 Hello and welcome to MIP TV and with us today of course is the fab Bob Cook and he's talking about yet more of his favourite books. Bob's a bit of a polymath I think is the word. If you could speak more languages you'd be a polyglots wouldn't you? So a polymath. And we've got a real cracker here today haven't we? One of my favourite theories Bob do you want to introduce the book? Yeah the title of this book is Transaction Analysis Psychotherapy An Integrated Approach by Petrusca Clarkson. Yes very very famous sadly departed theorist who revolutionised to some extent and rewrote the the idea of what relationships in psychotherapy are. Yeah she wrote that famous book about the different stages of relationships which I think you're alluding to. She wrote many many, oh gosh I don't know how many psychotaping books. She was a genius and a tragic figure in many ways. She was one of my first trainers. Oh wow. In Metanoor Psychophobic Training Institute in 1986. Petrusca Clarkson, Sue Fish and I remember in 1985 it was a very hot summer's day and it was in July and I'd applied to start my psychotherapy training at Metanoor Psychotherapy Training Institute and I got untrained, went all the way up to Ealing and I found this huge big house knocked on the door and this very larger than life character came out in a big robe like she'd just come from a Turkish banquet. And she said I'm Petrusca Clarkson you must be Bob Cook. You want to come on my TA training course? I said yes. She says that's great. See you next week. I said would you be still coming for a cup of tea? I've read your CV. You'll be perfect with a course. Have a cup of Turkish tea and we'll talk about the weather a bit and off you can go. So I went in and had a cup of tea with her in a very splendid house. She said how that I would be great. I'm a man. She thought that was great because she wanted male in psychotherapy land. And except me on the course I went off again and four or five months later started training with her Sufe. She was a partner and Maria Gilbert was also another famous person. And I got in with her well. I mean tragically she died committed suicide. I think it was in 2000. I'm not quite sure. Lovely woman and also as most geniuses are in many ways you had her fragilities. Yes. Yes. There's a fine line isn't there Bob? When someone's a genius that they sometimes walk. Yeah, very fine line. But I really liked her and I would say she had a great loss to the psychotherapy community. Yeah, for sure. For sure. And she was remembered quite a lot. You know the BACP did something UK, excuse me, UK, UK CP and Friday and slipped there. And yes, she was she was sorely missed I think because I say she's a genius. Yeah, she was a real sort of figure in the TA world and actually a really big figure in the Gestalt world. Yes. She wrote avidly in both those disciplines and very much a large part of her life. I remember switching on the television. I don't know when this was. This was about like long after I qualified. I don't know where she was particularly. But anyway, I switched on and there was this sort of commentator called Kilroy. He ran a show called the Kilroy show. Oh, yes. I don't know what he was. Anyway, he introduced some of the figures in different psychotherapeutic world and XXX and introduced Patricia Clarkson and Patricia Clarkson, who was still very interested in Tia and Gestalt, decided that she wanted to be a sex therapist and she started off her new practice in sex therapy. And she was being interviewed talking about how she did sex therapy and she took him into a big sort of room that she worked on with all the various objects that she worked with. I'll take a bit further, but it was an amazing discussion of how she worked with people's sexual dysfunction. Yes, yes. Very interesting. Devices of adult's interest. Yeah, so large in life. So this book, getting back to this book, that's a bit about her. I really like this book, because it goes through the principles of Tia, but what it really does do is outline the use of a mini case study, how you would write up theoretically and practically how you do Tia. So part of qualifying to be a certified transactor analyst is to write a case study about what you do and how you do it. And that's what she did. She wrote a case study, talked about how you do it and what you do it. And it's a very good case study not only to understand transaction analysis practice, but for students to know how to write a case study. Right. Well, you know, I mean, a lot of the books are used to help students write, do their exams, see Tia as it is in Tia. And I think what I've heard there is her work still is relevant today in terms of writing case studies. Yeah. Yeah. And it goes through a treatment plan, how to follow treatment plan, and also how she illustrates through the case study, the psychotherapy she does, which fits into the different segments of the case study. And then she talks about it theoretically. And a marvelous read, as I said, not only to understand the nuances of psychotherapy from a transaction analysis perspective, but how to write a Tia case study. And for the first part of your exam in this Tia world, that's what you need to do. And it's a book I read as a student helped me a lot in my exams. It's a very clear book. It's a very accessible book. And the case study that she wrote was very alive and interesting. And I'd recommend any students going towards their exams to buy this book, if it's only to look at how to do a case study for your exams. But it's much more than that. It's a great in-depth book. It talks a lot about the culture of Tia, the history of Tia. It's a very in-depth book. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like a real find and one that's definitely not to be missed, certainly if you're a student. Well, you know, I've read some of Clarkson's work and I'm enamored with the work she did, especially the five relationship model, which just makes so much sense. I've read it. They just made so much sense. So for those of you who want to inspect the book, maybe buy it. Of course, Bob doesn't do this for profit. He's not being sponsored by the publishers or the departed author. But if you go into the comments bar below, into the bar below, put a link in and you'll be able to click on it and see the book. And if you want to do some more investigation on it. Yeah. Just to show Roy how prestigious she is and how well thought of she is, I think there would be very few practitioners of psychotherapy who wouldn't know the name Patricia Clarkson. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, on that note, Bob, and with that kind of ringing endorsement, you trained with her and tell a great story, I have to say, about her Turkish robes and her Turkish tea. Thank you so much. Thank you.