 What's up everybody and welcome back to For The Minions, the weekly podcast where we talk about all of the third-person mobas that we've got a lot going on for in the week of December. A little change of plans this time. My internet was down for about four days, so we do have no special guests, but we're still going to do the news and updates. I didn't do the poll and then for the topic, we're just going to talk about all the stuff that's been going on and will be going on for this month. I'm your host, TheMangus, joining me as always, even on such short notice as my friend and co-host Jelly Knees. How you doing, Jelly? I'm fantastic, Mangus, dude. I'm excited. You know, for years we've been like, I thought we could get more information from these companies and now everybody's giving information. It's like, wait, okay, hang on. I regret this. Blow it down, please, one at a time, one at a time. Yeah, it seems like they all picked the same time to start pelting us with updates. It's the season, I guess, man. We even had something for predecessor this week. We haven't had anything for predecessor like forever. So let's kick it off with the news and updates. We're going to start off with Fault this time because I think by the time that you're watching this, the Fault Patch 14 should be out and should be playable. And hopefully it's going well. I can't tell because we record two days prior to the airing of this show, so hopefully everything went all right. But yeah, we got lots of updates for them. Like I said, the patch should be out before we even get to the updates. Let's talk a little bit. We were just talking before we even started it up. This Patch 14 is kind of make or break for Fault. And that's like, to me, I'm both optimistic and nervous about the patch at the same time where I'm like, I'm super excited because it's going to bring a bunch of good things. But if those good things are not good, then it's really, really bad. So it could go either way. I'm cautiously optimistic for them. Yeah, same here. Like I've said a million times now, when people judge Fault they're judging their first release. They're not judging post-patch 13. I've been having so much fun with Fault post-patch 13. And I'm hoping that 14 doesn't just break everything. It doesn't break all their progress. Hopefully it builds upon what they've already made. If it's patch 13 with improvements, then I think they're going to be set because I think this new patch will pull people back into the game. And if there's enough there like the mastery skins and everything to keep people engaged, they could re-establish their player base and that's what they're missing right now. They just need people to be playing the game for it to be absolutely great. And when you're going with item updates, a map update phase, the mastery system, the AI, like all of these things are just good player improvement things that help everybody along the way. So as long as phase is pretty balanced when she comes out, as long as like everything is in a workable state, right? And even if they have to tweak like the mastery numbers just slightly or whatever it is, being as workable as possible is going to be the best thing for them. And hopefully after as long as it's been since patch 13, all of it is in that workable state. Yeah. I think it will be. I think this is going to be a big turnaround for Fault. I think they're going to see some improvement. Will they overcome the other companies? Who knows? We'll know that maybe a year from now, maybe, but this will definitely be a huge improvement for Fault. For updates, they let us know a couple of their different items that they were talking about. So we've got the Demon Sword, which is 40 physical power, 400 health, 10 cooldown reduction, and reduces physical armor by 5% on basic attack, lasts 6 seconds, stacks 6 times. And once you have it fully stacked, every attack gives 15% lifesteal on the target. They've been releasing some really powerful items. This seems like the answer to Severog is what this seems like. Yeah, absolutely. Not only does it shred your armor, it's also going to give you lifesteal when it's at max shred. Yeah. Why? Armor shred by itself is really strong. Giving an additional lifesteal boost at the end even more so because now carries take this item consistently because they can get the best of both worlds. I mean, this is the old syndrome quote from Incredibles is if everyone's super, no one is, right? And so they're just releasing these items where they can just be like, all of you are overpowered. Congrats. Like whatever is going to happen is going to happen. Nice Incredibles quote. I see this making Chimera just stupid overpowered, especially in the late game. I think Severog, there needs to be something to address Severog. Because I don't know if you've ever faced a good Severog that's well stacked before the late game. Oh, he's incredible. Yeah. It takes the entire team. And the whole time he's dealing a massive amount of damage too. So they do need something to answer Severog. This is a great answer for Severog, but like, this is going to make Chimera stupid overpowered because he has that attack speed boost baked into his kit. He'll be able to stack up these stacks to six really fast so that they're shredded armor. He'll also be stacking his health regen and then he's going to get 15% lifesteal on top of all of that. Chimera's going to be unkillable. Chimera and Boris too, Boris. Oh, God, yeah. I didn't think that. Rebi has been in a weird spot of either being broken or useless. And they've kind of left him in the more useless category for now. This item could bring Boris back up just by itself. You sniff somebody out. What is it? You say you snort the line of cocaine and then you just rush at him? Yeah. And then you're mauling people with lifesteal no less and unstoppable and all the other things Boris has. It could be the two of them I think are going to jump back up and play right. You're going to not see so much Kalari and Severog anymore. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah. Especially Severog, if he's jungling against Chimera or a Boris that has this item, he's just kind of fucked. I know. I can't wait. This item sounds super fun from a user standpoint. They all seem super fun from a user standpoint. Let's move on to the next one. Majus Siphon, 75 energy power, 200 health, range of mana. Another stacking item. This one though gives energy power and health and that max stacks, 75 being I think the maximum stacks you can get. You get a 10% discount on your mana discount on your abilities. I don't know how powerful that will be late game, but just the energy power and health stacking would be enough, I would think. Yeah. And I think this is going to be an item that mages, the really heavy casting mages take first. Right? They kind of, a lot of them feel like an identity of what item to take first. It's kind of just been like whatever you feel like in the moment. Whereas this now definitively states its place is like you take this early because you get that refund at max stacks to help you as long as possible. But also you get that increasing power over time. I think it's a brilliant item. It seems like the opposite to the one we talked about last week, I think, where it was the attack damage equivalent. Right. And so I think it's just the the mage version of that, but I get another very strong item in the early game for sure. Yeah, I can definitely see this being more of a first pickup than that physical power stacking item. For sure. Because it's got everything you want. It's got energy power. It's got health. It's got mana. For a squishy mage, especially with Kalari being as popular as she is right now. This is a good item because like you said, it gives you everything you need. It gives you a little more survivability and your abilities are cheaper. Like it's just across the board a good item for them. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to turn my nose up at discounted abilities. But like I lose, like I run out of mana a lot early game late game. I hardly ever managed hardly ever an issue. So I don't know, but still being able to not worry about it at all. It should be nice. Would be kind of nice. I mean, like I said, if everyone's broken, nobody is right. Yep. This next one's the one that I'm the most excited about the Knights battle plate. You get 300 health, 30 physical armor and 30 energy armor. This is one of the only items where you see both types of armor on one item. In the active, you get a shield for 100 plus 20% of your maximum health per nearby enemy hero for three seconds. But your damage output is dropped by 50%. And it's got a 60 second CDR. As a passive, you get eight physical and energy armor per nearby enemy. So this is just a straight up support tank item. Where you just sacrifice your damage, but you don't, you shouldn't need anyway. If you're supporting and you just gain a massive shield that you can just stick in there and fight out longer. Yeah. And if you combine this with last week's item that reflects damage and reduces the damage you take from crits. The two of these together. I mean, you're not going to die and you're going to reflect a ton of damage out to people. So it's going to be, I think those two items being together are going to be huge for the support tanks, but just tanks in generals too. Yeah. I really like this item because it gives you the chance to do what you're supposed to do as a tank. And a lot of times in especially MOBAs, you get melted before you can do anything. Like your job is to go in and disrupt. But as a support, you're kind of behind on gold and everything. So you don't have all the items you might necessarily need. Just this item alone would give you that ability to go in at least do some disruption. Maybe you'll die, but that's fine. If they waste a bunch of abilities on you, great. Then your team can roll over them. If you can trade one for three, then that's fine as a support. That's what you should be doing. If you can get away with it too, that's even better. Being able to take this on someone like Steel that can use his ult to go in and knock people up and then immediately gain 100% extra health, that's insane. That's a huge boost for Steel for tanks in general, but with the engage that Steel has, Steel especially. Yeah. Oh God, yeah. And then you can bull rush while they're still attacking you and putting displace one of them. You don't have to worry about getting killed before you can actually bull rush. Man, this is going to be a very strong... If used well, this is going to be a very strong item. They're all very, like we've been saying, all very strong items. Yeah. Other than that, I guess they had some server issues this week. I don't know, I wasn't able to play, but they got those fixed. It sounds like it was an Amazon or a greater internet issue. It wasn't directly them because there were outages all over the place. So, I mean, Mangus had an outage. It's Mangus' fault. He didn't have internet, so the internet reciprocated and said, nobody gets internet. His fault, blame Mangus, confirmed. The tree that fell on my power lines ruined it for everybody. Sounds like a Mangus tree. If I can't play, you can't either. I liked how they handled it though. They got on top of it, let people know what was going on. Yeah. I think that's about all they really say about that is, I think they handled it well. And then, they've been doing like a countdown till the patch, and we've been seeing some new map images along with that. They're kind of covered up by the countdown thing, but you can still peek around, look around in the background and see some stuff. This is kind of cool. For the most part, it looks like the lanes are staying relatively the same. There's slight variations in height or how they're oriented, but it looks like it's just a visual update to the map to make it look... Right now, it's kind of barebones. It's kind of like, yes, there's ground and grass. Congrats. And then you're walking around with the structures in the middle of all the lanes. And I think this is really going to set it up to look more visually stunning and just set them up to feel better when you're walking around the map. Their map was... They had a really nice map before and they had to tone it down because they didn't have it optimized at all. Hopefully, this will be a version of that that's better optimized. Yeah, absolutely. Alright, cool. Do you have anything else to say about fault? No, I can't wait to see what patch 14 does and how people will receive it. So I think next week, I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about in that regard. Oh, I'm going to be a partner again. The main goose is a partner again. I renewed my fault partnership. Alright, perfect. Now it's time to talk all the crap so that when you post for the minions, you look like a partner supporting the bad things about the game. Let's move on to... Let's talk about Over Prime. Just publicly, they announced the winners for their meme event and there was like 30 of them or something like that. I still don't know about the other event that they had, but it's cool. If you won, congratulations. You get a $100 steam gift card, but everybody else still gets the $10 in-game currency, so everybody's a winner there. And then on the other end, though, they gave us... They gave content creators, I guess the Over Prime partners, I guess you would call them, some exclusive stuff and we got it. So we got first, let's talk about this skin. I thought it might be steel. You thought it might be Orb Prime, but it could also be Rampage, I think. Yeah, absolutely. Rampage is old, always inflates its top half, and that's kind of what this looks like, is that it's an inflated top half. So absolutely could be a Rampage skin. And the old arcade game Rampage had a gorilla, so maybe there's a connection there. I don't know one of my favorite games from childhood. If that's the case, I will buy this skin. If it's a Rampage skin, I will buy it, I don't care. Oh, I didn't even think of that. But I think it's probably going to be a Prime skin, right? Orb Prime has always kind of had those gorilla tendencies, the way he stands, the way he attacks and all those things. So I feel like it'd be a good skin to just throw out there, in addition to the destroyer skin that we have images for and the short video. I think it fits more that way, but honestly could be anything. At first I thought it was steel, just because I was thinking, like if you look at the Mayan steel skin, it kind of looks like that, but the proportions are off. So I think it's more likely to be a Rampage skin or an Orb Prime skin than a Steel skin. That was my first impression. I think I was wrong. Yeah, man, goose, gosh. That's what happened when you don't have internet for several days. You just turned into a wrong guy. Speaking of that destroyer thing, we got a new image of that. And then we got a little video of it beating the shit out of the ground, like two of them. It looks incredible. The animations are solid. You feel the weight behind them. The visual effects on the claws look really nice. I think overall really cool. We haven't gotten confirmation that it is an Orb Prime skin, right? I think that more solidifies it for me that it's probably an Orb Prime skin, being the purple color, the giant thing. It looks like that's going to be its attack when it's attacking towers. But who knows? Maybe it's still a hero and that's just a basic attack animation. I have no idea. That's the fun of Orb Prime trying to figure this shit out. What's that skin? What's that thing? Coming out of nowhere. Coming out of the left field with this stuff. The last thing was Boris, which it just looked like they did some color changes and some texture stuff with him, which still looks a lot like Boris. Yeah. Not everything's going to be a complete change. I think it definitely helps, but it's not huge in that regard, right? It's just visual changes. All right, cool. Whatever. Unless they're telling me that's a skin, in which case that's dumb. Yeah. That's going to be a very basic skin for him that's essentially a recolor. No, I'm sorry, that's dumb. You know what I was thinking when I saw this? Orb Prime has had Boris for a while, I think longer than Fault has, but I, in my head, connect Boris with Fault anymore just because he's been playable in Fault for so long. Yeah, I do too. He's been playable in Paragon, so I just think of him as a Fault hero. I mean, that's one of the benefits of having released him first, essentially, or more publicly first, is that you get the association with your game, but the downside to that we've talked about in weeks past is now every other Boris is going to be compared to Fault? Yeah. No, they just did Boris better. So it's a double-edged sword. Oh, I don't know, we'll see. His kit was actually quite similar in between the two. Did you ever play him in Orb Prime? I did not. The only big difference, I think, is that he had a charge. Okay. On one of his abilities, where he would charge towards someone, gain more speed as he went, and then when he hit them, he would be stunned, and they would be stunned. Like, you'd both be stunned when you ran into them. All right. I could see that. That's kind of a cool idea. Yeah. I don't know if that'll stay. I don't know if that'll stick. I don't know if that'll be the Boris that they go with, but that's what it used to be. I don't know, man. Snorting Cocaine Boris is kind of pretty fun. I'm not going to lie. He is. He is. Oh, let's move on now to predecessor. I'm going to make you wait for ethereal predecessor for the first time in forever has got an update. It was just an image of the new map where they've been working on some map details. Looks gorgeous. I don't know what that's rendered out, but they were also talking about their they're trying to optimize the game as well. So what would you think of the map image? I think I think it's probably rendered at the highest resolution they can. So probably for 4k at minimum. It looks incredible. I love the detailing. The leaves have definition to them, but they're not just blending into the background. The walls, you can kind of see the texture on them and it feels good to look at. It's pleasing to look at. It's not too much. They hit a little chimera down in the bottom corner somewhere, which was fun. Oh, they didn't see that. Yeah. He's like hiding behind a wall, like peeking around. It's so weird. But overall, I think it looks incredible. And I can't wait to hear more about when we can play the game again. Why are we losing our minds and anguished? Creeper chimera skin. I love it. Yeah, I didn't see that at all. Give him a Freddy Kruger skin, man. Turn his axes into just long claws. Maybe just Malaya. You're not wrong, but... Oh, we should get a genderbender or Freddy Kruger skin for Malaya. Oh, I'm down. I'm so down. Oh, and make it happen. Well, since we're already talking about ethereal, let's move on to ethereal. That's all we had from Pred was that map, really. Not much out of you guys this week, either. There was the Lea theme, which was amazing. It sounded exact... For once, it sounded exactly the way that I thought it was going to sound. Yeah. This is a really good theme. It just... Encaptures the jungle vibe that Lea gives off. Being the heiress of the jungle. To me, that's the entire vibe. Listening to that, I'm just like, yeah, I can get behind this. I could listen to this while running through the jungle, 100%. It just fits really well. It's got jungle drums in the background and everything. One of the comments I saw in the video, somebody said they could picture themselves flying along and listening to that. Yeah, that's really cool. You guys keep doing really well with these. The thing is, Dante's theme is so much more different than any of the other themes. The other themes are different, but it's a different variation of classical, I would say, like modern classical. Whereas Dante is just straight up dubstep. I don't know. Dante's to me is like Dante mixed it himself. Yeah. Right? The others, I wrote for them and like presented them. But Dante is just like in his castle, like just jamming out trying to do this together. He's like, oh, he's like, oh, yeah, Dante style. Right? Like 100%. We can see Dante doing that. That's the best part. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I loved it. Just like I've loved every single every single theme that's coming out for you guys. Yeah, man, we're just gearing up for the stress test on the 18th. So it's going to be fun. It's going to be so good. Yeah. And all right, let's move on. Popularity poll wouldn't do it this week. That's going to bug me forever, too, that I have a hole in my. In my stats. Let me let me just make up the stats. Aetherial 99%. Oh, yeah. Everybody else sharing the 1% remaining. Wow, what a great popular. Look at that. I think you definitely should keep that one in your records. Like what happened this week that Aetherial popped up to 99%. That's crazy. Aetherial promised everybody a gold bar if they voted for them. A gold bar. I wouldn't even know what to do with a gold bar. I don't think anybody would. They'd just be like, I now own a gold bar. Like, where do I get money for this? Oh, shit. So, uh, all right, let's let's recap. What's been going on and what is happening this month. So this month we got the long awaited patch 14 from fault. We've got Aetherial's stress test, second stress test on the 18th. And then we're pretty sure that something's going to come out of overprime this month. So, I mean, according to their, their whatever timeline, they would release several months ago, they were saying that quarter four, here we are. This is quarter four. This is quarter four. Yeah, but they still have a ways to go in quarter four, but I the word on the street is that something's coming out this month, like whether that be the actual release of the closed beta or if that's like a free alpha weekend or something like that. I have no idea. You would think I would know being on there, being in their inner circle, but I don't. Gosh, man, goose. How dare you not know. I know, right. But yeah, I mean, and maybe we'll get something from predecessor. They've said it like a hundred times at this point with every announcement they've made since their last stress test, like we'll share more details soon. When one month later, starting to feel like a therial in that regard of like, yeah, soon things are happening, right? Like it's because their map teaser said the same thing of like, we'll share more. We're excited to share more details soon, meaning this month, like everybody else because that could be a mean week for them. All predecessor updates are just the SpongeBob several hours later. Perfect. Oh, yeah. But I mean, it would be nice if something came out of them because like, like we said, excluding their last stress test, everything that's come out of them has been fucking amazing and just super fun to play. It's so weird that stuff is actually moving. You know what I mean? Seriously. I mean, that's kind of why you restarted for the minions as a whole anyway. But to think two years ago, two years ago, I was on for the minions and that was for the minions like 48, right? And so that's three years ago you started doing the show and now we're finally getting updates consistently from almost all of these companies. And the games are actually releasing. Like when I started like tracking these like what 2018 or something. Like I thought it would be like two years and we would have something. Here we are. Like Fred was saying, oh, I have an alpha in March and like Cora was like, oh our alpha is April 26th and like the pred that pred that they did have their alpha the game shit the bed, which is fine because they you know, that's what they wanted. They wanted to find out what they needed to improve. But I didn't expect it to be so goddamn long between that alpha and then the next one. It was like a year before we saw anything for pred again. And then Cora just completely shit the bed and I haven't seen nothing from them. Just an announcement that they're not going to be even using the Paragon assets anymore, which was like over a year ago and I haven't heard anything since. Yeah. It was weird that like I had my hopes up everybody else had their hopes up or all taken like oh, this is going to be sweet. And it's coming so soon like look at all the progress they're making. And it's now December of 2021 that shit is finally moving. With the exception of course of fault fault did release like what a over a year year ago July. Yeah. July came out of nowhere with theirs. But. Like this feels like a new era for fault. Like this feels like it's as much of a release for fault as it is for over prime in ethereal. And it feels like in a good way for for us the gamers right and the consumers of these games is that they're all pushing each other. Right. I think the reason we're seeing so many announcements all at the same time is because all of these games are starting to push announcements. So right you see you see it all the time that one game will make an announcement and then like the next day or two days later suddenly all the others make an announcement. It's like this is fishy. Okay. Something doesn't add up. I know every time I post an ethereal announcement I like to twiddle my fingers and wait because I know I'm like someone's going to do it. I'm going to post an announcement too. Like I just one of those things that we're seeing the trend of and so I think they're all pushing each other to become to to release more information and give more back out to their communities. That's kind of the benefit from our end of them not like you see all the time the comments about they should just all merge into one company. Well the benefit from our end of them not merging is that they are going to compete and try and create a better better product just to outdo the others. So speaking of though actually man goose I want to get your opinion on something this week. I was hearing from multiple people in the pred discord that predecessor does not consider overprime a competitor or a MOBA. That one of their mods was saying this in their discord that overprime is not considered a competitor or a MOBA. That was a predecessor discord. Yeah. You know what they they got swagger and they have every right to be because most the vast majority of the old Paragon refugee community is behind predecessor. But they need to and well Smokey has been saying from the beginning he never looks at anybody as a as a competitor. He's just trying to make his own game. But God damn they really need to take overprime into consideration when they're doing anything because like we've said before they need to look at these other companies as competitors or else they're going to get they're going to lose the race. They need to do something and overprime is definitely stepped up and they are they are a competitor. Maybe they're not a traditional MOBA maybe they're not exactly like Paragon was but they're a competitor. They're in this space and they've been making huge moves. It's just been a deluge of information from overprime recently. And like everything is kind of base like all their stuff that they've released. That's just base. Like that's going to improve from what it is now. Like Yeah. They really need to they can't they can't be sleeping on anybody. They can't sleep. They can't sleep on overprime. They certainly can't sleep on ethereal overprime and fault and pred pulling different sides of the Paragon refugees. But that's still pulling from the same base. That's not something they can just ignore. They can't say that like because they're pulling different people we don't have to worry about them because all it takes is a flip of a switch and they start pulling your people. Right. And so you have to consider that because they're almost the same as you are. Right. Different speed different slightly different a flip of a switch and they could easily start pulling those people across. I have a I have a theory I've been working through in my head too. I think a lot of people I've said this before they remember themselves being way better at Paragon than they actually are and they're out of practice. I think a lot of them came into fault thinking that they were going to kick ass and then they just got their shit kicked in. They're like well this game sucks. I know a better Paragon than this. Then they're going to move on the over prime. Get their shit kicked in. Oh this game sucks too. I can't wait till Fred comes out. Then Fred's going to come out. They're going to get their shit kicked in. They're going against the jelly goose combo in predecessor. They're going to they're definitely going to lose. Yeah. Especially if they don't ward. Shots fired. Yes. I think that's one thing that's going to happen but even more so like like I've said I keep saying that over and over throughout this entire show. I need to I need to stop saying that. Like I've said before. Like I said back in my day even when the Paragon first shut down and I was only one track. Youngblood here man goose. I got to keep you in line. But now they the community shifts. The community shifts. Everybody was all about core. Everybody can't give a shit about predecessor. And then everybody cared about predecessor that we gave gave a shit about core. Then everybody gave everybody cared about fault nobody gave shit about predecessor anymore. Now everybody cares about predecessor they'll give a shit about fault anymore. And then I can see over problem coming everybody move on over and over prime. You do have the ones that just stick with that are very faithful to the game as if that's going to curry them favor with the devs and it's not but that's something I support people trying all the games. But don't just assume that just that right now because the one game is ahead that it's always going to be ahead. And I think we've talked about in the past putting blinders up to the other games as a fan too is not beneficial. Right. Right. In just being like all these other games are trash predecessors the best right like that doesn't do anything productive for anybody. Right. And the second you switch over people are going to remember you being the predecessor shill and just being like what about predecessor? Right. Like it's one of the things Shad QQ in the ethereal community is die hard ethereal. Right. Everything every post he talks about ethereal. He does this but he never goes so far to say the other games are shit. Right. And you'll even compliment some of the other games or some of the some of the stuff. Yeah. He'll say like fault looks really good but I'm an ethereal guy. That's a preference more power to you but he doesn't feel the need to go out and bash the other titles because he's an ethereal guy. Right. And I think if we could all embody that a little bit more it would just be beneficial for all the games going forward and put the best foot forward for all of them. Yeah. I don't know man. I mean from right now it quality wise I think predecessor is in the lead from what I've played. Absolutely. Like they have the lead in the fan base and they have the and it's because they have such a quality product. But I think another thing that people aren't considering fault actually has a really good game loop like they have it fine tuned. Rotations are fine tuned. The heroes are actually pretty balanced. A lot of people will laugh at that and say oh this hero is fucking nose because you just it that depends on the game. If you're getting rolled you're getting rolled it doesn't matter what hero somebody's on. But yeah they've had a lot more time to adjust their game to what it needs to be. So I think people need to take that into consideration that fault may just be far more balanced the predecessor for a while. I'm not saying the predecessor won't catch up and they probably will quite quickly but like we've seen from the predecessor their first iterations that ADCs were just stupid overpowered. Like people were taking ADCs in whatever fucking lane they wanted and dominating with them. Yeah absolutely. That's something fault has had time to pair down and so that an ADC feels powerful enough early game that they don't feel weak. But they're also not just three-shotting people like from level one. You mean triple grenade twin blast is not okay. Well okay see yeah yeah that's a great example they learned that they can't just have him be able to spam all three grenades at once and now there's a delay in that shit. And that's all those patches add up. Absolutely. And the the big thing that is yet to be seen from any of these games outside of fault is what does the game feel like to play after your rose colored glasses are removed. Right. Because predecessors only had weekends and you've seen by the end of those weekends people starting to starting to lose those glasses and starting to have realizations about like the carries are not balanced the itemization is not balanced these items are inherently broken useless whatever it is. Right. That starts to come off and that's only after three days. So when the game is playable in a much longer extent that they have to combat that and they have to combat the fatigue that's in after it's not that new feeling all the time. Right. I have full confidence in Omega that they'll be able to address that quickly but again they're they're behind they're behind fault as far as that sort of thing goes they for every patch that fault has had they're on 14 points something right now 13.6 and 13.7 and 12.14 and whatever the fuck else they've had those were all things that they realized were wrong with the game and then and then they fixed it. So the game is in a very good state right now and with patch 14 coming out people are going to start playing it and then we'll start realizing that false no joke. Yeah they have a years over a year's worth of consistent play that they've learned from right and none of the other companies have that right now. Yeah. A lot of people don't realize like when I put out shorts a vast majority about 90% of the shorts that I put out are from fault but they all think it's Paragon. They think it's old Paragon clips. It's false that good that people are fooled into thinking that is Paragon. Yeah absolutely. Man I can't wait. This is such an exciting it's an exciting time to be a pair of refugee I'll tell you what finally. Finally. I can't wait in a year or two years to see where we're at when we're on four the minions 250 right where where is this where are we going to be at like who's who's going to be the reigning title who's going to have the best feeling who's going to like all of these things are going to be so different in two years if they're all getting ready to release right about now. Somehow phoenix rising is back on top like what the fuck happened. Yeah I mean after the last couple of years Vegas you never know you really don't. Oh God you really don't. I know I was starting to really think that ethereal was never just just ever going to come out and I was starting to be very fucking depressed about that. There are so many alpha dates that were missed and then so many reworks and everything I was like this game is just not going to come out. Here we are with a second stress test. It's happening. First one didn't go great but a lot of people got at least three or four games in and everybody that had those games a ton of fun and I 100% agree the game was a ton of fun and then we're going to have another one of these stress test hopefully it'll go a lot better and prep you guys for a pre-alpha very soon. Yeah absolutely. Exciting times for sure like it's can't wait to see what goes on. A lot of people don't seem to realize ethereal has actually been in development longer than any of the rest of them. Which makes sense because they had to make a lot more shit than oh yeah anybody else. They weren't given all the epic assets unfortunately. Yeah. So Freddie Krueger Malayaskin win. Yeah I mean talk to Owen I'll put it up there here Owen I am endorsing this please. You know what oh you know what skin I want for her. You ever played bloody roar that old fighting game. No. What you never played bloody roar repeat you like your power up you turn into an animal like everybody had their fighting style based on an animal that one guy was one guy was one guy was a mole and he had giant hands with claws. I want that skin You want a mole Malayaskin. Yes. Yes I do. All right. Perfect. Oh and make it happen. Manga said just realize Manga we sound like two old men like sitting on the porch talking about the glory days of like you know back when Paragon was the thing that's what's going to be like retirement homes like when I'm in a retirement home it's going to be a bunch of old dudes talking about the video I asked. I love it. I love that. It's going to be great. It is. It is. Like I go to my mom's house and they're always watching like old black and white movies like AMC and shit like like when I'm in when I'm their age it's going to be like old e-sports tournaments. This was the patch Wukong came out like ESPN classic can't wait ugh yeah alright man I think that's about all I had to say yeah that's it yeah it was fun to just kind of chill out and not have a serious topic to talk about even though we did get a little serious here and there that's who we are though yeah exactly that's who we are don't forget it yeah when Manga says internet otherwise that's not the case fuck and where I live too like I can't even use my phone like before when my internet was out I just used my phone and like did the wifi hotspot do not have nearly enough service to do that I could barely even have a fucking phone call where I live oh west Virginia alright shit do you have anything to plug Jelly? just my twitch doing marvelous Mondays every Monday at 8 o'clock mountain time 8 p.m. mountain time and maybe I'll stream some fault this weekend depending on how much time I have the theory of course so it all depends yeah what about you Mingus mountain time mountain time I really got nothing to plug nothing to plug I'm trying to try and catch up do some videos I did a short today and it felt good that I hadn't done any creation and so long alright shit I think that's gonna wrap it up for this week let us know in the comments what you think about anything especially if you disagree with us at this point I do love to discuss with people and try and figure out where their heads are at when they when they disagree with something we say and if you agree with us then you know throw that in the comments too I don't give a shit I also talk to you about that too and again if you do want to co-host I know this only had the two of us but I do want to have co-host and if you like somebody was saying in the comments Demon was saying that they didn't think that they were prepared to really talk about if you ask me now to give you on the show you got about two months to catch up so unless everybody cancels but yeah I think that's gonna wrap it up for this week folks thanks for coming out if you're watching the premiere if you're watching the video thanks for watching anyway if you liked it hit the like button subscribe if you want to see more of this type of content but for now let's sign off Jelly man gooooo shout out to channel members foolish blood hunter jelly knees meow mix for men stunt and ferret