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So that's one movie we watched and it was about three weeks ago that we decided on this. So we're gonna talk about in Bruges. We're gonna talk about there will be blood which is a fantastic, fantastic movie. They're all fantastic movies really. The reason I'm going fantastic, fantastic because I just watched there will be blood was the last one I had to watch or re-watch because this would have been the fifth time I've watched it last night and it still blows me away. Reckner, how are you doing? Two amazing movies. It's an inanimate... Ding Bobber, how are you doing? Larek, how's life? Oh yes, yes, my favorite topic. I love the film. There will be blood. Daniel Daylouis is outstanding. Outstanding, but we'll talk about it, right? The third movie we're gonna talk about is 2001 Space Odyssey, right? And we can talk about it. I'm not gonna say anything about it right now. And good morning Larek, and good morning. Larek, how are you doing? Reck, you're an inanimate... hilarious. How are you doing, mate? Doing well, doing well, flame. How are you? Randal, how are you? And the fourth movie we're gonna talk about is Taxi Driver. Okay, and all four of them, fantastic movies. One of them was, well, we'll talk about it. We'll leave that alone. We'll probably end up, by the time we wait until if we want to roll in and closing stuff. So we'll probably spend about 20 minutes on each one, right, on a two-hour live stream. On charter days, hey, Chicho, thought I was going to miss this stream, but got work done early. Awesome on charter days. I've been looking forward to this, right? It sort of kicked me back into watching movies because I've been going off on TV shows a lot and it's... I haven't been watching as many movies as I have in the past and this movie club thing sort of got me watching four movies in a matter of three weeks, really, and I haven't done that for a while. And it felt amazing, right? From one spectrum to the other, right? 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And on the next day, Monday, we're doing... no, no, sorry, we've got three more streams coming up after this one. We're doing a comic book reading tomorrow, relationships Monday, and we're doing a movie stream recommendation again for the next set of videos on Tuesday. So that's when we're going to recommend more videos. Okay, I hope everyone can make it. Absurd of con. What all have we watched so far? I watched all of them, beside these four we are doing today. I've only watched these four videos in the last three weeks. Hello, chy cho, great lasagna, how are we doing? Can't wait to talk about my favorite movie, 2001. Okay, gang, should we start our discussion? What movie should we talk about first? Great lasagna started it, so should we open up the floor talking about 2001 first, right? I think we should, because great lasagna brought it up, right? Good morning, folks. Catholic traditionalists, how are you doing? I drink your milkshake, drink, drink. I love that movie. I love that movie. I love that scene. Such a brilliant, but stellar scene. I drink your milkshake, I drink it right up. Okay, gang, let's talk about 2001. Everyone cool with that? We're about nine minutes in. Usually we're about 10 minutes for people to roll in, right? I'm assuming notifications went out. I'm not 100% sure if they did or not. Let me show you. We'll wait a couple more minutes. Let me show you what snacks I got. I got apple and tahini with honey. Okay, it's a really good snack, by the way. And tahini with either maple syrup or honey is fantastic. Okay, really good, really good. I got crab apple liqueur, salut, and I got tea and water. Okay, I haven't watched any, been busy with work, but I have watched Taxi Driver and there will be a bit of a long time ago. Okay, cool on charter days. So gang, should we talk about 2001? Should we talk about 2001? Let's talk about this movie. Okay, an epic drama of adventure and exploration. In other words, a complete mind F, right? What a movie. Now for me, I'm just going to give you my take on 2001. I've watched it, I don't know how many times now. I probably watched it from beginning to end, twice only in one sitting. It's this, this time when I watched it, I watched, it's basically, by the way, it's got to be a given. If we're doing this, we're talking about discussion. There are spoilers in this stream. If you haven't watched these movies, and if you don't want spoilers before you watch a movie, don't listen to this video, don't participate in this live stream until you watch the movies. And if you're thinking about the live stream, the video will be up on pitch shooting YouTube later, so you've got plenty of time to watch the movies. Okay, major shark, how are you doing? Shake. Oh, I keep on forgetting. Is it shake or sharks? Shakes. Major shakes. Hope you're having a wonderful day. Much love. Shake, shake. Nice, nice. Shake. Thank you very much for popping in. Catholic tradition at Lark and Kuber developed a book and a screenplay for 2001 jointly and about the same time. Very interesting writing approach. It was phenomenal. It's broken. This movie is basically broken down into three segments, three, four segments. And it gets sort of tripier and tripier with each segment. So there's really four parts to 2001 that I could see. And by the way, 2001 Space Odyssey is, as far as I know about, consider it, is one of the most talked about movies ever, right? There are videos online analyzing 2001 from each panel, from each motion, dialogue, and they analyze the movie for hours. So it's probably, I don't know, do you guys know this or not? Like, does anyone know this? Is 2001 the most controversial, most talked about movie in movie history? Absolute masterpiece 2001 Space Odyssey from the genius mind of Stanley Kubrick. Yeah. A clockwork orange is another brilliant piece of work as well. For sure. Stanley Kubrick, the only movie I believe that I haven't seen from Stanley Kubrick is Bart Barton Fink. And I watched like 10, 15 minutes of it. I just wasn't in the mood to watch it. And I've never checked this out. And I've never watched The Shining from beginning to end. Right? Crazy. I don't know why. Clockwork Orange was a revolution to me as a young teenager, was it? Reckner? Eduardo? I've been wanting to watch Eyes Wide Shut. It's brilliant. It's very good. I, we all wonder what are the scenes that Kubrick was not allowed or not able to put into the movie. Okay. Catholic Traditionist. The movie was intended to provide the amazing visual aspects while the book went more into detail on the science and explained more deeply what was actually happening. Really, Catholic Traditionist. I didn't notice. And I've never read the 2001 book. So I, at some point, I think I need to read that book. 2001, it's a ride. Really, it's an amazing ride of human evolution and consciousness to a certain degree. Right? And the desire of humanity to explore in large part. Right? And by the way, have you guys seen 2010? It should not have been made as far as I'm concerned. I've only watched 2010 once. And when I watched it, when I first came out in 1980s, I was like, I don't know. I shouldn't have made it. Right? Barton Fink wasn't that directed by the Coen brothers? Oh, is it Barton Fink? Oh, maybe Barton. I'm not thinking about Barton Fink. I'm thinking about me and names. What's that piece that he did? Yeah, Barton Fink. I think it is the Coen brothers. What's that movie? It's not Barton Fink. Stanley. Man. Me and getting the film. I'm just checking it out. Film career. Film are worse. I'm thinking about Barry Linden. I'm thinking about Barry Linden. I haven't seen Barry Linden. Sorry, gang. I better get that name right. Barry Linden I haven't seen. Okay. I love Eyes Wide Shut. Great performance from both Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. 2010 was made too soon and go further. It's been 10 years since 2010. Clark wrote a third book. 3001. The final Odyssey as well. So it was 2010 based on the book, continuation of the book. So there was 2001 book and then 2010 book and then 3001. The Shining. Barry Linden. I haven't seen that as well. Cool. Sorry, 3001 was the fourth book. 2061. Odyssey 3 was the third book. Wow, wow, wow. I didn't know this. So there's four books in the series in the 2001 series and 2001 kicks it off. Catholic traditionalist. So have you guys seen 2010 and how many thought it was a good movie and it was true to the original source. Yes, four books in the space Odyssey series. Have you read all four Catholic traditionalists? If so, I'm really curious about 2010. If you say it's worth watching, I will watch it since I just watched 2001. So maybe with fresh eyes, older eyes, wiser eyes, I'll have a different perspective on 2010. Nah, I really need to watch it. 2010, it was a struggle, but I haven't tried to watch it recently. Yeah, Cheryl, neither have I. I never even really considered rewatching 2010. I've watched 2001. I don't know how many times. Again, most of the times I fall asleep through the movie and I had to watch 2001 in three sittings. I couldn't, maybe because I was just doing so much. I was tired and sleepy and whatnot. In 2001, the soundtrack for it, absolutely brilliant. Just the noise. Right? Just the build up. It's just hypnotic. Absolutely brilliant. 2001 is an experience. I wouldn't really call it a movie. I would call it a psychedelic experience personally. I was not impressed with any one other than 2001. Really? Okay. Wait a second. Any other with any one other than 2001. So Catholic traditionalists, there's only been 2001, 2010. They haven't made the other two or shorts of them or anything, have they? Okay. Arthur Clark has other works that are much better than 2001 sequel. Oh, you're talking about the books. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm going to be unpopular for this, but I didn't like 2001. Elder God, did you end up passing out through the movie? I know I had to do it in three settings. And again, it's not a movie in terms of a hero's journey type of story movie. I think 2001, to me, is an experience. Lark Bark, originally Stanley Kubrick was going to direct Schindler's List, but handed over to Steven Spielberg instead. And the other film, AI, oh, the AI was going to be directed by, oh, I would have loved to see that one, Stanley Kubrick as well. And the other film I was going to be directed by Stephen Kubrick, but instead directed by Steven Spielberg and AI was going to be directed by Stanley Kubrick, but instead directed due to the passing of Stanley. I would have loved to have seen Stanley Kubrick's AI. Steven Spielberg, I am not a fan of just for the record, but we're talking about 2001. Luckily, I was able to watch it 2001 space Odyssey. Lark, too many names in that statement. Yeah, too many. Lark was looping. Sorry about the typology. So I tend to text fast. No worries, no worries. I tend to write, I tend to write emails fast and then I tend to read slow sort of try to anyway, take it all in, right? As far as 2001 space Odyssey. Okay. What did you take away if you've seen it as the ending of the movie? Because I think 2010 tried to explain it, but it wasn't to my satisfaction if I remember correctly. So as the ending, there's a lot of discussion and I've watched the video a long time ago, analyzing 2001, talking about the birth and rebirth and death of representing humanity and consciousness and stuff like this. It was very confusing. It was very confusing. That's why I think it's one of the most talked about movies because there's so many people that have so many different interpretations of 2001. And there's a, by the way, there's a series, someone did a series of interpreting 2001 and they put out like hours of video of 2001. It starts off at the beginning with the on earth with the two tribes of, they're not Neanderthals, but they're what do you call it monkeys, but not monkeys of conflict and the appearance of the 2001s, sometimes called the first major sci-fi movie to deal with transhumanism. Really? To deal with transhumanism? I didn't know that. And it blows me away that 2001 was made in 1968, the cinematography and the way they made it appear of the gravity shifting, right? Absolutely brilliant, brilliant. Oh my god, I love space Odyssey. Mr. Top Ramen. Yeah, so good, so good. So it's the first sci-fi movie to deal with transhumanism. Why would they consider transhumanism? Transhumanism to me is the merging of biology and technology, but to me, maybe that would be true if it was dealing with AI, specifically in the third segment, right? With HAL, even the video, the meaning of 2001, didn't help. It was too hippie for me to understand the movie. I don't think I've seen that one, the meaning of 2001. I've just seen one video segments of it where it's a YouTuber just analyzing 2001 up like just crazy, right? Stanley Kubrick. Larg, Stanley Kubrick originally was supposed to direct both Schindler- Larg. I think we got the idea. That sums it up correctly. That sums it up correctly. So he was supposed to direct Schindler's List and AI, catholic to the transhumanism, the belief or theory that the human race can evolve beyond its current physical and mental limitations. So it doesn't necessarily have to be transhumanism, merging of technology and biology. That's one way. I never really thought about it that way. I always thought about transhumanism, merging of biology and technology. So if you can go past beyond your current physical mental limitations, so the use of entheogens could even be considered transhumanism if you take it down that direction. HAL was misunderstood. HAL just needed reassurance that he was not going to be terminated. Okay, cool. I tend to be a perfectionist. No worries, Larg. Being a perfectionist is not a bad idea. Bowman's rebirth as the star child can be seen as such an evolution. Oh, at the end. At the end. Was it a rebirth? Yeah, I guess it was a rebirth, wasn't it? I consider it the ending more of a death, this side of the cycle of life to a certain degree, where there was an interaction and the alien entity wanted to make sure that, is it Bowman? Bowman had a full life experience. I never really thought about it as a rebirth, but I guess it could be. Interesting. 2001's confusing as, like really, I already surpassed transhumanism. I take steroids to surpass my human form. You're amplifying your human form when you're taking steroids. You don't surpass it. Which is better? 2001's Space Odyssey or Blade Runner. I don't think you can make that comparison. They're totally two different movies. I think they're totally two different movies. 2001 in Space Odyssey has only one little segment with an AI that isn't an android, right? It's a program specifically. Could Hal be considered the ego? Could Hal be considered the ego? Human ego possibly. Because they're all shocked that, I forget what level of technology it was, what they refer to them, that version of computers, that generation of computer had never ever made a mistake. So there was discrepancy between what Hal did and what the earth sister tech was stating, which was stating that Hal had made a mistake, and obviously Hal had made a mistake. To Mr. Tom Robin. Funny, funny, funny. 2001 is a love and hate thing, I think. Do you either end up loving it or you end up just hating it for the fact that it's looked upon so highly, I think. Cheryl, beyond appreciating the role of sound soundtrack and the Hal IBM tie, I still can't get excited about 2001. The Hal as Frankenstein's monster allegory is kind of neat too, but it feels like a stretch given the other elements of the movie. Cool? Right, well said to Lark. Computers don't make mistakes. The programmer did. See, here's the kicker. It can't be the program. It had to be the computer. So Hal had to be an AI, because the same program on earth, that same generation of tech was saying that there was no air in the equipment, right? So there was discrepancy between the two programs. That means there had to be something else that was in there if they were identical programs. If they were identical programs, then they would give the same result, right? Unless there was catastrophic failure, and that's what the astronaut was checking. They were trying to find out if there was catastrophic failure or not, right? So they had to shut them down, but Hal did not agree. Catholicism says, Hal was programmed to deceive Paul and Bowman. This intention with Hal's perfection is what caused the breakdown. Ah, true, true, true, because there was a secondary code on there saying that Hal had certain amount of information about their mission that was not conveyed to the astronauts. So Hal's mission superseded the astronauts mission. And I guess that same program module was not loaded on the program on earth. So that could have been given the discrepancy between them. So Hal was trying to deceive them. Yeah, okay, Catholic traditionals. That's right, that's right. So as far as Hal was concerned, he was running the mission. And the astronauts obviously agreed on that. He was the key element in that mission. But the astronauts had not realized that according to Hal, they were disposable. Okay, a lot of people complained that 2001 spades, I'll say it was too long for a film. No, I did. Yeah, I know a lot of people complained about it because they pass out during a movie, which I tend to do. But the first couple times I watched it, I didn't pass out. Can you summarize the movie for those who haven't seen it? You got a few hours. This basically starts off with human beings on earth, evolving from monkeys, basically, with an alien species encountering them, coming to them, and them developing tools and using tools. And then it just goes straight into space. Right. The football team I grew up rooting for, they run out of on the on the field, to 2001 space Odyssey, it's like, haha, it is so freaking amazing. Awesome. Awesome. Pixie Chichu, are you interested in dangerous? Are you interested in dangerous AI in media? I recommend the movie Demon's Seat. Oh, I've heard about that movie, probably the second best AI flick. Oh, really? Link it up on our Discord, Pixie. Better yet, show up on Tuesday and recommend it in our movie club. Computers can't lie. Wow, was it an outside influence? Ah, it was a module that was there. So my curiosity is, why did Hal say that instrument had an error? So was the module creating problems in Hal's programming that was causing it to detect an error in the equipment? Or why? Why did Hal say there was an error that one of the instruments was going to malfunction? Which I don't mind long films. No. Padre, it's a tone poem by Strauss called also, Sprach Zerathustra. Is it? Sprach Zerathustra. OP 30. Padre, the song just builds and builds until the end when they run out. The energy in the stadium gets absolutely electric. Always my favorite part of the game. Nice. Even before the game starts is your favorite part of the game. The energy must be amazing. The soundtrack for 2001 is absolutely brilliant. The soundtrack to 2001 is at par with the soundtrack as there will be blood. The soundtrack for there will be blood is one of the most amazing soundtracks ever. Ever. What's up, dude? I feel so relived. I'm returning my lease car now. I don't have to worry about payments. Nice. Femto. Nice. Freedom. Freedom. Extra funds. Fantastic. Ciccio, what remedies should I use for bad headache? First of all, drink water. A lot of people get a lot of headache because they're dehydrated. Okay, so if just drinking water and let the water go through you a little bit, right? So drink water, give it about half an hour, see if your headache eases. If not, its muscles try massaging yourself the back of the back of the head. Those are the two that I would recommend. I kept checking in and out whilst I watched it. I love the intro, though. Yeah, the intro was amazing. And Elder God, yeah. I watched it in three settings, man. Sure. Which was in turn inspired by Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Nice. Catholic traditionals. So the soundtrack is a poem by Strauss which was inspired by Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Man, no wonder people analyze 2001 down to the minutes. Yeah, it got me interested in reading Nietzsche. Cool, cool, cool. Very cool, very cool. So in terms of, let's do a rating on this thing. In terms of the four movies we watched, how many people consider 2001 to be their favorite? Elder God is on the side of his least favorite. For me, it would be my second favorite. My favorite is There Will Be Blood, Tahini and Maple Syrup, and Apple. Is it gonna focus? There you go. Very delicious. Last of the four? We do last of the four. Elder God, Lisa. I added honey. Lots of honey. Honey and apple is really good. Honey and apple is fantastic. So I made this one. I added a fair bit of honey to it. I wanted to fall on the keyboard. Come on. And with Maple Syrup it becomes thinner of course, right? I'd give it two thumbs up. Terminator in space, buddy. Gang. Should we move on to the next movie? Any last words regarding 2001? So according to Catholic traditionalists, while the book 2001 is fantastic, the other ones were not. That was good. And you guys have actually piqued my interest to watch 2010 again. Taxi driver. Let's talk about taxi driver. 2001 has exactly one joke in it. Does that have a joke? What's the joke? Ground before we move on. What was the joke in 2001? What was the joke in 2001? I can't remember a joke in 2001. When he's trying to figure out how to use the bathroom. That's right. That's right. We're standing there reading these huge instructions of how to use the bathroom. Was that a joke though? Or was that just the science of it? Should we go to taxi driver? Let's do taxi driver. We're taking down 2001. It's meant to be humorous. Stanley Kubrick's humorous. I guess it was considering the rest of the movie, right? Or three shells jokes. Three shells joke. Oh yes, taxi driver. Another extraordinary piece of work. Let's do it. Gang, taxi driver. Taxi driver. What a movie. What a movie. There's so much in it, right? Demolition man. Was anyone here able to see taxi driver in theater when he came out? Did I see it in theaters? I can't remember when it came out. No, it came out in 1975, so I didn't see it in the theater. I think it came out in 1975. Are you talking to me? Are you talking to me? Awesome. Robert De Niro in his best, really. Too bad. They're very unfortunate at what he has become, right? Taxi driver and there would be blood. Two of the most uplifting feel-good hit films of all time. Maple Vine. Taxi driver. It was phenomenal. 1976 it came out. Okay, cool. Funny. That was three. Yeah, I didn't see. I saw Apocalypse Now in the theaters. Wow, what an experience. But that's for another day. So taxi driver. What are your takes on taxi driver? Is it about reaching the brink of insanity and coming back? Is it about trying to find purpose in life? Is it a political statement for sure it is to a certain degree? Is it a social statement for sure? Is it just a human statement? Is it about relationships, pushing the boundaries a little bit too far? Making sure that you do not make people feel uncomfortable to a level where they fear you, right? Or fear the situation. Because there was that situation as well in taxi driver where Robert De Niro takes the, I forget her name, the actress name or the character's name, when he takes her to the movie theater, movie theater, right? He crossed the boundary, right? And he wasn't aware of the feelings of the person he was interacting with, which is something that we see huge problems with in our society, where people cross the line sometimes intentionally, sometimes unintentionally, where they don't have the other people's feelings, emotions, or they're not considering it, right? How their behavior is going to make the other feel, right? Eduardo, oh my God, watching Apocalypse Now on the theater must have been amazing. It's one of my favorites. Eduardo, I got a story to tell about Apocalypse Now and being able to watch it in the theater, but we'll leave that alone for another time. Absurdacon, I'm very curious how it felt in the 70s when it came out. The main character was probably a horrifying new concept at the time, while today the main character is someone who is much more common. Absurdacon, would he have been a horrifying character? I don't know, I don't think so. Look at Dog Day Afternoon. Dog Day Afternoon by Al Pacino came out in 1960s, right? And it's got a lot of similarities between Taxi Driver and Dog Day Afternoon, by the way, gang is an amazing movie as well, right? Spider-Man, how are you doing? Hey, I'm here. I just have to lurk because I'm packing. Spider-Man, brother, take care of your move. You're doing a move in two weeks. We're happy to entertain you, have the stream going to keep you occupied, keep it fun, the packing anyway. The cinematography, especially at the beginning, is very cool. Long shots, long shots, beautiful shots, right? And that scene in the hallway with Taxi Driver has been mimicked multiple times in multiple action movies. Oh, Betsy, that's right, that's the girl's name. Thanks, Cheryl. Lark, oh my god, there's so many skeptics and analysis on Taxi Driver. Yeah, yeah. I don't think it's as much as 2001, but there's a lot of them, right? Social alienation and the consequences is clearly your primary theme in Taxi Driver. I think it's all, there's a, Catholic traditions, I agree, 100%, and there is also the brink of madness, right? This person came out of the military, when he went into the military, he was broken, and then came out of the military, and he didn't know how to interact with society, right? He started seeing everyone as the enemy, right? And he just needed to take out one enemy to feel sane again. Shepard, that's right. I think, I think it's not it's Shepard, something's Shepard. I forget her name. Sybil Shepard, that's right, Sybil Shepard. Sybil Shepard. Damn, beat me to it. Uh-huh. Oh, I got kicked off all the way to the top. Cooper is Cooper. Please, Betsy, in Taxi Driver, yeah. Maple violent thine. Yeah, for sure, Catholic traditionals. The contradiction between the isolation and life in the big city. Yeah, huge, huge. Catholic traditionals. How are you? I don't feel like I've seen you in a while, Sybil Shepard. Attica, and that's from dog day afternoon. What a movie. What a movie. Taxi Driver almost killed the president. Yeah, he needed, he needed to find an enemy and take somebody out, right? Why not someone that was challenging his existence, really? Or showing the contradictions. Crazy, busy lady. Yes, Taxi Driver has dynamic cinematography. Uh, grab, Chicho. I don't know if you guys talked about it, but I missed the 2001 discussion, so I'm going to link a video in film about the scene in 2001 with the Russian scientist. Okay, for sure, grab. That'd be awesome, actually. That'd be awesome. Absurd, Chicho. I'm not familiar with dog day afternoon. To me, watching Taxi Driver was like looking into the life of an incal. Uh, which became much more widely known in recent years. Um, what I call, I don't know, AbsurdCon. Maybe I'm not, I don't like the term. I don't, I don't even know how to use an incal, incal. I really don't like it because it's putting people on a box, right? I think there's a lot of mental issues associated with being isolated, being shunned, uh, not understood by society because everybody's busy, right? To a certain degree. Oh, that's right. Out of love for Jody Foster too. Yeah, Jody Foster. Fantastic. Fantastic. Male masculinity versus feminine for me, Elder God says, with a touch of insanity. Male masculinity versus feminine, feminism for me, with a touch of insanity. Cool, cool. Padre, I think a theme that struck with me is that all these characters try to reach, reach each other, but just cannot relate at all. Almost every conversation between all the characters, all of them trying to connect, but all of them failing to break through to one another. Yeah. Yeah, there was a lot of that and there was a lot of everybody's bubble, right? This person was talking about this, but they were looking at it from their own perspective. Like when they're in the diner where one of the other taxi driver gets up and says, oh, take a look at this. This is a tile, something of this actor, famous person, and it's, it's over here. And he offers us the Robert De Niro and says, hey, if you sell this, you can keep half of it and give half to me. And Robert De Niro is like, what, what in the world are you talking about? Like this is like so alien to him that is like the, the, his plightest reply was, uh, I'm not interested, right? Because it's just not at all what the world he lives in, right? So that's a great, uh, as Maple Violent Dine says, great point, positive, great point. The only person really was a taxi driver that was doing it for 20 years and everyone kept on the one who kept on telling stories and people listened to him and Robert De Niro pulled him out and said, you know, I want to talk to you. And that person was aware. That's the only moment really that you see. Uh, well, there's a couple other moments as well with the interaction between Robert De Niro and Jody Foster, where they understand each other. But one of the first ones was the, the older taxi driver. When Robert De Niro is, you can tell he's in distress, he's, he's about to lose it. And the guy, all he says, he starts talking at random, just to calm him down. And it works because at the end Robert De Niro says, I really don't know what you're talking about, but thank you. And that distress level is gone from him, especially when he came out of the, the cafe where he looks at that, the black guy that had come out with a hat and he looks at him like, that was a brilliant scene, by the way. What a scene. Robert De Niro just standing there, eyeing the guy down, right? And the other place would be obviously Robert De Niro and Betsy Sybil Shepherd, right? Where Robert De Niro, they're having a good time, but their conversation is not linked to each other. Sybil Shepherd is just, to her, Robert De Niro is an unknown. And Robert De Niro is just loving the interaction because he's, he can finally talk to someone openly without being judged, right? In a kind way. But Robert De Niro, they, they don't really understand each other because he takes Sybil Shepherd to a movie, right? And Sybil Shepherd was willing to go for the ride because she found it interesting. But Robert De Niro really crossed the line, right? Even because he didn't really understand that he crossed the line. He thought this was normal because he'd seen couples there, right? Catholic tradition is Padre, agreed. People everywhere and yet so many isolated from one another. Padre, the older taxi driver gives him great advice, but our main character just is totally living in another reality. Yeah. Cheryl, I think he only wanted to assassinate the candidate in revenge for Betsy spurring his advances, advances upon advances upon advances. The quantity of returned flowers stashed in his apartment gave him, gave me anxiety to be honest. Yet when we, when he burns the flowers before heading out to the rally, it indicates a turn that anyone else cashed the fresh flowers in the background of that scene, maybe indicating a new mission to save Iris. Oh, I didn't cash that, Cheryl. There was a part where it was a little disturbing where you saw the flowers on the ground, where the camera is panning the flowers on the ground and it shows the bed frame and sounds and then it cuts to another scene. And then I think after that comes where he's cut his mohawk, goes to the rally and stuff like that. So that part was disturbing, but I didn't cash the next mission with Iris. Oh man, now I gotta watch it again or try to track that scene. And for sure, his was just revenge, just to prove to Betsy that he was a man. And he could, he could be as great as the candidate, right? As important as that person. Maple violent thrine. To me, it's interesting that throughout the film, Travis directs his anger at all the wrong things, race, woman, sexuality, etc. He finally directs his anger towards someone who's actually in charge of the reins of power, but he does so without any analytical understanding of that. So it's just a sort of nihilism instead of righteousness. Is that the way you took it as a nihilism? I think what the way I took it was, he directed his anger to someone he understood, right? Because his anger towards everybody else, well, when he was driving, when the candidate first gets into his taxi and he says, oh, you have any recommendations? And he goes, just a cesspool, get rid of, he doesn't understand any of this, right? But then when he has a conversation with the pimp, and he did a great job, the actor, with the pimp, he understood him so he could direct his anger towards him. He understood that that was a vile creature. There was no doubt in his mind, right? So I didn't see him as nihilism. I did see the righteousness though, he was trying to be righteous, he was sincerely trying to be a good human being, right? Oh, chat kicked me up again, let's see, absurdicon, absurdicon, chicho. He was extremely misunderstood, but the things he says on his date with Betsy are just creepy, that entire relationship between them was extremely uncomfortable indeed, right? Travis was clearly an unstable person and instead of seeking help, he snaps in the worst ways possible. He's not a good guy or a hero at all, he's an anti-hero, the way I said, or at the end, he becomes the anti-hero. I think he's going through insanity, but I think taxi driver to me is the birth of the anti-hero, right? He may be a product of what's happened to him, but that doesn't excuse his behavior. To a certain degree absurdicon, I agree. When he, when civil shepherd cuts it, he needs to back away, step away. When he comes out of theater, grabs civil shepherd's arm, that to me became extremely disturbing, right? So his conversation between Betsy and Robert De Niro was a little uncomfortable because they really weren't talking about the same thing, but it was going back and forward. So there the line hadn't been crossed yet. For me, the line was crossed when civil shepherd runs out of the movie theater and Robert De Niro comes and grabs her arm right there. That is one of the most uncomfortable moments in the movie, and then it builds from there, right? When he goes into her work and curses her and stuff like that, and it becomes very uncomfortable for sure. Danger, sometimes I wonder, will God ever forgive us for what we have done to each other? Then I look around and I realize God left this place a long time ago. We're talking taxi driver. Yeah, I'm talking taxi driver. What's going on? That's, that, that looks like something, I think that could be a script from taxi driver Robert De Niro saying it. Harvey Keitel was the pimp. Harvey Keitel, fantastic, right? Catholic traditions to maple, violent thrine, good point. His rescue of iris can be seen as a form of redemption. If so, though, it is a very imperfect form since he was motivated by a sense of desperate anger and frustration as much as any scene of nobility. Also notice his eyes in the mirror of the cap at the end. It seems clear that the rage and perhaps madness is still there waiting to re-emerge. Really Catholic traditions? I took that, the ending to be the rage, the rage is gone, right? And I think the rage disappeared from him when he tried to blow his own head off at the scene when he rescues iris. To me, the ending of the insanity was him going like this. And he finally, when the cops come, it just goes like this with his finger. To me, that was the end of his insanity. And that was a rebirth to me of the more calm taxi driver that he's living his life in a sense that he's accomplished something meaningful, right? Because he had the letter framed on his wall. So to me, that was the rage from him was gone at the end. That's the sense I got. The scene, and I don't know if anyone remembers, but where Martin Scorsese's character sits in the back seat talking to Travis Bickel, suppose Travis Bickel is having a conversation with himself in that scene. Is that the husband that's staking out the wife that's talking about the Magnum? Assuming that it's not a dream scene, supposedly. Yeah, it was cool to see Harvey Keitel as a pimp, yeah. And Martin Scorsese and Robert De Niro and Harvey Keitel have worked a lot together. Travis seems to me to be desperately searching for meaningful life. So in a way opposite to Nila's attitude, I agree. I agree with Tab. I don't consider him nihilist at all. I think he's trying to find meaning, he's trying to do good, but he just doesn't know how, right? It's like those who have never had proper parenting don't know how to be a parent, right? Travis Bickel getting aggressive by grabbing Betsy. Oh, okay, okay. That part. Yeah, I agree with that. I guess my reading is just that he constantly misses the mark in what is causing the emersionation and isolation that the social order creates. For sure he is confused. He's one confused SOB, right? Constantly towards specific problems instead of indicating the social order as a whole. Yeah, correct, Jojo. Deep fried belly pork. Thank you for the Twitch Prime sub. Have you already talked about it? We already deep fried belly pork. We already talked about 2001. It was the first one we talked about, but you can drop things about 2001 if you want to bring it up, right? But the focus will be taxi driver and then next ones. But we can definitely, you know, any of the movies is okay to drop comments on. He was able to process all of his trauma by rescuing Jody and killing the pimp. After that, it just does seem the world does not seem to bug him as much anywhere. That's the way I see it as Wal Padre. I think he killed his anger by almost killing himself, right? That husband seeing Travis Becker is having a conversation with himself while nobody's sitting in the backseat. God, I can't remember it now. I can't remember it now. Chicho, I agree with you. He's very much an anti-hero and he's fallen into insanity, but I don't know if I agree with you saying he's magically cured after his attempted suicide. To me, at the end, it looks more like Travis is in a coma and his brain is fantasizing about being hail the hero for killing those pimps. He was a vigilante, indeed. There was no reason for him to be hail the hero and there was no reason for Betsy to come visit him after the way he treated her. Here's the thing with Betsy. Betsy's character was attracted to power. To a certain degree, I'm calling it power, but there's a certain character that was there that was existing between the hero and the person that was running for president. They had a mission. They had a cause and they were willing to sacrifice everything for it. I think Betsy played true to the role. I think it was written very well where she comes and visits him because she's interested in experiences and now she understood that the hero was not an evil person, was not a threat. At the time he was, but she saw him in a different light as a savior, right? That's the way I see it. I'm certain I agree. He's dreaming. He's dreaming. Man, I wish I knew which part of the, which part of the movie that is. I need to re-watch that scene again. Where, where, when it occurs. Padre, he even gives Betsy a ride and she no longer has any power over him anymore. Whereas before, she kind of had control over him. He broke the spell she had over him. Yeah, I agree. Roxa. And I think it was him releasing his insanity, his confusion about humanity, really. Cheryl, I was also irritated that Scorsese ended with Betsy, dream or no, elder god, seeking out the hero. It felt like a reinforcement or acknowledgement of righteousness in his treatment of Betsy et al. So you talk, you guys are talking about the last bit with Betsy being a dream? Really? Padre, I think it kind of has that coma feel to it because in a way the old beckel has died and now he's someone else in a way he's living in the afterlife. Have you or will you be discussing, oh discuss bad lieutenant. If we watch bad lieutenant, we will definitely discuss bad lieutenant. And what a fantastic movie. At par with taxi driver and the professional, Leon. Bad lieutenant is so good, so dark, so beautiful. Absurd icon, Chicho. That's an interesting take on Betsy and it's supposed to be why she, she isn't interested in that guy that works at the political movement, agreed, right? He's, he's at the same level as she is. So she's not interested in that, right? They're just friends. I haven't seen taxi driver on top of my list though. Oh, you got to see taxi driver. Watch it, it's pretty good. Very good. Rocksack, elder god, Cheryl, he only sees her in the mirror. Never, never directly. I think she would never see him again after the earlier events. So you think that was a whole dream sequence elder god? Really? No, but when she gets out of the taxi, he sees her. So it's not only in the mirror. She gets out and says how much and he just smiles and drives away. So I don't think that was a dream sequence. You guys think that was a dream sequence? I didn't take it like that at all. I kept on hearing about that too, that Betsy was a dream. Wow. One would hope, but the reinforcement is there nonetheless. If it was a dream sequence, I wish they made it a little bit more clear. I wish they didn't show her getting out of the car standing beside him. I wish they showed it just from the back. How much is that? And then him smiling and then her getting out. Lark, oh my god, bad lieutenant starring Hayvik Hytel and directed by Abel Ferrera. Leon, my favorite film, 10 out of 10, 10 out of 10, for sure. And yes, I love Leon, the professional. Gary Oldman is an outstanding actor and director by Luk Benson, Luk Benson. Absurdacon, Chicho. The main reason I think Travis is in a coma at the end is because he gets shot in the neck during his raid on the pimps. This seems like it would be really hard injury to walk away from. And it definitely seems like it could put Travis in a coma. Well, he was in a coma, but he came out. So there was news prints. So you think that whole ending is a dream sequence? I didn't take it like that at all, but he didn't get shot. He got shot in the neck, but you could see the bullet. It was opened. The wound was open. So the bullet didn't go through. It got stuck. It, what do you call it? Not ricocheted, but cut him, right? That's the way I saw it. Gary Oldman constantly pushed character, creative, yeah. Yeah, I don't think it was a dream sequence. I think it was just closure. I think it was just closure. That's the way I see it. Catholic tradition for what is worth. Paul Schrader, the screenwriter, has stated that he intended the end of the movie to represent somewhat of a loop back to the beginning with Travis's rage building anew. Ah, as with all art though, the viewer can and should seek meaning beyond that, which was directly intended by the artist. As a big believer in the importance of redemption, I quite like interpretations that see a happier ending such as it is than the one I interpreted. Wow, okay, Catholic tradition. I didn't know that. And there's a thing that maybe Robert De Niro acted in a way to give it closure. He didn't act in a way to show the rage because I really didn't see the rage at the end. I'm gonna watch the ending again, just to see if I pick up on anything else. Catholic traditionals, the epilogue is not a dream sequence. It's just the restarting of the movie. Okay, cool. So it's a loop you're saying. I've always felt that the last frame could be spliced to the first frame and the movie started all over again. Paul Schrader. Oh, so that's what he said. Man, now I gotta watch the ending in the beginning of Taxi Driver because it starts off with him driving the sequences, right? I just noticed movies use a lot of milk references in the movies. There will be blood. Pass through, though and though. What is your view of the film? Ninth gate. Ninth gate, ninth gate, ninth gate. I've seen it. I just can't remember which one it is. That's the horror one. I need a refresher of which one that is. Unpopular opinion. I thought Joker was better than Taxi Driver. No, I disagree, Padre. I like the Joker, but I think Taxi Driver had something else. And even if they were a par, Taxi Driver in my opinion was supersede Joker because Taxi Driver came first by three decades, four decades, four and a half decades. Cheryl, I definitely had to process hammer perceptions and emotions changed from when I first watched this in my early 20s until now, especially tied to Betsy. Again, Iris's age and issues associated with PTSD, particularly how Vietnam era veterans were not supported appropriately. Excellent movie, but lost to process, lost to process. I agree. Then the relationship between Betsy and De Niro, that had you at the edge, really uncomfortable when it goes in and just lets it loose on Betsy. Just imagine how many people in real life, women in real life, had experienced that. And how we see that in the movie as the man doing this and how insane that man looked and how vulnerable Betsy looked. And just imagine if this situation had occurred somewhere where there's no one else around, how far would have that gone? That's one of the main takeaways I think we should have from this movie as well, that we should not cross that type of boundary, specifically as a male ever, ever, right? Those eyes were mad at the, as at the end. Absurd of Conchiccio, I took that whole ending as a dream sequence. It simply seemed to be too good for the reality that the rest of the movie gives us. It's extremely dark and it's showing Travis' descent into madness and reminds us multiple times that Travis is not a good guy. Why would Travis then be rewarded with a happy ending? I have a friend that has quoted this before multiple times and it took me a while to process when I first heard it. Good things happen to bad people, right? Good things happen to bad people. Now, I disagree that Travis was, you're saying Travis is not a good guy. I agree with that, but I don't think Travis was a bad guy. Travis was insane, okay? And that was a product of our society, right? Especially coming out of, because we don't know. At the beginning, when he goes to apply for the taxi job, right? Where the guy is sitting, oh, he says I'm a Marine and the guy, the dispatch guy, not the dispatch guy, but the manager guy says, oh, I was a Marine too. And he tries to get a little bit of info out of Robert De Niro, but Robert De Niro just brushes it off. So we don't know what took place, right? They don't try to justify who Travis is based on his history. So there's a lot of unknowns there. Any guys, if you don't already know, don't follow women. Cheryl, well put, any guys, if you don't already know, don't follow women, don't stake out women and don't really track anyone that is ending a relationship with you. May it be male or female, by the way. And this goes both ways. There are women who also stalk men, right? But it's not as threatening as men stalking women, right? Never, ever, ever, ever go there unless you want to be considered insane, okay? That's a very interesting way to look at it, Padre says, regarding Catholic traditions, Nightgain is Roman Pulaski. I would have to look it up by deep fried belly pork. I'm going to scroll down gang, because we got to move on to the next movie. We need enough time to talk about these things. Another interesting thing I noticed, as the movie goes on, Travis's hair gets shorter and shorter until he shaves it into a mohawk for his assassination attempt. I think a mark on the good work of art multiple times. Milk makes you badass. Lark, well, according to the director, Travis survived the shooting, shootout, and chances are good he's going to erupt again. In the last second of the film, Travis looks into his rear-view mirror and sees his old, old, wild eyes looking back. Oh, I gotta look that again. We get one last glimpse of his insanity turning under the surface, and there's suddenly a harsh, strange note on the soundtrack, as Travis adjusts his mirror and looks away from his reflection. According to Scorsese, quote, I decided I'd put something on that show that the timer in Travis starts to tick again, the bomb that's about to explode again, end quote. Wow. Wow. Do you think the COVID thing looks? Yeah, we're not gonna, uh, nice, um, mirror. We talk about the stuff in other streams. Gang, let's move on to a lighter movie in Bruges. Let's go to in Bruges. Lighter? Compared to Taxi Driver, lighter. Is it lighter? Last soundtrack by Bernard Herman. Oh, I've got a flag kicking around. Hello, friends. Envious. How are you doing? Hello, Chico. How are you doing? Good. Envious. Welcome. Welcome. Lots of love. Lots of love. Okay, no problem. In Bruges. In Bruges. What a great movie. What a great movie. And it is a feel-good movie. It is a feel-good movie, right? In a weird kind of way. In a weird kind of way. In Bruges, an analogy for Christianity, no? Is it? I don't know. I didn't take it that way at all. I know this movie. Nice. A lighter movie, no? If you consider Assassin's and Kid being killed in the crossfire. Lightest movie of the world you have here, seriously. Much love. Much love. Nice. By the way, nice. 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Okay, in Bruges, gang, what a movie. And what an amazing person this guy in the, this guy was, right? The main character, right? An assassin with a conscience that in his first appearance made a mistake that ended his life, right? Even at the end, he was trying to save the life of the person that killed him. And by the way, I'll ask this because it's still up in the air since we talked about the ending of Taxi Driver. Does he die at the end? My take is yes because he says I tried to stay alive and stuff like this. Bruges was basically predatory for the young assassin, predatory for the young assassin. Absolutely great actor performance for sure. Great performance. Wow, wow, wow. Played by the talented underrated Colin Farrell. Indeed, one of the phenomenal actor, phenomenal actor, purgatory. I was reading that, predatory. Bruges was basically purgatory for the young assassin. Yeah, yeah, that's a good way of looking at it, Elder God. So where did he trust and trust, did he go into heaven or hell? It feels like Colin Farrell really liked the role movie. Yeah, he often plays very bad, but in this movie he is so, does he play really bad? I don't know. Everything I've seen of Colin Farrell, he's been awesome. Like, I believe Colin Farrell played Bullseye in the Daredevil movie. The Daredevil movie sucked, right, with, what's his name? The Dingling. I forget his name. But I believe Colin Farrell was, he played Bullseye, Ben Affleck. Yeah, yeah, Ben Affleck. Not good. Colin Farrell, Daredevil, fantastic, right? Did he die? I'm assuming he died, Elder God. Very bad movie. His last statement was past tense. His last statement was past tense. So I was assuming he died. Daredevil Netflix series, phenomenal. Colin Farrell, blah, blah, blah. I still think that Brandon Gleason was a standout actor in the movie. He was. He was phenomenal. Such a loving character, and a cold-hearted murderer, right? That felt it was just a job, right? Apart from the accidents and the wells, there wasn't much blood, and there will be blood. Oh, nice. There was. There was. Lots of it. Lots of it. There will be blood is the closing statement of the movie with the final scene. We'll talk about that later, but I'll say it now, where Daniel Day-Lewis turns around and Chalantly says, I'm finished. And the music kicks in. Ta-da. Catholic traditionalist, Cheryl. Catholic traditionalist. Yes, he was. My favorite for the character is when he thought to drop the coin to clear the path before the big splat. Yeah. And here's the thing, Cheryl. When he dropped the coin, I was like, oh, he's clearing the path. But I think that was sort of, to a certain degree, a mistake on his part as well. Sort of reflecting his life, right? Because what if people were, went to pick up the coins, right? He dropped them and then there was a pause. And what if some people went to pick up the stuff, right? I sort of took it a little too far, I think. His intention was there, but it was a mistake as well, to a certain degree. Maybe he should have dropped his gun, something else. Bruges is one of the most Catholic places in Europe. Is it? Elder God? I didn't know that. The score was amazing. Really, how? I don't think that that is true. I haven't been to Bruges, so I don't know. Catholic traditionalist, to Chishol and Cheryl, exactly the tension between his character as a killer and his character as a kind, caring individual, interested in redemption was wonderfully portrayed, wonderfully portrayed. What, like, really, all the characters were endearing, including the little, little guy, right? The American dwarf, Mijie, that's called, Farah refers to, right? The little people, right? The little man. Even the prostitutes were endearing. It was incredible. Even their boss had a sense of honor to him, right? There's code. There's a lot of Catholic places in Europe. Chishol, I don't think that it is. Yeah, I don't know, Bruges. Elder God, stop telling us lies. But there was a, by the way, in the movie, it shows it very Catholic stuff. They go to all these Catholic buildings and they see some of the brutality of the depiction of the church and the tortures and the murals are supposed to be representation of the redemption of the church trying to reveal what was done and whatnot. So there was a serious overtone of Catholicism. I don't know if it's Catholicism, but religion, Christianity on there, right? So I think that's one thing that Elder God, what he said, rings true. I put out a beach umbrella here because I knew the sun was going to shine, but I should have put the beach umbrella on this side to reduce the sunshine. I hope the brightness of Chishol is not bugging you guys, gang. I also wonder about the tie to putting coins in the box before lighting a candle. But again, that could be a stretch. Donation. Give it a coin to light a candle, possibly. Yeah, I'd like to, certain movies share all with you. I'd like to try to connect as much as possible if possible, right? Obviously, us human beings are pattern recognition machines, so we go a little bit too far, right? Just a little bit too far. Are you talking to me? There's a Vatican, Italy, Spain and Poland. Yeah. And Poland is very, very Catholic architecture. Yeah. And in the movie, they do show that a lot of architecture and the murals and stuff. Ralph Finis is also a great actor, phenomenal. He did such an amazing job, such an amazing job. It's gothic, neo-gothic. Do you have a motorbike? No. By the way, for the people who like movie soundtracks, the one from in Bruges is definitely a good one to listen to. Yeah. All these four movies had amazing soundtracks, by the way. Amazing. I think that has to be a must for a movie to be amazing. That if there's movies you watch where the soundtrack just doesn't go with the movie, it just takes away from the movie. I have a student that says with the Star Wars movies, even when they're walking is dramatic music. It's ridiculous, right? They visit an art gallery with three paintings of people being punished for their sins. Yeah. And that was a brilliant scene, by the way, where they're showing the murals, the paintings, they're just like, whoa. Sure, a lark. More than once, he looked way too much like Voldemort. I couldn't get past it. I didn't help having Brandon Gleason and Clemens Posse as a major character. I think in Bruges, you can always watch while taxi driver needs a lot more of attention. Yeah. In Bruges, it's something you could watch as a group, right? You can have popcorn and talk and stuff like this. Taxi driver, not the same. Not the same. And then when space audience comes, that requires even more from the viewer. So much more. Envy as Chicho. Absolutely. I love listening to movie soundtracks. Absolutely. Catholic tradition is interesting. The coins that Gleason drop from the top of the tower were likely the same coins that he attempted and failed. That's right. Failed to use to buy admission to the tower earlier in the movie. I didn't make that connection. Catholic tradition is indeed excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Envious. It adds so much to the movie. So much to the movie soundtrack. What's there on it? You should do a discussion stream on Guillermo del Toro films. Pans Lambert is one of my favorites. Ducky MC Quacks on Tuesday. We're going to do a movie stream where we make movie recommendations and we're going to vote on them to see what the next three movies or four movies are going to be that we're going to watch that we're going to discuss in future stream. Okay. Another round of movies after this. Yeah. Padre on Tuesday. We pick more movies and we list them. Okay. So we're doing two movie club streams in this set today and on Tuesday we do more. Harry Potter, Pans Lambert. Great movie by the way. Pans Lambert. The devil's backbone and shape of water would be a cool discussion indeed. Maybe we should watch some Italian horror if we want to continue the soundtrack Italian movies or Italian western spaghetti westerns. Fantastic soundtracks. Right. I could watch Pans Lambert again. Special movie, special movie. It's truly good. A lot of votes for Pans Lambert. Hellboy too is honestly one of my favorites from Del Toro. He did a fantastic job. Yeah. Hellboy too gets too much hate in my opinion. I love the elves. Okay. Okay. I was okay with it but I have to watch it again maybe. I am surprised that devil's backbone is not more well known. Very interesting movie. I love that fat American scene. I actually pissed my pants. Yeah. That was awesome. Where you can't go up there. Why not? Such a good scene. Such a good scene. Makes them so human. Right. So honest. So endearing. Next time I hope I'll know the movies before the stream to really participate. I watched in Bruges but that's a long ago. Envious. We have our stuff. We list them. Right. So Hellboy too was decent. Only Del Toro film. I don't really like in Crimson Peak. I love Italian spaghetti. Gang, should we go to the next movie? Let's go to the next movie. Let's go to the next movie. There will be blood. There will be blood. I love Italian spaghetti wasters. My favorite. My favorite. They gave birth to Clint Eastwood. Right. Pans Lambert is easy. In my top three films of all time. Cool. What other movies die? Martin McDougalmake. I don't know. Ennio Maracón Rest in Peace. Ennio did the soundtracks for them. Great composer and master. Yeah. I only know seven psychopaths. That was quite good. And later on the American cause issues for the characters. Such a classic. There will be blood. Envious. Such a phenomenal movie. I wouldn't saw there will be blood three times in the theaters in one week. Okay. I think it was in four days or five days. Four days I think. I wouldn't saw three times in the theater in four days. Phenomenal. Twice by myself. Once with a couple of friends. One friend maybe. Two friends. There will be blood was entirely too much of a slow burn for me. Powerful but slow. I love the pace on it. It calmed you down and then I think it's got three of the greatest scenes. There's amazing great scenes. But if there's a top 100 greatest scenes in movies, three of them would be in there will be blood. Absolutely brilliant. Can we start with the soundtrack? Insane. Insane. And the lead singer of Radiohead did the soundtrack for that, right? I know it only came out a year but should do mid-summer at some point. There's so much so much little things packed in that movie. I haven't seen it. Oh, that's the one with the psychedelic. When they go to that cult, I saw the trailer for it. It looked phenomenal. It's a Belgian movie or Scandinavian movie. My favorite from DD Daniel Day-Lewis, I think. I haven't seen every Daniel Day-Lewis but I've seen a few. I think there will be blood is his favorite is a masterpiece. It's his greatest performance ever. Absolutely brilliant. Just got super hype. I love this movie. I watched this again last night. I wanted to be the last movie I caught up on and last night was the fifth time I was watching it. I watched it three times in the theater one time a few years ago and last night. Really, not Gang of New York. Gangs of New York, I've seen half of it. I should watch the whole thing. I need to watch the whole thing. I have to stop. But yeah, it didn't compare to There Will Be Blood. Daniel Day-Lewis was fantastic in Gangs of New York. But Gangs of New York was too comedic for me. There Will Be Blood never broke character from what it was. There Will Be Blood didn't... the whole thing is a masterpiece. One of my top 10 greatest movies of all time and I have like a hundred in my top 10 greatest movies of all time was inspired from Opton Sinclair's Oil. Oh, I don't know that. And by the way, for me, There Will Be Blood is a historical piece showing the birth of the evangelical Christian movement and the oil industry, how they're intermingled. So it's very political for me as well. Okay, do you think that the movie implicitly argues that people like the main characters are needed for human development? No, I don't think so for There Will Be Blood. I think Daniel Day-Lewis in this might be the best performance by an actor ever on film. Brother Maple Violet Thine, it's one of the top 10 greatest performances of all time. Without a doubt. Al Pacino on Scarface is another one. My favorite Daniel Day-Lewis film is probably The Name of the Father. What a great movie. The name of the father. So nice. What a great movie. Let's start from the beginning. Let's start from the beginning. My oh my. I too. I believe There Will Be Blood is slightly paying homage to the great giant. Yeah, I think so too. Lark. Slightly, right? Giant was an amazing movie, but the main actor, anyway, Giant is an amazing movie by the way, but There Will Be Blood is raw. Daniel Day-Lewis was quite good in Gangs of New York as well. I got to watch the whole thing. I didn't like the other characters in Gangs of New York, especially the younger guy. These streams need more than two hours now. Paul Thomas Anderson made so many great movies too. Yes, or else three. There Will Be Blood, Greater Gangs of New York. For sure. Even though I haven't watched all of Gangs of New York, There Will Be Blood is and I wouldn't put just one greater, greater, greater, greater, much, much greater than Gangs of New York. Ever seen Bone Tomahawk with Kurt Russell? Yeah. There's another fantastic actor. Love everything. He said, yeah, Bone Tomahawk. Wow, what a movie. Another one is Western would be, I forgot the name of the movie. I forgot. But it's a much deeper movie, very deep. Yeah, Gangs of New York, I didn't find it to be deep at all. I found it very shallow, comedic, right? There Will Be Blood just really, there was just a masterpiece. There I said it, agreed with Lark. Bone Tomahawk haunts me to this day. Really, Avia 27. I fell asleep for a bit, watching it and woke up at the pit where they get captured and they chop that dude in half. Bone Tomahawk was so good. So good. They got the guy, and that was the most violent scene, right? They got the guy splitting the... What the... So good. Such a good movie. Yeah, that scene in the cave is so grim. So grim. Bevo Valens. I don't think that's true. I think There Will Be Blood is kind of a subversion of the typical American myth. We get told about the noble frontiersmen. I think the movie is saying that this sort of expansion of industrial capitalism has always been tied to bloodshed. To be honest, PTA was also writing this at the time of the Iraq war, so the emphasis on oil scene particularly relevant. And the evangelical movement. To me, There Will Be Blood is the birth of the evangelical movement in the United States as well as the oil industry, the ruthless oil industry and how they're intermingled. And how they both feed on the ignorance of society. And they're at times in conflict with each other. Paul Thomas Anderson, a courageous and genius director. Paul Thomas Anderson. Okay, thank you for that. Yes, it says that. I agree with your interpretation. On the other hand, so hang man, hang mansion, I don't know, agrees with Maple Violet. Yes, I agree. Yes, yes, it says that. I agree with your interpretation. On the other hand, it also shows how progressive is made because of how progress is made because of men's like like him. James Dean, yeah, a giant. James Dean passed away, unfortunately. And what an amazing actor halfway through giant. It's a bit of a hot take. But I think that it predicts a dualism. Good take. Toke says to Maple Violet. Cool, cool, cool. Yeah, Leonardo DiCaprio. I like Leonardo DiCaprio to a certain degree. Basketball diaries was amazing. Maple Violet, I agree to an extent, but I think the film makes us question whether this is really progress or just simply expansion. To me, it's greed. It really defined greed in our culture, greed of the people that want to control other people or want to control resources. And I didn't know the history that was written at the same time as the Iraq invasion. It came out in 2007, I believe. There will be blood. So for sure it would have been written a few years before that because it takes a long time to get the scripts approved, right? Industrialism may be better. Lincoln was my favorite. Daniel, I haven't seen Lincoln yet. I gotta watch it. I've heard really good things about it. Just my interpretation. What I meant is progress in the sense of how things develop. Vicious. Haven't seen it yet. I heard he was super into his method acting during Lincoln. Yeah, I've heard really good things about Lincoln. For sure. There will be blood. By the way, gang, check this out. I checked IMDB and there will be blood. The son, the actor, I forget what his name is in the movie. The son only has one movie in credit to him in on IMDB. And I didn't check the Wiki page or anything else. Does anyone know if his son in the movie has acted in any other movie? I was amazed. There was only one. There was one other credit as well, but there was only one that I saw. Elder God, I think the oil took a toll on Daniel's character. Every time he won a victory with the oil, he lost something personal. Yeah, indeed. He just lost his humanity, but he was that way to begin with. When he was sitting there talking with his brother, he said he just wants to be left alone. He doesn't want to talk to any human being. He sees nothing in humanity that attracts him. Right? Envious. That's a good resume. The son got that one movie only and then such a classic, such an amazing movie. And I saw the pastor as a major image of Daniel and could have been a good brother. Does he lie to his son at the end? Or does he tell him the truth? He told him the truth. Bastard from a basket. His son was just a bastard from a basket. Bastard from a basket. By the way, the three greatest scenes in this movie, in my opinion, is when the pastor, the Eli, when he gives his first performance as an evangelical Christian, where he takes the older lady's hand and says arthritis and does his thing. Wow. Wow. Wow. Right? Phenomenal. Right? The second most brilliant scene is Eli and Daniel Day Lewis character. When they bring Daniel Day Lewis's character and before that, when the old man is talking to Daniel Day Lewis, what a dynamic. Right? But when Daniel Day Lewis's character goes to church to be born again. Right? Because it is the birth of the born again movement. Right? To be born again and the interaction between the priest Eli and Daniel Day Lewis. Oh my God. I could watch that again and again and again. And of course, the ending scene of Daniel Day Lewis and Eli, their interaction. Drinking. Come and drink. Your milkshake is so good. So good. As well. Great experience. Great experience. Lark watching that. There will be blood in the theater. I think that makes the film so great. Let's check this out. Great thought. I like that. To Elder God. Major image of Daniel Day Lewis. Maple Violet. I think the thing that makes the film so uncomfortable is that Daniel's misanthropy is kind of sympathetic. Like Paul Dano's character is so detestable that you're kind of on his side. Paul Dano is the preacher. Right? Yeah. You end up hating him. Oh yeah. By the way, gang, here's a question. I'm so glad I remember to ask you this. Is there two brothers? Is there a Paul and an Eli or is there just one and did the preacher play both parts? Were they twins or was it just him playing the part? Okay. What was it? Because at the end, Daniel Day Lewis, when he's talking about it, he says, Paul, I gave him $10,000 and he has three while going. And Eli is like, no, no, no. So I'm really curious about this. I haven't read up on this at all. Right? I learned the word from the character trait in Chicho Streams. Misanthropy. I have to look that up by the way. I don't know what it means. I saw the Room of Blood Theater. The Room of Blood was incredible. It's a drama that felt closer to a thrill at the time. Yeah. I love the scene where Daniel is baptized for the oil, for the oil, Elder God. So damn good. So damn good. Doctor. I'm going to call you Doctor. Dr. Hang, Man, Met. If the end is the truth, there does, then does that imply that the main character was a true devil from the start? I didn't take that. For some reason, I am craving a milkshake. I can't think traditional sense. Me too. I'm going to go get one. Vicious to Maple. That's a great point and plays into the duality of an evangelical and oil baron. Zach, I just found your channel here. Do you always chat movies? Not always, but we have today's movie and on Tuesday, we have movies where we're, what do you call it? We're going to pick the next movies we're going to watch, and then we're going to do another movie stream. Movie Club is something new that we just started. This is our first discussion about movies that we had as homework to watch, to talk about. So many powerful, powerful scenes. So many absurdicons. I think it's just one. Maple, so you think it's just one character? Must be him. So you think there's no twin brother? It's just him. So is he playing both characters? Or does he have dual personality that one is not aware of the other? Or one takes over the other? I thought it was just one guy until he mentions to his father that it was... See, here's the kicker. None of the other characters, Cheryl, in the family, acknowledge the brother, right? He says it was Paul. It was Paul. It was Paul. So is it because he has... What do you call it? When someone has multiple personality disorder where the family is afraid of him? So because no one else, aside from Eli, Daniel Day-Lewis and his son and the other person, but the other person doesn't... He sees them, but we didn't see how he reacts, right? Those three characters are the only ones that acknowledge the existence of Paul. Paul, Daniel played both Paul and Eli. Yeah, he did. Yeah, yeah. And I think Daniel kind of always knows that in the back of his mind, I believe they were twins, and he lied to Eli at the end about Paul's deal. Did he lie at the end? I think he lied, but I have to watch that again. I always forget to keep note of this, because if I remember correctly, Daniel Day-Lewis mentions... Because Paul, when he goes in there, says he wants $500, Daniel Day-Lewis says, I'll give you $600 if you... No, and then Daniel Day-Lewis says, you know, I'll give you $10,000 if there's anything or something like this. And then Paul says, it's $600 now. So was he lying? Did he... I got a feeling he was just pulling his strings, Eli's strings just to poke his wound, right? I see. And the scene when he cast out the devil from the church and it pushing, pushing the viewer out, then he turns back to the church and Daniel is standing in the doorway, the devil. So good, Elder God. I love those scenes, man. I could loop those scenes. Tocke says, Absurdacon, I think he embellished the details of the deal to make Eli feel worse, told Eli that he gave Paul way more than he actually did, just my personal hunch. I think so too, but I always questioned that. Absurdacon, oh shit, I totally missed that. Eli and Paul could have been the same. That's amazing. Yeah, that's amazing, right? That would definitely be in the line with Daniel Day-Lewis's character. Yeah, because he lied to him. He said, yeah, sure, we'll make a deal. Just say you're fake and there is no God or something like this, right? Maple. I think the suspicion that he's playing both parts provides Daniel with the justification for his behavior because it seems he's not as deceptive as Paul Eli. So I guess I'm not entirely sure, but I think Daniel is convinced that it's one person. I don't know. I don't know, Cheryl Chico. So the father is aware that he's got a major psychological issue, but never does anything about it. It fits, but changes a lot of my perception. Oh no, it looks like I'll have to watch it again. That's Cheryl, and that is the reason why I went to see it in the theater. Aside from amazing soundtrack, amazing acting, amazing movie, amazing times, amazing release, right? Iraq war was going on, Bush Jr. was in power. It was an amazing time, right? But one of the reasons I went and saw it so many times, three times back to back was because I wasn't sure. I was like, wait a second. I did the same thing, by the way, with existence and the matrix, right? Matrix, you could figure out easier than there will be blood. Existence was on the same difficulty level to figure out what was going on when the turn happened as there will be blood. Really, I watched it and I still am not 100% sure. Paul and Eli were originally cast as separate actors and were not originally brothers in the movie. Paul Dano was later cast to play both characters and they were written as brothers. Were they? Catherine? Maybe the director decided halfway through the cutting to cut out all the pieces that really solidified that notion that there were two different individuals and they introduced the question, right? Oh, hell yeah. I love existence. Yeah, Maple Violet. I love existence. I love it. And existence came out at the same time as matrix and everybody was really going on matrix but I consider existence to be on the same level as matrix and I like that film and I like that the film is about greed and power and how it can drive one mad. Yeah, this shows how great this movie is. It works on so many levels, on so many levels. Elder God, I love the small details as well. Like Paul proves to Daniel that there is oil on the land by saying no wheat grows there and when Daniel arrives, he is offered some food and he asks for bread. Ah, I didn't catch that one. Elder God, I love the part when they're sitting at the dinner table where Daniel Day-Lewis holds the father's hand and he goes, my son, you know, he's not well and stuff like this, holds the father's hand and Paul is sitting there at the end of the corner and Daniel Day-Lewis is talking about quail and then Paul says, what about the oil? Daniel Day-Lewis, he looks like he's so mad, so angry that he was willing to reach over the table and just choke him, right? New follower, great goatee and look forward to watching your channel. Thank you very much for the follow. Ropi, how do you pronounce your name? Ropi. All our streams are not movies. We go all over the place, so I hope you appreciate what we do. Maple Violet, have you seen the video drama? Yeah, for sure. It's another Kronenberg that's very similar to it. Yeah, video drama is amazing. Whoa, such a great movie, especially a period piece when it came out. Peachtree can get you killed. Peachtree can get you killed. Peachtree can get you killed. Elder God's laughing. Fun. Oh my god, we're into two hours, gang. We're into two hours. Let's take it down. Let's take it down. Great discussion. Great discussion. I love this and by the way, if you appreciate this movie stream, thank you Elder God because he's the one that recommended we do these. So Elder God, thank you for recommending a movie club stream. I think this is going to be a pretty regular repertoire for us to do because there's so many amazing movies to watch and some of us know some amazing ones that others don't and vice versa and everything, right? The milkshake by the fake brother. The mistake by the fake brother. Oh, I'm missing it, Elder God. The Peachtree dance. The Peachtree dance, I don't know. However, you'd like to pronounce it. I don't mind, but the true pronunciation is rope. The East science. Okay, okay, rope. Welcome to our channel and our live streams. Gang, let's call this stream. Tomorrow we do a comic book reading, 11 a.m. PDT, my time, same time as we started today. Okay, and we get to decide what we're going to watch. On Monday, I believe we're doing a relationship stream and on Tuesday, we're doing movie club stream again where we get to recommend the movie, vote on it and decide what to watch, what the next movies are we're going to watch. It's hard to spot as it links into a diary entry he read earlier. Oh, Elder God, I got to figure that one out. Enjoy the new movie stream. Great pics, great pics, great pics. Gang, thank you for being here. Mods, thank you for taking care of business. Thank you for watching over things. Elder God, thank you for recommending this. Everybody, thank you for the feedbacks. Catholic traditionists, thank you for giving us the background on some of this stuff. It gives us a perspective on what's going on. Thank you about the info regarding the soundtracks and whatnot. 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