 Locked Talks Radio. Tune into N5D Radio, the next dimension in radio, where we bring you the hottest, in-depth, spiritual, metaphysical, esoteric conversations and news. Get ready for spirit, body and mind to expand in three, two, one, one, one. Greetings and welcome to Quantum Healing with Candice. This show focuses on humankind's new understanding and acceptance of the quantum world and the role that consciousness plays in shaping our individual and our collective reality. Today is October 9, 2015, and phew, I believe that Mercury went direct today and hopefully the massive confusion and most of the chaos of the last week is now behind us. Before I welcome my guests this evening, I would like to take a moment to thank Greg Prescott and Michelle Walling of N5D Radio, who support and sponsor this show. Thank you, you lovely people. You can't know how sponsoring this show has already changed so many lives. This program is based upon the foundation of the work of the late great Dolores Cannon, who was my teacher, my mentor and my friend. It was my honor to be trained by her and work closely with her for several years before her death. I'm the creator and the manager of her original support forum community for practitioners that will soon be moving into its eighth year. My guests today are two lovely ladies and colleagues, powerhouse practitioners of QHHT, which is quantum healing hypnosis, which is what Dolores's method is now called. We have Barbara Becker, who's a quantum healing hypnosis technique level two practitioner, and she's based in Arizona. After a near-fail accident in 1986 and a meet-your-guardian angel meditation 10 years later, Barbara discovered that she's a healer. She became a Reiki master in the Yusui tradition, hey, guess what, Barbara, me too, and she's an angel communicator. After years of metaphysical studies, meditations, workshops, and her personal healings, she received a shamanic opening ceremony in spring of 2003. And on the night of that ceremony, she began speaking a healing mathematical star language not found on earth. We have to ask her about that one. She began channeling healing for groups of people with a language and by moving her arms and hands and air and speaking and taking to a person in her past life, healing them instantly and bringing them back into the present moment, this is all done unconsciously. Barbara has an interesting background. She's a retired critical care and emergency room nurse. She holds an associate degree in nursing and a bachelor's of science degree in business and Barbara's world travel over 24 years has taken her to places in Asia, Europe, South America, Australia, New Zealand, and she's been opening Stargates. And I know she's also traveled to Arkansas because I met her this past summer. Barbara published her book, Enclosure, a spiritual autobiography in 2012 and in it she shares her journey of being a skeptic. Really Barbara, you were a skeptic and who she is today with stories of miraculous healings including reversal of death. Boy, there's another one I want to ask you about Barbara. Barbara writes and publishes a monthly blog and newsletter, lots of articles. She trants channels for higher self-known as the white one, collective of beings who come from the great central sun creator source. She offers the service to the public through her monthly star energy telephonic conferences where participants receive healing and answers to their personal questions. And that's just one of our guests tonight, that's Barbara Becker. I'm going to say hi to Barbara, hold on, let's see. Working on the tech issues here. Hi Barbara. Hi, I'm here. Well, I'm glad that you are. I know. Yeah, she is, I'm sorry. My assistant is helping me and making sure our second guest is on and she is, but I'm going to introduce her after just saying a very brief hello to Barbara. I'm glad you're on, Barbara. You know, Mercury was supposed to be done, but I don't know if it is or not. We're having performances here. Yeah, we're making the most of it and we're just sliding in until the end tomorrow. So that's good, that's okay. Is it really tomorrow? I actually thought the end was like today, so I got that wrong. Yeah, well then, it's supposed to stop today, but then we have like a little transition of it diminishing over the next week. That's what the astrologers tell us. Okay, well let me, before we continue talking, let me introduce our second guest and that is Holly Duckworth. Holly is also an amazing quantum healing hypnosis practitioner and she practices with aware care in Durango, Colorado. She has a PhD in psychology. Wow, Holly, a PhD. And she is a retired psychotherapist in the state of Colorado. Holly was trained by Dolores Cannon as well and has a level two certificate. So Holly came to QHT through a tragic situation with her son. He was briefly incarcerated for a DUI and during this incarceration, he started reading Convoluted Universe 4 and told Holly about the book and Dolores. And in order to connect with her son, Holly bought the book and read it too. She immediately became a devoted follower, traveled with her son to see Dolores at a seminar and then quickly became a practitioner and she's now been practicing QHT for almost three years. Holly's background is in the technical, industrial, corporate world and that is far away from QHT as you can get. She has a BS in mechanical engineering and an MS in management. In addition to her PhD, so she's a studious gal. She's an industrial expert in process improvement, maintenance, reliability, sustainability, training and development. And she calls herself Left Brain. She's published two adult books on the subject of sustainability and social responsibility and she's in the process of writing seven children's books on subjects about social responsibility and Holly and her husband live in Durango and stay very busy fixing up their log cabin and working on their small farm. Well, we have something in common there. Holly, I live on a farm too. Welcome, Holly. Thank you, Candice. I'm glad to be here. Yeah, I've got the sheets of plastic over the garden now trying to protect my lettuce until the last possible minute. Bless your heart. I've got some places to do all that and I keep looking at it going, I'm going to do it. I'm going to plant. I'm going to it and then I keep thinking, seriously, I haven't done it. So I want to welcome both of you to this show and I want to tell you that I'm so excited to see you on the airwaves here with me again after being able to spend a little bit of time with you over the summer. I'm so thrilled to have you here because truly the two of you are active, amazing QHHT practitioners and today we're going to talk about all kinds of things and stories and different sessions you've had and some amazing information that really aligns with so much of what we've learned from our teacher Dolores Cannon. So it's been a hectic, crazy week and I can't tell you how much I've been looking forward to tonight. So welcome to you both. Thank you. Thank you, Candice. Well, why don't we start with you, Barbara. Why don't you tell us how you learned about QHHT? How did you find out about it? How did you come to this work? Okay, sure. Well, I went camping by myself in the woods of Northern Arizona in 2013 in the summer and specifically to meet a group of Arcturians because I heard that you can meet Arcturians in this area as well as other beach star beings and when I went to sleep that night and woke up the next morning and I felt, okay, I didn't remember anything. I know you couldn't meet them when you are in your dreams and I went home the next day and I was talking with a friend of mine who had encounters with beings her whole life and she had a regression done by Dolores. This is the first I've heard of Dolores Cannon and she suggested why don't you go to Dolores Cannon's website and find a practitioner in your area. So I said, okay. So I found Holly's name and phone number, wrote it down and said, okay, when I get back in town from the ranch, I'll contact her. And I went into the living room here, the ranch, and did a meditation. And my third eye opened up and I saw the whole scene like a movie much like what happens in a past life regression. And there I saw, I went on board the ship and received an implant and I asked them, what is this for? And they said it's to upgrade my light coat. And when I woke up the next day, I did have a raised red area on my skin of my left outer thigh. And that stayed there for about two weeks and then it went away. I do have a photo of it. So I got back to the Phoenix area and I contacted Holly. I had not read any of Dolores's books or seen any of her videos. And I called her and said, well, what is this? And Holly, do you want to take part of the story from here? Sure, Holly. So I'm practicing in Phoenix. My husband and I have been here for a couple of years. And Barbara is one of the many clients that I was seeing at the time in my, quote, spare time at that time in Phoenix. And so she came in for a session, had a fantastic session. It was textbook, beautiful, high herself came in beautifully, had a wonderful, wonderful experience. And it was funny though, because when she first came in at the time I was practicing in my home and she comes into my home and, you know, Candice, we're doing the interview, as we do in QHT, very thorough interview process. And I'm getting to know Barbara and I'm sitting there thinking to myself, why is she here? You know, she's this incredible star healer and so aware and so connected. I'm like, what on earth is she going to get out of a QHT session? She doesn't need this. She's already plugged in. I'm feeling, you know, quite humble in her presence at this moment. I'm like, okay, she really wants it. I'll go through the steps, but I don't think she needs it. So Barbara, you want to take it back from there? Okay, well, I specifically had asked for my thyroid to be healed. I had hypothyroidism and I was taking a naturopathic preparation and I don't want to take anything. And during that session, Holly said that when they did the scan on me, my body turned into a waveform. You remember that, Holly? Yeah, yeah. So after that session, my thyroid was healed. Can I interrupt and ask a question there? Because these are the kinds of things that I know that our listeners are very interested in. So, okay, your body turned into a waveform. So what I want to know is this, did it actually physically turn into a waveform as you're watching it, or is this like an in your mind's eye kind of thing? I mean, which is it, if you could even say if there's a difference between the two things. I know that our listeners are interested in that. Sure. So let me set the stage a little bit here. So she's lying in a bed, on a queen-size bed. And I think, Barbara, I think you had your knees propped up with pillows and the pillow under your head. And she's kind of very well-nested, if you will, in the bed. And we're, you know, at this point where we're doing the physical healing, we're well into the session. So we've gone through a lot of investigation and looked at past lives and had some conversation with a higher self. So we're way into the session now. And for those of us that are the facilitators in the session, this is pretty tough work because your attention is totally devoted. I mean, you are on spot with your attention span during the entire session because you don't know what's going to happen next, right? Isn't that true? Yeah. So by this time in the session, you're a little mentally exhausted, right? But you're still on point with the attention span. And for Barbara at this point during the healing part, her body, physically, with my eyes wide open, I'm watching her nested in this bed, and her body is vibrating. It's... I don't even know the words to describe it. It's undulating. Her body is undulating. That's the right word. Her body is undulating. And then, of course, in my mind's eye, I can see the energy with my third eye. I can see the energy waves that are going through her body. Yeah. Wow. So that experience is like that. That kind of tends to wake you up, right? Yeah. Pay even more attention. That's amazing. When I do sessions with clients, it's not unusual for me to see with my physical eyes the client's body turns into white light. And I've even had times when the whole room is a brilliant white light during the healing part. Yes. It sometimes does work like that. You know, I have to tell you, ladies, I just had the undulating thing. And when the fellow sat up... I mean, this happened just a few days ago. And when he sat up, he looked at me and he said, you know, he said, I felt that. I didn't know my body could do that. It was the same sort of thing. It's like that dance move, you know, where the people put their arms out and they make it look like they're doing the wave. That's happening throughout the entire body. And sometimes more visibly and more physically than others. Sometimes it's a little more subtle. But that doesn't always, we should say, shouldn't we, ladies? That doesn't always indicate healing or not healing, but it is one of the more visible signs that sometimes happens. So did that heal your thyroid issue, Barbara? Yes. It doesn't take anything at all. So that's gone. That's wonderful. Yeah. That's really great. So you had the session, and then what happened? Well, Holly called me a couple of days later and said, could I do another session with you? Higher self again? And I said, sure. But we did another session. We got to use the key word and then we went right into the, I believe it was parallel lives. And so that was very, very fascinating. That's amazing. So you two have been friends ever since then? We have. We really have. Yeah. So would you like to know how I got into QHT or did you want to? Sure. Absolutely. So you had a session and then what happened? So I had two sessions with her and that was in 2013. And then about a year later, last year at this time, Holly called me. And Holly, do you want to tell your part of this and we'll come back to my part? Right. So I had had some insight. You know, one of the things that begins to happen is you start to practice QHT. And even if you, frankly, not necessarily even practicing, but once you've had a few sessions yourself and as practitioners, we want to have sessions where we're the person that's going into trance. So I have over the years since practicing QHT really gotten a very strong connection to my higher self. And so I've become much, much more prescient about things that are going to happen, things that need to happen, and just making sure that I'm walking the path in my life. And I got a really big knock on my metaphysical door from my higher self that said, call Barbara, make sure that she becomes a practitioner. This is her. And at the time, Barbara, I don't think, Barbara, you had any intention whatsoever of being a QHT practitioner. She had all of her angel work going on and all of her other healing modalities going on. She didn't need QHT added to her list of modalities. So I call her, and I, Barb, I don't think we had seen each other for maybe a year. I mean, we had talked on the phone and casually, you know, chit-chatted here and there, but I call her up and basically say, hey, Barb, you know, you need to be a QHT practitioner. How do we make this happen? So she did. She went and took the training, and I expect her to share with what happened to make that decision. I got the protocol for doing a QHT session on myself. So I told her I'm about ready to do one, and I'm going to ask that question, is this something that's in alignment with my soul? So I put myself down into that fatal level, and I was taken off the planet just like you do with Google Earth, and I was put into Pompeii and Ercolano, what we know is Ercolanium, Italy. And I saw that she and I were both men, and we had a very successful metal pipe business. We made and installed the lead pipe system, the underground system, in those two towns. And so I asked my higher self, is this an alignment to do this? And I was told yes. So I brought myself out, and I text-messaged Holly and said, okay, Holly was thinking that because of the work I do unconsciously, apparently I have the ability to take a person into a past life, heal them, and bring them back, and it's all done unconsciously. And she brought a very good point out was that people are not even aware of that, but with QHT you're actually experiencing it live, and the session is recorded so that you can receive more healing, more information, the expanded consciousness, and a closer connection with your higher self. It really makes it more real for the client. Even though my clients do have healings occurring, this really, I saw it as a really good sit. And so I took the course, and took the exam, and then began doing sessions. And she went, so wonderful. Candice, it's just, go ahead. Candice, Barbara came out of the shoot, I mean, full speed ahead. I think Barbara, how many clients did you have within the first three months? People were flocking to her. Yeah, I got booked up from December to June within two weeks. Wow. So I have a question for you, Barbara. You've been doing this other sort of, you called it unconscious healing with past lives. So as these stories became sort of verbal and more accessible to our conscious mind, to your conscious mind, to your client's conscious mind, how did that change things for you? What did you learn about that? Oh boy, I've learned that it's wonderful to have it tangible for the client, because some people have not progressed long enough to be in that awareness, to be trusting and having that inner knowing. And this really helps them along their path to open up, to come into their enlightenment. This is where this is all going. When I took the course, I just sat there and I said, my God, this is sacred work. And it is an honor. And I think, Barbara, if I can just add to that too, I haven't found another metaphysical healing modality that many other modalities work and work well. But when the client walks away from a QHHT session, they have an audio recording of unbelievable words of wisdom for them coming from them. The advice, the wisdom, the direction isn't coming from the facilitator. It isn't coming from the practitioner. It's coming from themselves. And how do you deny what came out of your own mouth? That's a really good point, Holly. Holly, how did you get involved with QHHT? How did you discover Dolores's work and how did you come to be a practitioner? Yeah, like you said in that intro, so my son was incarcerated. He was a young man at the time. I think he was 19 or 20. And he was in a situation where we couldn't even visit him. The only connectivity I could have with him was either with a video conference or with a phone call. So as any mother knows, I mean, I was just ripped to shreds at this moment, you know, mentally and would do pretty much anything to make any sort of connection with him. And he miraculously somehow found Convoluted Universe 4 in jail and started reading it. And so I was on the phone with him. He says, Mom, you've got to read this book. And so I immediately, you know, Amazon one-click, you know, tomorrow I want the book so that the next time he calls we can have something to chat about. And I start reading Convoluted 4 and I'm sitting there reading it and nine times out of ten weeping while I'm reading it and going, everything I've ever believed in my entire life is in this book. And I've never read any other book that aligns so well with my beliefs. And so I was as smitten with the book as he was. So he was in jail for about 20 days until he gets out and immediately after that we found the Dolores and Julia and Dee Wallace were actually doing a seminar in Sacramento and he said, we're going. You know, let's go. And I had, of course, Dolores did her group Path Life Regression and she did the group Meet Your Spirit Guide and she did the group Future Life progression scripts. And I had, I personally had just amazing experiences with all three and with the Path Life. And at this point, Candice, I mean, I'm a mechanical engineer. I'm in the industrial world. I'm not, you know, I'm not a theoretical. I'm not metaphysical. I'm not any of this, right? And I had my own personal first Path Life experience and it was so shocking and so not what I expected and so real. And I'm sitting there in the seminar and going, oh my gosh, this is real. This is real. This is really real. Holly, can I interrupt you and have you clarify? So maybe our listeners aren't aware of this, but I believe what you're saying is that Dolores is giving a lecture or whatever and she's kind of sitting up in the front of usually a ballroom or something and she's just speaking to a group and the entire group is led into one of these experiences and is this where you're saying that you, and can you share? Can you tell us about? I can, I can. And so there's about 70 people in this room and you know, Dolores has such a presence. She was so humble, but yet so confident and so straightforward, you know, because she had only done what she had done for 45 years, so she wasn't the least bit, you know, lacking in confidence in it, but yet she was a very, very humble person and in a court, yes, she had done some lecturing and then she begins to lead all 70 people simultaneously through a script that, you know, we're all in, we're just sitting in chairs in the ballroom, just like you're saying and we're relaxing and they turn the lights down just a little bit and she goes through general relaxation and then she starts the script for getting you to a past life experience. And so in this case, in this case, she had us go down into a tunnel and we're opening up different doors and I open up a door and it's like a split screen and on the left is just stars in the universe, you know, a lot of just black void space but with these beautiful stars shining and on the right, I can see my feet. So I said, huh, I'm going to go there. I'm going to go to the right. I'm going to look at these feet, right? And as in a lot of past life regression situations we start out with assessing our physical condition in how we arrived at this past life and so I'm looking at my feet and I'm looking at my hands and I'm looking at what I'm wearing. And what I am is I'm a, at this point, I'm a middle-aged African-American lady living in, I think it was either St. Louis or Chicago, but some urban center in a very, very small little, you know, almost like a shack of a house. I was married, I had three children and I remember looking at my hands and my feet. Now, I'm Caucasian and I remember looking at my hands and my feet and seeing that I was African-American and I'm looking and I'm going, huh, I never expected that. I didn't expect to be a different race. I don't know why I didn't expect to be, but I didn't. And so I'm looking at my hands and my feet and go, wow, that's really amazing. That's not me, that's someone else. And so it was what Dolores would call a digging potato's life. You know, my important scenes were cooking bacon at the stove and hanging laundry and just regular chores going on in that lifetime, very, very poor, humble situation back in like the turn of the century, you know, 19 teens, 1920s, and went all the way through the death scene and saw myself in the casket and as an old lady and I went through the whole experience right there in the hotel ballroom. Isn't that just amazing? And not very long of a time either. I mean, that's a pretty short little session in comparatively speaking. Yeah, all of this is like less than 20 minutes, yeah. Well, and I'd like to mention for our listeners that many of our QHHT practitioners, you know, around the country and around the world, facilitate these group regressions. And it kind of gives, you know, the public or people in meetup groups or whatever, you know, a taste of what can possibly happen in a one-on-one session. And sometimes, and I have to tell you this, I had a group regression here many, well, several years ago of a gal and she had some sort of ET experience during the group regression and she said it absolutely changed her. And I mean, I still don't even really know the details of it. It just, you know, it was 20 minutes out of my life in a group regression and it kind of changed the course of everything that she did and thought about. I mean, these things can be powerful, can't they? This is what happened to me. Exactly. They're transformative, yeah. Yeah. So this group regression and going there and listening to Dolores and having the group regression, was that the thing that got you into taking the class then, Holly? Oh, I came home from Sacramento, I think, on a Sunday and signed up for the class on Monday. Yeah, I have to do this. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So that's just amazing. So did you go have, did you try to find a practitioner anywhere then, Holly, or did you just take the class? I did. I mean, how did, uh-huh. Well, I did the online training, which I do a lot of traveling for my work and so that's what worked out for me, because I spend a lot of time alone in hotel rooms at night. Sure. And so it was a great place to learn. And yeah, so luckily I was living in Phoenix then and there were several practitioners at that time and connected with one of them, and we traded sessions, right? Well, I guess while I was towards the back end of the training, and then after I got trained, the recommendation is that we do several true practice sessions where we're not charging people and it isn't necessarily for serious therapeutic work, but we're just getting the training wheels off basically. Well, at the time my daughter was 19 and my son was 21 and so I would line up all their friends, any friends, any of these young adults that would let me practice on them. I'd bring them into the house and they were glorious, glorious people to practice with, beautiful golden souls and just innocent and just, you know, very receptive to the process. And so I did dozens of these sessions with the friends of my children and I sit there and I think, oh gosh, if someone had told me what my life purpose was when I was 19? Mm-hmm. Right? How lucky these kids are. Kind of amazing. It was fun. Yeah, yeah. Good for you. And so then you two have been swapping sessions then. So I guess we've got an interesting presentation from Holly that has to do with a bat and some other things, some Dolores Cannon concepts like the backdrop people, which is a fascinating concept and some other things. And Dolores, I believe herself, may have even made an impression or an appearance there. Would you tell us about that session where Barbara was facilitating? Yeah, sure. So Barbara and I took a road trip to Arkansas. We drove together. I picked her up in Phoenix and then we drove, we drove, what was it, Barb? I think it was 14 hours or 16 hours. And so across two days, so we had lots of time to talk it up in the car for two days. And I got to the level two training in Arkansas back in July and we were bunking together and so we had lots of time in the evenings to practice sessions with each other. And so in one session where Barbara was facilitating me, I had facilitated Barbara multiple times. So we had a keyword for Barbara for those that are unfamiliar with it. We have the ability to, when the client is in deep hypnosis, we can insert a keyword so that if we want to have another session with that client, then we can skip through all of the induction script and go straight into deep hypnosis through the use of the keyword. Well, I had a keyword for Barbara because I had had multiple sessions where I facilitated and she was the client. But we had never been in the opposite situation because we had never physically been together after she got her training. So she had to take me all the way through all of the past life script and it was funny because my first past life experience in that session was as a bat and it goes to show you what kind of a sense of humor our higher selves can have because I, in 3D world, in my waking day, I hate bats. Some people are afraid of rats. Some people are afraid of snakes. Some people are afraid of spiders. I don't mind any of those. I cannot stand bats frightening me. I really don't like them. Well, this was the second time they showed me myself as a bat in the past life. And, of course, Barb asks at the end of the session, why did you show her that past life? And they said, we just think it's funny. You know, we like to poke fun at her because she doesn't like bats and we think it's funny to give her that first-hand perspective. So they have a sense of humor. But then, so we went through the bat life and it wasn't a very long life. I ended up breaking a wing and then dying. So Barb, as we do often in sessions when a past life is very short or boring, not much happening, then we'll do a second or maybe even a third or fourth past life. And so she directs me into a second past life. And at this time, I go to become the universe. I am all that is. I am God's source. So Barb realizes she has source on the line. So she kicks into gear to ask some questions. So Barb, you want to reflect on what your perception was at that point? Yeah. I had asked Holly wherever she liked to go and she goes straight to source. So then I found myself talking with God. And it took me a couple seconds here and had to do a surrender and just allow whatever questions that were in me to come out. So I didn't have any questions prepared to talk and ask God. So I asked her or asked God about the future of the Earth and how does her evolution, her ascension play a role in the entire universe. And it's a very eloquent course on, eventually mother Earth is going to, this old Earth is going to die. And her sister Moon is going to come into the gravitational pull of the old Earth and then they will cause some kind of an implosion where their mass will go out to the stars and then form new planets. It's very beautiful. And I had asked, well, what about human life at that time? And God said that human life will be long, long gone when that happens. And as most people know, this is in following the work of Dolores Cannon and others know that the new Earth, mother Earth ascended 12, 12, 12. And so all of us here are going back and forth between the dimensions. Some days we're in fifths. We have moments in fifths and fourths and thirds. And eventually everyone will, that is meant to go to the new Earth, will go to the new Earth. Others will go to other missions and places in the universe, or others will be switched off. And we can talk about the backdrop people later. I also asked about the Apollo moon landing. I wanted to know if it really did occur. I wanted to put this to rest because I've heard so many different theories that it was just a big hoax. And my dad had worked on the Apollo moon project. He worked for General Electric and he wrote the logistic equations for the computers that detonated the explosives on the capsule when the splash landed into the ocean. Those windows and doors are welded shut. They don't have latches. So they use explosives to discharge the window and the doors out so that the astronauts can step out and get into the water and then be taken on helicopter to the ships. And so God said, yes, it did happen. However, I asked a little further about what is happening on the other side of the moon that we don't see, the dark side. I had heard that there is a lot of shenanigans going on with earthly and non-earthly beings and that there are humans that are being taken there. And it involves the rogue government or a branch of an organization that is doing this type of activity for some gain. However, God said, really, it is really futile what they're doing. It's just like a nuisance. The way I feel about that is that these are experiences that people have signed up for to help them in their soul evolution. And they also have that opportunity to see the big picture and to do the forgiveness work and which erases all that karma that they may have accumulated in past lives and past experiences. And I also asked about Mars. I wanted to know what was going on there. And there are third-dimensional beings, non-three-dimensional beings there, and that this is someplace that, eventually, in the future, that's where humans will be living. Now, what does that really mean, or did you ask more questions about that? You mean, like, groups of humans? Like, just, you know... It will kind of satellite come to Earth. It will become Earth for people. And I'm sure there will be terraforming it. And I think we must remember that our Earth planet here isn't the only Earth-based planet in the universe or in the galaxies. There's more. So I imagine as we leave this existence here that we can go to other planets. You know, I myself come from a planet outside the Solar System. Why don't you tell us about that? Well, I really can't right now because I know the name of the planet and I'm saving it for my second book, my autobiography that's been published. I will reveal that name. But I do, in my first book, I do share with people that my other form is a being called a Zagian. And we are beings that don't have emotion. And I'm here to learn about the emotion of love. I'm here to discover it, teach it, know all I can about it. And then at night, I go into a form of liquid light and I go up to a broadcast station. That's a big, huge... It's like a big white sphere. And I broadcast it out to teach the beings out there about love. I saw that during a past life regression. That was not to H.H.T. many years ago. I think too, Candace, I could interject another really interesting thing that came out of that session because one of the things that I struggle with is I have one foot in a very technical role in the corporate world. I'm a scientist and statistician and engineer. And then I try to... Then I have the other foot in this metaphysical healing modality. And so I'm always trying to figure out which is the right one, which should I be focused on, which shouldn't I... These two worlds are really not a big overlap right now. And so Barb asked my higher self, how will this be rectified? How will... Which side will win out in the end or which one should I focus on? And in that session, the higher self said, it's a fascinating answer. They said that in a very, very near future, our top physicists will make discoveries, physics discoveries, that can't be explained without metaphysics. Yeah. Okay? And so... Too shame. Yes, it's a very short period of time before there is no separation that we'll all realize that physics is metaphysics. And so don't worry about Holly because the two sides, the two groups will be integrated in the future. Holly, that makes me very curious about your colleagues in the very technical corporate world. Do they know what you do when you're not in the hotel room doing your technical corporate kind of... Some do. Yes. And in fact, I have had sessions with some of my corporate colleagues. And they have found incredible things out about themselves and their simultaneous lives and past lives. And it's a very, very interesting thing. And obviously, out of a concern for privacy, I won't share any of those. But yeah, that's happened. Sure. That's amazing. So you are very left-brained, technical colleagues in that world. We're open to this kind of exploration. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Were you surprised about that? Not as surprised as they were after they had the experiences. Oh, goodness. That's a really good question. So may I ask, back to the session where, I guess, Barbara was leading Holly, is that the one where Dolores came through? You know, we're all still big Dolores fans and any Dolores news on this side of the veil or the other is something that we're all so interested in. Yes, we both did that. We came through both of our sessions. Yeah. So we have more than one story to talk about with Dolores? Mm-hmm. Yay. I love hearing it. Yeah. Well, Barbara, go ahead. Without talking with Holly and Holly Subconscious, I asked would it be possible for Dolores to come through? And sure enough, she did. And I always ask her, you know, do you have a message for us? And she said that she feels very comforted to see that the learning is continuing with QHT. It's being, the technique is being perpetuated and expanded. And she also said that quantum healing hypnosis technique is critically important and is beneficial for those going through the upcoming difficult times. Mm-hmm. For those that have had a QHT session, they're going to have an easier time going through all these trauma experiences, especially what's going on in the news right now around the world and in the U.S. People have had these sessions. They're able to see the big picture. They're able to see that, you know, it's all going to work out. And that with their connection, their higher self, the higher self was able to let them know that, yeah, you are safe. You are, you're going to be just fine. You're going to have some challenges, but this is all part of the lessons that you signed up for. Delores... I think Barbara, I'm sorry, go ahead, one. Delores asked that all the practitioners follow the orthodoxy of her work. And what was very interesting, we were chuckling about this the other day, was that Delores used that word orthodoxy. That means authorized or generally accepted theory, doctrine, or practice. She told me to go look up the definition. And the way... this is how it really validates that this was Delores. Because I asked Holly, do you ever use that word orthodoxy? And Holly said, no, I said, either do I ever in my entire life? So, what was she talking about? It's about the orthodoxy of the changes that are part of the evolution of the QHHT that it must be honored regarding any experimentation or validation. You know, there's a lot of us like myself who love to experiment on myself. I will go places that other people don't. However, I do know the safeguards. I know the parameters. I've done things that put me in situations which are another good place to be, metaphysically. However, we have this backup system that we're not even aware of that comes into play. And I'm always grateful for that, okay? So, this is something that she just wants us to be aware of to make sure that we... if we're seeing the same information coming through multiple people, like she did, that probably is the truth. And even though we're not here to force any belief on anyone, try to convince anyone of anything, it's there, out in the open, for people to ponder and to see how it fits into their reality, into their belief system. Because that's the bottom line to all of this. What do you believe? Yeah. And I think, Candice, when I was facilitating, then Barb and Dolores came through. And at that time, through Barb, and at that time, we were right snuck down in the middle of our training. So we had lots of questions about, of course, I had asked her about my technique, and she gave me some advice, and I asked her about Barb's technique, and she gave Barb some specific advice, and then we said, do you have any advice for our class in general? And Dolores said, yeah, relax, have fun. We were maybe taking ourselves a little too seriously at that moment, and it was time to just relax and have fun with the technique. So that was really cool. And then I asked her, I had just finished re-reading conversations with Nostradamus, all three volumes. And amazing, amazing books. And for anyone that has read Dolores and hasn't read those books, I strongly encourage people to read those. Just unbelievable how the content of those books came about. I think it was across four different people. Dolores connected directly, in real time, not from a historical perspective, but directly to Nostradamus and had conversations with Nostradamus. And so I wanted to ask Dolores. I said, hey, so now that you're on the other side, because when she wrote the conversations with Nostradamus, she was really flummoxed with how the whole time thing worked. How could she be sitting in her office in the 1990s and be talking to Nostradamus in the 1400s directly with him? How does time work then? And so I asked in the session when Dolores was coming through Barb, I said, hey, so now that you're on the other side, tell us about this time thing. Did you figure out the Nostradamus thing? Oh, now that, do you have that secret? And so, yeah, she said that, she said all is connected within, within, within. And she said it was really, really difficult for us to understand how time really works, but because everything is actually occurring at the same time and existing at the same time, there are these portals that we can use to communicate with people that are in a different time, because everything's really happening all at the same time. And then I said, well, is that the same portal we're using in QHT for the past life? And she said, yeah, it is. And we're, we are using those same time portals in the past life as she used in Nostradamus. And I think that those, you know, just in going back and recently rereading those three books, I just want to encourage Candace, your listeners to read those, because we're here. We're in the time when Nostradamus's predictions were the most dire. And Dolores had three different astrologers read the interpretations that Nostradamus had given her. And 2029 is the consensus year of when the most important aspects of those prophecies come about. So reading those books right now is really important for everybody. And she also said that the portal that she's talking about is located in the mind. You know, the Nostradamus connection is just so, so huge. And I spent quite a bit of time with Dolores in the years before she died. And you know, Dolores could be enigmatic and she could be, she was such an interesting, wonderful woman. And I would talk to her a little bit about Dolores. And for the most part, notwithstanding what you've just shared, Holly, she would say, when people would ask in classes, she would say that for the most part, things, energetics, timelines were changed. I don't know that it's, you know, that it's anything that can be considered nothing to think about anymore. But she has come through in communication in my own life where it has been absolutely stressed that one of the most important things about her work with Nostradamus was how she actually communicated. And that type of communication, which is something, you know, somewhat different than going to a client's past life or a client, right? You know, basically, for our listeners out there who are wondering what the heck we're talking about, imagine if you will this scenario because this is what's going on with Dolores and Nostradamus. And how crazy is this that she did this so regularly and she was able to publish three thick volumes? So this isn't like from one-off fluke. This is this thing that she did and this is what she did. Pardon me. She would have a client who would go into trance. That client within trance would become kind of like a telephone or a conduit, a way for Nostradamus to speak through the client. Now imagine Nostradamus, and I'm going to forget how many hundreds of years ago it was. You guys helped me how many hundreds of years ago he was alive. So hundreds of years ago, what he's doing is he is in his study and he is actually scrying. And the word is scrying, S-C-R-Y-I-N-G, which is what we all kind of know as the wizard looking into a crystal ball. That's called scrying. You can put yourself into a trance and take yourself into other realms and other dimensions by using a crystal ball, by using a mirror. What Nostradamus actually used was a shiny piece of black rock called obsidian. And he put himself into a trance by staring into a black rock and what he ended up with was into the future talking to a person named Dolores Cannon. Now how crazy is that? But it was repeated over months and I'm not even sure. Yeah, over four, six, or more clients, I believe, different people. And it's just this amazing, wonderful story and when Dolores had this whole scene going on where she was talking with Nostradamus, the first client where this seemingly magic thing happened, she was a natural subnamulist and she was a very great client for Dolores. And you know what, she actually just got tired of it. She was spending time laying on her sofa over at Dolores's house or whatever and actually this woman says to Dolores, I'm remembering the story, right? She says, you know, Dolores, I'm going to have to go. I think I'm moving to Alaska. Dolores is like, oh no. It says, you know, gosh, before you do that, one more chance, can you one more session? And she has another session. She gets as much information as possible and she tells Nostradamus through her client. This is going to be our last session and that's when Nostradamus says, oh, but it's not now I know how to get a hold of you. And Dolores is like, wow, and Nostradamus gives her like a secret phrase. And then Dolores sort of shrugs and goes on with her work and then I'm not sure how long after that she has a client, just a regular client gets all the way to the end of the session and says, is there anything else? And then the client says a secret phrase. And there's Dolores, you know, talking with Nostradamus. I just love that story. Holly and Barbara, I think one of my favorite stories, I just finished the story but I have to tell another one because it's my favorite. Have you all heard about this story with Nostradamus and Dolores? So, mostly, you know, they have people out there talk about Nostradamus experts, you know, the theory of Nostradamus. Well, to be very, very plain and honest and direct here, Dolores simply said, hey, Nostradamus, what did you mean by this quatrain? And Nostradamus would say, oh, I met Yada Yada XYZ or whatever. All she did was basically be a secretary. She didn't theorize. She just took the word straight from him. It was direct. It wasn't any thinking. It wasn't being, you know, Nostradamus and Dolores are here. This was a direct conversation with Nostradamus. So, it was pretty, if you think about it, it was just kind of, you know, dictation for hours and hours with all of his stuff. And at Candace, too, when she first made contact with him, she had never read anything about him. Right. She didn't even know how to spell his name. She had to go look him up afterwards. I mean, that's amazing. And, you know, we all, as QHT practitioners, find our, so I remember, you know, first, like writing down the word, Arc Tourist A, Arc what, what, you know, I'd never heard of it before. But just to finish out this little story, and then I definitely want to let your ladies talk about that, but I think this may be one of my favorite stories about Dolores. So, at one point, they're kind of finishing up with the dictation of something about medicine. And Dolores says something about her doctor or whatever and maybe mentioning something about her doctor and then using the term she. And I believe this is the part, how it happened. And Nostradamus says, what do you mean she, the doctor, she? You can't be talking about a doctor if you're saying she. And Dolores says, well, you know, doctors can definitely be women and doctors and lawyers and scientists and astronauts and fire pilots and you know, anything else. Women can do anything men can do and Nostradamus basically says get out. That's just not possible. A little tiny argument between each other and my favorite part is that Dolores actually says well, I'm a woman and do you know that Nostradamus actually didn't know that until that moment? They hadn't really discussed it and it was this big revelation. But for me, the funny thing is this man is talking into a rock to a woman who's 400 or 500 years into the future and this is believable to him. But the idea that a woman can be a doctor really just, you know, is incomprehensible. If I could be a fly, I personally can go back into time at any point in time and go be a fly on the wall I would go to that moment in Dolores Cannon's life with and in conversations with Nostradamus. I don't know about you two though. That story just tickles me every time I think about it. And he would get upset at how horribly translated his quatrains were and how they had just gotten him completely wrong. Really great information about Nostradamus. Well, that was really fun. How about we move on? What other kind of sessions have you ladies had? What kind of like convoluted sessions or maybe the backdrop people? Can we talk about them a little bit? I believe that Dolores's new book Convoluted Five has a little more information in it about backdrop people. What did you two discover? A lot. Barb, why don't you tell us? This is a little project of mine is to learn more about the backdrop people and even from gosh I think it was I had a session with a wonderful woman who was an indigo and I had asked about the backdrop people and then that concept and let's see I'm trying to think here what what was she saying about that. Well, they are here to help us not feel sad or sorrow because many people are already being taken off the planet. They're already going to the new earth to other dimensions other places, other missions and they're going in great numbers and so there's a lot of people missing and people who are not consciously aware and awake will feel lonely. They don't realize that they're never alone. They have angels and guides and of course the higher self and God and everything with them and so I had asked more about the backdrop people and what how can you tell a backdrop person from a sentient being an enlightened person who is on their path and learning their lessons here and basically the backdrop people is a concept a beautiful concept that the higher self subconscious has come up with and they can be different types and I learned these varieties by asking through Holly and Holly Sessions about the different types so there's one for instance is considered a walk out person in other words a person who has decided they are done, in fact I have a dear friend who I know is a walk out and she leaves and the human body is available for another either a program to go in there or another being to go in there and use that body and the the personality will be changed the person may become what would be disinterested or they get upset and it's the smallest of consequences and things about life and it's one of the programs that the higher self has put in to these backdrop people it's programming of complaining people are used to complaining so you feel like well this is pretty much normal it's like having quite noise in the background so you don't feel lonely like turning on the TV or the radio and doing your business we also found out that there is something what's called a human suit and that's where you have a physical body that is the soul leaves that personality leaves and now this suit is available for specialized beings in the universe that need to come and do some work they may come in to that body do their work and leave and another one comes in and these are beings that are here to help the planet evolve and they're helping with well things like settling disputes changing the dynamics learning more about technology you know advanced concepts and let's see what else Holly is there another one that I'm forgetting about? Yeah the last the last variety is there are the of course you know we're at the moment in 3D earth of huge transition and so there are there are souls that where the body exists that they haven't yet committed to a full incarnation and a full mission on earth so they're still kind of sitting on the fence so the body's operating day by day basis but the soul is kind of going I'm not sure I'm going to stick around for all of this or not yet I'm not committed yet and so I think Barb had a client that might have been a variety of this type but yeah so there's the folks that have ascended the millions and millions of folks that are already on 5D earth but yet the bodies continue because if all those millions of people suddenly die then the vibration of those remaining would go down and that would be bad for the ascension of the remainder of us and the bodies continue to go on but they're backdrop people now they're not real sentient souls because the souls have already ascended then there's the suits that other entities can come in and out of at will and then there's these varieties that the soul hasn't really committed to the mission yet and is still testing out the 3D thing before they commit and then there's the fourth type that are the pure holograms they your higher self manifest these things that appear to be other people but they're nothing but a hologram they don't actually exist as a person at any time and they just come at you appear before you for some purpose that your higher self is put in front of you I think Barb those are the four kind I think we got it Do you remember Candice Dolores is a convoluted universe book 4 and she talked about the backdrop people and how she used to go into the airport and just kind of like wonder how many of these people are backdrop people well she kind of played one on me when I left training last July with Holly. Holly drove me to the Elberkirk New Mexico airport and because of Hurricane Dolores was messing up the weather we had wind and lightning storms so I was stuck there for about 11 hours at the airport and I was reading one of Dolores' books Jesus and His Seams and I'm sitting there by myself and I look up and there's this woman walking by and she has the silliest grin smile on her face and she's looking straight at me as she walks by and I asked my higher self who was that and I said Dolores So explain that joke for us did you think like that might have been a suit that Dolores jumped into so that she could grin at you? Oh yeah She knows I'm very interested in doing this research about the backdrop people and so she she did a beautiful demonstration for me I loved it That's amazing It's just amazing I'm thinking as you're talking about the different kinds of backdrop people and some other things that I've known about creation and hologram it's my understanding I think that I did some asking a client myself during a session about some of this there's actually the idea if enough people give energy towards a hologram and enough time passes and enough attention is placed on it it's my understanding that even something like a hologram can graduate to some sort of more tangible, actual, physical existence Have you ladies ever run into anything like that? Well I had that one client that I'm pretty sure is one of the type that is not truly committed She didn't have a very good session, in other words it was very left brain for her, she would not get out of that left brain and so I specifically asked about that client through Holly's Higher Self and I was told that's who that person is and so what I've been doing is praying and sending energy to that person so that they will hopefully evolve to the best potential always be positive and send that love that inspiration for those people Do you have something to say Holly? Yes, I think to Candice one of the fantastic things about QHHT and the path life experiences is they aren't always humans like I was saying, I was a bat I've been an ant I've had clients that have been rocks mountains you know all of these seemingly inanimate objects but they are a tree so we have the ability to incarnate into anything into any manifestation and sometimes we kind of maybe put a little too much emphasis on the human experience whereas there's some very, very wonderful rich experiences that are not human and in all cases the soul and the spirit is seeking the lesson that it needs to seek in order for the soul to grow and that may or may not be human and so bringing a hologram blessing and praying and focusing on bringing a soul or I'm sorry a hologram into sentience I think really has to be the decision of a soul to choose that vehicle to incarnate in and then the incarnation has to be serving a purpose for that soul and it may or may not be a backdrop person or a hologram of a person but it could be as a rock or a tree or a mountain whatever however evolved they want to be what they signed up for you know when I think about some of this I also think about the the tendency of humans as a group to also want or or yearn for something and what I'm thinking about right now is something like when a beloved person passes away and let's take the ever present sometimes joked about idea that people see Elvis Presley and have seen him after his death and I've asked about that in sessions sometimes too and some of what that is people will say well I was here I was there and I saw Elvis and he did this or whatever and some of that my understanding is that human consciousness there's enough people gathered interested wanting yearning to see to feel to have that personality back that it actually manifests something that other humans can see and talk about and think is actually physical it's astonishing how much power we have right I think too that this also speaks to Candace the near death experience and I'll align that with what we do in QHHT and the goal the ideal in a QHHT session is that the client through the death experience in their past life situation because we want the person to understand how smooth that transition is and how not frightening how peaceful that death experience really is that takes away a lot of our fears on a day-to-day basis when we understand how easy that transition is and some people we have the NDE experience where some people say they see the tunnel of light or they see Jesus or they see their grandmother greeting them or whatever and we can have that in the QHHT experience as well in the death experience I saw Jesus saw something and these are manifestations that we make to the purpose I think is to calm ourselves there's a purpose there of that manifestation whether it's real or not real doesn't matter that serves a purpose Holly, you make such an excellent point about going through the death experience humans especially in our time right now we don't tend to honor death we tend to fear it we certainly tend to avoid even talking about it and there's something quite fascinating that we learn and doing this work and one of the things is exactly what you said that it's really very it's a very easy transition what's hard is the people who have to stay behind that's who it's difficult for some people will talk about maybe torture or some sort of horrible death or being burned at the stake and haven't you ladies found this and isn't this interesting that you can in these sessions learn that the soul leaves while the body still may be apparently in a lot of trauma in a lot of pain maybe even yelling etc and the soul's already gone they are not experiencing that I've found that over and over again haven't you we help them not to feel any discomfort and so they're able to look at what happened and talk about it and it's all recorded I also give my clients an example so they know and they see that it's just like watching a movie yeah and I think this goes back to the backdrop people as well too because I think the soul has the ability to exit when the soul chooses I explained to a lot of my clients that I've had clients that were a rock their past life was a rock talk about boring incredibly boring existence and so when interesting questions well how does a rock die right how does the soul ever exit the rock well the soul just chooses to exit the rock the incarnation is complete the contracts are complete and the soul chooses to leave the rock doesn't have to die because a rock can't die the soul just simply chooses to leave and okay Holly Holly I'm going to have to take a little exception to your boring comment just a little bit because I don't know about you two ladies but I've had lots of rocks lots of rocks and when I talk to clients about this I think it's very interesting because think about our lives right now how frenetic our lives are right now I think about how many hours of sleep I had just last night when I woke up when I went to office today how I got home and how I threw the computer over here and I'm like it's three minutes till showtime our lives are so frenetic right now and sometimes having a QHHT session our clients are shown lives of rocks well what does that rock get to do that rock just experiences time passing erosion lizard walking by the clouds there's this peacefulness and there is this expansion and a very different perception of what time is and one of the fascinating things about doing this work is we can go with our clients into these experiences somebody who's experiencing a rock and while they're experiencing a rock and they're able to live and notice what's going on and to I mean let's think about it to be solid to be grounded to be rested to not be frantic to notice what's going on around you and while you're being a rock you get to go oh yeah I can maybe do that a little bit in my life too it's like you're reminding yourself as a human what is also possible for you it's really kind of amazing you know when you go back and you have these quote unquote past lives you can bring forth and experience and then kind of reinvigorate and bring back skills and knowledge and peace and balance in some of these ways so there's some real reasons why people are experiencing lives as rocks even though we all sort of giggle about that because everybody thinks you know that it's that it is quite dull and it is quite fair enough fair enough Candace definitely definitely so how about like the strangest thing that you could ever that it took you a long time to figure out exactly what it was that your clients were experiencing and I'll start with my own example one of my clients one of the longest times that it took for me you know lots of back and forth questions before I could figure out what is it that you're experiencing this woman ended up telling me and was able to say that she was a piece of gravity existing on a certain spot on the moon wow that's crazy I guess the most the most unusual one that I ever had was a client who is synambulistic naturally synambulistic meaning for those that are listening that might not understand that word they are out in the trance state it's like they're under general anesthesia they have zero awareness of the conscious surroundings and so the client was synambulistic and it turns out that this client was living a living a simultaneous life on a different planet and that was really quite disturbing in the synambulistic state she was really wrestling with trying to basically experience these two simultaneous existences and and is actually still living that simultaneous life in this other planet today so that was a little bit of a mind bender and you said it was a woman how did she feel about it when she when it was all over I mean when you debrief and talk about what happened yeah the whole QHT experience for her was life altering absolutely life altering changed her entire concept belief structure and we ended up having several sessions and investigating it further and further so yeah it was life altering how about you Barbara what's some of the most kind of mind bending it took you a while to figure out what your client was experiencing kind of session that you've had well I did I never had a rock but I did have a client with a tree which was very very lovely and it was a very beautiful experience but the one that had me wondering what is going on here was a client who was a mermaid and what was interesting is usually and Gloria said this in her books you come off the cloud you come down to the surface well she didn't want to go down off the cloud and I just thought in my head and said would you like to go up she said yes realizes she is now in the water as she's going up now at this time she's laying on the bed and her arms are flailing back and forth air almost hitting me I'm dodging her arms you can imagine being in the water going through the water and her journey as a mermaid was to go to the surface there was some danger lurking for her to go up to the surface of the water so we explored her fear of this this was one of her missions as a mermaid and she was able to go through that fear very lovely and she made it all the way to the surface of the water and then she realized she can't go back she's completed her journey so then she makes her way to the shore and kind of like moves her body up on the sand to the rocks and while she's laying there she becomes a lizard a huge lizard and after that we explored the lizard's life and the lizard eventually was in the area at the time where the earth was still after it had been formed there were volcanoes and she was pummeled by rocks from an explosion and the cataclysmic flow from a volcano and she went through the death scene very beautifully and that was my most amazing one that I really enjoyed which kind of had to like make up if you're not going to go down why not go up and find out it was the perfect direction to go so that was fun that does sound like fun I just had a mermaid about a week ago or so and when and actually so for her she was like well I think there are clouds those are the strangest clouds I've ever seen and she's like they're I don't know they're kind of purple clouds they're kind of heavy they don't really and what she was actually talking about was waves under water she was seeing like you know different kinds of water moving past her but you know she hadn't quite settled into the experience yet and she was you know so she's thinking she's in the sky and that these are clouds and you know at some part she's still she just doesn't know and so I have her do the thing that all QHHT practitioners know to do which is say well how about turn around you know what's behind you oh yeah and she she turned around she said you know what's behind you she said it's a fish it's a big yellow fish you know and that's when she's like oh my gosh I'm in the water and then that's we figured out some of the same things and you're right my mermaid also had a you know I'm going to go to the surface even though you know I've been told by my other mermaid people that I've known that that can be a very dangerous thing very interesting yes the lesson was about walking through that fear and it was so interesting she in the end she was like you know and I she hadn't even told me this in the interview but she loved swimming you know and suddenly she was like gosh I love swimming and it was also her higher self actually had told her about being different this was some of this was being different because she was actually hauled up in a net by some men on a boat and it ended up being the death of her and she had a really interesting death experience as that mermaid she just basically in the net and looking at these men and they were poking her with a stick you know I mean you can imagine humans doing that like what the hell is this and they just the stick poking and pulling her up out of the water like that really killed her and she didn't fight and she didn't yell and she didn't scream and it wasn't traumatic she was like staring them in their eyes and then she just kind of left her body and she was gone kind of sad yeah but she was she was so shocked she was so shocked that she couldn't even really say the word mermaid she really she'd already kind of figured out that she would be able to accept the concept of a past life but not a mermaid life that and her higher self I said well why did you show her that well because she thinks she has an open mind her higher self said but she really doesn't yeah funny so how about some healing stories ladies you know we've got half hour or so more to talk can you talk to me about some of your best healing stories I'd love to hear some of them well one of the yeah one of the things yeah one of the things that we did in our shared sessions in Arkansas was some surrogate healing and that worked fabulously I think I think Barb we we had four surrogate we did healing for surrogately for four people four or five or maybe more while in session you facilitated for me and we did four mm-hmm yeah and over that's incredibly amazing because you know we aren't we aren't allowed or we choose not to practice with children you know those people under the age of 18 and mm-hmm now knowing what I think now knowing that what I know about surrogate healing this is an incredibly powerful way to get healing to people that can't be in a session either because of their age or maybe their infirmities or or just geographically if one person is has a very close connection with it it's usually a family member a very close friend then then they can ask for healing through the client and what happens is in the client's higher self contacts that person who's the target of the healing contacts that higher self seeks permission to do the healing and then can report back and conduct the healing with the client's higher self and what what Barb and I found is that not only can the healing happen between so for example I was facilitating Barb was a client we asked for some surrogate healing for people that she was close to but I also asked her surrogate for surrogate healing for people that I was close to as the facilitator and we got the surrogate healing so it didn't even have to be people close to Barb but it was people close to me as the facilitator that was interesting the surrogate healing and in that the one person that I'm close to is reporting that the low back pain of 22 years is completely gone pretty darn phenomenal for QHHT it's amazing amazing and Holly did you want to share what happened with you or not oh yeah sure remember what the higher self said to you yeah so again I'm facilitating Barb's client I shattered my knee four years ago in a skiing accident and I have two plates a bolt and four pins still on my knee well we don't know still do we Barb so so I asked for healing on my knee I first asked I said does the metal affect the flow of key in my leg at all and Barb's higher self said no there's no worries there and then Barb's higher self said I said okay fine you know is there anything I should know about it no and then Barb's higher self said would you like the metal removed I mean unprompted by me the higher self said would you like the metal removed sure why not well it just so happened it was kind of you know late in the session here and I was I was sitting in a chair by the bed as we usually are facilitating and I was slouching I was just kind of in a just a real terrible posture just slouching in this chair and of course Barb has her eyes closed she's in trance her higher self is speaking and her higher self says well I need you to sit up straight dear of course my eyes are closed so I have no idea what's going on so so I sit up straight yeah and then then Barb's higher self speaks to her in this mathematical language it's really pretty amazing and so her higher self starts chanting this mathematical language and then tells me that they've installed a program to then remove the to remove the metal from my knee and but then they said that I needed to have another session with her to install the next program and so we did a few days later we did that session and then installed the second program so yeah so interesting stuff about about me being the client and yet getting being the facilitator and getting healing from the client in trance that's I have so many questions Dolores always says this is where if you're somebody who is sitting out there listening and you can just imagine all these other questions to ask then you are aligning with the energy of Dolores because that's where she was so may I ask a couple questions about your knee Holly would that be alright sure so the main question is did you just flat ask for the healing but not ask like you know why did I have that problem or why did that happen to me to begin with or did you just plain say me I have you know I mean how did that that part of it work yeah well I had had sessions that are different time with other practitioners I had I've been so blessed in this whole journey Candice with always being near other QHHT practitioners even here in Durango I am and I had had multiple sessions where I had had my knee investigated and evaluated and I had asked questions about the reason and it's my left knee by the way and so I won't share it but I do know the purpose I know the purpose of the injury and all that and so ironically in this particular session I was really only worried about the T I really was I wasn't wasn't necessarily giving me pain I had actually through QHHT had all of my knee pain taken away and successfully and I was just really worried about T and that was it and so it was just hilarious that Barb types up as well don't you want the metal taken away I love it I love it I remember the first time that I had that happen and it was very strange I had three out of four clients in a row came to me all women and they all had metal in their body and I don't even know how it was that I asked but it just sometimes you probably feel this or have this happen to as practitioners yourself tell me if this is true or not where suddenly you hear kind of like a question come out of your mouth and you think wow that was a pretty good question where the heck come from I don't know about you but I have that I'm like wow that's pretty good and one of them was about the metal I was like well can you you know replace the metal I haven't heard I mean it's like I'm listening myself ask that question and the higher self the subconscious agreed and then I quickly had two other clients and the same things had happened and one client in particular of me I'm not sure about what happened with the others but I was so astonished by the concept that the body could replace metal with bone and tissue I made a call to Arkansas to find out if it had happened in Dolores's sessions because I hadn't heard her talk about it or anything and it's one of my favorite memories of calling out over there you know this was several years ago of course but my favorite thing was like we had the session like almost on the exact same day it was just that week too she had had the same thing happen which I just find astonishing how these things kind of group together either in our own practice or with others isn't that interesting well it's just like salvo a grouping that occurs when you have a yard sale you'll have a whole bunch of people come and then it's quiet and another bunch of people it's like they're batching people to come to your yard sale that's happened year after year that I've done a yard sale if I could share some of the healings that I've heard from my clients they're just so wonderful there's one lady that I regressed and we discovered that she has a parallel life as a reptilian in a very very loving relationship it has a family as a reptilian and she's shared with me the shoulder and neck pain that she's had for five years it's totally gone and even a month after the session it was still gone another person said that their author antidepressant medication life just keeps getting better and better had one woman who had multiple sclerosis she's off all her medications for who have been addicted to alcohol and that's all gone smoking gone if they don't want to engage in those behaviors then and they're ready to release it it's gone headaches blood pressure is normal at the doctor's office negative entities around a person that was a phenomenal healing that was done one person said it's like a magic switch was turned on and they get up the next morning and they felt the best they ever had in their entire life and they felt the strength that's nasty and focused now to pursue their dreams another popular one is gastric reflux they take care of that like a sneeze is no problem one woman very important was her career she has more clients calling her now and one of the most phenomenal sessions I had was a man who snored through his session you know you think man on the exercise that this man received any healing at all when we finished I said you had a healing I just knew it and sure enough the next day he told me that he had the worst headache of his life this man has migraines throughout the day so bad that he had to get Botox injections around his scalp headache completely gone and another fascinating was the tinnitus which is known as ringing in the ears of 18 years completely gone and he said that was worth it right there sure I think it's important to note too though that sometimes they, the higher self chooses not to heal for a reason and we have to remember that all of our ailments our physical manifestations in our body are messages it's a way for the higher self to talk to us and send us messages and the when for example I had a client actually just a few days ago that had really terrible stomach pain and can you so we're in the session and I'm asking the higher self can you please take away the stomach pain and the higher self says no right well because he needs to quit drinking so the manifestation of the stomach pain is a message of a different problem so even if the remedy doesn't happen there in the session at the very least we can find out why, what the message is and why the ailments manifest and then what the client needs to do to correct it that's a really great point that's a really great point that's a good point Holly because I facilitated a session for a chiropractor who was born we found out with an anomaly in his spine that's seen on X-ray and people would know that in the medical community he's spot a little of seizes and the higher self said I didn't mean to diminish some of the discomfort but it's there for a purpose to remind him what his patients are going through yep yep gosh just today just today I had a session where a young man musician and part of his problem was he had some pretty good shoulder pain and we asked where it was from it was actually it came from his father's side of the family and where did that come from it came from some negativity and some other things and then we asked well has he learned from it can he release it can he let it go and it was very interesting his higher self said not all the way because he was a musician and he was very very young just 20 very young man and he needed to have that experience of what human pain was to deepen the message and the effect and that his music has on other people it made him more complex and more understanding as a human isn't that interesting so he was supposed to keep from it this reminds me a little bit Candace Natalie Seudman's book and her near death experience and she she's died she's on the other side she comes back but her and her spirit guide are on the other side knowing now that she's going to come back that it isn't a death experience and they're laughing hysterically at all of the possible injuries that they could give her oh if we cut off your right hand you're going to have to learn how to right with your left hand and that's going to be absolutely hilarious and they're making all of these plans and setting all these strategies of the injuries that she's going to have for the purpose as she comes back into body and they just think it's hysterical and they said they're going to give her I love that book there's a lot of people I know who considered it too cerebral and it's a really thin book and I'm telling you you got to read it slow there's a lot packed into that book but I think about talk about and reference that book all of the time there's a lot of women in there Natalie actually spoke at our second practitioner reunion a couple of years ago and she's a painter and she's kind of an amazing woman really, really enjoy speaking with Natalie Sudman what a great thing to mention here in our program exactly just for the listeners it's S-U-D-M-A-N Natalie Sudman great book it really is a good book Can we take any questions from the listeners? Sure I've been watching the phone lines I don't see any there none of our phone people have their hands up I've been watching the chat room if there are any questions it is probably a good time to pose them either in the chat room or to give us a call I'll remind everyone that the number is 646-716-8890 if you'd like to call in and ask a question or put one in the chat room we'd love to take it we've been talking now for a couple of hours and might wind it down this evening ladies it's been so much fun to talk to you I think we could just go on for hours I think that means you might have to come back so many so many different things we can talk to well I don't really see any questions coming in or anyone's hands up how about we just take this time to tell our listeners how they might be able to find you if they're in Arizona or in Colorado and if they'd like to head your way for a session. Barbara how can our listeners find you? Well on the website it's www.bubberveckerhealing.com that's B-A-R-B-A-R-A B-D-C-K-E-R H-E-A-L I-N-G .com I also have email at www.bubberveckerhealing.com and also my phone number is on my website right that's a great way to do it also the find a practitioner on websites yeah one of the best websites to go to to find a practitioner in your area are dedicated practitioner listings which are photo listings and you can kind of see the area of the country etc and that is a direct URL of www.doloriscannon.com that's www.doloriscannon.com www.doloriscannon.com www.doloriscannon.com Holly how can our listeners find you? Sure so I'm in Durango Colorado and my website is www.caredorango.com so www.caredorango.com www.caredorango.com www.caredorango.com www.caredorango.com and our location in downtown Durango is shown there on the website I practice in the mountain medicine clinic great little clinic with with lots of enlightened caregivers and my email is www.caredorango.com www.caredorango.com Super Well okay and anyone who might be in the heartland in Kansas or passing by and passing through who would like to possibly have a session with me you can find me at www.newearthjourney.com a Tuesday radio show called New Earth Journey which is on BBS Radio do a little expansive talking there changing the subject get a little bigger than the quantum healing focus that we have here on this show Quantum Healing with Canvas I would like again to thank in 5D for allowing this show to be created and bringing this method to the world it really is life changing for so many I'd also like to thank everyone who tuned in to listen today and I like to thank those of you who are listening to us in the future maybe in an archive because we love the idea of the timelessness of being able to connect with others in the future and go through time and space which is what we do with QHHT Holly and Barbara this has truly been such an enjoyable couple of hours I hope you had a good time as well yes thank you Candace, thank you for the opportunity it's always great to talk to you thank you so much ladies and I truly would love to have you back and good night everybody and thank you for tuning in till next time thank you Candace thank you, bye bye