 We can get started when Dave says so. Now that we've figured out the train system. Together. All right, good. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Today is September 13th, and we're gonna get started with our Massachusetts Gaming Commission Agenda Setting Meeting. Gonna do our roll call because we're holding the meeting virtually. Good morning, Commissioner O'Brien. Good morning, I'm here. Morning. Good morning, Commissioner Hill. Good morning, I'm here. Good morning. Good morning, Commissioner Skinner. Good morning. And good morning, Commissioner Maynard. Good morning, I'm here. Okay, we'll get started. Today is public meeting 152 for Agenda Setting, and we have some minutes, Commissioner Maynard. Thank you, Madam Chair. I move that the commission improve the minutes from the August 30th, 2023 Agenda Setting Meeting that are included in the commissioner's packet subject to any necessary corrections for typographical errors or other non-material matters. Second. Thank you. Any questions or edits, commissioners? Okay, Commissioner O'Brien. Aye. Commissioner Hill. Aye. Commissioner Skinner. Aye. Commissioner Maynard. Aye. And I vote yes, five-zero. Thanks, Commissioner Maynard. And we'll get us going on the agenda planning and we have our upcoming meeting schedule first on this list. And you'll see it's right through November 30th. We're trying to stick to an every two-week cadence, but we're nimble always. And Grace wants for me to note that we had been thinking of a Springfield meeting date for October 19th, but there were some scheduling challenges for venue. And so the proposed date is November 2nd. And then I think the question, Grace, that's important for you and Mills as you're thinking about the setup, would participants have to participate in person if we do a hybrid, it complicates things somewhat, right? Grace, you can chime in here. Yeah, not complicate so much as we would just need to know when we contract with them if we would be using a hybrid setup versus an all-in-person where we would just be streaming live. So we can definitely do it either way, but we wouldn't be able to switch to a hybrid at the last minute. We would need to know that when contracting. Okay. So commissioners, I think there's an additional cost, Grace, I don't know if you have that, but there's an additional cost because it's a little bit of a complexity, but your point is that they can certainly accommodate it. They can absolutely accommodate it. There will be an additional cost. We don't have that information yet for doing a hybrid participation. Should we reserve that option commissioners in case we end up having some business that demands the hybrid because they can't get to Springfield or should we make it on-person only? I think my only caveat to, I would think we would want to reserve the right just in case one or more of us all of a sudden has a COVID got to stay home situation where we can participate remotely. Knock on wood, that doesn't happen, but you never know. Commissioner Hill. I was thinking the exact same thing only because of what I've been seeing the last couple of weeks with friends and neighbors. You know, yes. Okay. That sounds like probably makes good sense then, Grace, either illness or even if it turns out that we need to do some business and somebody couldn't get in. So, all right. Perfect. But the goal is for it to be in-person. We were, many of us were out in Springfield and that was really nice, but we'll go out and do a good full business meeting and we'll be working on developing the agenda. And today will be one of those days where if we think about something that's Springfield related, then and it can wait to November 2nd, that might be ideal. Okay. So now for September 21st, next Thursday, we've got a full agenda. Todd, you'll have an administrative update. Can I, right now, it's a little bit, I think that we can reserve a quick administrative update. Do you have any news for us on the space today? The, it's coming together. There's obviously people in there today could give a more up-to-date update, but it's coming together. The painting and whatnot has been completed, I understand. I think the flooring is gonna be completed this week and movers are supposed to be coming in on either Monday or Tuesday to start to move things back. So there is a possibility that by the end of next week or certainly the beginning of the following week that we will invite the full team back into the Boston office. So I have a question, Todd, because I understand and I've seen it myself that there are items here, they're in everywhere and they weren't necessarily put in any place in particular. And I know the meeting room is quite, Jordan, I think, Commissioner Maynard, you probably have a better, you took to peek at that yesterday, I think. Can we be helpful with the movers? I know Mary Ann is of course in charge of this, but I'm happy to volunteer and I think Commissioner Maynard and I talk informally that we would go and help on that effort because I don't know how you're gonna direct everything around, just wondering. Yeah, no, I appreciate that. We will certainly reach out. We're trying to, we're developing a plan of course and we wanna make sure people are not lifting heavy items throughout the office for a variety of reasons, but if we're talking about moving certain supplies, then any assistance may be helpful. Yeah. Madam Chair, Todd, really what I was thinking and I was talking to a couple of folks is just making sure that we can kind of direct, a lot of people don't know where things are supposed to go even, and how did it get from here to there and where does it go back? And I was just telling the chair, I said, I'm happy to come in and I'm happy to do some lifting, but I'm also happy just to say, hey, wait a minute, where was he supposed to be in the first place? Cause there was such a, it looks like a mad rush to make sure everything was dry and just try to get it back to where it goes. Absolutely. No, our office manager, Mary and Julie is on the case. We, the game plan is to make sure that by the time everyone is back in the office, that everything is back exactly where it needs to be. All the technology is ready to go. Copy machines up and running, supply rooms, stock, kitchens ready to roll and people have whatever they need to do their job. So that is the game plan, but certainly there may be a need for some assistance and I appreciate that. And we will certainly likely take you up on that in some form or fashion. So thank you. I think Mary and good morning. Good morning. When I happened to speak with Commissioner Maynard as I was leaving the office, I guess it was on Tuesday and he was there going in. It occurred to us that we know everything's in your capable hands, but we are happy to be helpful. And if it means bringing in food and making a bit of a party, we are happy to do that because office has gone through a lot. And I know that you wanna make it a special place, Todd, you had mentioned that to me when it gets back. So I at least wanted to offer that. And maybe there'd be other members of the team who would like to do the same thing. So just wanted to mention that. Okay, thank you. Good. The timing is you're thinking and the end of September beginning of October? Well, the movies are expected on Monday, the 18th. So once everything gets back to place on the 18th, then Tuesday and Wednesday, hopefully we'll have everything set back up and we'll be ready to go. Great. Hopefully. So that's next week. There is a little, I know Todd, you mentioned about the copy machines, we're gonna have to have Xerox and Canon come in because they're under lease and they were wet. So they're gonna have to, when they come in, they're gonna have to test them to make sure that they're up and running. So that might take a little bit, getting them in to test the machines and getting them reset to make sure that they're fine. That's not bad, Mary Ann. In terms of technology, it's pretty good. Yeah, yeah. Hopefully they'll come in quickly and we could be all set, but there is other copy is up and running so that's not a problem too. Excellent. Thank you for that update. I know it's a little bit off record, but it's administrative and I know folks are going in and checking things out and want to be helpful, Mary Ann. So thank you. You're welcome. Okay. Mary Ann, I like your background. This looks blue. Mary Ann and I have shared COVID background stories quite a bit, so. All right. Then we're moving on for administrative updates. Is there anything that you want in particular commissioners from Todd next week on the 21st? Todd, anything you want to plan on offering up? I don't have anything specific right now, a couple of thoughts, but I need to coordinate with other folks before I kind of pledge that for next week, but I will be in touch. Okay. Minutes. Commissioner Maynard and Trudy, you'll have some? Yes. I'll have some minutes ready. I don't have any pending, but we will have some ready. That's good. And then legislative update. Grace and Commissioner Hill is nodding his hat. They're getting ready to go back into session. So we'll see if they do any overrides or any amendments to what was sent back. So we'd like to just have it on there just in case. Commissioner Hill, can you remind me or maybe other commissioners too? I think we mentioned in public, I was speaking with Nils on a different subject matter today. Did we talk about, I think we've talked about sending something to the legislature generally on some quote unquote, more housekeeping type things, but also maybe addressing things that were supposed to be filing like the annual stuff, but also horse racing generally and maybe charitable gaming. Could we, should we be doing a packet like that? And I'm turning to you, Commissioner Hill, because you know... I think it's appropriate, but I think it's not appropriate at this time because I think we need to sit down and figure out exactly what it is we wanna send. Yeah. As I've talked to some of our directors, there's a lot of food for thought in what might go into that package. So do we have a timing on that though, which would be ideal? If we were gonna submit something and it may not be... I'd like to do something by November. Okay, Todd, that's something with the legal team, of course, and each of your directors, I know probably some of them have ideas and maybe we can't act on all of them. Any housekeeping wish list things for legislative matters, that would be great. I'd like to think now that this has been up since 23K, it's about 10 years old now, that the commission has a good overview of what's worked, what hasn't worked, and what we could use for legislative help to make things run smoother. Right. Yeah, maybe it's not everything, but maybe it's the top five, something like that, right? And of course, process-wise, I would ask, and I know with open meeting, I can't talk to my fellow commissioners about this, but is there an opportunity where we can all meet and talk about this publicly of what things we would like to see in there? Because I don't wanna make any mistakes with the open meeting, while I would talk to my fellow commissioners about this, because it's important, actually. So I think it might, the way if I had a suggestion on how to start is maybe meet with Grace and Mills and Todd in both caps, his both caps that he's wearing, and maybe Todd's senior meeting could find out from the directors who they had top ideas, and then kind of come up with a list and a general summary of what it's about, and then we bring it in public, right? And then make it into some kind of a filing, even if it's just to, even if it doesn't, I know we should always have legislative language too. We may or may not have that for every item, right? That would be good, Brad, because we may have missed those opportunities, sometimes not being really aware of best timing. So we're looking at your expertise. Thanks, okay? Thank you. Thank you. Regs, we've got a couple for the 21st. Caitlin, Todd. So we've been working on the two regs that we spoke about in the last agenda setting, but they're not gonna be ready for the 21st. So if possible, we'd like to move those out to the October 19th meeting. And Carrie, there were two other regs, right? That we need on the, or not on the 21st, sorry. Yeah, not until we need to. Okay. October 19th, Grace, do you know the two, or do you want them to go over it? We don't have numbers for them yet. I can get with Grace on the back end, but they don't have numbers yet. We do have the two others, which I can give you now or wait until we get to the 19th. Okay. All right. Item number five then. Good morning. Morning. We will have a branding waiver request from DraftKings. This is on their corporate logos at the stadiums. And then the 90-day approval stuff, which will be Christian as well as myself. We also will have the additional approval of another vendor to be reviewing these 90-day requests. That will be Christian as well. It'd be like bulletproof. We approve them. Is this, I forget the name of the vendor exactly, but that will all be submitted to Grace as well. So the commission has to act on that. Yeah. They have to approve them as a vendor. Yeah. So the vendor approval and then the waiver request. Yes. And then the DraftKings, they have a logo question. Correct? Yes. 21 plus. Yes. Then we have two more items. Andrew. Yes. So two other items that will lead your vote on the 21st is a house rules update and a new event petition. A new event. A new event. Commissioner said you're curious. Oh, DraftKings submitted it. Correct. Curious commissioners? I am, but it reminded me of something else that I think you and I spoke about that. I don't know if you were going to bring it up, but maybe circling back on Pickleball. Pickleball. Pickleball. And the article that came out in terms of the players positions. So Commissioner O'Brien, I did have a question about it. And I had the opportunity to speak with Mills a little bit. One thing that I hadn't appreciated were that there were set rules that we didn't probably review, but they do get submitted to you, right? Andrew, for our new event. Yeah, we did get to a USA official rulebook. So from my perspective, my question may have been answered, Commissioner O'Brien, but you should raise yours and then we can respond. Mine was just acknowledging the article that it said it was bringing up things that may or may not have been considered by us. So I just wanted to make sure everyone had seen it. All the other commissioners had seen it. And we had an opportunity to ask any questions that we might have. That was a Boston Globe article, I think August 25th. Mills, if my memory is right, or the 23rd, 25th. And that was. Yes, that's correct by Michael Silverman. I believe David included it in clips, but I'll go back and double-check and make sure that all commissioners have seen the article just right now. Right. And could you also circulate with that? You sent a copy of the House rules. I mean, not the House rules, the rules of the game. USA Pickleball, yes. Andrew shared those with me, and I can make sure that that link is included in the email sent to the commissioners. Right. And it addressed some of the issues that the players raised in that article, Commissioner O'Brien. Oh, great. OK. And then we can, if you have more questions, we can decide if we need to bring it forward. Do you, is it OK to share with the new event as this time? I'll leave you with suspense. The new event petition submitted by DraftKings is a revisit of Highline, World Highline League. Yes. This is different from the last Highline in the sense that it's World Highline League that is now approved in 10 jurisdictions. And I'll go over those next Thursday. Another difference is it is submitted by one of our operators, one of our licensees, instead of US integrity this time around. Yeah. Suspense. Taking care. OK. All right. So busy, busy day for sports wagering. Then we come to Chief Laney. Thank you, Madam Chair, commissioners. MGM quarterly report, they have asked to defer that. Apparently with their computer situation that they have been dealing with the last couple of days, they don't have access to all of the right information and so on, and getting it to us in a timely fashion looks like it might be difficult. I was thinking, since we're already close to the end of the third quarter, what we might do, and if we're talking about going out to Springfield on the 2nd of November, we could maybe have them do their second and third quarter reports out in Springfield to do them together. Second, third. Yeah. I think that makes great sense. What do you think, commissioners? Is that OK in terms of your processes, Joe? Yeah. It's no big deal. Perfect time for the perfect thing. OK, so let's plan on that then. OK. And then the CMF modifications, we are ready to go on that. We will have for you our policy question memo and a draft of a distribution formula. I'll be sending drafts of those memos out to the commissioners tonight because we have some 2x2 set up on those for tomorrow and Friday. And final copies will probably go out either end of the day tomorrow or probably by noon on Friday at the latest. Any questions for Joe or anything you need commissioners for on the CMF modifications? We're getting close to a decision on that. OK. All right. I don't know if I see him. Well, there you. Good morning. Good morning. So I can keep this on, but I may want to push it just because I'm dealing with a few other things at this moment that have taken my attention away from completing this closeout report. My team's working on it. But I would like until tomorrow, because if I can get it done tonight and I can get everything done, I'd love to do it on the 21st. If I can't get it done tonight, I don't want to push it into early next week and rush the package on the commissioners either. You don't have the appropriate time to review the information in there. It's all good preliminarily speaking. It looks like we're rolling forward quite a bit of money again, just like in previous years, on the spending from our divisions, which is a good thing. I just want to have the time to pull together comprehensive memo like I've done in the past. So what I'm hearing is that you feel pressed for time, but ideally you'd like to do it for the 21st or should we just go with October 2nd? Ideally, I'd like to do it for the 21st, because then I'm within that timeline that I set for myself for getting it done within a couple of weeks after the closeout and I track myself on those things. But if I continue to get pressed on these other matters, I just won't have the time to pull together a thorough memo. Yeah, so commissioners, it's fine. If Derek just coordinates with Grace, either date, right? Okay. Thank you. That'd be great. Thanks. Good morning, Dr. Leibow. Good morning. How are the verses doing? You've had some disruptions in the race schedule with all this weather. Right, right. They're doing fine. On Monday, we delayed post for half an hour to let them get the track ready. It wasn't quite ready after the storms they had had the night before. They got it nice and good and race the first race and then they were out on the track for the second race and they got another huge storm. So they pulled everybody off the track for safety reasons and it kept raining and after a little while it was just determined that the track was not gonna be able to be pulled back in good shape in time. And we were expecting continued raining on and off so we just ended up canceling. So that was one of the things I wanted to bring up is if you want me to just mention that I use the delegation of authority on the 921 meeting. Yeah. And then if we could move Steve O'Toole's items off the agenda for the 21st, it's not quite ready. We'd like to put it back on the 10-2 meeting. That happens to be like the one day out of the entire year probably that Chad is not available and he usually presents those items but we talked about it and he will have the documents ready to go well before that. And if commissioners, you get them to the commissioners if they had any questions, talk to him ahead of time and then I could go ahead and present them on the second and if something came up that we absolutely needed chat for maybe continue it, it's up to you all how you wanna proceed. I'd prefer not to let it go past the second because the next meeting's not I think until the 19th. So that would be a month from now or something. I think we're good to go ahead and have you present Chad's work. It's always well done commissioners. Do you feel comfortable with that? And then if there's something that comes up in the meeting, like you said, we could always we needed to hold a quick meeting on it. We would do that Alex to get your work done, okay? Thank you. All right, so we're gonna take it off from the 21st roll it over to the 2nd of October, okay? Before the executive session minutes review for all commissioners, those have to be passed in executive session. Okay. So we'll have those those will be ready. I think they're all ready now, right Grace? There are two multiple sets of executive session minutes that fall into two categories for that. So the first being the July meetings on the interim executive director's contract negotiations. So that will be the first section which A and K will be handling. The second section of executive session meetings will be from the legal team as they work through some of our backlog on executive session minutes from last year. And I'm not sure if Judy has dates for those yet, but they're working on those minutes from previous executive sessions. So commissioner Maynard, are you up to date on all that? So I am up to date, but I wanna point out that commissioner Hill actually was closing out those executive session minutes. And then we're going to be presented together, but he has been reviewing those. The second set or the first set? Both first sets were under his... Okay, he was still... Commissioner Hill, are you all set then? Okay. Everyone's recognized. Thanks. Takes a team. Okay. So we'll have two sets and we'll just have that set out in the executive session, but back in the public, or does that... No, the interim director compensation discussion will also be in the second session. Yes. And I know, I think Derek, if you're still on, you were going to maybe work with Dave Maltrow to have some... Yes, we will have... Some analysis for us, yeah. Brief analysis of what has been done in the past and rationale for it. Okay. Any questions on those two executive sessions? You know, of course we have to vote in to go into them, but they're anticipated. Okay. Anything else for September 21st? Dr. Lightbaum. Well, you're on mute. I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry about that. If we could add the standard bread of owners of Massachusetts request to be recognized as the group representing the breeders. It's standard operating procedure we do every year and should be pretty quick, but they have their first races at the end of September, so it is timely. Okay. And then I think we also rolled over marks, proposed changes to the research agenda from September 7th, right Grace? So I don't know if Dr. Ella... Hello, Mark. Good morning. Yes, we should be prepared for that. And I apologize for pulling that from the last agenda. There was just, there was a change to it that I felt like I wanted to run by commissioners in advance that there's an implication to one change that would require us a change to one of our responsible gaming programs. So in advance of that, let me just connect and brief commissioners on that. Mark, I'm just gonna remind you that, that kind of briefing can take place. I'm not sure, I'm not sure why it needs to be done individually, so I'm just wondering about that. I'm happy to elaborate. It would, the current setup of play my way is a soft stop, meaning that an individual can reach their set budget and continue to gamble. One of the proposed changes to the research agenda would be to explore a hard stop versus hard stop, meaning that when somebody reaches their limit that they wouldn't be able to continue to gamble, much like it is with our sports wagering operators when they set a budget. So the proposed study would be a pilot project exploring the difference in effectiveness with a hard stop compared to a soft stop. And that's not insignificant. The commission deliberated on this several years ago to determine that we wanted to move forward with a hard stop. So I wanted to just make sure that commissioners were aware that this change or this proposed study and pilot of a hard stop is a change to deliberations back in 2014 or 15. So that's really, that's important that we know because I think it also means that the discussion might be more substantive than what we would anticipate just for even time purposes. Commissioner O'Brien, you and I weren't there for that either. It might make sense for us to get all of us have the advantage of the meeting. And if they made that vote and to understand what the philosophy was for that then, and then we hear, hey, things have evolved and changed and you may have some different insights. But I think that that could very nicely be part of your discussion for this research agenda modification. It just may be more deeper than what you would expect it is what you're saying. Yeah, and I guess my intention of speaking with commissioners beforehand was I didn't want it there to be any surprises that this is more than a change to the research agenda. So that was really my only point. Yeah, so this is perfect. No surprises. I appreciate that. So this is good commissioners, do you have questions on that and what you would want for, in addition to what he expected to update us on anything on that particular subject matter? Chair, I just like to understand if the information is available at this early stage, what the pilot would look like. Is that part of the study or is it part of the plan? It would be integrated into the description of the study of what that pilot project would look like. And commissioners would be, patrons would be provided an option to enroll and play my way. And once if they're interested in rolling and play my way, it would provide a further option of a hard stop versus a stop stop. So it's not, there's no, it still provides an option for patrons to participate or not participate. And it's a study on it. So we wouldn't have to make a decision on it for the study on it. We'd make a decision around investing a study on it. Got it? Correct. Commissioner O'Brien, you thinking? No, okay. Commissioner Hill, I just wondered if you had any thoughts? How's that? Commissioner Hill, how's that? Okay. Commissioner Hill? I've given your assignment, Madam Chair, to responsible gaming. I've had a brief conversation with Mark and I think it's going to be very important for everyone to hear what he has to say. To do, I'm sorry, the last part? To hear what he has to say and to offer. And so it's not, there's no executive session need. It's just, you were just avoiding a surprise. So all right, then I think we get informed, right? I think that's interesting Mark. Thank you. All right, so we'll just add, make sure we have the right amount of time. I'll have you and Grace coordinate that. Okay, and then anything else besides those two items to add for the 21st? Okay. Moving on to October 2nd. We've got a couple that we just rolled over. Actually one, right? That would be possibly the budget, Derek's item. Administrative update, we'll keep that on. Minutes, we'll keep that on. Legislative update. You may even have more information by October 2nd, perhaps, right? So we'll keep that on. Regulations. Kerry. We do not have any regulations for October 2nd. Okay. Sports wagering, anticipation yet? Yes. Any items in particular? Not yet. Okay. All right. Keep that on. But we do have good morning, Councilor Hall and Interim Director. Hall? Good morning. I think you would be all ready for this. Are you still feeling that way, Heather? Yeah, with respect to item number six, Chair? Yes, please. Yes, that is our plan. Okay, any questions on that? Commissioner is on, this is on the ESPN deal. Okay, I'll set. Thanks, Heather. And then we have an item seven. We've got down the process. I think that we need to, commissioners confirm our expectations around this hiring process for the so-called permanent IEB director. So we'd want to think about process. I think we probably would want Mina's expertise. We are going to pursue a screening committee approach. We'd want to confirm that. And then whether or not we'd want to have any kind of a search firm here or not that got touched upon the other day, I think it deserves its own discussion and how you want to approach this hiring process. Commissioners, thoughts? All of that? It'll be a great discussion on October 2nd. Yeah, and then if we need, we can make the decisions the following meeting. If we need it. Okay, anything else? I'm going to just check in with you, Commissioner Skinner. I'll settle on that. Nope, that sounds appropriate. Thank you. Okay, great. Commissioner Maynard, Commissioner Bryan, I'll set. Okay, anything else, team for October 2nd? All right, gotcha. Madam Chair, I'm going to need a little bit of time. We have to revoke each year our LCMAC members. Oh yeah. And so we'll need to do that on the second. And it looks like we will have a new member from West, but we'll have more details to come. Anything else? Okay, before we go for under review and before we go into any other dates, great. We just should remind everybody here in the public that we are holding the round table on the data privacy regulation, September 18th, right, Tuesday? September 19th, Tuesday. I want to do that, don't I? Tuesday the 19th between 10 and noon. And we'll be sending out a communication. Thank you, Commissioner Maynard and all who've helped on the production of Thinking About Props. And it's going to be, I think a rigorous discussion so that's on Tuesday. And then of course we have the 21st meeting, regular public meeting. Okay, so we'll go to under review, ILAB. Yeah, that's still under review. Okay, Commissioner O'Brien. I want to, again, just so we can clarify the two kind of call one a working group and the other one, this idea of a committee. You want to go ahead, Commissioner O'Brien? Right, so there's been the longstanding compliance working group that's got a representative of every division in the office. This topic that's on here under review is the idea of creating a much smaller compliance committee that would have a much more narrow focus as opposed to the broader group in terms of discussing more generalities. Right, and at some point that should come up because there are some issues that arise with the formation of a committee like that. And so we would, okay. Keep it under review for now, Commissioner O'Brien. For now, yeah. And then if I could just, you know, I know it was such a busy time when we were standing up towards wagering. I know too that really excellent work was done with the working group. And I want to thank Commissioner Skinner and Commissioner O'Brien for working on, in that working group. And as you, as we figure out, part of really the core task is the assessment of risk. That's so important for the agency, the executive director's work, and then of course also we have obligations to inform other entities through our internal control plans. So thanks for that work. And I bet Todd, in your busy schedule, you might want to convene that meeting, I mean that working group before the years. And Commissioner O'Brien knows better about that scheduling than I do. So I'll let you guys figure that out when it works for all the players. Okay. Thanks. Commissioner Skinner and Joe Delaney. This is the compliance update on the community agreements. And I know it's a big project, so. Yeah, it's in process, so we're still working on it. Okay, great. Thank you. And then item number four, the 98 audit, we can take that off, right? It won't be continuing. Okay. And then we have Dr. Andrews, I thought I had skipped. Dr. Andrews, I don't know if she's here, but Director Van Olynden, the economic impact. Oh, there she is. Hello, yes. There you are. Sorry, Bonnie, there you are. No worries, those are still under review. Okay, okay. Director Ban, that restriction by operator, I don't know if you and Andrew are working on that. I'm trying to remember exactly what that issue is. Commissioner, can you help me out? That's my issue, Chair, that I raised with them. That's something that I think is worthwhile for the commission to really understand in the sports wagering world, where betters are limited in the number and amount of wagers that they can place. Yes, I'm recalling now. Thank you, Commissioner Skinner. So that's probably under review. That's a pretty, that's all. Sorry. We should have that already by mid-October. Okay, good. Sorry, my phone went off. Okay, but that's basically to explain the general operations and those decisions. Okay, thank you. Yes, thank you. Okay, thanks, Commissioner Skinner. All right, we've got Heather again. This is an item that I know is ongoing. Getting closer, cash display drain. It is, Chair. Thank you. It's my understanding that there's gonna be a demo for the commission toward the end of October and I'll defer to Burke if I'm incorrect about that. But it is ongoing. I know that there are different teams working on it with Kerry on the lead. So, and obviously you're coordinating with Burke as well and Kathleen from the CEC side. So it's ongoing. Good morning, Burke. Thank you, Heather. Yes, Heather covered a lot of it. I think 924, Kathleen, Kerry and a smaller working group is gonna meet with PPC, Christian and Katrina's group and we're gonna go over everything. And then the plan still is for 1024 for presentation to the full commission. We've been doing a lot of work in the working group yet. Kerry has some good questions that we're working on. So we're moving forward with that. Did you say, did you just say a date that you'd be presenting to us? Oh, no, I'm sorry. PPC, Penn would like to present to the commission similar to what they did a couple, I guess it's almost a couple of years back now. The cashless wagering process out at Plain Ridge. Out at Plain Ridge. Oh, out at Plain Ridge, yeah. Give a demonstration, give a demonstration again. So the internal working, you folks need, you're gonna get a presentation first, right? Your whole, did you say 1024 for that, Burke? Or did I not hear correctly? They're both on the 24th, it's 924 and 1024. 924 is a smaller group of Kathleen, Kerry, myself, Andrew. And so a good Christian. And then we're gonna go over some of the processes there. We basically just wanted to see what's the new stuff, what's the new updated things that are going on with that. And then start the plan for the October 24th, which would be tentatively a plan to present to the full commission a demonstration of how it works again. At PPC. Yes, it is. Okay, so first off, is that a date that we've reserved Grace and Trudy on our calendar? Yeah, let me talk with Andrew and we're gonna confirm it. I think Samantha Haggerty and Chris Suriano, Suriani, I think we've all but confirmed that date. We'll take care of that in short order. We aren't available to present to that's a problem. We need to know if we're available too. So, Keisha, Brian. What's the date and the time exactly? It would be 1024 at roughly 10 o'clock. To when, so? Oh, probably just a couple hours. How's that looking Trudy? She's Trudy's got eyes on the calendar right now for commissioners. And we probably need to mark that up as a public meeting, right? There might be some security or an executive session or something down there, Todd, if we're asking questions or is this a training type thing so we don't have to worry about it. Well, if you wanna just get a presentation, we don't need to mark it up. If you wanna ask questions and discuss it, then you would need to have a public meeting. What time is this for? 10 o'clock. Madam Chair, I'm just looking at your email again. I think it's October 26th, not the 24th. I just wanted to double check before the calendars are all checked. That's helpful, Carrie. That's my mistake. I'm going by memory. I'm sorry. No, that's okay. Thank you, Carrie. Yeah, thanks for catching that. I think we said it takes a village. I can do it if you're asking for openings. Yeah, it is like all the commissioners are pretty available on Thursday the 26th, 10 a.m. Yeah, it's funny, the 24th, there's a hold to be down at the racetrack potentially anyway in the afternoon. So I thought that was gonna line up perfectly, but I'm open on the 26th, too. So we can be back and forth. Well, actually, that's interesting. Must be that there's a race on the 24th that. Yeah, let's have a hold for horse racing finals. Million Dollar Tuesday at Plain Ridge. Well, Burke, a suggestion could be if they would entertain the 24th, that might be helpful to us, but we understand if that might not be available to them. We will discuss that with them. Okay, if we're all down there, it spares us and it saves the commonwealth of that. So there we go. So it's either the 24th or the 26th, great. And then we'll just figure out, commissioners, we might as well ask now, do we need to mark that up as a public meeting? Because if we want to feel comfortable asking questions. You know me, madam chair, I'm going to ask questions. So yes, please. Yeah, it's hard to have a presentation without asking questions. Commissioner Maynard, you're looking, what are you thinking? Oh, no, I was just laughing at Commissioner Hill's comment. And the only issue there is whether the licensee would have any issue with members of the public coming and watching this presentation as well and the media and everyone like that. Well, so if, I guess then my second question would be that it's likely to involve perhaps issues around security. So I wonder if it's appropriate for an executive session. Possibly, we'd have to look at what they'd be talking about. I don't know. So what I'm hearing is that our choice is to have a presentation where we ask no questions. We have three choices where we can't do any kinds of questions because that could be deliberations, but they want us to have a presentation. So second, then we would probably ask all those questions at a public meeting two weeks later, just to be clear, that those questions will probably be asked one way or another, right? And then second, if we mark it up for public meeting, what the, how the licensee feels about that. And then third, market for public meeting, if we make it clear if it is gonna be an executive session, if it's appropriate for executive session, we'd vote, of course, have to vote into that. We would let the public know that it's going to probably, we anticipate it being an executive session so that they don't go down there in an unfair fashion. So we've got some time to explore that. We could explore that further with them. Yeah, thank you, Heather. I think that it's about three scenarios that could play out. But ultimately, Mr. Hill, your questions are gonna get answered one way or another. Okay. So that's a possible public meeting. We'll put that down and figure out that schedule. Something else? Where were we? The cashless way drink. Anything else on that? So Heather, that's really first step, the presentation, and then because they want it on site, and then probably depending on if we do presentation only, then we bring it back for a public meeting for answering questions, vote, et cetera, or we combine it somehow down there. And then the executive, or run an executive session somehow. Okay. There will also be regulations coming down the pipe on that topic, Madam Chair. I heard you were hard at work on that, Carrie. So what is the timing for that? We're kind of early stages. It's hard having not seen how the system works. So I'm hoping we'll start progressing a little more after September 26th. So the bottom line is that we would probably vote on this after the regs are in place. Yeah. We give the, if we give a green light, it's going to be after your work. So Heather, presentation, maybe we just make it a presentation Commissioner Hill and just make it a presentation, reserve our questions, get the regs in and then answer all of our questions either in public or in executive session. What do you think, Commissioner Hill? And then if we have more questions about the presentation, I'm sure they'll invite us back down. All right. Maybe that's the most efficient way to do it. Okay. Diversity audit. Commissioner Skinner, I know I asked about that update, but I'm not sure where you are, no pressure. Yeah. First, could we add Dave Muldrew and Orbanisua Sunday to this item? I haven't consulted with either of those two, but I would think that we'd be okay to give some kind of a status update because I think that's what this item is. Yeah. On October 2nd, if there's room, but again, I haven't consulted with either of them. And so I don't know how they feel. It's really, we could even do it under Council Grossman, or not Council Grossman in this capacity, but interim ED as part of his admin update, if that works. Well, we have Chief Muldrew here. So he can chime in. Good morning, Dave. Good morning, Madam Chair and Commissioners. Sure, I've been working with and communicating with Banisua and her project manager role, the diversity audit. And I'm sure we'd be able to present, would like to have an outline as to what data would like to be reviewed, how comprehensive, but we certainly would have the time to be able to do that. So yes, I just would like to get some more information as to what's expected, that's all. Okay, so why don't we kind of do a tentative when this would be October 2nd, and if we need to roll it over as part of the administrative update, that's no problem, right? That sounds good to me. Okay, great. Thank you, Nakisha. All right. Thank you, David. Absolutely. Moving on to item number 10, I know that yesterday we had a meeting planned on this issue, just to give a little bit of direction for meeting in the next meetings, Commissioner Hill, and we rolled that over. So should we keep this under review till we figure out the right date? I'm looking at, I'm looking at Commissioner Hill, but also now at Dr. Lightbaugh. And the answer is yes, keep it under review. And Dr. Lightbaugh, you're comfortable with that? Yes. Okay, great. All right. And I think that's getting rescheduled that meeting. Okay. And then, again, the mission statement working group, I didn't know if you would want to do any kind of an interim status report if you're feeling a need to get input or whatever you're thinking. Commissioner O'Brien, Commissioner Maynard. I was wondering, Commissioner O'Brien, but I think that we're making a good headway and we'll be able to present something pretty soon. I would keep it under review for right now. I'm looking at Commissioner O'Brien just to make sure, but... It's close, but I don't want to say a date right now, but we'll be advancing it maybe by the next agenda setting with a more specific date. That's excellent. Yeah. Great work. Thanks. Okay, anything else for under review team? Dr. Lightbaugh. Yeah. I just wanted to put it on everybody's radar that applications for raising licenses are due October 1st, and of course, we're planning on getting one from Plain Ridge. So we'll need to schedule the adjudicatory hearing before November 15th. And also, I'm trying to think what we call it the review period where the public can come in and give their comments on it. Usually we hold that at the Plain Ridge Town Hall. We do. I like that. So we've got to find some time on our, before November 1st. Before November 15th? Yeah. Opportunity for a public hearing. I think that's right. Thank you. And to hear from the folks in the Plain Ridge community and the stakeholders there. Maybe we should coordinate that. We can't do everything on October 24th. Commissioner O'Brien's reading my mind. That might be a little late, but Commissioner O'Brien is reading my mind. Or just at least having a double down on one of those, as opposed to three separate trips, if we can get some pairing on one of those dates. Yeah. And then there's an adjudicatory hearing form after that. Oh, that's right. Commissioner Maynard, you were leaning in. Were you going to lean in on the hearing? Let her finish this. And I actually have something I want to add to her review. Okay. So the adjudicatory hearing on Plain Ridge's application, we need to do that before November 15th or? Correct. And then we need to have the, you know, meet the hearing for public comments before that. Yeah. So I've got that. And then I'm just thinking we need it by November 15th, not on November 15th. We need it before November 15th. Just, yeah. So we need to get the adjudicatory hearing on. I'm trying. We're scheduled for a... It's helpful to have a little bit of a buffer in case there's any additional questions or anything that needs to come back. That's right. That's right. So I'm just thinking out loud and not doing a very good job at it. Okay. Yeah. So Trudy, I'll have you work with Grace on finding those dates for the adjudicatory hearing in advance of November 15th with all five commissioners that can be virtual. The license, because it's on paper only, right? The licensee doesn't appear or does the licensee appear? Yes. They do appear. Yes. So it's a full adjudicatory hearing, but that can be virtual. Claimage of the review, the public hearing is in person. So we would need to just coordinate with the town. They have a meeting room, it's quite lovely, very convenient for us. And they've been generous letting us use that for the public hearing. In advance. Probably well in advance of the adjudicatory hearing so we can digest the comments. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Anything else for under review? Commissioner Maynard. So Madam Chair, we discussed this earlier in the year with Director Wells about an internship program and you assigned Commissioner O'Brien and myself to begin speaking about it. And I know that we had some emails with Trudy, but it kind of fell by the wayside. I'm definitely, we got kind of busy with some other things. But given that the school year is starting again, we started thinking about this and Commissioner O'Brien and I have had another conversation. We'd really like to put it under review so we can kind of get the program hammered out and then present it to the full commission for a vote. Love that. And the combination, I know Commissioner O'Brien, and you've been thinking about the Northeastern Colloc program and Commissioner Maynard, you and I share similar experience from our past jobs and lots of pipelines there. It's a pipeline from the schools into the internship program and then it can be a really good opportunity for developing team members, real pipelines. So thank you. How can we help you? Do we keep it under review for now? Should we, and what can we do as fellow commissioners? Anything at this time? My thoughts are just that Commissioner O'Brien and I were gonna meet with Trudy, perhaps Derek, on budgetary issues and then bring something back. That was my thought. Yeah. Maybe it's gonna be a get to the January 1st group, right? Or in the next semester. Planting a seat over there isn't a bad idea though, at Northeastern. Okay, great. That's really good. Thank you for bringing that up, Commissioner Maynard. Okay. Madam Chair. Yes. Could we add the first FY24 quarterly budget update and that we should be ready to do in the second meeting in October? Yes. I think I hear some background noise. It might be chief. There we go. Okay. Okay. So there's a possibility you might do both reports then if you need that, right? Yes. They're okay with that. All right. Thanks. Thank you. Madam Chair. Yes. I would also like to be part of the internship discussion. Yes. Absolutely. It makes a lot of sense. It's exciting. I think Chief Mildrew's name is at the top of your list. So good. And Trupadee turned on her camera. So that's excellent. So thank you. All right. Good. You're happy now. Great, great, great. Thanks, Dave. Okay. It is exciting and something that's been brought up over years, Dave. So as you know, state government, it does serve as a great pipeline for talents. Absolutely. All right. Thanks. Okay. Anything else for under review? I'm not sure. So we have a meeting at 1130 with many members of the team to get an update and that will be under the public meeting. So for this meeting, if everybody is all set, great work, everyone. Thank you for keeping all of us organized and we'll need a motion to adjourn, take a break and then reconvene at 1130 in the new public meeting. Todd, are you all set? I'm out of chair. Oh, yeah. I was just asking Todd if he was all set and I got a yes. Okay. Commissioner Harold. Well, to a chair. Okay. Thank you. Second. Thank you. Any edits, comments? Okay, Commissioner Bryan. Aye. Commissioner Hill. Aye. Commissioner Skinner. Aye. Commissioner Maynard. Aye. And I vote yes. Five, zero. Thanks, everyone.