you all know what a virus is? Do you know the definition of it? I'm assuming that you do. I have it written down though, if you want me to read it to you. The fact is, not everybody around has access to an N95 mask, which does not always work. It does not. And the ones that the kids do have, they are, yes, uncomfortable. So then you prescribe gators. That was a big, hot thing. Gators, everybody bring a gator. Does nothing. The clock does nothing. Now, maybe you believe in God, maybe you don't. The human body has an amazing immune system. And I'm not going to stand up here and try to placate. We have all suffered through COVID. I had COVID. I had it before anybody else probably in this room had COVID and it was horrid. And I jokingly will say, my husband thought I was dying and I did not. And I came back and guess what? Two years later, I still have the antibodies. But science or what you want to see out there is going to tell you that they can't say that your antibodies are gonna stick around that long. While I'm proven, it has stuck around. It'll be two years in December. Now, let's give back to what's really going on here because it is political. And I think everybody in this room, mask or no mask, loves your children and cares about your children. And you want the best for these kids. But the best is not sending them into a school. And by the way, are you Bridget? No, Bridget, your secretary, okay. You might want to work with her on her communication skills because she's not good. Okay? The fact is, you need to sniff around. I don't know if this is valid or not, but you have potentially teachers in your schools that are segregating these kids out on vaccine and not vaccinated, making them stand up for debate and tell why they haven't gotten it. No, no, no. Oh my God. Oh my God. You know what, that's all. There is no instance that it is ever okay for a teacher to do that. Anyone. And if it has happened, I would hope that you would take issue with that or those individuals and make sure that it never happens again. I'm saying that as a parent, and I used to teach, I would have never done that. But you are single-handedly bringing segregation back into this because this is a political issue. Maybe not for you. Maybe I'm right up here. But what we need to do, if you want to have a mask, wear the mask. I will never make fun of anybody who wears a mask. I respect your right to. If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. I respect your right to. But you do not get to dictate to me or my child what is best for them. Because right now, he also has the antibodies because he had to suffer through me two years ago. Two years on. Now, I understand, obviously as an Italian, my hands are moving here. So I'm a little animated. Someone else on this board as an Italian. Is it you? No? Maybe Monofi? Someone? Okay. Anyhow, anyhow, the point we're trying to make here is, wear the mask. This is a virus. Look at the definition. There are going to be peaks and there are going to be valleys. And guess what? I'm not going to stop with this one. Did you realize there were five other coronas before? The one that happened in 2019? They all mutate. There's another one coming out of West Africa right now. But it's mutated so much, it might have actually killed itself all. So please, take the politics, take your personal preferences and put in mind here, you are put in place to represent all of us. Not just a small, fanatical group. I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I don't go on conspiracy theories. Again, I haven't. And thankfully, God allowed me to make it through. But unfortunately, we are going to lose a lot of people. We will. And guess what? It's not even the number four killing in the state of Ohio. Cardiac, diabetes with cardiac, all your different cancers, then you go down to COVID. But you know what's jumped up? Suicide. Suicide. Please think about that and quit making it about politics. Thank you. Thank you everyone. That personal tax are not acceptable part of public discussion. If you have an issue with a staff member, you call me and we will discuss it. Please do not bring it up in another meeting again. That will not be tolerated. Yep, we'll take it up with you. Thank you. There's a way to solve every grievance and that's why I'm talking to the person in charge. If there's any more for Part X6, Mr. Seller, please do. I will. Okay, our next on our list is James Dove. Right sir? Oh yeah, you're good. I won't be as animated as my lovely wife. So just to introduce myself, we have one son who's currently in the eighth grade. We've been in the school system for about seven years. Myself, I'm actually the vice president for one of the largest diagnostic companies in the world. We actually do antigen and antibody testing for COVID as well as PCR rapid. I work with the largest health system in the world. So from a science perspective, to discuss with my customers, I have to get very deep into this. I agree wholeheartedly with Mrs. Doller and her assessment of the effectiveness of masks based off the size of the particles that you're getting with this virus. It seems like back and forth has been a discussion. Are masks effective or not? To me, this is a very simple solution. If you feel they're effective, then have your kids wear them. And if they are effective, that will help them to keep from getting the COVID vaccine prior to COVID fires. If you don't feel they're gonna help, don't put your kids through all of the mental stress and all of the physical stress associated with that. We had our son in home school all year last year as we knew the mask mandate was gonna be there, whether it was part-time or whatever. It's cruel and unusual punishment to make the kid wear a mask the entire day in school with all of their friends. So we home school. That option should be available if you don't feel that you're still there. That's not gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. They're gonna be safe in that. Then home school, just like we had to last year. I mean, there's a way to do this. If masks are effective, then put them on. But don't mandate that everybody has to do that. Senator, this should be Leah Urban. I would like to propose that the school stop trying to control a microorganism that is beyond human control and other human beings. No matter your stance on masks, vaccines or quarantines, it is asinine to think that we can actually stop the spread of other people. We are being given bad advice and you'll never be able to stop infection. I simply disagree with the ODH's quarantine flow chart. I think it's a nightmare for kids and it's forcing us to quarantine the healthy if they are unmasked and unvaccinated. Yet, it doesn't force the backs to quarantine. If they mask, despite the fact they may still be able to spread the flu unless they have symptoms. And yet, they may not have those symptoms if they are backsed. So it is to say they aren't spreading it more without realizing it. What good masks may or may not do can be completely negated by kids touching the mask and covering it with bacteria as others have said. Therefore, I ask you not to put yourself in the position of being between the sides. It's lose, lose for you and ultimately for our children. At the end of the day, they are our children. They're not boards of the state. They do not belong to you and I urge you to please stick to things that can help like sanitizing surfaces and employ janitors to do so, what you're doing and I thank you for that. We parents knew what it meant to be parents when we became responsible for other lives. We don't put that on us on you or at least we shouldn't. We can decide if they need masks. We can decide if our children need vaccinated. We can decide to give them vitamins to boost their immune systems. And if they do fall ill, which happens annually at least, we are capable of deciding how to treat them and get them better. We always do it any and every time it occurs. So in short, stick to academics, teaching things that they need to learn, not political opinions or ideologies or medical decisions. We don't send our children to you for that. Publicly funded education is not attended for dividing children into groups. That is as true for race as it is for medical status. It's not okay to treat part of the student body differently than the other part. Please stop segregation and further isolation of our students. You are a school board, not scientists and everything can be debated back and forth. So at the end of the day, parents are in charge of their children. We don't send you to play parent, so both some school work and leave the parenting to us. Next slide, please. Marcia Porter. I think everyone here lost their children. Ma'am, can you speak to those folks at home that you're reporting in? You're one of the best for their children. And it seems like, you know, this is political and it shouldn't be because it's what should be best for the child. My number one, when you're getting high school, you know, you get to make a little bit more just to call decisions and things like that. But number one needs to be guided by people that are looking out. We are seeing a tough kick in the amount of illnesses among children. My grandparents, they have, I don't know who it is, it's just a matter of time before other children, so I understand about the math. It would be ideal if everybody would wear a mask. But it seems like maybe we're at a point now there needs to be some other option for them, whether it be for both those parents that want to send their children, if you so. Those parents, they don't feel comfortable, they have an option because I'm gonna give you an observation of what I see when I take my grandson every morning. The cars are lined up all the way up the street, sometimes past the light, to get into the parking lot, to get to the drop off. When you look in the cars of the parents, you see just anxiety, fear, not knowing what to expect morning and afternoon. There's such a look that I sit there and I wish I could help them, that's the principle it makes. But all I can do is to pray that each and every child that walks in that building is safe and secure. As board members, I ask you, when you look at your child, you're seeing the reflection of the children in the distance. When I was teaching in my school, each and every child that came into my building, I would just want to go for K plus 12. When I looked at each and every child, it was like looking at my children. And I wanted the best for that child, even though he wasn't mine, because he belongs to somebody else. So maybe there needs to be an option. Well, I am begging the board to make good conscious judgment possible for the children in this entire school district. Yes, the option is, it's wonderful to wear a mask. The mask does protect. And we can see by all the news, everything that's going on with all the hospitals, all the staff. Your mask gets affected on it. It needs to stop. It is about the children first. So please, I beg you, think about each and every child that walked in all these school districts. And in Canal Winchester, make good judgment calls. It's like if I'm driving a car, I can't say I'm gonna put a seatbelt on. The law, I will get it ticket. If I don't have a seatbelt on, what do we need to do? There are laws, there are standards. You can't have freedom everywhere. There are things that we have to buy, but when we deal with children, we need to think about them and do what's best for them. Period. If it needs to be protected, do so. If you want your child not to wear a mask, what do we say? If you want to send your child with a mask, you can have that do so. So again, I beg you, please make the right call. Think about the little one. You're gonna have something with this last name. John St. I'm sorry. Are you here? John Stumler? It starts at the other side. I can't quite read it, but yeah. You know, please come on up. Come on up, drive. There you go. Thank you. Thank you. I'm not very good at all with this, I'm not. I should really end the answer here. First of all, the only thing I really have to say is that is the reason why we're here. Is I fly. And this is a free country last time I checked. And I have a lot more skin in the game than a lot of parents. I'm a single parent. I've raised two girls on my own for seven years. And last year, which I know those all the schools was hell-fooling. Beyond, I still haven't got a word. I made too much money to get any of the checks that anyone else got. Still haven't got a anyone. What's the, that's all I want to know, but I'll take it. I had to end up spending $7,000 for a tutor to come to my house without a mask. She never wore a mask and I bought one because she had a common sense. I also have to argue with, I won't say the name, sir, one of your administrators because they would not give us an extension of the time. So this whole situation has been out of control from the beginning, which I think we all agree on that. It got political, still political, but the bottom line is, back right there, is my choice, not none of yours, to tell my kids what the hell to do. I'm gonna be nailing one to one that. I fought and court for that years ago. There will be no one else doing it. If you guys hand in a mask, my kids will yank out of this school system day one. They will not be back. This is out of control, it's been out of control, and you guys can actually make a stand. And I'm sure everyone's seen the videos on YouTube, this, that, with the school board, school board meetings, blowing up out of control. And I'm actually really disappointed we don't have more parents here. That is the disappointing part of this, that we allow you guys to have that much control over our lives. This is not a third world country. It's not a second world country. This is United States. We make the decisions here. We put people in place to make, help us make the decisions. When we don't agree with you, it's time for you guys to go. But the bottom line is, when it comes to anything, I don't think any of you will, rightly at all, to walk up to you and tell you what to do with your child. I don't think anyone will. Other than that, I don't have much to say, I'm sure, but this is just out of control. It really is. You guys have destroyed, not you guys personally, but whatever system, but you guys have the power to change this. But by all means you do, and you can stop it. Because I guarantee you, I'm not going there. We're all, everyone's at the wood ends with this. But no matter what's on it, I don't know. At some point, it's got to stop. So, thank you. Thank you very much. That's the end. We're going to need to wrap the other way. We can talk also. So do we want to cut that off or how do we do that? If you let the sign up, if you're not here, you're going to let them speak. Then we'll have to wrap the other way. We're going to treat that. Okay. That's my point. Okay. Yes. Mr. White, I'm a CT technologist. And my understanding, as far as COVID-19 is concerned, is that when we do an evaluation of a chest x-ray to determine the conditions of that person's lungs, whether they've gotten pneumonia or COVID-19, when you look at a normal chest x-ray, the lungs are black because there's nothing to attenuate the x-ray beam. So as you come in contact with something that's going to affect your lungs, it's going to show up on that x-ray. If I was able to show you four different images, you would see that COVID is the worst. Your lungs are flooded. It'd be like me holding your head down in a toilet. And once your lungs feel the fluid, it's like you're drowning. Now, I have a child in the school system. It's like everyone else here. One, one child that may end up in a pediatric ICU on a ventilator. This is not something you want to see or witness. Oh, I'm 65 years old. I'm a type 2 diabetic. It puts me in a high risk category. I've been vaccinated. That's my personal business. I'm not sharing it. But my son isn't because he's not 12. So I'm playing Russian roulette with his life. I'm sending him into an environment that is not going to be accountable. The school board is not going to be accountable if my child comes in contact with COVID and if he comes severe that he ends up in a pediatric ICU on a ventilator. The school board is not going to take any responsibility. So what you're asking us is parents. Mr. Play Russian roulette. That's a difficult decision to make. I heard one of the parents talk about homeschooling. You're right. It was difficult for some of us who had to work. It became even more difficult. Fortunately for me, I was retired. And I have an educational background. But I'm just concerned because I have contacted one of my son's teachers by email because he said to me, I don't have any elbow room to write. I'm going, excuse me, isn't this supposed to be 3 feet apart? I don't know. I went back and looked at the district and said, this is 3 feet. So we talked to his teacher and this is her response. Due to some seating and the amount of students in the room, 3 feet is a goal that we are trying to accomplish. In some situations, it's tricky. If you wish for your son to be 3 feet away from other students, we can certainly try our best to get him a desk or he is sitting away from others. As of now, the school district is not requiring math. If you want your son to wear math, please let him know. This is this and we will let him know this and we will remind him to wear it. If I ask him, will you wear your math? No. But the teacher said, we don't have to. Excuse me? I'm your parent. I'm telling you, you have to. So you have 30 seconds. Thank you. So I'm just saying, from August 23rd, August 30th, you've had five cases. I'm hoping that not one of these children or any of these parents had to end up in an ICU on a family. She didn't sign up. She told her math. Listen, if she were to ask when? Yeah. This is the last one, please. She's a student. I think she can speak to a lot of parents. Absolutely. She's experienced. But this is the last one. That's what it is. Can you say she's the last one? Yes. No. You're the last one. Hi. My name is Tiffany Brown. I'm an 8th grader. And I'll be very quick. I just wanted to understand the parents that don't want their kids to wear masks. Are you saying you want my child to die? Because I don't understand. It is. It is. It's that area. I'll wait on that. Well, it's that area. That's dramatic shit there. I killed a lot of people. That's a bit much. I killed a lot of people. And it's not going to hurt anybody by saying let's wear masks. So I'm sorry you killed that way. I wasn't trying to offend him. But I tell my daughter to wear a mask. On top of that, if you guys do not mandate masks, then give us an option. Go back to two days going, two days, one day off. I think it was Monday, Tuesday. Wednesday, you clean. Thursday, Friday, the kids wouldn't fold. I'm okay with that. I said that half the year my child didn't get a cold. That's an option. I called the school because I wasn't ready to start school because the kids had to wear. It wasn't about, you know, it wasn't mandate and mask. So I didn't want to send my child to school. And the ladies said, well then you're wasting your five, six days of the year. There's no window. There's no room. So if you're not going to wear masks, then give us an option to put our kids, like a two-day, three-day, some other online something. Also, what are we doing about the filters and the furnaces and the clean the air? The classes are overcrowded. There should be some kind of HECO filters or something to clean the air. And every class, my child is in middle school, so she's changing classes. When they walk in the door, wash your hands. In other countries, as soon as they walk through the room, they're washing hands. Stopping the spread of the COVID. And the last thing is, let's learn from history. The Spanish flu killed more people than COVID. And they didn't have a vaccine in 1918 through 1930. They did social distancing and masks. Why are we not learning from that? And they did lockdown. And if you went outside with a mask, without a mask, you got a ticket. And you were getting a ticket as if it was like the 187 war. Seatbelt if you get pulled over, you get seatbelt tickets. They were giving out tickets. So let's learn from history. The Spanish flu killed many, many, many way more people than COVID. And they didn't learn until they enforced lockdowns, masks. And I don't care if it's a free country. I get that. But there's not going to be many people around if we all die from COVID. Anyway. That's not going to happen. And the last people will be Mariah Fox. Hi, I'm Mariah Fox. I'm a junior at this high school. I have been deeply impacted by this entire thing. I have depression, ADHD, and anxiety. This entire thing has made learning difficult for me what it already was. I'm in honors classes. I try so hard to keep in those honors classes and keep up with those neurotypical people who don't have to struggle with learning. And I did want to drop below what I thought I could do as far as honors classes by going online last year. So I dealt with, I wore a mask. I wore a mask every day. And this year I'm in my honors classes. And I'm happy. I'm seeing people there smiling. I forgot. We had some of these people in my grade. It's not at all political. It's science. We've heard nurses speaking from both sides. But it's not politics. I will not speak politics up here. I'm 16. I should not have a political opinion. These masks should be optional. It is up to the parents. They should be talking with their children about what the children and the parents think is best for the child when going to school. And if that is wearing a mask, then the child should wear a mask. If it is not wearing a mask, then they shouldn't wear a mask. I also believe maybe it'd be best if there was another option for children or parents to think that it is not safe to go into school without masks. Or even if they do have masks, they believe that they are still unsafe in school. With other children who are unvaccinated and unmasked, maybe they should have the option of online, just like last year. All a good place. I apologize. Hoping. I'm so sorry. Another thing, like the person before me said, the air filters and all the filters in the school, the hygiene. It should be such a bigger thing than it already is. We're talking about masks, which is this little thing, but we aren't talking about the thing that is affecting the air that you're breathing even through the mask. We're not talking about what you're touching your supplies with. And I think it should be talked about. Obviously, I'm up here talking about it. Sorry. I see kids every day wearing masks. There's someone wear masks and there's some who don't. And that is perfectly fine. I don't treat them any differently. They don't treat me any differently. That is our personal opinions. But I do believe and my friends, I have friends who have been vaccinated. I'm not vaccinated, but they have been vaccinated and they don't wear masks. And it's fine. We get along fine. None of us have been sick. None of us feel sick. And if we do get sick, we know don't go to school. That is obvious. If you're sick, if you're feeling sick, you shouldn't go to school. That's logic. We don't drink after each other, eat after each other. Anyways, that should be logical. I don't share supplies. That's just logical. But I'm going off on a tangent. My apologies. Basically, it should be the parent and the child's personal option to wear a mask to school or to not. That's it, I guess. Thank you. Mr. President. If I may, I'm Debbie Long. I am a past board. You're going to have to wait because where are we done with the public comments? I'm addressing Mr. Yunani. You're not going to speak here afterwards. I'll be around a few minutes. Okay. I just want a couple minutes. As a past board president of Canal Winchester, please. I'll see you after a few minutes. We have a lot to discuss and a number of opinions to sort of work through. And I'll be happy to help you. Okay. This issue is a lot bigger than anybody that even understands this is about masks. It's not about masks. It's about the disease itself, about the science. It's about the options. And for me, I did some research with Duke University today and their reports and I mean medical and then there's the Pediatrician's Association. So there's one I hate to be mandating to do anything. I'm not, I like to be talking. But on the other hand, I worry about every kid in this district. It's really good to think double-wise. I spent 44 years in this district and as a teacher and as a coach and elsewhere to say that we don't care. I think that's just lately wrong. Everybody on the school board thinks first about their kids. Politics has no issue. I'm at least good for human being alive. That being said is that I appreciate every comment, every funny speech. Both sides, it's a lot of fuel. So I like to hear from the board as far as knowing who we're going to do this. I knew that this would happen if we had a lot of different opposing views, and we want to hear that. That's what we're here for. Any comments from the school board? I want to thank everyone who spoke and those who have had their comments here. First of all, I'm sure you and I have said, I do respect everyone's opinion. Both sides take courage to get out here and tell everyone how you feel and what your beliefs are. But I really feel like part of my job is to help ensure a safe environment for all of our kids. And my background is public policy, public administration. It's not in the medical field. And for, I'm not going to try to ascertain our medical facts and discuss the variance. I mean, we all get that information. But what I want to do is basically look at what has been given to school boards as it goes. And what I am looking at would be these St. Ohio guidance from a governor's alliance office as far as what they recommend school districts do in order to help keep children in school, in person, so they believe that that's everyone's goal. We want to make sure our kids can learn in a healthy and safe environment and be in person with their teachers. But I feel like we also be issued with a mask. No one is saying the mask alone is the safety. But what I feel is just part of a layer of approach that when you take a combination of different things, including the ventilation, social distancing, hand washing, sanitizing, masking, vaccinating, when you combine it all together, it improves the outcome that we can actually slow the spread. It's not a cure. The vaccination is not a cure either. But we can slow it down so we can do what we can do in our power in order to help keep our children in school and in order to be in good hands. So basically, I'm just looking at what the guidance has been and basically the Ohio Department of Health says that recommending following layer prevention strategies were effective at controlling COVID last year. So that's what they're going off of. They have done research. What's that? And preventing evaluations. The State Department has been relying on epidemiological information, those politics. So basically, they're saying that masks as one approach has been proven to slow the spread of the virus. And especially it's important for children that are under 12 years of age who cannot be vaccinated. So I feel like each week we're going to keep seeing these numbers rise. And I can't even get conscious to sit back and say, well, I understand the opinions of having personal choice because if it were my personal choice and you had that available, I would have my children enrolled back in Kuala. But if others have stated that, I do. I feel like choice is important. Looking at what the guidance has been for school boards, that's what I'm referring to outside of my own personal opinion. So that's why I want to say it right now. Mike, I want to thank everyone for stating their opinion today and having the courage to stand up and tell us your thoughts. And if we are not taking this lightly, this is a huge issue. It's not a legal issue. I'm looking at steps into the children. One thing I'm trying to look at, focus on is the data. We're early in the school year. The data is limited right now. I don't know if there is. I haven't seen any data comparing schools that have mask mandates versus schools without mask mandates to determine the effect of the data. Taking that into consideration, my decision, and I guess that's where it's been right now. So I've got questions. I'm going to ask a bunch of questions tonight because I'm still listening to folks talking and taking things into consideration. And I think, Jim, I asked you early today and we talked about an online option. You know, where did Qualigo, where did online go from the state when they removed it? Was it funding? And if you could talk to you a little bit about that because either, you know, just to clear up our stands on it or what's the state doing about that online situation. So the Qual option that we had last year at the end of the school year, it expired. Okay, so we don't have that option for this school year. That has nothing to do with Canal Winchester local schools. That came from the state. The state did extend to have a different type of online school. We have applied for that application and we're waiting to hear back from the state on whether we have received that or not. We also did one for blended learning, which is the same thing. So we have applied for those things. We try to give our parents the option of whether they want to be in school or doing online. We're just waiting to hear back from the state on that. The original deadline was July 1st for one of the online options just to give you a little historical value. Back in July things were going good. Most of the districts didn't apply for it because we thought we could be dealing with this again. And so the state has extended that deadline and we applied for it again. And so we're going to see what happens from there. I want to bring that up because I know a couple of folks had talked about it. And I think either one decision or the other decision that might help families out stay in the district and give them an option for Michigan Education for the students. As far as building protection, I know I've asked you this every time and I'd like you to reiterate it again because the precautions that we're taking, the spray that we're putting down, we invested some good money in the equipment and the spreading equipment and the chemicals or substance whatever we want to call that. So we're still doing that. Just briefly about that if you could. We're still using the Prevent24x in the building. So it is being sprayed in the building every two to three months and it lasts up to 90 days. So yes, we're still following those protocols in the building. We're following, I heard earlier about hand washing and sanitizer. We'll make sure that we reiterate what they're saying about it and wash your hands as much as possible. The problem is you can't wash them all day long. Middle school kids, there's no seats in the classroom. And so the only place to wash your hands is going to the bathroom. Logistically, sometimes it's not set up to wash your hands as much as you possibly want. That's why we're using the sanitizer as much as possible. But I will address that with the staff, especially at the younger levels, to make sure that we'll wash our hands as much as possible, but you can't do it all the time. That's why we have the hand sanitizer out there for them. But the HVAC, I heard that a couple of times and our system is up to code in regards to the requirements needed to provide enough fresh air in the classrooms. That happened a couple of years ago. So all buildings are up to code on that. We have enough levels of seats. We have CO2 sensors that tell the HVAC system when new air is needed in individual classrooms throughout the district. So the HVAC system has been upgraded to make sure that it meets the ventilation requirements. Thank you. I just wanted to, again, folks in the district to understand the building prevention protocols that we're going through with sanitizing HVAC. What's that? Prevent 24x. I'd like to make another point. The quarantine matrix or a blueprint or whatever it is, protocol, it's not our... We didn't decide that. That's given to us by the Department of Health. Is that correct? That is correct. It makes no sense. It's what we've been given. So I spent some time last Friday I was in Indian Trail but I wanted to see the kids in action, the staff in action, see actually what they're going through, what folks are going through. And I was actually very surprised about how few masks I saw on students. It was probably... I'm not going to guess because I didn't like the report. It was lower than what I had expected. Which surprised me, giving the option to families whether they want to wear masks or not. It's pretty apparent that the majority of the families are not concerned with the students wearing masks, especially at the younger level who are not vaccinated. So that just took me by surprise. I was approaching board members. But when I witnessed that lunch, I was actually... I shouldn't say I'm surprised because I know they do trail in a large school with a great job, but I was just amazed about how orderly you can get a couple hundred second graders to sit on the green dot three feet away and eat their lunch. And I asked Mr. Riddle, I said, what are the green dots for? And he said, well, that's what the kids are supposed to sit. Because I actually went through every single dot and measured three feet for every dot. And I said, didn't you start winging it after a while? Because he's pretty good. He goes, no, I didn't. Because I took that rule or that yardstick every time because I wanted to make sure that we're achieving the minimum, not the minimum, but the requirement of three feet at the lunch table. Three feet across the lunch table is still being acquired in and also sitting next to us. And I know we were doing that all this the lunch you know, areas not just any trail. Again, I was very impressed with the cleanliness of the lunch room the quietness, the courteous of the students. I mean, usually I was expecting to walk in and just not totally paper torn around, but at least chaos, but this was very well done. So I was impressed with that. Yeah, I mean, you know, I understand that there's going to be some closer contact with students because that's just the nature of a kid is to hang out with another kid. At lunchtime, it actually looked you know, I was very impressed with that. I appreciate everyone's emails that we've received in the last couple of weeks. Sorry if we didn't respond every single one of you personally. I had to get out of there. I don't know if they're going to vote tonight or not, but I had to cough. I wanted to get out of there. What's up everybody? Hey, I'm trying to find this camera here. Well, yeah, I just had to get out of there. So I decided to leave. I wasn't going to speak. So I got here kind of late and I wasn't able. Yeah, so my daughter goes here. Many of you guys know that and I don't know if they do a mass mandate. I'm going to have to pull her out because I do not want my daughter going to school every day all day for eight hours. Put on one second guys. Bam. Bam. There we go. Yeah, so um, yeah, I can't really see your chats guys. I'm not going to try and read chats while I'm driving here. So Yeah, I just I did want to say something. I did want to speak, but I got there and they're like, Oh, you're too late. You can't speak. But I'm a little annoyed because they ended up letting like three people speak who didn't sign up. I guess I could have made a scene or something. I wasn't going to do that. But one thing that interests me and I wanted to ask them. I didn't really get a chance, but last year they had every student wearing masks and yet twice they had to shut the schools down for like two weeks. And then they ended up going back later. But even then, like with every student wearing masks, I kept caring about kids, you know, having to go home and stay home for two weeks because they got sick. And that went on through the rest of the school year. My daughter a couple times uh, had to stay home because she got a cough and we're like, Oh, we just wanted to stay home a day. And they're like, Nope, she's got to stay home two weeks. So it's like, how well do these masks even work? And I don't know if you guys noticed during the stream there, but the people all the people that were like wearing masks there they all seemed like hypochondriacs. Like they seemed really like scared. The woman that was sitting right next to me she was spraying her hands down like every couple minutes. I don't know if you guys caught that. I tried to catch it on the camera but every couple minutes she was spraying she was spraying her mask. She had two masks on. I mean, come on like you're wearing all that and you're still like scared. Like you still want everybody else to wear masks. I just, I don't get it. And I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the top countries, like I don't want to say Israel is the top vaccinated. I don't think they are, but they're near the top and they're also near the top as far as PPE adherence, meaning that everybody's wearing masks and they're still walking down and they're still having like record surges. So it's unless the schools are going to give the kids new N95 masks every day, I don't understand what it is they think they're accomplishing because I mean it's a bunch of kids in a school together all day long. These masks if they're wearing, you know, the medical ones those aren't really any good. These are the cloth ones. So and something else I noticed they kept, you know, all the pro mask people you guys probably noticed this too, they all said, oh, this isn't political. This isn't political. And all of them proceeded to get really political. I don't know if you guys caught that, but that one of them accused everybody who was against the mask mandates of being, of wanting kids to die. And that caused one guy to just leave. He's like, I'm done which I don't blame him because like I was having trouble not speaking up. And then another lady is like, oh, you know, she didn't say screw your freedom, but it was something along those lines. And it just was I don't, they seem to think there's a lot more kids dying of COVID than there actually is. And they also think there's way more people dying without comorbidities than there are. And I also found it interesting and guys this is not it's not a race issue. I'm not trying to say like all black people are a certain way, but I don't know if you notice, like I'm pretty sure every single pro mask person in there was an African American. And they all seemed really scared. And they were all like claiming that everybody they knew was on a ventilator, their kids were on ventilators, and like I don't, I'm not calling them liars, but it just seemed like it's like how do all of us not know anybody who's died of COVID or you know, or maybe you know, we all know people who got it and are now fine. We don't know, you know, none of the pro anti mask people had stories like that. So it's just weird to me. It almost seems like these people are just making stories up. They're such, they're so scared and they're so invested in this new ideology, this new mask, you know, and they all were saying slogans that you hear on the media, I'll slow the spread, slow the spread. You know, I'm not, it just seems like it's, it runs its course and then it's over, just like the flu. And a lot of these, a lot of the pro mask people seem to have it in their heads that you're going to stop the virus, you're going to get rid of the virus. We're never, a couple of them were like, this is never going to end if we don't all mask up. It's like, what are you talking about? Everybody masked up last year. And here we are again. But this year there's vaccines, but that doesn't matter. It's just I don't really like the format of that either because, you know, once someone said something, it's like, oh, I want to I want to counterpoint that. But they're like, it's not a debate. This isn't political. But now I'm just going to proceed to go on a political rant. One of the women there says it's not political and then proceeds to say that it's the parents that are the problem. It's not the kids. The kids know. The kids know that this is the way to go. It's like, oh yeah, well kids are easily manipulated, manipulated but yeah, let's just, you know, the kids want to do it because that's all they hear all day, you know, day in and day out and they're scared because you're scaring them. I'm pretty sure and I wanted to talk about this at the thing, being a chance, but the CDC, I'm pretty sure their data shows that only like 5% of all coronavirus deaths, I think just in America, only 5% was