 Good evening, everyone, and welcome to our first Q&A via Zoom for new members in February. This is something that we have twice a month for new and not so new members, just anyone who wants to look at the profiles that they're working on in real time and get some help and suggestions. My name is Betsy Coe and I've been a wiki tree for about four years now. And like many people, I stumbled onto wiki tree through a Google search on an ancestor that I was running and the ancestor had a wiki tree profile and I was really intrigued because I was a little puzzled by this ancestor and there was a research note on her profile and I thought, wow, that's really thoughtful. And so I went ahead and joined and then realized that there was kind of a steep learning curve for navigating how to create profiles and build things out. So I sort of went in fits and spurts. For me, watching the Saturday Roundup livecast was a really great inspiration because of the way profiles are shown and you get to see like, oh, it's possible to do this or that and then ask questions and then experiment on your own. And very happily, I have become one of the hosts of the Saturday Roundup livecast a little over a year ago. It really has a special place in my heart because it's how I started feeling connected to the community. Where I spend time at wiki tree is several projects, Wales, England, Scotland, Canada and the global project. I'm now heading up the Taiwan project and I'm also a mentor and I help run events. So when it's thaw and time, you'll see my name around a lot and I've run the rock challenge and Stephen, Stephen is one of our five people who's getting rocked this month. So exciting stuff. And so with me tonight, I have Murray Maloney. Can you introduce yourself, Murray? Actually I did to almost everybody here except for Paul. So I'm a retired technical writer and I've been working on wiki tree for the last four years and I've been helping by writing some of the documentation for the wiki tree browser extension and for the fan chart and for the forthcoming super tree that Greg Clark is working on, which is pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. And I've been working on my tree and learning a lot about who my ancestors were, which has been fun. And my connection count is up to 1350, I think it is now. Wow. So yeah, I jumped quite a bit recently. Do you know why? Do you know how it happened? I just keep plugging away and adding people. Oh, okay. It's okay. Good. Cousins and aunts and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing more exciting than tapping in, making one connection that gives you a big... Yeah. Yeah. I don't get many of those anymore. Yeah. Right. Usually when that happens, when that connection happens, it's passed by seven. Oh, sure. Yeah. It's more like 11 or 12 or 13, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So that's me. That's me in a nutshell. Okay. All right. So I've introduced yourself to everyone here, but remember, we've got people who are watching us. We've got our viewers. Yes. Yeah. So thank you and welcome to everyone who's joining us asynchronously. Yeah. Yeah. What do I do with my glasses? Let's see. So let's... I did want to go over tags and hopefully this might be helpful for somebody. I'm going to share my screen. I'll just use my profile as an example. Okay. So can you give me a thumbs up? Everybody seeing my screen? Great. Yeah. Great. Yes. So you've got your bio down here, which when you edit, that will take you to this part of the biography. Of course, you can adjust your birthplace or date, that sort of thing. And what I feel is often overlooked is this section up at the top that's got a gray background. And that is its own section. And this is where you see your badges. You can send a little sort of a headline like, this is who I am. This is what I do. And then very important in this smaller box to the left is your tags, whether you've tested for DNA. And then just... This is automatically generated on the surnames where you've done the most work in 2024. So you don't have to worry about this part here. But what I want to look at is the tags because what this will do is it will customize what you see when you go to G2G. So there are two ways that you can either directly edit there or you can edit the whole thing up in the upper right-hand corner. There's another edit bar. So I'm just going to be direct about it. And so you do have a 20 tag limit here. So I've gotten to the point I think I think I'm at 20. And so, you know, if there's something I really, really want to follow, I have to make some hard choices. But when you go to add a tag, let's see, am I at 20? So oh, I'm at 19. Let's see. What could I add? How about wiki tree plus? Is that a tag? Murray, do you know if that's a tag, wiki tree? There should be. You're muted. I don't know when it's not one that I use, but it'll tell you if you... You'll need to put it... Oh, see it's giving you a list. It's suggesting things. For example, you're on the we will rock you list, aren't you? I'm already following that one. Let me... You have to put an underscore between the two words, like the other ones? Yes. Oh, maybe so. And then you are required, but don't feel like you have to write a novel here interested in learning more. And then we're going to enter the new tag. I sort of feel like wiki tree plus has to be a tag. So now when I go to G to G, you can see some of my tags here. I'm going to switch over to my G to G feed. So that is, it tells me again, up at the top, what I should refresh this because I just added a tag. Okay. There's my wiki tree plus. I just added it and that tailors what I am going to see here. So it's really a good, I mean, there's so much activity on G to G that's really helpful to be able to focus and drill down a little bit. So you can see I'm seeing this one because I follow Scotland and et cetera. Now if I say I'm interested in seeing, well, what is everything that has been shown for wiki written for wiki tree love in the last week, I can click on that and it's going to pull out chronologically all of the wiki tree love posts because when you put a post on G to G, you really want to tag it as specifically as possible so that it gets to the eyes of people who are most likely able to help you. So yeah. Good advice. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that's my quick little beginner tidbit and now we did have, we wanted to see how to load a picture. The images. Yeah. Yeah. And Murray, I'm going to do one and you're going to do one. Sure. Sure. Okay. Now if I go to, well, I'll just go to my profile again. I'm going to load a picture of my grandmother so to find her quickly, there she is. Okay. So you want to go to images. Make sure that you have the photo say, you know, sort of queued up and ready to go on your desktop. And I'm going to click, click here to upload it. Now I'm going to choose the file and then select it. This is the next field is required. This was a photo that was passed along to me from my aunt. So I'm going to say it was scanned from family photo collection. This seems to be a good point to address. What if I see a great picture on ancestry, you know, some, some like fourth cousin of mine has this picture and I really, really want to use it and you can't, although on ancestry, it is people do, you know, just, oh, I'll state that picture in that picture. You can't just download it and use it on wiki tree. You do want to send a message to the person and ask for permission. So I just sort of, I have a, like a standard message that I send people. I explain that I'm working on their, their, our shared ancestors profile. I give them the link. I say, would you mind if I use this photo? And if they respond, I've never had anyone say no. So, you know, you're, you're mainly only stuck if they're, if they're not responsive. And importantly, you want to, you want to mention that in this comment section. So if you, if you receive the picture from someone, you want to give them credit for having given you the picture and an acknowledge that they gave you granted you permission to, to display it here on wiki tree. Yeah, yeah, excellent point, Murray. And so what I would say is granted permission to use this photo by Joe Smith ancestry user on, you know, the date of our message exchange. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So you can title it whatever you want. So my grandmother's nickname was Babs Babs read. And this photo was from before she was married. So she was at work as a nurse. This was at polyclinic hospital in New York. You know, actually this would just be like any other location that should be New York. No. Okay. New York, New York City. Maybe I'll put that in the polyclinic hospital. Okay. And the dates, I'm certain, I'm certain it was New York City. The date, I'm less certain. I'm going to say it's 1927. She arrived in 26. She was married in 28. So there we go. I'll say it's approximate. It's a photo of her. Now, if you were, say, uploading a photo or screenshot of an obituary or newspaper clipping or some kind of document, then you would select, select source. So, okay, but it is a photo. Now we're going to upload it. And there we have it. Now she's, she's the, I don't know who the other two friends are in this photo. So, but if I did say it was a family shot where I knew who, who everybody was, I could add them. I could tag them so that I don't have to upload the photo, you know, for as many people as are in the photo. I can just tag everybody once. And then it'll appear on their photos too. So there's everything I've entered. There's my, my description. So if I wanted to set this as her profile image, your main profile image, I could, I don't want to, but if there are no other images on a profile, sometimes this is automatic. And if you don't want it, you have to go back and undo it. But that would all happen here. If you wanted to make a photo, a background image, you could do that here. I suppose if, if you had a landscape or artwork by your ancestor, that might, that might be good. Now here's how you could put the image inside the text of your biography. Okay. All you're going to, everything's all done for you. You're going to just copy this. I put it on my clipboard. And now I'm going to go back. Yeah. Yeah. Murray, did you say something? Oh, no, nothing. Oh, sorry. Okay. I'm back on her profile. I'll go to edits. Now I have a little work to do on her biography, but let's see. Yeah. Boy, do I have a work to do. I've done my grandfather's profile, but I really, I need to do a better job here. So I'm going to say she emigrated to the United States in 1926 and worked as a nurse at Polyclinic Hospital in New York City. Here she is enjoying a lighthearted moment with work friends, colleagues. You've got new city instead of New York City. Thank you. Okay. So then I would just, there's the text that I copied from the other page. So now I can say that I have improved the bio and I'm going to do a full save. Oh, slow, slow. Okay. And there it is. So it titled it with the title that I gave to the image. And you will still, you will still see it both within the biotechs as well as along the side, but yeah. Now if you knew that each of the people in the pictures, could you highlight your cursor over it and would it tell them who's who? If you'd hang out. Oh, kind of like Instagram. Yeah. I don't. No, our WikiTree doesn't work that way. Okay. I didn't think so, but I thought that's good. Yeah. Right. But you can put text over the image so that when you hover over the image, it might name babs and it might name them in order. If you might be able to read that text if you put it in there. So I'll demonstrate that to you in a moment. That would be great. I would love to see that. So I'll hand it, I'll stop sharing and hand it over to you, Mary. Let's see what I want to share. It's always hard figuring this out what you should select. Okay. So I think this is what I need to do and share. All right. So are you seeing? Yep. You are seeing that. Your image archive. Yeah. So I do think, I do things a little bit differently than what Betsy just did and I want to demonstrate to you a little trick that you can use. This is my image archive. So I keep a space page and I just add images here. And the advantage to that is that if I put them on this page, if I add them to my image list on this page, then when I go to add them onto a profile, they don't show up on the list on the right hand side. They're just not even there. Okay. So as a result, if you want a profile that's really clean and has all of its images separate from, you know, so that right column is clean, then you can put them in a separate space page. Now you might do what I've done here, which is to just keep one archive page, or you might have an ancestor for whom you have a lot of images. And for that person, you want to have their collection of images all in one space page. And you know what? You can create as many space pages as you want. So go ahead. As long as there's something that you can use, you know, it's useful to you, you can go ahead and create it. So if you create a space page for your grandmother, let's say, because you have a lot of images of your grandmother, then you can just create, add all these images to that page. And then where you want to place them in her profile, you just place them. So I'm going to show you now. Uh, we're going to add all the images. There we go. And click here to upload an image. Clean shots. Murray, can I ask a question? Yep. Um, okay, up there it says it has to be 10 megabytes or less. I don't know if I really know how to figure that out. Um, photo? You know, okay, so, so if you look on my screen here, you can see that this image that I'm about to select is 105 kilobytes. It's not a huge. I have an iPad and I don't think it says like it does on the PC. Oh, okay. You know, I suspect that if you have an iPad and you've got an image on your iPad that you're going to add, it's probably not too big. And you know, you know, you know what? If it was too big, it'll tell you. Okay. They haven't kicked any off yet. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't worry about it too much. I think it's unlikely that you're going to run into any 10 megabyte images. Okay. I have to say I never noticed that little bit of this, the text. So I think, I think it's probably a wide margin to reach that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So I'm going to click on this image now that I want to bring in. And what I did was like, I copied this from an app. And I'll show you that app in a moment. But here's my image. And this is a, dates and locations are irrelevant. And this is not a photo of me. It is a source. So now I'm going to upload the image. Okay. So now we have this bit of my family tree that I can now slide down here and grab. Now where Betsy grabbed the upper text, I'm going to grab this one. Okay. And I'm going to copy that. And I'm going to go to my profile. So here's my profile. And I'm going to collapse the table of contents. So now you can see the top of my biography and about me. And we're going to put this tree right after the advanced directive. Okay. So I'm going to go to edit. So let me follow that. There we go. So now I'm going to paste that in. So what it put in, it says there's an image that I want here. And it's in this file. Marie Maloney image archive. And it's number 14. And it says align it right. Not left, not center, but right. And make it medium. No, I don't want it medium. I want it large. And there's a difference if I use an L or if I type out large. So I'm going to type out large. So now for my caption, I'm going to say Maloney family tree. Whoops. And then I'm going to add something. The label. Oops. Okay. Now for the label, I'm going to say Marie. Maloney's family tree. Period. Parents. Names. Marie. And Helen. Okay. You get the point. So now I'm going to save this. The wrong place. Come down here. And I'm going to say I added. I did a bio improvement. And I'm going to do a full save. Right. Now let's go look to see what happened. So there it is. And look at that. I goofed. Okay. Then that's why the that's why the tan and color is underneath it like that. I goofed. I should have done something and I'll go back and do it in a minute. But you can see the images there. And you can see it's got a caption Maloney family tree. But now if I hover the mouse over it, a little box pops up. And what I put in the label appears. And if and if you if you read the documentation for the web browser extension or the fan chart, then you'll notice I do the same thing there. And I always add extra information so that if you hover over an image, you're going to learn more. So that's just a little trick. Now, now I'm going to show you the goof that I made. Okay. If that's all right. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Now the goof that I made was that I didn't tell the wiki that okay, I'm finished with the image. And I don't I don't need. I don't need you to treat it. Treat it that area special anymore. And so what happened was the heading for research notes. It grew to to to encompass part of the image because that because that heading didn't know that it wasn't supposed to be part of the image. Okay. And so what I did was here I is I added clear. And that so once you've done it, once you've done your images, you can you can do a clear. Now what you also can do by the way is, you know, when you say left or right, then there's going to be space on either side or on one side or the other. Okay. And you can you can add text. Here's my text to describe my tree. Okay. So let's preview that and see what happened. Oh, oh, see, it popped it after it because it didn't have space in the preview. So but but probably in the full one it will. So let's go that another bio improvement and we'll save that. Oh, no, it still didn't have room. Because because the image was large enough that it felt filled in that space. So now is it all right if I show that app? Sure. Yeah. So this is an app that will be coming coming soon. You'll be able to see the super big family tree. Yeah. And it's going to be renamed to super tree. Super tree. I love that. But but but Greg and I still call it the super big family tree. Anyway, so here's the here's the tree. This is this is basically how it looks when you start. And then you can grow it. And now how do I I've got this list of list of images on my right-hand side and I can't see part of my screen. How do I how do I move that? Oh, just sort of drag it down to the bottom. Just just sort of. Okay, got it. Got it. Okay. Super. All right. So oh, perfect. But it fits itself. So let's let's go up a generation. Okay. So it did it. Now I'm going to go over here and then this is the resize. And there's three sizes I can go. Okay. And that's whoops. So I see I've gone up an extra generation and I can do it again. And you customized all the colors, Mary. So well, I mean, so what we did was so I just wasn't happy with the set of colors that were coming up. And and so Greg and I worked out a color scheme. And I don't think we've I don't think we're finished with it yet. But basically, I wanted the male side to be more blue and the and the female side to be more pink. Okay. Basically, we're going to come down to the, you know, the parents are blue and pink. Okay. So my parents and my father's blue and my mother's pink. And and then we wanted a mix of other colors, of course, to lean, you know, come down to that. And same on that on this side, right? We have to refine it a little bit. But but we're working on that. So so then, of course, you can also go down and you can also set up a lot of things. So you can you can describe, you know, how you want the names to be described, how you want the dates. And the places and and which colors you want to use. And you can do things like. Oh, no. Yeah, it's not there yet. Sorry. So there'll be there'll be there'll be highlighting things tricks to to do here right now. It's only alive on this day in biography text. But anyway, this will be this will be a long soon. There's just some some details that have to be worked out with the changes in the API recently about privacy. And in the in the. And Greg just hasn't caught up yet to those changes and that the changes happened just as he was about to release it. But but now he's got to make some modifications. So so you can click on somebody. And you can see more about them. And then if you click on that, you'll go to go to there. You'll open a new profile. And and you can also jump to see them in a fan chart or see their descendants list or to see this person in a tree like this one. Can you take a shot of the tree there also? Sorry, say again. Can you take a screenshot of the tree to them? Like you paste it into your. Yeah, exactly. Well, that that's exactly how I did. I took a screenshot of this. But there's also this really cool. Let me just see if that's working yet. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're still so we're still working out making this work quite right. Can't get the whole tree in. But we're but he's working on that. And that should be that should be there soon. And so so theoretically, you would be able to print a tree that you have seven generations up and seven generations down. And then the real trick there is to be able to send that to a printer that would print it big enough so you'd actually be able to read anything. Right. Because if you put it if you put it on a regular sheet of paper, it's just going to be all too small, right? So you'd have to you have to put it on a really big printer. And then that's part of what what he's trying to figure out too is how do you create a file that you can send to a commercial printer to print on a on a large enough sheet? Sort of to be worthwhile or or could you do it by by having like having it print out like, you know, 20 or 30, eight and a half by 11 sheets that you go to a wall and you paste up on the wall and, you know, show your whole family tree. Kind of thing. Anyway, so enough of that. I am going to while you're still there. Marie. Sorry. Yeah. Can you drag that around? Like, OK, now down on the bottom. Yeah. That's what my iPad does and it doesn't go away. What? Oh, the trails. Yeah. Yeah, I know. So, so on this particular app and on the also on the fan chart, if you go to privatize and click and then and then click it again. All the trails disappear. So that privatizes it. So that privatizes it. So that right now we're not showing any any living person that isn't a member on wiki tree. And if I do this now now living people who aren't on wiki tree are showing, but you can't read it because it's too small. But anyway, so that that button actually makes those trails go away. Let me show you that again. Let me show you that again. I want you to see the trails disappear. So, yeah, we're going to make it really goofy. Right. Okay. Now just do that. And boom. Nice. Thank you. Yeah, you bet. Now, how do I undo this? How do I get out of? Jeremy, oh, no, not new, not new share. Oh, stop share. There it is. Good. So back to you Betsy. Oh, well, I mean, it's it's a collaborative effort. Here. Oh, yep. You're back. It's fine. Let's see. We have about 20 minutes left. Do we have any questions? Anyone want us to look at their profiles? Yes, Sue. Okay. Back to when he was putting the picture on first. He said you spell out large, you don't just put L and you're going to tell us why. So so it turns out that that's S, M and L you can use and you can also use large. And if you use large, it's going to try and make it as big as the image is within the limits of that's that that column. Okay. So let's say the image was twice as wide as the column. It's still going to fit in the column. But let's say the image was only half the size of the column. It's going to show up as half the size of the column. Okay. And but but if you use S, M and L, you get what are they? There's 200, 200 pixels, 300 pixels and four or maybe it's 600 pixels. So so there's, you know, specific measurement that they're going to use for those. And so I just find it for me for how I work. I just find using large and because of the nature of the screenshots and different things I use that I just find large is the best way for me to work. But you have to you have to just try things and see how they look. Right. And it doesn't like, you know, it does cost the system. Every time you do a save, it costs the system a little bit. Right. And so we try to discourage people from save, save, save, save, save. Right. We don't want people to do that all the time. But but sometimes, you know, you, the only way you're going to see how it looks is if you see how it looks and the preview doesn't give you a true fidelity because it's not the full width. Right. You're not seeing what it should look like. So sometimes you do have to save and go back and adjust it. But you learn and once you learn, then you decide this is what I like. Right. And you might, you might decide you like out and I like large and that's okay. Okay. Right. Because wiki tree, we can each do what we want to do and, and right. And some people are going to pat us on the back and other people are going to, are going to, you know, thumb their nose at us and it doesn't matter. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember when I would, oh, go ahead Sue. Well, I was just going to ask, could you look at one of my profiles? I've got a picture on there. And I was, I don't, I put large or small, but okay, it's, I'm not sure of the number, but it's generic and I'm sure there's not many. Okay. G, E, N, N. Okay. Let me, let me screen share and then you can type it in. And before we do that, I just want to answer a question Stephen put in the chat about if, if you inherit your grandmother's photo album and she has passed on, then yes, you, you can say that they are your photos to share. Yes. Good. Yeah. Okay. All right. So now I'm going to go to share screen and I will go to, okay. What is it? What is the name, Sue? G-E-N-N-E-A-R-Y. Okay. Do we want to put a first name in or do you think? Roy. Roy. Okay. Search. Oh, well, that was easy. Yeah. That happened very often. Okay. Okay. All right. There we are. Okay. I have a picture down farther and it seems like it's pretty big for the size of the, the biography. Well, Sue, you're talking about the one that I, okay. Yeah, it's not. Any, yeah, any picture that's on the right like that will be that size. I think she's talking about further down though. In the biography where I put it there now. Oh, okay. It's not as big as I thought it was. Yeah. It's a very nice one. So, so what we can say about that is that it, you know, it wouldn't hurt if it were bigger. You're, you, you're putting a lot of space into the caption. Yeah. And, and it works, but it, but you could, you could have, you could have that information in a paragraph before and after too, right? Well, I didn't know what I was doing when I did it. So, yeah, it's okay. What, how, how would you improve it? Okay. Let me think. So I would, I would either make it left or right and I would have the text be on, beside it. Okay. Instead of a caption. Okay. Do we want to try that and see how it looks? Sure. Okay. If you want to, do you want to, do you want to take over? I can direct you Betsy. Okay. All right. You drive, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll navigate. Okay. Edits. Yep. Let's go down to that, find that image. Yep. Okay. There we go. Right. Now let's let me look at that for a second. So, so double click on the word caption. Okay. Okay. Like. Okay. That's, that's good. Now, and type in now the word label. Where will I type that? Right, right now, just go ahead and type. Oh, okay. No, you selected caption. So, yeah. Okay. Okay. So now, now the, the text from Brigittear to 1967, grab that and copy it. Okay. And put it after. After, after the braces. Okay. Like here. Well, you can put a space, sorry, you can put a line after the brace and before Brigittear. Okay. Now, let's go back up. Um, uh, excuse me a sec. I just have to look at something quickly. Okay. Do you, uh, do you want it on the left or on the right? You want the image on the left or on the right? Sue? Um, which way is he looking? I can't tell you the wrong one. I think straight ahead. Oh, okay. Then it doesn't matter. Yeah. Put it on the right, the writing on the right. Okay. So we need, um, we need, let's see on what line after, after, uh, dot jpeg. Yeah. I started a new line. Okay. Um, um, vertical bar. Align. Equal. Align. Equals. Left. L. Just. Yeah. Uh-huh. Um, and then we're going to do a, um, let's do a size, let's do a size equals large. Okay. Is that a new line and with a pipe? Yeah. Yeah. A pipe and a size equals large. Okay. So by the way, everybody, this, uh, the vertical line, which on many, well on my keyboard, it's, it's sort of on the upper right and then you have to shift to get it. That's also called a pipe. Um, okay. Size. Equals. Equals. Large. Yeah. Let's try that. Okay. Um, let me see what else. Oh, and then after, in between 1967 and obituary. Mm-hmm. We want a clear, uh, double brace, clear double brace. Yep. Uh, I, I think it should be a capital C. I'm not sure. I always do capital C. Okay. All right. Um, so just, just for safety's sake, let's preview that and make sure that, that I didn't mess anything up and then we'll do a save and see what it really looks like. All of those instructions. Oh, that's really big. All of those instructions. So, so, so large is too big. So we're going to go to L. Uh, no, we're going to go to M. Okay. Now let's go back up and we'll make the size M. Where is it? Uh, uh-huh. Okay. Make the size M. Okay. And so notice that when you go down to preview again, again, you have to, if you make a change, you have to click preview again to see the results of that change there. So now what we've done here is now, she's hovering over the picture. Don't go back, hover. So the text that's, the text that's up there on the right is also the text that's in the hover. See? Mm-hmm. Is that, is that an improvement, sir? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Is there any way we could make the, um, the righty narrower so it goes down further instead of just at the top there? Well, we'd have to have more words. This was the caption that went with the picture in the magazine. I took it from, so. Okay. Um, no, there's text, there's text. Well, the seats, see some of the text below is part of his obituary, right? Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, the picture in that just sort of separate. Yeah. Now, when you made the, oh, I'm sorry, Steven. Okay, go ahead, sir. Okay. When you made all those things with the order, the size equals and this and stuff, does that have to be in a certain order? Um, I don't believe so. Okay. I think, I think there's just, there's a, you know, there's a list of things that you can do. So you can, you can set the alignment, align equals, size equals. You can set the label, which is what you get when you, when you mouse over something and you can set the caption, which is the text that goes underneath. Now, the thing about the caption is if you put too much text in the caption, it's going to be wider than the picture. So sometimes that kind of messes up your purpose, right? And so you want to look at the reconsider how you handle that, which is what we did here. Yeah. Yeah. And what else is there? Um, let me just check and see if there's an obvious one that I've missed. You know, I think. Those are the ones I know. Yeah. If you, um, let me just, uh, go to, uh, for a second. We will save that in a second, but if I go to, um, oh goodness, go to my profile and I'm just going to pick an image, images. Um, okay. All right. So if I go down here, um, it's a nice, this is what I grabbed to insert the picture within the biography text. But below it is this example here that gives you a nice little working template. Oh, okay. Yeah. So just any, any image page will have that. Okay. That's really technical stuff. Yeah. Make it look classy. Yeah. So would you need to go ahead and save it? Yes. Yes. I like that. Thank you very much. Thanks, Mary. I learned, I didn't know how to do captions or labels. Okay. So we did a bio improvement, full save. It's also called alt text, by the way. And so, and so you should know that when you do that, when you add a label, then you're helping anybody who has to use a screen reader to, to access wiki tree. And so, you know, somebody, somebody who's accessing wiki tree will be, would be able to read that caption, that label. We'll have another one of these the fourth Sunday of the month. So that would be the 20, 25th. Yes. Sunday the 25th in the morning. So it's 11 o'clock Eastern Standard Time. Okay. Well, good. It's been fun. Yeah. Well, wrap it up then. Thank you so much for coming. And thank you to everyone who's watching afterwards. And wiki tree on. We'll see you next time. 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