 Ya, you've talked about the creative economy. Yes. Next week, on the 25th of this month, that is in January, we've had Ezekiel Mutua say kwa mba, he has 20 million for 16,000 artists. But unfortunately, wana se mahiho pesa niki dogosana, because if that money was to be divided equally among the 16,000, apu niki lamutua na tokana daweyake, miambili na amsini. Ezekiel, doktor Ezekiel Mutua, you're my friend. Expect to trend badly with your money. You're my friend, I know MCSK, you have money, you want to distribute to these artists, but my friend, the creative economy is strengthening day by day. Artists are waking up day by day, expect to be on the wrong side of the artist that day, because you have their money. So there is money. There is money from MCSK, but there will be a problem distributing that money. Is there enough money for artists, because they say this is not... What have they been collecting? What has MCSK been collecting? So they should declare to me, collect he. Operating Kostni he, India artist, amam tombe, tuna kulaanga pesa artist, tuna tutaiku apati, like I'm saying the truth, he will collect this money. On behalf of artists, MCSK are the ones who are licensed by the Kenya copyright board, Kekobo, to collect money on behalf of artists. And remember, something you should know my dear Shikou, MCSK is not government. MCSK is a society, is formed willingly by artists, and they will reform your kitu. So, what will they reform? Artists will reform, I think in 1983 or 1989, you weren't born that time. When you were, 2006. So, she, I mean, MCSK, ni awasani kujitolea, wa collect. But, just as I've said, ita pitu anwa kati, na ita pitu anwa kati gani, whereby there will be a proper legal framework for creative economy. MCSK might not exist again. After the legal framework is put in place, the MCSK might not exist again. And Ezekil Mutua and the team from MCSK should know that. It might not be there forever. Your style of collecting money and all that, the way you're doing it, might not be acceptable in the future. The artistokionanapata elfumili, elfumoja, they might not want to be part of MCSK again. So, when you have these problems, just know you're losing. You're losing, Ezekil. I'll tell you the truth. And the plans for the future, whereby we know, we are younger than you, so we know. And the ones who are coming after us, they know better. They are not going to be part of MCSK. And one thing I can promise you, they will be once more Collective Management Authority, I mean, our organization, Moja, and ita kwa ya government. And it won't need any human interaction. Ita kwa system generated, whereby artists will be registered and it will be in charge of collecting artists' money. And that's it. So, I'm just giving a heads up. Ia pesa kwa kona yo, ita wai kwe inaf because if you give OG 2k, onam sa idea na nini, avu tumi e Saudi Soul 4k. Alavu tumi e King Kaka 3k. Alavu oni ma champion wetu, tumi e Major 600. Eh? Ki ariji, gada sijiwe me fukangapia, payo 40 bob. Na yo kelelea keote. Buga payo 40. What do you expect? Na ring, jubuga ni wa juzi, wama kuja jade, wama join MCSK juzi. Alavu uta paya nini nadiya. 14 bob. Do you think it atosha? Haiwezi, ma champion wetu, ma OG wetu, onam pewa 2500. What do you expect of the newbie? Una expect ni ni kenohti, adapewa ni ni? Una jua kenohti? Eh, una expect adapewa pesangapi? Una expect na ni? Karibu ni se metaila. Nika kumbuka ni wa South Africa. Na irasta. Una expect this? Gen Zizwangu, wada pewa ni ni? Gen Zizwangu, una expect adapewa ni ni? Shilingitano. So MCSK mani will never, ever be enough. So I don't know how you collect money, but just know zitainanga chini, your collection, tenda chini. Then the government must na mimini kengeniku wa mbungi. Oh, I'll fix that. You know there's something you mentioned, Kwamba maybe MCSK might not be there forever. Yes. And you also mentioned maybe probably in the future you'll have maybe one organization in charge of collecting artist money. That will be then in the system. Yeah, digitally. Unona bile hasla fund work. Tawala wuse mawa ifanye, ifanye juwajai jaribu. Hasla fund, awombangim tu pesa. You go and dial star five four. Star two five four, sorry. Star two five four hash. Una pewa pesa. You don't need anybody to confirm to you inida una pewa. So utano tewa mani una pewa you get 50k as a group. Nobody is giving you the money. Like you're not begging somebody to give you the money. A system generated together money. We must have one like that on behalf of artists and it cannot be owned by an individual. So probably you said the creative economy is so much close to you. Yes. And it's like parts of your calling. Yes. Now MCJC is it something that probably you're planning for Kenyan artist. Yes. To have the system now or the collecting moved from MCSK to now this that is done digital. Yes. It must happen. Whether it's me doing it whether it's the government or whatever. But lazima digital is here and it is here to stay and remain. Are you planning to spearhead? I will. I will. It may not be today. It may not be tomorrow. It may not be this time MCJC is now a member of parliament. But for sure it's going to happen. You're smart because I was about to ask you na fanya lini. Was any oku injo ameli asana. Watali ali akidogo until ikitwifanyike. Wacha tuku ena proper legal framework ya creative economy. And let me tell you I don't I don't I'm not there o kusifu o the president o ruto amefanya. No. Lakinia as long as I may address my issue which is the creative economy. As long as the president is addressing that we will remain friends. Io ye nye mimi utaka sana creative economy to saidi keuna nuliza o comedians wa mese ma evi o evi artist kwa ni atuku sa itu luku anakalgira fapa ena other main artist here I talk to kinabahati no I know si itu wakwanga artist we talk we know the kind of things we go through we are the senior artist right now in comedy. We know what ails us tunajua amali policies pierzina zineza sa idea tunajua how we don't earn the money that we're supposed to earn on YouTube on TikTok on did you know ma bechtezango eni wa ko UK na ma channel zao the moment they post their content that content is paid they earn they have some money coming zisi so we need policies that will transform Ioku an on digital platform sila zima nishindangia po nikienda safari kumkubego nipe advert no as long as I have views those views zinafa kulipa yes other countries wanakwanga na policies zinafa nya evo inawak China wu jai onatu video tu wa tu tumiketi kuwa bridge ata wa na sale yes they do the problem with us Kenya is we have not embraced like my shops za online kuza ma video tu and then wa tu anunu ekama MCJC ata ma tisha tini kuwa MCJC niende ko hale kuwa TikTok kuwa shops niziwe kia po wa sewa hode we don't have that culture we have the culture of kwangale moshene SPM buzz wana sana aje jesia na do evo tukona yo moshene sana but atuna yo kachaya ku go online ku shop for something unless someone comes up with an app ya shopping ekamas do you work but at you see Instagram ikona shop when you go there awa tu wa makingi peza mo because you don't have the culture of that but I'm telling you with time because my heart is for the creative industry sa itu ki push president naju ata fanya mpaka maleta fanya but at least I'm saying wu you president mi kwa isshuzangu mimi creative aa na tu skia na na ni skia when we go to Ababuna, Muamba, the CS to kiyongia mambua creative filmo kiyenda mambia please don't move us we want to remain in this ministry wana tu skia na wanacha did you know that ilikwene itua ministry of sports youth and the arts ruto agakuja aga change tena ikakua arts itaenda itaenda koa aisha jumua like gender arts and culture tuli kwa amatuka zema zi we are no longer called arts we are creative economy and we want to remain wu you see yes muena na tu elewa ababu endika kua tuka baki kuka kua arts ika enda tu arts zidi ni ni ni ni lakini creative economy ika baki na ika kua kadipatment kenya tuna tengeneza sa yaligo framework iku e alright it's quarter past midnight na takatumaliza intervei labda sababia muka kwa ni ngao gopa mi ni kwa apa unili zema mas tu menejo kuni patatana next to travel kuni lipa ok barat least to kutina na tena maybe ni neza zaka kuni tafutu upate mi ni e president so kuni pata ita kuwara isi oh wow but anyway you mentioned someone KRG the dawn yess buga e buga na mjua ni boysuanko ibu zuanko ni boys ee ni kicho ni maumene mi maumetaki kicho ee tawango ma pali vokolabu mordi na conscience ni to time bomb time bomb kia d Wuhan goma na conscience na nili yonna ee na jua na confirm ee ni tawango ma na conscience nili yonna simple boy piyame maumene ee algo na fah Kwa video vixin. Buga, lemi tell you this. Buga might not have the best voice ya kwa imba. Buga might not have the best songs kwa skiza. Ba buga is buga. Kairji, one thing ni mempenda ya, ni anaji skuma. Ea, adorwama mbue, adi kwa imba. Lakin ni anaji skuma zoi diawa loa tu anaji wa? Kwa imba? Una, dani anaji wa kwa imba. Mimi na fukiri ya e ni buga. Nimsani kulingana na? Kulingana mi kairji, nimsani ambae, nimsito na content. Ni apia ni content creator. Eo ni kuweli. Ni content creator ju every time atwa mbia mamba mingisana. Namzi kia ke we listen to it kwa it's funny music. It's funny. Na apia ikona yo ka dance al-kanda ting. I like that dance al-kanda ting. Mambo imechemuka. Apart from Mambo imechemuka, nga mga ni ake ingi nga naji? Sii, nga nga metua na conscience. Ya juice isu ali. Na nga nga jawna bila mkua video vixen kwa yunga, nga maya ke mwenyewe. Ipwa, alaba metua ka challenge apo. Ei, kalgo ka naleto lakin ni. Hiii, komsi komsa. But, buga na kwa mbia you must respect buga in the industry. Because he's the only artist manja meza. Kuja fanya collab na conscience. Maybe next utamona pana shandapala. Samiga sadem utamona apo. Next uskiya mefanya collab na Burning Spear. Is he still alive? But buga ha iyokuji skuma. He's the fact that minamueshi miya apo. About muziki tuta debate sana. Na mumwambia ni me sema. But tuzuri ajiokuji skuma naeni buga. That's why kuna mtu buga itwa buga. Leo tu memona ki splash pesa palivo. Pa kenya memungili ya? Pesa ya ukweli. You should have confirmed. Lakin ni, unadi uki yamon kufanya video. Uki ta kufanya video. Lazimot after props. Okay? Lazimot. Kama mukifanya drama festivals. Mlu kwa na props. Mkona kila kitu enye mna actinayo. Sua ta heali ju ane na kufanya. Yo sua katafta props. So whether ni do ya ukweli o not. Sua sa heali kuwa akufanya your time. Aukunotis kuwe video kuna kamsika li kwa kana zisongesha evi. Ndiya zisi end. So kama li kuwa. Kama ni mnoma. Asma me kimati street up o inche. Afanya evi. Afanya evo mambo imechemka. Eh tu go na kata o kota kitu. He's the camera. Zungumzana buga. Nni mumwambia jena na zampigia simu. Mumwambia apa evi sababu piyatunge. Penda kujua the conversation. Uga I want to give you a challenge. I know you have money. That's no doubt. Na na joko na props. Ebu yenda apu kimati street. Ini challenge tu. Ebu yenda kimati street. Ufa anya evo video li fa anya. Tuki dog o tu. Mambo imechemka. Eta kuru disya. So nama parentia how much. Iyo ena li distribute in tamru disya. Tamru disya. Wacha enda afanya. Kimati street up o inche. Apu inche anesha center. Mambo imechemka. Apu inche. Na enda. Na enda. Laki niyo video. Nila na kumtu kaki fagiya kiki ru disya. Una trakuo kwa. Uliwa na kukamtu. So I think zili kuwa props. All right. Thank you so much for your time. No, no. So you may enda in this conversation. Could go on and on and on and on. But asantisana. Any time. And wish you all the best. Ukon ambaba. Ukon ambaba. Squeezy. Squeezy. Squeezy. You know what's happening. And tunamali zi interviya zi kabla atu. That's why I'm asking you. Ukon ambaba. Okay. Na uliwa ni uliwa zi kitu about it. Yes. Do you know kuni pata uta kula shida zana kabla? Ni pata nekse. Ni uliwa zi kitu. I believe sita kula shida. Now. Yeah. Mbaba. Genzi. Tombi elabda. It was shiko. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Of course mwaka ijanza visuri. Next week we have a match. Against Femiside. As ladies. Not really. Not necessarily. Ladies peki. Ladies. Umteza kutembe ati. Oh my God. I can't imagine you're nice if you had to me. Me wek. Wek. Linda ni pata ni bele. Ni pata ni tunahenda wa api? Uhurupe. Munenda? From Givenji. Tu? I think parliament. Munatebe atu tau. Wait. Munatebe akunaka Givenji. Inpaka. Sinaga ni muna tokamaa lika mazaferipak. Umfiketao. Not sure enough. Buta jogorud. Enumkotu tau. So wait. We've seen- Kwatu akifanya maanda manu. Munatebe akunaka hapa. Mpaka jakaranda. Emakasi east. Babo weinu. Mwendo uko. Munatebe atao. Well it's okay. Uatse niku baliyana ni ni ma baby girls. Ni nima baby girls, so lazimam tembe. And in fact, amga tembe ya from jevanji to parliament. Mga toa ke ICC muende parliament. Jumta kwa in hills. You get ke ICC kuna attention na space. Alafu si ni isu klasi na si fa na parliament. Like oh my god tu na enda api mu na mbe na parle. Afu mu na handa. Lagi insa amga yo jevanji, amta ho na parliament. Uzo rinji wa na jwa. But for this, I know ladies are ready. Yes, ladies are ready. Well, this is a bit sad. It's sad what has been happening in the country and I personally condemn it with the highest order. It's not good because you can imagine the girls that are being killed in these places. They are our sisters, our brothers. You may think this thing is happening too far because that's not your relative. But the day it hits home, de ta kwenyesha, my friend, this thing is serious. Because when I saw the, like now for example, Pasta Kanyari's sister. Scarlet. Scarlet wahu. Mimia tukot na jwa na na scarlet wahu. No. But Pasta Kanyari tu na jwa na. We even hosted him on Churchill show one time agad fanya kutuka trendsana. So ule nim tu na jwa. Now you can imagine or seeing him, nike jembe, this is someone I know. Kanyari, me fanya vi tukozakiza po potassium, po magneto, whatever. Lakin nim tu tu na jwa, uyu ni rafikiye tu apa ana hongianga ki prijwi. Nii e nim tu tu, a real person here. Then the sister has been killed. So you can imagine. It's not a joking matter to that family. Na nim tu tu na jwa. And then we wahu elkwa to a media and all, I mean social media and all. And I think what will kwa namjwa. So it's not far. This other one, when I say, oh a lady has been killed, another one has jumped on a longatarood, si jumungi na me wahu api. It's because sometimes you have to feel ikomba ali. Mama someone watching us kisumu na kuru ke richu and all that and I say, ai naski ana irobi watu ana wawa. No bro, until it hits home, de ita kufili uchungu. So I condemn this. It shouldn't be happening at any, I don't think any man should be laying their hands on a woman to beat them or something. It doesn't matter kama ums chana amekuja baya bnb or whatever you want to say, oh was chana sasam jichungi, you're selling yourself short, oh nini it's all right kusema. But you see maybe wanomen du katiyama dem. Dem ana kuja because ameku trust. Then you as a man, you break that trust by killing her. She did not bring herself to be killed. No, she was looking for friendship. Tuki katiyama dem una katiyama dem ujui na e, aujuani na e, una mohangelesha na ingia box, diyo akuja a kuewa ako. So anaza ku trust. So you talk to her because ukuna confidence, na hiana ku respondia according to your confidence anaza ku build trust. So she's already at a disadvantaged position. Then you as a man, you take advantage of the fact that she's trusting you. You take advantage of her vulnerability to kill her. That's so wrong. That's immoral. That's demonic. That person belongs to the pit of hell. It shouldn't be happening. Women have trusted us, the men with their lives. That's why they, apa iwi sayile, tukuna ma dima apa, kutoke he, he, he, nyuotem na kimiha nyumayangu. To protect you. Alafu, atisa yo me kimiha nyumayangu, nyuwa protect and me I turn against, I turn na wangalia, I participate now kuakandamiza, kuawua, kuanyonga. Na muna kimiha kuangu, nyuwa protect from that thing. And then I turn against you, na wawua. You see, that is the biggest, God do not forgive the men that do that. Even beating, even your girlfriend, you shouldn't beat any woman. You shouldn't lay your hand on any woman. You're going to hell. A kuna maali kuabi bilia, niliwa na ono hake ono cha po. No, you don't beat women, you don't beat, wana waki wana pena kuonga, ata, siu muha cheyaonga aru pokuia imbe, amali ziafum umbe, come on babe, listen eh. Nivo, I guess I saw Kim Piga, hanangu wiyoku Piga. Go look for the men who came from Pigane. I saw another artist tapali kwa me changiwa pesa, na wawana Pigane a bibi nyumbani. How? What is his name? Alpha Monamtu. Why is he called Alpha? Should be Omega. Why are you beating a woman? Why are you fighting with a woman? Come on, machine don't have a penzi. Watch our end. Wambia too, listen babe. We can't do this. I'm off. Then go, amo mwambia, get out. Akumia siyendeji, obvious look yambia, dima hendi ata henda. Jifanya mwambia e buka apa babe, akunomaliun henda, unaka kwa inyumba ata henda. So we are now with them. Why are you fighting a woman? What, for what reason? Me, let me be honest, I might have made fun about how you're walking up o gaden, whatever, gaden, jivaji gaden stupaleme, but I would want to even participate in that. So you didn't get him yours? So solidarity with women, it shouldn't be happening. And I would even condemn any violence against him. Uki onamu e leonina dima, why are you beating her? Just let her be. Mwambia fanya evi, I'm not the right man for you, or I'm not better, or I'm not the man for you. Go find your match then. How possible solution to this and probably an advice to women as you end up? Also an advice to the girls. Get to know someone. The traditional way was, uki tu anamu mtu, unena na rafiki ako. You get? Nikikuita date, unakam na beshte ako. Yeah, uki tu mi na isapot sana, na uki anu yo chali, atiaiz yata kulipianin, yo uli na beshte ako, yo chahi, aqwende na uko. Yes. Move to the next. Move to the next. Why are you there? You as a woman, you are spoiled for choice. Men talk to you. Just know your time, piosipitu na taimi ako. Si zekesana uko, se waku kongelesha, hiku evendi u kongelesha na ume. Just know your timing. Chesana timing niya ako ya between 19 and 30. Yuki gonga 30 yi meno ita ngaoka, so watu atajiwa. Yuki nga meno, aya tawa hii. Ita ngaoka uki gonga 30. Ispo ngaoka, badu kukwa market. Lakin if the girls should understand, but the girls should understand that, don usikati ane na mtu online, ala wunenda kumuna peki ako, then na usiku. Amana kutumiya location niya, don't go. If for all the girls here, I'm talking to you, and especially my Gen Z's girls, listen, if a guy talks to you online, kama na kupa e date, there are many places in Nairobi, kuna oesta be iko open, kuna uko mami dadaziko open, kuna ma place uko, and then ikuiva basim chana. Mami ya atuna, mi tuma chana. Mami tumi e pin. Mami ya tuna nga oesta be. Apo inje, tuna nga mi land, yuki me jawa atumi. Napa kini na niya building, nga zifa niya kitu. Tunde jiminai inje. Endeni maali open, okay? Maali kuja na beshte ako. Ata kama uki kuja na beshte, fikeni mapema kablaikio ki niga, kikam. Fikeni mapema di umsorore, afka peki ako na beshte ako, pale. Mki angali e kikuje. Kikuje. Hei maapuda, how far now? Oh, I don't mean the Nigerians. Akuje tu akumbe, hei bro niya je, akuje. Muangali e ni. Someni rada. Napi aka kini na heine, wacha na nakiyo. Wow. So for girls ta fadali, umtu e kukatiya online, muangali, where are we meeting? Kama una ta kumjiwa zahidi, where are we meeting? Alafu zungu kwa zungu ako hei social media, angali unimtu eina gani, angali aka maa kuna ma beshte, alafu kutana na hei, then the next day tu muangali, I want to go where your friends are. Bahdo in public, kikuitata kama ni club, sawa enda, lakini angali na hangoutu na nani, then kana maa beshte kini umuza, wu boiz ako aje. But maa boi imu na jovenimu na joanga kutete ya na. Asa ingine, tunasemanga saile wu e chali ako apu. Tu kisha enda, ta kumbe ya wejiwa wani imujiinga, uskubali stories ake. Do you think it's time dating? Men break the brokod? Not really, not really. Dating sites are abolished, maybe in Kenya. Dating sites are not bad. Dating sites are not bad. Mekanizimia, how mutimit ndiyo, girls, wana faku kukua very careful, waremo weitu, all our girls should know, kama mtome sema tuonane, please make it public. Kama na sema kuna mpesa, kutani kempiski, kutani ni radison blue, ata wei kama dem, mpeleke place zene asipofika, wachana na akeo. Set standards. Set standards, guni wu na jitav tia masida mapema, ati babe tuta gropa moja, you go grow. You go grow then to me, tukumbe le. Ati grow together, those cases ni kidogo kidogo. Nasi ati I am advocating atilazi mo u date chaliya kuna pesa ni ni, but date chaliya na jijua. Mtuata at least a kuna vision, usiyu uziwe wu jinga, wuna wuziwe wu jinga nukame, tundorotrip. Aki saama ati jwome kuna na rage rover. Bro, what to hire? Ladies. What to hire ata gariya ku impressa kuka weekend? Alafu? Keshu ake, oh ada ni gariya bishti ake, just understand this, meet in public. Don't ataka wu kuna nyege aje, hold on your thighs, kidogo, don't go spreading them. Ati jwya pesa, jwya Instagram. Uta kwa kwa yaw Instagram kawme kufa. Wow, peri su. So please just take care of yourself, baby girls. Alafu kick at your online, please, please. Just ame umsim kutane place, place open. Place open. Kwa wat KICC? City hall. Kul sakaja mambe ni pace, pace. Niaje, ada ni boiz mpoa, mambe yo bo, gumimbo egze. Niaje, city hall. Sawam kutane wuko. Kessisi tau, kuna chalis tau, kuna nini, kuna tuplace, pronto, kutane kwa oriya. Awesiyu amtumbe lewa somali. Wara balahit alai. Uta pigwa. Ame kujo kwa ameru, wuko akraru. Una gong, nga moa namke kwa ni ni kumbaf. Jwa meru siya tchapangi madem. Uta pigwa na meru kujse. Gomit in public. Nama archives. Kutane ni archives. Do you know miimitukutana kutana? Tudema apo, apo ilikwenitua Nando's, sa ini galitos, apo moiaveni, apo karimu Mr. Price apo archives, isa idingine. Eitukutana kutana apo, nambiamtu itu kutane Nando's. Waiiji angonaji wa Nando's. Genzi itu galitos. Apo, kutane apo, alafu moingi apo ndani, akubaiye pizza. Nakuachi apo ndi upande gariya kwa, na kwa anguari Kencom. Watuakiliwa ndani ki na matu. So, na ni ni. That's it mua chane, but please don't meet him private. Eo ea bnb at less meter the ea bnb. Come on, close those ties. Next time. Let him earn it. Don't just give your cookie like that. Yeah. Alright, thank you so much for your word of advice and thank you so much for your time. And I wish you all the best. Thank you. Next time tuki kupige ukiwa kwenyo ofisi. Na manisha after 2027. Yes. Uzi, fani. So, guy, unakuja kuntaftan only after 2027? Not really. Oh. Kusimata eki kujapakachi. Oh, sawa, sawa. Thank you so much. And to everyone who has been watching this video as Santisana, remember you can find us on all platforms at SPM Buzz K.E. You can find me too at i underscore Amshiko Gitao on all platforms. I video eki trend mu ni pekakit. Sawa. Esken pa pa pa.