 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Might pop might pop with your hosts Salda Stefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews In this episode. Oh Yeah, my pump. We actually did a half the episode without our fearless producer. Oh man. Here we go Dug so it gets a little rough towards the end of it for the first 30 minutes or so Adam Justin and myself do our typical intro of bullshitting conversation. We talk about you know, you love it Corey Feldman's Lost list. What the fuck dude? He Hollywood's going down. He called out a bunch of hollywood burning in 1993 down there He called out a bunch of people in 1993 to the police department they apparently lost That list and now it's miraculously Resurfaced kind of crazy. We talk about Adam's Spotify Playlist. Yeah, we talk about Justin and Adam's emotional meltdown Like awkward crying like a baby. We talk about men and women and their emotions I mentioned our sponsor organifi and their new gold juice. 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The first question was, you know we talk a lot about the importance of weight training and This particular individual is a triathlete and finds it very difficult to fit it all in What sort of strength training do we recommend for this person who's doing so much? triathlete stuff triathlism Next question was that with electronical next question was this person on the glossary This person's friend told them that adaptation isn't as important as a progressive overload No, it doesn't make sense and that they essentially called it bro science and claim that you could just always stay low reps As long as you're adding weight and you'll get all the results. Yeah, bro. You desire Tell your buddy mine pump Adam calls him a knucklehead probably a meatball Next question was what is our opinion on physical therapists instructing clients to take time off completely? From the gym. 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No, it's not no I think it is in in in my culture. It's good luck. No, they say like the stairs like if you have 13 steps I have to skip the 13 13 is bad luck here, but in it for Italians. It's good luck. Is that right? Okay? I think you did. Let's hear it Doug. All right. We have four shirts going out. The first one up is D light teeny Sounds Italian. Mm-hmm. Sounds delightful. I know mine pump life Jay Fendo 884 and Chodostane all of you are winners What is that last one? Joe Chodostane? It sounds horrible. I like that. Chodostane. Oh, it's Chodostane. I'm sorry. Chodostane I read it It's bad. All right, so all of you are winners in the name I just read to iTunes at mine pump media comms and your shirt size your shipping address and we'll get that right out to you Thanks, everybody. That's right. We got you. I really like this. What is it by? Yeah, BAI Do this do they sell out at Thrive Market? No, no by infuse. I don't think so, right? No artificial sweeteners. I bet they do Maybe duck and look it up. What the buy coconut infuse. What is that? It says no artificial sweeteners I know but as I'm saying maybe it's sold in Thrive Market then. Oh, oh, you mean. Oh, yeah I'm wondering what the price is because you got would you get that one at the gas station? Yeah, I was just getting gas this morning. I wanted something to drink and I want something different And I saw this coconut coconut flair. It's really good. What are the ingredients? It doesn't have much in it man Coconut water natural flavoring potassium White tea extract citric acid sea salt coffee coffee fruit extract That's that's smart to put salt in there. Mm-hmm when you have a little bit of sweet and you throw a little balance a little bit of salt Dude, it's really good. Good chefs know that combo. Mm-hmm. I haven't had I've never had one before you never had one before No, I think Doug was drinking them all weekend. I saw him drink like two of them. Oh really? Have you tried the coconut flavor one yet? Oh Man fuck this is good. Yeah, I know I'm I'm not into flavors like I'm not into drinking flavors I just it's water for me. I'm not a big like I don't know water is a little plain for me really No, it's because you're you did years of yes I did years of gallons of waters Just got sick of it Yeah, man, it's been nice to have it, you know, although I'm gonna say that you know my bicep strength has decreased a lot Did not care around them? Frequency, bro. I'm telling you Carry carry gallon jugs around every single day fucking frequency, dude. Yeah, my shit's dwindling away I got spaghetti arms now dude man that basketball player arms now So, you know how you know it helps you right your biceps get in the way when you train and shoot Yeah, that's true. That's why I have trouble. So Does that way? Yeah too much too much bicep much biceps It's like a dart. I'm too buffed No, I'm not that buffed, but I did win at horse against you guys You know what it is really pushed we get we get new listeners all the time So you want to reiterate the that one time that one day back in 1999 all the stars align So just well because they don't know the respectable sport of they don't know so Pig there's so in horse Adam Justin, and I've been working together for three years Love these guys absolutely love them. They're like my brothers. We have yet to we hadn't ever Competed head-to-head at a sport, right? We've never done that before and Adam's been an athlete his entire life Just we all worked out ahead Justin was a collegiate athlete, you know both extremely experienced. I didn't play any sports I'm just the regular guy. I guess maybe I have maybe I have natural talent. I don't know But we never like the direction or this we never competed in anything like I say in the stage Yeah, and you know because we're not competitive necessarily with each other because we're all good friends and all that stuff and so We were in in Vegas Reno and Reno excuse me the other Vegas. Yeah Yeah, the ugly Vegas and you know, it's they were like, hey, let's play horse You know cuz they're like let's make fun of Sal because we're so athletic and he's not And killed them it was it wasn't even Massacre and you know the best part is we recorded it So if you go to YouTube our mind pump channel our channel mind pump TV buried in there somewhere It's in there and you'll see me winning the competition and till this day Justin Adam are very angry about that and they've been trying to get me to play basketball ever since I mean, but I refuse. There's no reason like I just won. I won There's no way champion. I don't want you to I want you to feel like you're a winner You know, I really do and so like that was one of those things Hey, do you guys see all the fires going on in LA right now? What's going on over there dude? Did you see the video that Joe Rogan posted? Yeah, I've seen that now like 50 times on everyone's page I actually thought that was like a hell. Yeah, I thought that was out of Joe Rogan's car I can't believe they didn't shut the freeways down when it's that close. That's weird to me. I don't know Yeah, that was right on that can't be that can't be smart strategy I'm on the side of the road driving through a you know burning fields on both sides and LA traffic all the embers Just flying over your head. Could you imagine how fucking scared you'd be? Also, you get bumper-to-bunker LA traffic and there's fires on both sides of you It looks like hell looks like the apocalypse. Uh-huh literally what's happening? Have you guys ever seen like a legit house fire and stuff up close? Yeah, you have. Oh, yeah, what's that in Colorado? You we see these the thunderstorms so almost every house has Lightning rods. Yeah on top of yeah on top of there on top of your house, right? So it hits that before it hits your house for me most but some don't and some will strike and hit a field That's kind of grassy with that and then it'll bounce off. Oh, yeah, dude. It's crazy We we would stand we would stand in our in our garage and now we had a lightning rod So I felt safe, right? So if it was anything came close to us, it would hit our house before it hit me And we would stand stand around in the garage and we'd watch lightning striking all around around our house It was fucking and but you saw a house catch fire. Oh, yeah Now I've seen houses catch fire before for sure. Wow when I was a when I was a kid My dad came home from work one day I was really young and our neighbors and that our exact neighbor like down the street house was Hell of smoke was coming out of and I remember this as a kid because it was shocking to me Because the smoke that's produced from us from a fire in a house is very thick and dark and accurate Like it's it's different, right? Then what you'd see when you'd like make a fire a campfire Yeah, so I remember all the smoke coming out and there were all these neighbors gathered around the house this is a crazy story and Everybody was just standing around looking at the house waiting for the fire department to show up and so my dad takes off and I had to stay at home But the story goes my dad goes over there and he says is there anybody in the house and Everybody says we don't know nobody went in the house to check and my dad's like Well, someone needs to go in there and check so he got a blanket and he sprayed it with a hose covered himself Went in the house two kids. What are you kidding me true story? Two kids in the house told that story. It's crazy. Yeah, so two kids in the house. He's a superhero one of the kids was like 10 or 11 the other one was eight and I guess they were in the hallway there and they were just on the like like huddled in the hallway Just crying God because they were so scared Yeah, so my dad runs in grabs these kids like picks them up runs out with them And then the fire department shows up and then the mom shows up so the mom had taken off to go to the store for you know 20 30 minutes left her 11 year old which wasn't that out of the ordinary when we were kids and Yeah, you can leave an 11 year old who's responsible at home Anyway, she She my dad says she sees the the crowd and the fire department and he and he says she was this overweight lady He's like she ran so fast and She kept falling because she was trying to move so fast and she was panicking and screaming And people were trying to like help her and she was because she knew her kids were in there And so my dad's like I found your kids. I got your kids and then so till this day Wow, that's a powerful man. Very powerful. So this so the kid now the 11 year old now is You know, he's got kids of his of his own and he's like a grown man He's like my age, right? Or maybe a little older And because I think I was probably nine so he's in his like 40 40 something And uh, those guys man those they they look at my dad like he's just like the greatest He still see them or hear from them if if he if they come over to their mom's house Because she she still lives there and my dad's outside and they see him. They'll definitely come over Talk to him. Yeah, that's a weird crazy story. Fuck. That's crazy. Yeah, I forgot all about that And in my dad was the other night we were over there and my sister had a boyfriend over And so my dad's telling stories And he's a really good storyteller and he's starting to tell a story And I totally forgot about this because we hadn't talked about it for so long Pretty crazy, but I've never seen yeah, I never say I was the only time first and only time I'd ever seen a house On fire pretty crazy. Yeah, I never had anybody never sorry pretty crazy So I know lately we've been talking about how Hollywood stars and shit are getting Fucking crush. Oh, yeah, like special harassment and just all kinds like they're going down, right? Yeah So check this out So you guys know Corey Feldman. I was gonna say Corey Feldman He like released a list or something, right? So Corey Feldman who was one of the child actors of the he was the 80s like guy Him and Corey. Hey, the other Corey. Yeah, they were like, yeah, they were in like the lost boys together and Couple other movies together a Goonies. weren't they in Goonies together? No, or is that just Corey? Yeah, just but they were in like movies together and they were Like they represented the 80s pretty pretty well and they were deep in there and breakfast club all that kind of genre Apparently so Corey Feldman has been talking about the The like pedophilia and shit that happens in Hollywood for a long time But everybody's ignored him called him crazy whatever Corey Haim is you guys know committed suicide Not that long ago and Corey Feldman's like the guy was the poor guy was like tormented And he witnessed Corey Haim being abused or whatever as a kid a child actor And he says back and so he said On a tv show. I forgot what show it was That back in 1993 He literally made a list to the santa barbara police officers or or county sheriffs, I think He told them on audio and gave a list of all the predators in Hollywood He literally said this person this pretty name these big players Nothing was ever done with it. In fact They said that this audio was lost. They said we don't have it. We don't know what you're talking about, right? so this is something that's Like I've known about for a while because brushed into the rug. Yeah, like and people saying he's crazy this and that Guess what they just found? They found the audio of 1990 in 1993. Corey Feldman audio of him Naming these alleged sexual predators. How many? Uh, you know what it doesn't say but he He calls out Like big players big big players What how crazy is that that they said? Oh, we can't find it now. All of a sudden like we have it Okay, just feeds right more into the conspiracy man. Something is going on. I believe it I seriously think it's trump. I swear to god, dude Did you read the I think he's going after the celebrity. Did you see the the jiu-jitsu guy that we were tagged in about? Um, our boy ombre over it on it. Did you see that? What was the rock conspiracy is he trolling? I don't know. I don't know Someone told me that he I asked around about him to some of our other like jiu-jitsu guys and buddies and they said He's supposed to be a respected guy in the community in the Brazilian jiu-jitsu. He had a decent following Yeah, I had like an apparel company. I don't know anything about him. I don't know what his last name travis No, was that that's his page on that. Yeah instagram No, he had done a post with it's still up there. No, it's gone. Oh, it is taken down. Oh, shit I'm on his page. Oh, that means they got him. I wonder if he's making. I mean, he's got to be trolling Of course, dude. Of course. He is just fucking around for sure. I guarantee. I bet you obry got it pulled down But then it got on reddit and stuff. I guess he was making he was saying the reason why he wasn't included in the Ebi tournament or something because he wouldn't have sex with obry Or be a part of his cult or damn I wonder what I wonder how he got punked dude. He got punked for that, didn't he? Either that or it was all a joke amongst everybody That's a pretty fucked up joke You know why it's a fucked up joke or What's crazy about it is because you know, obry's all open about his open relationship He talks about a lot of stuff and polyamory or whatever they call it So people were some people don't people buying it, right? You know what I mean? They're like, no, this is true This is definitely this gotta be true. Well, I mean, yeah a lot of what they said that there's a he's got like a Cole he tried to sleep with him like well, some of these things aren't too far stretch Ayahuasca he brought up. It's like he openly It's not openly talks about fuckings, you know saying like so those aren't that not believable. I believe all that but I mean I thought it was kind of funny that he's got a decent sized page too. Just say that kind of stuff Right. Well, it looks like he got some backlash. I didn't know it was pulled down right now I don't see it. It lasted two lasted two days. Maybe but it was a whole reddit The heat must have come down. There was a whole reddit thread about it and I think we're heading down to on it In january, I think we're scheduled you with our boy kyle Yeah, I think we're gonna head down there and go see go see them. They're gonna interview us on the on it podcast now that kyle is the director of Human performance human performance. Is that what it is? Yeah. I don't know so many titles They have a lot of titles over there. They do they have a lot of titles over there So we're we'll be there. We'll be there. So we should give a title to like taylor and drew to make them feel You know what I mean? We haven't done a good job with that director of yeah, director of youtube relations I Even think like youtuber is Sounds weird like I've heard people refer to themselves. Oh, I'm a youtuber. Yeah, man. I don't know. I don't know if I'll ever say that We're getting we're getting on. What are we podcasters? Yeah, yeah podcasters and youtubers. Yeah podcast hard Whatever you but you're a blogger too though. Yeah and a trainer. Fuck bro. I'm a trainer I'm gonna put that on my resume trainer blogger youtuber fucking Instagrammer, you know what? Writer fucking you know what though. Do you know what though? You know what podcaster makes me really reminds me little guy when someone says podcaster It reminds me of like when someone would say Author or artist like let's say you're a whoo. Are you putting us up there with that? No, no, no, no, no, let me tell you why Let me tell you why Let's say you're a you're a dad right your daughter's, you know, you know modern renaissance, man Let's say your daughter's 17. She brings home some guys. She's gonna start dating dad I really like him. He's so awesome and you know, he's he's a you know, he's a great guy Whatever and he comes in you're like, hey, so You know, so what's your you know, what do you do? What do you want to do or whatever and he's like, oh, I'm you know, I want to be an artist Or I want to be a podcaster in your mind. You're thinking unemployed. This guy's never gonna He's never gonna make any money. Yep. That's why I said that now because I think we're awesome Oh, because I feel like a lot of people say they're podcasters You know, especially these days, it's growing right now. It is like a gold rush. It's growing. I'm uh, it's I'm excited though for that I love I love seeing that. I think there's I think you're weak if you're if you feel threatened by other people come on We encourage it. There's probably it. I think we have a ton now I mean when we first started there was like a handful But I've seen at least Especially in the fitness space 20 to 30 people that have started a podcast now that are like Started after they listen to mind pump and then they've been they've been doing their own thing now Watch them kind of do it grow and keep going. I love it. I love it because it's great. It's only going to grow the market it's going to grow the awareness of fitness it's podcasting is great because You know, you can just anybody can get into it anybody can go But then they're going to figure out real quickly. There's a lot. Wow We actually have to put a lot into this There's a lot more into it everything from the equipment the sound the production Oh, there's it's very how you run an episode. It's very free market. Esk. Oh, I love it. That's why It's spotify spotify now, right? Isn't spotify like looking at podcasts pretty big now Well, that is the interesting according to Douglas. We should be on there in two weeks because if you think of like Basically itunes just by itself right itunes like who downloads any songs anymore Yeah, everybody streams and who's the best at streaming? Yeah spotify So it just sounds it just seems like it would make a lot of sense to stay on that platform So who knows how good it's going to do podcast live Dude, I just got back on my spotify and it's they've already evolved the business in the short time that I kind of took a little break from it Like I I lost my password like I don't know six months ago. It's already a lot better Oh, dude, I mean they we talked already about how they sign with waves and stuff or waves But just the functionality of the app and then like all the options that you have now and the connectivity Through people like super smooth. It is very smooth. And it's very cool This is what I love about the internet is that it's so free that people jump into it and you look at like You know three years ago. I would have said pandora pandora is going to run rule the music market Totally But somebody else has figured out a better way to do it and now they're taking over like spotifies legit superior to Yeah, I agree to pandora. I much prefer spotify amazon's got music amazon prime music See that pandora used to be uh, I used to like pandora because it was like listening to the radio But it was to you. It's more for lazy spotify has that feature now Yeah spot spotify has the radio feature. It's like instagram now having stories. It's literally snapchat. Yes Didn't you make a music playlist on spotify? Yeah. Yeah, so I my spotify Handles my old handle. Uh, we love to hate adam So we love and then the number two and then hate adam And then I made all jams from when you were I didn't know I did a bunch. So I have I have rock I have hip-hop. I have uh, I even have my like easy listening when I'm smoking weed fucking playlist Yeah, yeah, no, I have rock and like sublime. Yeah Yeah, what's your list? So I don't remember my handle. I'll have to get back to you. But yeah terrible promoter You could find me on there. Yeah, but I you know, I did my high school playlist. I'll put it on the forum Okay, there you go. I was once I got back on spotify I was firing the count back up I kind of cleaned it up for if people were to be because I I've never used it to try and have an audience of people That would be sharing my playlist. Yeah, I always just used it for myself personally But now that they make it the interaction and the connectivity to people like that. I think is really Oh, I love it I should share back and forth with my brother because he was like trying to like show me like an rs He was stoked on or whatever. It's great, man. So you were playing When we were driving back from Chico Adam was playing his playlist And it was all songs that it's like the reminiscent mix Yeah, and then there was what song was it that came on Justin? Were you like, oh, fuck the song made me cry Hello, hard lets what was that? Oh, yeah, it was from stained Yeah, like oh my god. What song was that it was the one that was like breakthrough or breaking I don't you're talking about anyway break the cycle. Yeah So what happened super sad It's so funny because like I remember distinctively and we were talking about that movie that you had just watched Like how everybody's sobbing in that movie. I'm like, dude, I haven't like allowed myself to cry You know, like I always hold it like like I bury that shit And uh, so like I was in Chicago and it was fucking freezing and You know, like I had just like moved away from my girlfriend, but I was still trying to keep it working And uh, were you all in love with her? Totally. Yeah Yeah, it was like a four or five year thing, you know, and like all through like my high school. It was like the high school You know first love thing And so I'm out there trying to kind of recreate like make a name for myself do my own thing She went to Cal Poly. I'm like, I'm gonna go do my own thing, you know, and and so like I just remember I didn't know anybody so I have that going for me, you know I'm trying to make friends, you know, it's fucking freezing. It's like 30 below I wasn't used to that, you know all this shit that I started like ticking all that on When did your girlfriend break up with me? Oh And so like and and we'd gone back and forth like, you know, like But anyways, yeah, she broke up with me and it was like I was in the shower I'm just like thinking about all this shit. I'm just like you start and my that song was playing Like in the uh in like so in the in the past wait there in the dorms You know, there's like I could hear it like somebody was like jamming on it Like and so I was like kind of like like jamming on it and I'm like, oh my god I was getting so sad and I just thought I was like, you know, nobody's in here the door's locked like I'm gonna fucking cry. I said crying and it was just like the floodgates, you know, I was like the It was like snot and shit and like so you had a you had a good cry like Like I was older you right there. I was like, I think I know me. I was so embarrassed like I was done I was like, what was that were you disgusted with Get myself together like I punched myself in the head, you know, how old were you? I was um, I was 21 maybe 22 that's so funny. That did it feel did it feel good afterwards to fucking let it out. Yeah, I was like, oh Yeah, it felt good. But then the rest of the day. I was just like, uh, like I felt like gross about myself It means like I was just like, you know, what was that? I haven't cried like that since the same almost exact same age, dude. What? Yeah, what happened? High school sweetheart same, you know, it's crazy like crushed me chick. They went to count ball Yeah, Emily Meyer. She listens out there. She's the only girl that ever made me cry like that Thanks a lot for that. I fucking I punched a hole in my door I laid on my bed played music in my ears all day long and cried my just cried dude cried in my room Oh my god headphones on put it in my stereo system Listen to all the fucking sad songs and just fucking cried for like 12 hours Like once you get to that place just start feeding you sadness. It was it was that You know, so I have a crazy story of this. So uh, people always trip out that I'm just picturing you guys crying You know, I want to hug you guys, right? You know that it's funny that you said that right there justin about how you like feed it It's it was a weird thing for me that I was so sad so hurt and felt so sorry for myself that I was finding ways to like Like punish myself more that was when I started listening to country music I started listening to country music as a punishment. I always talk about that. She liked country music I hated country music. I started listening country music like to almost like She has like a punishment Torturing yourself. I ended up liking it and then I ended up listening to a bunch of a bunch of You like look at a picture of her and just cry That's you know what it is so we people don't talk about this like men we We're not typically not as Expressive emotionally as women are that's just a that's just a fact a stereotype. It's a stereotype but holds But there's some some some science to support that However, we're also Like taught that showing emotions other than anger Is unacceptable. It's embarrassing like nobody wants to Think about it this way for those you're listening right now. We're like, no, it's okay. If a guy cries Bullshit imagine if you're in a restaurant You don't want to see that and you see a woman kind of crying in her hands and imagine how that makes you feel It makes you feel sad, right? You feel sad you want to talk to her now Imagine if you see a grown man doing that how uncomfortable You feel seeing that you think the world's like collapsing because society doesn't make it acceptable So what happens is man is we bury it and we bury it and we bury it and then when we finally give ourselves permission It's like It's like vocal dude It's like I had like redness in my face for a couple days Dude, I had a trainer that port this dude was so nice. I'm not gonna say his name great guy who rented space for me And he was going through a divorce around the same time uh that well before I did right So he was going through a divorce. My marriage was on it was kind of Like Coming to the end, but I still was married and I remember him He would come and talk to me about it and I you know being him would talk to each other because I was I thought for sure mine was probably gonna end and he was telling me how about how sad he was but he was He wasn't very expressive. He was typical guy like he's not gonna show talking to another guy He's not gonna show any emotion So he's coming in and you know, he's doing this thing and he's always smiling with his clients And but when they're gone, you can tell something's bothering him Well one day I guess is why finally was like she sent him the papers like and when you're going through a divorce There's different I experienced this too. There's different phases of like where you're facing reality Like step one move out of the house. That's a big shock Step two, like we're not gonna work this out. That's a big shock And then the paper when you actually get the paper and you sign it That's a big shock and then when you get the thing back from the county that says you are divorced divorced Those are all different levels So she sent him the paperwork to sign like she's serious like a hundred percent now There's no doubt because I think in his mind he was thinking Maybe we can I don't know so anyway He comes in and he's talking to his client and he's late He's like 10 minutes late And I hear him talking to her because it was a small facility and he's saying like Oh, you know, I got the paperwork today. I got you know, I signed it and looks like it's it's a done deal and She's like, oh, you know and you know women very empathetic and she's like, oh, I'm so sorry She's like and she gives him a hug and so she's hugging him and he kind of tries to break away for a second But she holds him if he broke away. He would have like he would have been alive. He would have made it alive She goodwill hunting his ass dude So he's he's in the front he's in the front of the that's your fault exactly So she's in the front of the gym with him and she kind of hugged him And you can see he kind of lets go with his arms and so now his arms are at his sides But she's holding him still and she starts rubbing his back And she's like it's okay. Like it's okay. It's okay. And then all of a sudden He starts crying a little bit and then she starts like squeezing him And then he loses his shit And it is I it is very unnerving to hear a grown man Ball, you know, I don't like he was like And for like five minutes Loud screaming crying And and the whole gym was like, what do we do? And I remember thinking to myself like you're just doing a curl in the corner like No, dude, I remember feeling I remember thinking like this is wow, this feels weird You know, I don't I dealt with a few guys that actually cried in sessions that I trained them before and every time, you know It had to deal with uh stress work and sex life with their with their wife their partner It was it was something that you know I didn't have hundreds of people that I dealt with like this But there's definitely a handful of guys that were 40s 50s And it was when I first started to realize how common it was For that to Actually drive people apart in like a marriage where You know guys driven his whole life goes to school gets his degree gets a really good job Works 12 hours a day that girl that he's had his eye on all right provides the house They had the kids the family never with that and then it's like never has sex Like six months go by and they never have sex And it's like and they have no drive for it and there's no Yeah, and they don't know and they don't know how to get it back like that would happen a lot dude I had that happen more often than I didn't realize how how common that was helpless Right with with with men extras and I remember helping them connect that to diet and exercise and training and how much that all helped and Man, I've seen some dudes break down over there. Yeah, so I I don't have a I don't for me personally I'm pretty aware of it. I'm not I don't have an issue like I'll I'll definitely tear up For good things. I don't really I've never I don't really bald in a long. Fuck dude. I'm tearing up like crazy these days Because you had you I'm all estrogen right now, man. Oh, I watch a commercial. I bet I was watching some the other night all by myself and he treated fall asleep and I caught my what movie was it? Fuck. I can't remember what movie it was It's a movie. I've seen like a hundred times though. You know a good movie. He's off commando It definitely wasn't like a wonder it wasn't like something fucking super like Sad like that, but it was definitely an emotional movie and I was by myself at night and I'm all sucked into I had my headphones on actually I was listening to it. I wouldn't keep her awake. Yeah, and uh Whoa, fuck dude. Where's that coming from? My kids will do that to me if my kids do anything at all It doesn't even have to be anything great. It could be anything my daughter the other day We gave her we at the dollar store. They said they sell like Christmas cards like generic Christmas cards So we bought a box and my daughter's like, oh, can I write some cards? Well, yeah, sure no problem So she puts in the card like Merry Christmas, but I love you and like makes a little envelope and then hands it to me and I'm like You made me a card You know, I'm like I saw I saw my dad cry once And it was just senior dad cries tough, bro. It was difficult because my dad's a bit of a crier My dad is never only one only one time. He's a big soft. Yeah, I only saw my dad cry one time and it was My sister was in the hospital She had some health stuff going on and she was a kid And she had the oxygen tube, you know and everything and she's laying in bed And we were all there and my dad like rushed from work And he walked in the room And I saw the look on his face and I saw he started to tear up and he just turned around and walked out That's all I saw of him crying But I knew my dad was crying that was weird as a kid To see that it felt so strange to see my dad. Oh, man. That'll make you cry it right away Seeing a dad seeing your dad cry will make you make a kid cry. I only know why you're crying. I'm crying Yeah, right My dad crying and I remember just like start crying with him. Like, what are we crying about? That's like the most I've cried is because somebody's crying like Your dad's crying Halfway into crying to have no I have no idea why we're crying. Oh, yeah You just wait I think that's funny though. Isn't that crazy how that how that you can be impacted like that? Literally, I take on that being a young young boy young boy seeing your father cry Could make you cry without even knowing why he's crying. No because it's because it never happened a trip Yeah, it never happens. You don't cry that much at all But that's such a powerful moment for you to see that that it makes you cry because of what they represent They're just the stoic sort of figure in your mind, you know that like has everything together And if they're like not together, it's like, oh, no the world's not together. What's happening? I think you're right. I think that's what it is. It's like all of a sudden this guy is falling No, my there was one one going through my divorce. I remember my kids, you know I would talk to them about it and whatever and you know kids are funny the way they process things So they wouldn't want to talk about it at some point Then they'd you know, bring it up randomly or whatever and I'll sit with my kids and we're watching a movie together And you know, my son looks at me goes, you're a really good dad, you know that and I was like Oh, that would make me cry. Oh my god. That would make me cry because you had to know where like that Yeah, you're a really good dad, you know, I'm like, and if it wasn't followed up with a dad I want a new xbox or anything like that like that would be like oh, he didn't have to yeah, you know what I mean? Next day brand new xbox I am a good dad. Here's some shit. Here's some cool stuff Yeah Anyway, yeah, I've had moments like it. I'll come home like we've been on a trip or something like I missed you so much. Like, you know, I kept thinking where's dad and I was like I'm gonna go in the bathroom. 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So I can't wait till we get it so you guys can try it because I think it's there I'm gonna say I think it's one of their better one of their best products I think they hit it out of the park. Well, I I use the green I'm using the shawna says that they're like selling like crazy. Oh, are they? Yeah I'm a huge fan of the green juice. Yeah, I'm using it twice a day right now Just because of the osmagonda and then I just I just add a pill on top of it too Oh for the to get your testosterone. Yeah, because you want me to go three three times a day is just fucking hard, man No, it's not. Yes, it is dude to make to make a shit. Yeah, you make it sound like I said like All right, Adam's going to do I should I should climb it's all this mountain every day. You're taking a pill. I'm keep it. No, there's powder It's powder and oh my bad And a dropper you got me you got me with a dropper You got me with a pill and then you got me with the powder. Yeah, I'm having you take Cordyceps mixing it all right and osmagonda and I think tribulus I had you take to try and support your body's natural testosterone back up But you're you're doing okay, man. You're hanging in there, dude I'm hanging in it's rough, but I'm hanging in there right now Right now and I we had a ton of people that were asking in the protocol And I will give everyone the protocol when I when I put together like the consistency of a solid protocol Because what I'm not you don't want to advocate something's not working Exactly and I'm not gonna bullshit people on stuff. Here's a deal like we and I say this on the show all the time All these fucking supplements all these things that I'm taking that are natural tests If I'm not doing the big stuff like sleeping really good Taking care of stress in my life fucking training like nothing's gonna increase my my testosterone more than those Nothing. Yeah, good point. So I'm not gonna bullshit you that right now That's a that's a big focus for me right now Like the hardest thing that I'm having I like just wanting to lift and be consistent And I know it's the best thing for me. Isn't that crazy You know, it's the best thing but because you have low testosterone right now, you don't know You don't want to know it's a mother fuck. Well, you probably don't imagine you don't get a pump Probably it's hard to get a pump. You don't feel connection to your muscles like you did before fatigued fast. I'm weak as fuck Yeah, my body's not responding. So I'm I'm I'm not responding. Like normally just trying to slow the decline. Yeah It's it is it's I mean it's it's definitely are you doing anything diet wise like have you bumped up your Yeah, have you done bumped up your fat and cholesterol? Yeah, my fats and cholesterol pretty high I typically run. I mean I stay on a ever since we ran keto and did that I've my pro macro profile is forever a moderate protein intake a high fat and then You know intermittently I have these carbohydrates, which I again I'll admit right now with the holidays of traveling everything like that. That's why too. I haven't you know told people a protocol Right now I'm just trying to be consistent about everything that I'm taking everything that I'm doing And then I'll be able to report back and say coconut oil, bro Throw coconut because it's got those saturated fats that have been shown to boost So we've got Doug just got the coconut oil from the private market So just start putting that on fucking everything man Throw in your coffee. This coconut coconut oil. Everything. I'm drinking coconut right now that shit on everything A tablespoon in my b.a. Or whatever the hell you call it. Is this ba ba? How do you say this? Ba yi Is it is it Thai is it Thai language almost sounds Vietnamese, but I don't know Sour de cup tastes all good. Isn't that what they say in Thailand? Sour de cup. What does that mean? You're welcome Sour de cup Okay, so see that's what I used to say. I would say sour de cup And my girlfriend said I was to say it faster though. She said I was making sour de cup. She was yeah She said I was wrong. Oh, see that's when I was in Thailand. Okay. Mm-hmm. I don't know why they don't like me That's why they put the that's why they give me food boys battle lacks their their language Exactly. Give me the bird bring on the estrogen bird This clause brought to you by organifi For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge Try organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organifi.com That's or gani fi.com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20 off at checkout Our first question is from jemma sedgeman You guys talk a lot about the importance of weight training and although I completely agree as a triathlete It's very difficult to fit it all in What sort of strength training would you recommend for someone who can feasibly only manage two sessions a week? We've talked about this. Yeah, we've talked about this with when you're an athlete your sport comes first Yeah, 100% like that is your priority and it should not your your weight training should not Cut into that it should complement that. No, I I experienced this personally when I did jujitsu years ago I remember I would train three to four days a week which Is a lot of jujitsu because the jujitsu class was two and a half hours The last hour of that class or so is all sparring. It's very strenuous on the body And on top of that so I do jujitsu three or four days a week then I would lift Three or four days a week So some days I do jujitsu and lift because I thought I got to get all my lifting in and the only thing that I succeeded in doing Was fucking overtraining my body right and I sucked at jujitsu I didn't get performance Benefits from jujitsu and weight training until I cut my weight training down to once or twice a week So then I'd go to you know, I'd do my jujitsu four days a week and I'd lift weights Once maybe twice a week at the most so if you're a triathlete First off if you can only manage two sessions a week That sounds to me like you're just you're trying to squeeze in as much as you possibly can You might even be overdoing it once once a week would be plenty when I'm playing ball It's once to two times a week Well, if like when I was and I'm just like a I'm just like a fucking Breckley guy I'm not even like of trying to be pro or fucking to be consider myself a triathlete Like you consider your if you consider yourself a triathlete I know the the training that's required to excel at your sport It again the weight training should compliment it shouldn't be something like oh, it's like I got a force I do however feel like and I know some sports are pretty much year-round You know and people just like keep this this habit up of like, you know training consistently Like five six days a week like doing their sport like crazy. Whereas, you know, I I feel it's it's nothing but beneficial to go through a few months of just You know strength training and like going through an actual offseason and designating a time period where you're not competing as much Or you're you're barely competing if that and you're really focusing and honing in on Building the body back up, you know focusing on just delivering that strength signal to its maximal capacity And then, you know timing it out. So now we're going to ramp back up and then get it It's give and take it's give and take no matter how we how we drum it up or look at it Any sport is not ideal for the body and is and you just have to understand that and be okay with that And for every bit that you scale back and you introduce weight training Your body's going to thank you and you're going to benefit your sport May suffer from it a little bit if you start to scale back on the the amount of training the amount of months Like just insane that you're doing and you're going to start implementing an offseason training program Well, guess what your body is going to benefit for sure from that You may not it may not translate into making you a better athlete necessarily it could if done correctly Yeah, because a try triathlons are insane. You have three separate skills Yes, you need to be have endurance and strength or whatever, but it's three Very different skills. Yeah running Swimming and biking and it's a lot of all three It's a lot of all three always just like hammering your body from all kinds of different directions and and all three of those There's a lot of technique that's involved with all of them cycling Oh, yeah Cycling by itself you could train all the time as a cyclist and You could do it for years and still find ways to improve The same is true for running and especially for swimming And so if you're an actual competitive triathlete, you're probably training a lot Uh throughout the week you're probably doing I don't know a couple hours a day almost Of something because you're either swimming a lot or you're running a lot or you're biking a lot It's just a lot of stuff. So you want to throw resistance training on the on top of that Well, uh, maybe once a week and I don't think the goal of your resistance training should be Especially if you're in season if you're competing the goal isn't to get stronger Just good luck pushing your body with weights While you're doing all that you're gonna actually set yourself up for failure. What I would do Is in season the resistance training is completely mobility faced Based, excuse me. I was just gonna say trying to make your joints bulletproof like like really reinforcing the integrity of your joints Because that's what's keeping you intact I would take I would take a foundational day from performance and a mobility day from performance And those would be my my goal for two that's right. So client of mine I would say take one day from performance and take one one day from performance the mobility session And those should be your target today. So one day you're really doing a lot of strength type You know multi-planar type movements full body and then the other day you're doing all flexibility dynamic movements And when you're off season when you're out of season when you're not competing first off You should be training less anyway so if you're if you're an athlete if you're triathlete a triathlete And you compete and you're in competition season And then you've done your competition if you're not scaling back on your training afterwards You're you're setting yourself up for failure straight up like you're an idiot You need to have an off season and an on season When you're off season, you're training much much less. You're doing much less volume of training That's when I would put a little bit more emphasis on Resistance training because you have the time to do it You have the recovery ability now to do it and because it's the right time to try and build a little bit of strength Again, you're not going crazy because you're still doing your other you know biking swimming and running But uh, that is the time when you start to add strength when you're in season Getting ready for your competition It is it should be mobility more for preservation. That's it a hundred percent If you try to combine the two you push weights and you push training for Triathlons, uh, you're asking for trouble. All right. Our next question is from dylan austin Someone told me that adaptation isn't as important as progressive overload He essentially called it bro science and claimed that you could stay low rep as long as you're adding weight And get all the results you desire true or false. Yeah, so I like this question Yeah, but he was obviously talking to do you had to take off right now. Yeah, I got to step out for a little bit All right, we'll read the next two questions when we're there. I like this question I like this question a lot I like the fact that whoever the knucklehead is that you that told you this that claimed that adaptation is bro science Is a knucklehead how do they even adaptation? Is it important as progressive overload? What those are two different things if anything if anything gets the other way around anyways, so Wrong, but where he's right you could you could stay in that and all and just consistently Just put weight on and put weight on and weight on and you could absolutely progress your body Absolutely could you could do a lot of guys do that in strength a lot of your strength training Athletes never ever leave five repetitions And and and they continually just add weight add weight add weight But I mean we've done enough there's enough studies now to show that there's a better way Yeah, and there's a there's a much better way now strength athletes periodize. They still they still phase They it's not like they may not go to supersets and higher reps But they do they manipulate percentage. They manipulate other cute variables 75 75 80 They're really ever working over 80% Yeah, if you're always focused on progressive overload and it just You know always thinking about ramping up the entire time You are going to eventually hurt yourself and develop some really bad recruitment patterns you see this with lifters who just focus on Squats deadlifts and bench press and their weights go up and you can see their mechanics You can see and you can call them out. You can literally say Yeah, you're probably this person's probably gonna get hurt at some point and they do As far as getting results is concerned If you're in powerlifting then definitely follow powerlifting programming Okay, if you're specifically an athlete for powerlifting if your goal is to build muscle and build strength overall You're gonna do better in the long term by Changing rep ranges and changing all the variables and getting your body because your body will okay Your body always adapts fast this when the stimulus is new This is just a fact anytime you change something You're you're gonna notice a quick change in your body if you stay in something for a long time You will notice your body will start progressing if it was as easy as adding weight to the bar Then you it would be easy everybody would be hercules by now The fucking effort for 20 years of lifting if I just added five pounds every fucking two months Your bench press will be at five thousand pounds. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't work that way Well, there's I mean there's the skill factor of like you get really good at a skill when you do it consistently and frequently And so, you know, that's definitely the appeal on that end of it is like these very specific lifts I'm gonna get I'm gonna hone in on the mechanics. I'm gonna get really good at this But you know, like they could do a lot better if they Intermittently step out of that protocol and they go into another adaptation 100 the meatball that says this has to has to be Get them has to be a fucking powerlifter and only a powerlifter. Yeah, that's all they do Yeah, and that's all you do then that's whatever But I'll tell you what I'll take the fucking Pepsi challenge all day on somebody who lifts like that versus somebody who falls old reference, bro Is that all you have a lot of most people get it though, right? You guys get it, don't you? No, I just you know because I've been on a roll lately. I just want to acknowledge that You guys are capable or two. Yeah, but we're not on a 20 year old's podcast right now We're on our podcast sort of a 35 year olds are listening so they get it, right? So, but I mean if you if you take two people heads up, you know But just starting and you say okay for the next three months You're going to or even three to six months however long you want to stretch it out You're going to run a maps protocol and then this person's going to purely just train for strength or a powerlifting meat At the end of those six months Maybe the guy on that's been training for the powerlifting me might edge out the guy strength wise But as far as changing the way you look and your overall Strength your overall muscle your overall body fat loss the person who run that actually periodizes and underlates their programming Will fucking smash and there is there is specific programming for powerlifting weightlifting And there are but but again they periodize I don't know any power lifters who are successful who just constantly progressively overload Yeah, the person who answered this is like a meatball guy who follows Like power lifting protocol and they and he doesn't even really probably understand how it works So here's what I see when I see people who talk like this Do you know how they progressively overload because I've known a lot of people like this were like, oh Periodized I just keep adding weight to the bar and I just keep pushing it Do you know what they keep pushing the amount of steroids that they take? That's what that's what I see I see guys who boom their body no no, it's no joke like guys who their body will plateau Right and instead of changing the programming cc keep it real. That's it. They just add more gear. Guess what that'll work Yeah, it works. That works too. That is another uh, And right, you know, yeah, no, um, I I tell you what your best bet Uh for long-term success is to Phase your workouts. It is all about adaptation. I don't know why this person says adaptation isn't important. That's That's exactly what you want getting stronger building those are all adaptations Well, explain what adaptation is because obviously this person doesn't fully understand what it what it or whoever is adaptation Is just your body responding to a signal that you that you send it so it adapts, right? Yeah, getting it gets better at whatever that is, right? It can get worse too. It can. Yeah, it can adapt downwards too So if I stop working out my body adapts to not working out by reducing its muscle mass No longer needs it becomes more efficient with its calories as a result and all that stuff So no adaptation is what it's all about. Well progressive overload is technically adaptation to progressive overload means Well, because you're but if you're progressively overloading your bodies having to adapt to the new New amount of load that that's why I'm saying that's it's weird that they put it stupidly Yeah, first question should be a flag right away. Whoever's giving the information. What's the next one next question Who's gonna read that you want me to read that I can't read so daniel daniel cf 2000 what's your opinion on physical therapists instructing clients to take some time off completely from the gym Do you think less severe injuries such as shin splints should be rehabbed while continuing to work out in the gym? Or should there be weeks of complete rest? This is a good question, too Because this is something to your body you do get you do get some pts You do get some doctors that give this recommendation of staying out of the gym completely now You got to remember that when these guys and girls give these recommendations that It's it's solely based off of liable. That's every liability Right. I if I'm a pt or I'm a doctor And I have somebody who comes in with whatever injury or condition that they have That I'm concerned that they're right. They could hurt themselves more Right. You're assuming people don't have common sense. Right. So they're going to lean on You know taking it safe like because in their the way they're looking at it is like I care less if this person puts on five or ten pounds of fat while they're off the gym for a month I care more about them not injuring themselves more than they've already injured themselves. And so That's where this recommendation goes because no, it would be ideal to be in the gym and moving now what you're doing in the gym That's everything. It is everything. That's it because because there are two sides of this So I'm going to play devil's advocate with physical therapists. I had one who worked with me Who was exceptional best physical therapist I'd ever seen And sometimes until dr. Brink. Yeah physical therapist He's a movement specialist. He's on another level. Yeah, as he says. Yeah, he's on a complete another level Sometimes First off it depends on the injury if it's an acute injury you get you have to take time off you bust your knee You can't you probably shouldn't move it if it's inflamed and you've heard it really bad But let's say you have chronic shoulder pain Um, and you're doing rehab exercises And you go to the gym and you work with a trainer who doesn't understand what to do with your shoulder That's a problem. The other thing too is sometimes you need to stop working out So that you can change the recruitment pattern before you go back into working out So if I have a poor recruitment pattern that's causing my hip pain And my therapist or my movement specialist says hey listen stop squatting for a little while We're just going to focus on Changing your recruitment pattern, then I'll have you start squatting again That makes sense because if I'm going to keep hammering my body with heavy squats While doing exercises and movements to change my recruitment patterning It can be very difficult because the heavy squats might Override the correctional movement because it's a louder signal Just like sometimes I would tell someone to stop running So we can correct issues with their ankles and feet and then have them slowly start running again with new patterning So I can see the The rationale behind that now studies will show that movement Actually with many injuries many types of facilitate recovery. It makes you recover faster. Yeah, absolutely. It's logical sense More blood flow more oxygen more nutrients. That's what the fucking muscle needs or whatever your the injury needs to get recover faster Yeah, what you're just telling your your mind and your central nervous system and everything else that this is a priority Like we need to maintain and sustain this movement. So let's you know Protect and create this this pattern and re-establish this pattern now the mistake that a lot of people make Is the same one that I made which was I remember firing my PT Because I thought it was crap what they were giving me and I could do this myself better and why am I paying for this? So I I rehab myself And then what I did was I was so excited about my progress that I started pushing it, you know I have acl mcl surgery, you know less than three months. I'm doing single leg box jumps Like I had no bit You know I'm saying like no business doing that right away, but ramped it up, right You know, but that was the the young full of piss and vinegar of me that like is you know trying to prove a point that Ah, I so resilient. Yeah, I could do this better I'll be back faster than you know, and then I re-injured myself it set me back like six months So I think the the reason why they tell most people to take that complete time off is the fear of You not knowing how much to push and making sure that you're doing the right thing So they're always in a boat on the safe side But if you know what you're doing or you have somebody who's guiding you in the right direction then Absolutely being in there and and working towards that or working through that in the gym. I think is is important But yeah, but especially if you're doing I mean, here's the thing to rehab exercises or exercise Right, I used to get clients all the time that will come to me and they'd have an injury And we wouldn't work out in the gym, but it would be rehab based So I mean and again there's a lot of I hate to say bad trainers out there Where imagine this imagine if you had your client you're helping them With the fact that they have a bad shoulder They have back pain and then they have another trainer they go train with You're gonna be a lot. You know, I guarantee you We would kind of lean towards going okay You probably shouldn't work out with the other trainer because I don't know what they're gonna do with you Right. I don't know if they understand this injury or whatever Well psychologically like it like rehabbing like exercises don't feel like they carry a lot of weight for a lot of people Like they're like, ah, well This is just what I have to do to get back to like actually doing something awesome Right and it's like you have to you have to like really check yourself on that and Understand that the right dose is everything and so right now This is the right dose and this is what's getting you to adapt and get back even stronger if you do it right You know where I see a lot of mistakes and rehab and this was also again Why I let go of my PT was I was in this facility where there was I think I think there was six or eight of us going at the same time, right? And there was a head PT and they had one or two assistants underneath them And all of us were rehabbing different injuries. You got a hip over here to the left You got the ACL MCL me over here You got someone with a shoulder condition over here and what this what this clinic does Is they come over they take a guy like me and I'm over here doing ball squats You know, here's a ball put against there do ball squats They put a timer next to me do this for two minutes Go to the next guy tell him what to do and we're not even critiquing. No And and so what I know right away, that's our medical system Well, this is fucking crazy to me, right? So and this is a fucking huge issue right here So I'm doing these ball squats. Of course. I just tore my ACL MCL on my left side So what do you fucking think happens when I do a ball squat? My body shifts to the side that's dominant and doesn't feel hurt Right. And so my squad is saving immediately, right now. I'm aware of that. So I'm like Shaking you're not the average person, right? I'm shaking like a leaf I'm trying to know the average person is going up and down up and down up and down And they're letting their body take the path that's easiest for them, right? Which your body is going to take the stronger non-injured side And overcompensate and then now you've created poor recruitment patterns And now you've got a fucking imbalance that ends up causing pain later on That was what made me walk out from a facility. I'm like, oh, this is ridiculous This is why it's unfortunate This is why the doctor clients that I had when I was a trainer used to send me all their patients They would actually send them to me over physical therapy Because you give one-on-one attention. Well, and I'm not bound. I'm not bound by mechanics I'm not bound by insurance. I'm not bound by any of that stuff. I can spend lots of time with them I can progressively overload them. Yeah, and they just got better. They just had better success as a result All right. So the next question is from joe buns. Hey, joe buns. You get some buns How do you guys balance science with anecdote? While studies can have useful information if they aren't practical in real-world situations Anecdote would seem to trump studies Let me tell you why I like this particular question so And bear with me. I do like this question too the the in the past now anecdote is not evidence So an anecdote would be You know, my great-grandfather, you know chain smoke since he was the age of 13 every day smoke to cigarette every single day And would chain smoke literally light one cigarette to the other one and then pass it in his mouth Let's gangster and he lived till he was you won't even wait. You won't even wait for the other cigarette to go out Everybody just got keep it going. He would smoke while eating dinner. He was just always smoking And his cigarette, you know, he said he said his bed his sheets on fire a couple times because he'd fall asleep with He lived till he was 92 years old So anecdotally cigarettes fucking, you know, they're great for longevity, but it's not evidence Obviously, we know that cigarettes are bad for you. So we've always said anecdote is not evidence. However Yeah, you say something you've said it before I don't know if you're gonna write use and I think it's awesome Is that antidote is normally what propels us to actually do the research anecdote drives research Right. It drives research and what's cool about if we didn't have antidote first We wouldn't have research There's no reason to research something if people aren't coming out saying hey, this is fucking me up I tried this and whoa it did this to me. That's why that's right. And what's cool about today is in the past When anecdote would drive research the anecdote would have to get so big And so loud that finally scientists would hear about it and try and by the time it got to this point Happens a lot faster now with the internet way faster because now I can go online and I can You know if I have rheumatoid arthritis in the past like where am I going to meet? You know a hundred or five hundred thousand people with rheumatoid arthritis and to hear their anecdote I couldn't I couldn't do it before I mean maybe going to convention or something But they didn't exist like what would I do today? I can go on the internet And if I have rheumatoid arthritis there's forums that I can join and I can read anecdote from tens of thousands of people with rheumatoid arthritis and it's going to drive me To reading about and researching things that I may not normally have heard of so I have personal experience with this I have My my godson who's also my cousin He has Crohn's disease. I've talked about him before and his mom my aunt is a registered dietitian very smart lady great mother hard worker so But unfortunately her western medicine education with diet, you know being a dietitian Provided zero answers for Crohn's disease. In fact the the western medicine model of treating Crohn's disease is anti, you know, you know steroids and or You know medications that are like chemotherapy to suppress the immune system. Yeah, and that's it. There's really nothing else We don't understand it. Let's just kill it. There's really nothing else, right? Yeah But you know we have the internet she goes online and she joins these forums And she starts reading anecdote from all these other people with Crohn's disease And she reads and sees that all these people are talking about something called the carbohydrate specific diet And this is a diet that similar to paleo very similar paleo Where they avoid all grains and they do a few other things and I'm not super informed on the details, but She learned about it from the forums now. There was no research supporting it There was almost no research maybe some animal research or you could stretch out a little bit and But there was not so it's all anecdote But because she's on this forum and she sees thousands of people talking about it She's like, let's give this a shot My my cousin went into full remission By doing this carbohydrate specific diet and today, you know, five years later. There's now Super, you know, like like big-time research going into These type of diets for Crohn's disease So because of the internet What I love about the internet is it makes you could you could be a part of a very small minority group But when you go on the online all of it like if you're a furry, you're a fucking like nobody's a furry, right? But there's there are online forums with 500 000 people who are furries because worldwide just furry feasts Yeah, worldwide there's a there's enough of you guys to join online right to meet up So you could go online and you could start to read anecdotes. This is why this is why full body Workouts and increasing the frequency you're training is now the fucking thing when when mine pump first came out We were talking about full body workouts maps programs are designed around them and we got laughed at It was all about body parts splits everybody said, oh, that's that's for beginners That's old school. It's not as effective. Now. You got Jim Stepani talking about full body workouts of superior Bodybuilding.com is the one, you know promoting it. Why? Because Online on the fitness forums people are talking about it. They're like, look, I don't know what you can't deny it anymore I don't know what these bodybuilders are talking about, you know, body parts splits I'm doing a full body workout and I gained five pounds of muscle and I gained eight pounds of muscle Next thing you know, it's like what everybody's talking about online and enough anecdote Is evidence in my opinion and it's driving science So how do we how do we balance the two of them for me the way I balance is Every any and every study I always take with a grain of salt Every it's like to me. I look at it like a great compass or a great place to start out for one Right. So because you have to know that that's true and and most studies are short term, you know So there is always going to be and there's always exceptions to the rule Very what I think the number of studies that are duplicated are like 30 something percent So it's rare. So most of them can't even be replicated Right. Most can't even be replicated exactly the same. So yeah, no, I think studies give us a nice A nice kind of direction. Yeah direction to be looking at something But I actually I think antidote for antidote actually at that point is ways as heavy If not more heavy than when there's enough of it. So comparing the two. Yeah, that's how I make decisions Yeah, when you get enough of it like another good example I love this one was when I when my kids when my son was first born I asked the doctor he had a cough And I told the doctor hey Honey, should I give him some honey? You know, he was like one or two first cough And I thought I told her I said, you know, I know it's a it's a it's an old wives tale But should I give him honey and she goes no, they've actually found in studies now that honey contains a compound That's that acts on the part of the brain that causes you to cough So suppresses the cough and so it definitely works now, which has been passed on for, you know Generations, it's all anecdote because 10 years 10 years before that the doctor would they would laugh at you No, honey, that's an old wives tale But there's some evidence now now there's evidence suggesting it And so I don't have any problem with anecdote now when I have an issue with anecdote is when anecdote is driven by marketing companies Which they can also notice behind they can also drive studies, but a lot of them drive anecdote like hey, this guy lost 30 pounds doing You know our special program or whatever right right or when it's one person, you know, who's having experience That's a really good point. I mean, how I mean, how do we filter out or how we how are we objective with with What and how do I mean? I guess a lot of that comes with just experience It reminds me of when the ify m crave and the uh cheat meals all came Like I could wrap us I could attach studies to show why having a cheat meal is good for you I could wrap studies around and show you why you know following your macros is good for you But I know from my experience from the thousands of people that I train That allowing someone or telling scheduling them a cheat day in there is not successful Not long term that what that ends up doing is it ends up giving them this critical battle It is it can't kick and when and when you've trained enough people you realize that the psychological piece is much bigger than the Macro exercise and all the other pieces And so when you understand that and I wouldn't understand that had I not trained all these people Then you can refute some of this science that's out there that's like, okay Well, you're right The science does show that in a controlled perfect environment if you eat this way you can't lose what you can do this But I know After the tons of people that I've trained that nine out of ten people that I give that stick to it Yeah, won't be able to stick to it will create bad habits from it may have some auto immune I mean you're gonna get all this other stuff with it. So yeah, I think a lot of the Objectivity from us comes from just the experience of you know, seeing enough people and when you so when I see a study Or I see something come out Right away. I'm gonna apply it to like, okay the people that I've dealt with seeing this before Right. Have I seen that? Have I seen this before? What does this look like? I mean even like with the the ketogenic diet I mean those that have been listening to this show for a very long time remember I mean it was I was real quick to come out I came out and said how awesome it was and then I was real quick to come out and counter it because I saw Right away the tendencies that it could lead to like of of bad still eating bad So yeah ketogenic's so great all kinds of studies around it yada yada yada, but then at the same time too That if taking people in and making them only eat these types of foods Could also hurt them with their food rotation and getting other things that they need which for me I know that the average person has a hard time with that Well, I'm always skeptical with a one solution answer, right? Do you know what I mean? Like I just I can't accept it. It's always depends. It just never It never works out like I mean one plus one You hope is going to be two always, right? But that's just not the case with anything. Well, it is in math But not in science not science right math is that way science isn't that way Science is not always one plus one. Well context matters especially with nutrition and exercise, right? There's so many variables. So it's like I just want to see You know percentages I can get behind, you know, like this has worked X amount of times Like we've been able to replicate this so many times like I'll pay attention to those and be like, okay That looks like they're in the right direction. You know, I honestly in a perfect world You you combine the two of them, right? Yeah, and if you if you see a study that proves this I'm looking for antidote that complements that or contradicts it or both And then to get collectively I'm looking at all of it I'm looking at okay thousands of people have had success following this protocol negatives are pretty slim Then that's that's decent right and and sometimes studies are done and you're like why why did we fund this study? It was there was a study I posted it in the forum It was a study on women and gay men women and gay men prefer Or more attracted to men who display higher Signs of testosterone with more muscle and who are a little bit more manly I'm like really did they have to fucking pay for a study for that? Of course, like it's so stupid. There was another study. This was a government funded study Like I'm gonna find it. I'm gonna find it because it was shared on the phone. Oh boy. Nobody waste money like government I'll tell you there was a study where they studied the the like the the mechanics of parking lots and they were trying to figure out A way to make parking lots more efficient And so they studied how do parking lots fill up? So if you have a store, so let me ask you guys this you guys You don't need to do a study if I have a store here Which parking spaces are going to fill up first maybe in the front? Yeah They spent bro. They spent like 700 thousand dollars on the study and they concluded that could have gone to curing camps Yeah, they concluded the parking space is closest to the store Filled up first and then they moved progressively further away Like get the fuck out of here with that Anyway, check it out. We have the best fitness videos on the planet Actually, we just won an award that we invented. We actually gave ourselves an award This is also the final month that somebody can get involved on the forum for a one-time fee. That's right. Oh, yeah So mind pump tv That's our youtube channel if you want to get on our forum pay a fee once Be in there for life next month that changes forever. 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