 Bihar has witnessed a series of criminal tensions recently. To understand the dynamics of the flare-up, we have caught up Mr. Ganeshwal, senior journalist, who runs his own web portal called CityLife. What is the dynamics? Who have taken advantage of the situation and who lost their political career? Let's understand with the senior journalist. Sir, can you tell us about what has happened in Bihar? Who has got the political advantage? Who is sandwiching in the middle of this whole episode? Which two beneficiaries do you think? Mr. Ganesh, what kind of a state has been peaceful with no history of such violence? It was very close. The conspiracy to spread tensions was very ingenious. It was made as a conspiracy. And it was made as a political conspiracy. And it was chosen by the people in 2019. It was not possible for the country to do such a thing because it was not allowed by the government, the state, the state and the government. So Bihar was made as a soft target. And no one designed this way to spread in Bihar. And it is not like the government did not know about this. Mr. Ganesh got to know about this. Mr. Ganesh started saying this a few days ago that Bihar has to save himself from being pushed into tension. He had a hand in the paper. Yes, he was saying it with a strong hand. And he was sitting with him. He was also saying that I don't know what people are thinking next to me. So that means he was doing all this in a difficult way. This is a political thing. So now you are seeing how the political conspiracy is going on. About the sand beach and the political benefit. If you look at today's struggle, you can say that the struggle is of India versus Bihar. Bihar is of Mahagatvandan. But in these days, you are getting to see something else. You have to see how the future is going to be. But one thing is that the political parties of Dharmik Dhumikran tried to play the Hindu card in Bihar. And they want to take advantage of this in 2019. Because at the end of the election, all the basic issues of the country want to be gone. And the HMQ, which we call Hindu-Muslim questions, Hindu-Muslim debates, they want to fight it. So you know who needs to be benefited and who needs to be defeated. But Bihar's people have disobeyed this conspiracy. And this is why they disobeyed it. And this is why they disobeyed it. Because the majority of the people of Bihar, the majority of the people of Bihar, the majority of the people of Bihar, didn't support these riots. These riots are at their place. And the people are standing on their stand. If the population of Patna is 25-30 lakhs, and 5,000 people go down the street, then you can understand that they are not getting support. And this time you must have seen, that wherever there are these types of riots, I am saying again and again that they are engineered. They were in a district where there was no expectation. And Rangabad, there was nothing. How could it be there? Roshra. A very small city. Anumandilga. So many family members. Not at all. But you chose there. Navada was a little focused. Because of other political reasons. Munger. But you will see that wherever the government is in power, there, there is no tension. The tension was stopped after increasing. And one more thing you will see, people are fighting to fill the tension. Someone's marriage was going on with the police. So they took it out of anger in a different way. Someone's marriage was going on for the land. Someone's marriage was going on to build a temple. Someone's marriage was going on to reach near the mosque. So all these things were engineered. Where to speak, where to put the slogan. But the people of Bihar should be thankful. They have saved Bihar from burning. And the people of Rajniti have given a sign that Bihar is not going to come to your house. You said a very simple thing. An engineer was manufactured. He was made to polarise the society. You keep an eye on the state of Patna's Bihar. What do you think are the forces? Who will benefit from such tension? What is the role of Nitish Kumar in this episode? What is the benefit or the loss of Nitish Kumar? And on the other hand, there is an alliance of Congress and RJD. What is the benefit or the loss of Nitish Kumar? The word of Nitish Kumar is that he is a gang member. He tried to stop the gang, and try to stop the gang. The political mindset of the others, and those who take time and effort, you don't think about it as much. But Nitish Kumar understands the mind of Bihar. And at least he is not a gang member. And he is in this matter with power. Now, as far as the benefit and loss of Bihar is concerned, you also understand that the Hindus who play the Hindu card, they were trying to polarise it. And on the other hand, there are the people of Mysamikand, and the people with them. So, the attempt was that the communal tactic was like this. As long as Jai Sri Ram was said, nothing would have happened. It was because of Jai Sri Ram. As long as you used to say Jai Sri Ram, it was very love. As long as you engineered and said it, it was very love. Where did you say Jai Sri Ram, with a garada, a fruit, a sword, you used to say it. As long as Ram is the name of God, who did you stop in your mind? As long as Ram is the name of God, where do you stay? Sir, you are pointing to indirectly, Bijapi, that he wants to polarise the society of a communal card game. He will get an electoral gain in the election. There is a Lok Sabha election around the corner. He has started preparing for it. Why do you think that, since you keep an eye on the ground, is that Modi wave, which is said to be a phenomenon, that Modi is a phenomenon, is he gradually fading? Look, Modi is not a Mahal wave. In 2014, people used to call Modi blind love in 2014. But that love is over. Now love is with the principles, with the questions. Now people have started asking questions. What happened to Ruzgarh? What happened to Mahangai? What happened to Vikas? So when questions start asking, people start looking for other ways. Is that the same way of looking for other ways, to trap the Indian-Muslim debate, and get a political gain? Sir, there is a quick question. Netish Kumar has been quiet for a long time. He was very critical of his opposition. Two days ago, he gave a strong statement to his coalition partner, that we broke an alliance, because of our policy of zero-tolerance corruption. So our zero-tolerance is also in communalism. In a way, he directly attacked his coalition partner. He used a very strict word. What kind of statement is this? RGD or Congress as opposition party, is not so aggressive in Bihar. So is this pointing towards a new election? As soon as the new elections come, you can see that Siuswena ran away. TDP ran away. So in 2019, the vision that is being seen, has changed a lot. So in such a way, as much as there are regional parties, they will show their strength, and the threat that is being given, is that there has to be a very big debate about seat sharing. And this debate about seat sharing has not been solved. In 2014, Netish was not there. But in 2009, Netish was with BJP. So he was in charge of the big brother. Now, BJP is not going to believe in the big brother. If we believe in the big brother, if we believe in the older brother, this will be a big issue. So for this, the debate about seats, this is the same problem with Ramilas Paswan, this is the same problem with Upendra Kusbaha. So the debate about seats has also started. So for this, the pressure to be made, many excuses will also be made. But still remember, Netish Kumar is not the one who is going to make a mess. Netish Kumar is the one who is going to make a mess. Sir, I just remembered one more thing. You talked about Bajrang Dal. Bihar is a society, it is called an inclusive society. Leave some pockets, those who are communally sensitive, whose history is there, Nawada Bihar Sharif, leave some areas. So Bihar is a society, an inclusive society. There is no problem with Mr. Ahmad Sharma. And there is a lot of interdependence between one community and the other. You can see it in different fields. So this taunt of a society here is very strong. In this situation, all the French groups, who are being made the main stream group, are they accepting the same secular people of Bihar? No, Bihar people have answered. You have done a lot of engineering. And you couldn't do anything. Remember, Bihar has not given any casualty. You have done a lot of things, but there was no bloodshed in Bihar. So the people of Bihar, whether they are in Hindu or Muslim, have answered that we will not fight because of your saying. Mr. Sharma and Mr. Ahmad will be with you. And Bihar is going through peace. And Bihar is going through such tough times that he is not going to be influenced by the elections. Will Bihar keep giving the message of peace? So here we wrap up our discussion with the note that the major take away of this interview was Bihar's society has not been ruptured on communal lines. The entire effort to engineer that right was for political gains and nothing else which has been rejected by the secular people of this state. Thank you.