 live and boy did I forget which day it was and so it is Sunday and that means it should have been a art learning stream today learn how to draw draw how stream as I call it where we follow George Bridgeman's book page by page in order to get better at drawing but I simply forgot which day it was at all so so so instead of doing that a couple of hours late which would have been no fun and I need to turn off the sound on my phone so we don't get interrupted yeah so so instead of doing a late art stream I thought I'd do a little Q&A and try to answer questions from you guys like your beard thank you hello everyone and basically what I have to say first so for those who see the stream afterwards I'm preparing for the inferno festival and I'm behind on everything of my work so the streams will have to wait until after Easter and after I'm home from inferno the same goes for for patron updates and member updates I just taken too much work on that's you know that's the sickness I guess how are you I am tired and stressed that's how I am your beard looks like an upside down heart nice I hope everyone is having a good day I am having a good day it's just a stressful period because I've taken on too much I was so happy on draw what thank you because you got the Loch Ness Monster yes I remember my favorite youtuber aren't you always tired and stressed most of the time yeah most of the time that is correct I have created a tiresome and stressful life for myself so so yeah what time is it there what time is it I don't know it's almost nine hey bro how are you how are you loved my Loch Ness Monster excellent is it okay if I watch your videos even though I disagree with some of your beliefs I'm always nervous to watch people that have really different opinions so to be quite honest I don't even agree with all my opinions I think that one of the reasons why we speak and why we put videos and art and other communications out there is to see if our thoughts ring true and sometimes they do and sometimes they don't I don't require or expect or even hope that my audience agrees with everything I say because that would be stupid because I probably say some stupid shit once in a while so I need you guys to help me identify the stupid shit I say sometimes it'll work other times I'll be too stupid to understand it lego lego time to start making questions make some questions what do you do when you're stressed and tired like to feel better the best thing for me would be to go out running and mountain running works apart from that weightlifting works and apart from that I know if I'm just going to relax I like gaming I that's my preferred mode of relaxation don't say no to words when did you and what drove you to paint your nails I probably started painting my nails when I was like 16 years old as a part of you know toying around with gender expression and identity and all that stuff and then because of my bipolar depressions I took a deliberate stand to stop worrying about my looks stop obsessing about that part and then I became this long-haired bearded old man so but after I think like 15 years of not painting my nails I started to do it again because it feels good your art has definitely inspired me what is a good tactic for improvement and that sort of depends do I always go for black nails okay now these nails aren't I need to apply new but no there's no black here improvement yeah the most important thing is to draw a lot and to have fun and I think it's a cycle of three things you need to do you need to have fun and play then you need to find through play find things to study and through study find things to execute and you can mix those three in all different in all different directions but those three is play study and execution that's all it is without beard you are incomplete and my wife's thing so I love your art your channel everything you're one of my favorite artisan creatures thank you what's your favorite black band and your favorite death metal band my favorite band quit last week stick it see it never heard of them a black metal band my favorite right now it is Witch Club Satan I'm totally obsessed with the new Witch Club Satan album otherwise a little bit older I think you know bands like Rotten Christ Swedish Shining Udvost more black metal adjacent things like enslaved the mood is good talk is great yeah loads of bands I recently gotten into more of Ishaan stuff very cool very good okay great when's the next play date with Scott the first Saturday of next month what are you going to draw did I have no plans did Tim Burton change your style a bit it remind me of it did is there an influence of Tim Burton in my art that's a good question because I a nightmare before Christmas was incredibly impactful on me but I think also at the same time there come came this just this tsunami of Tim Burton the likes and I quickly became a little bit sick of that style but there were a few sort of Burton the likes that definitely influenced me more than Burton himself and that was your Yonan Vasquez with Johnny the homicidal maniac that was incredibly influential on my art style hey man love you and everything you do I tell all my friends about you because I think you speak up about many things that people are afraid to talk about thank you for doing what you do thank you for telling your friends I mean that is an awesome way of spreading the most reliable way I have of spreading my art spreading my words and you know making a living of this is that people tell people word of mouth is powerful what do people mostly think about you when they meet you for the first time I'm not the correct person to ask about that I have never met myself for the first time I'd probably think I was a bit of a dick favorite web series like web TV series I what do you mean by web series I've been a fan of your work for a while and I was wondering what advice you have for young artists out there such as myself as to build their own image and getting their creations out there so hmm hmm that is a really good question I'll think a little bit about it while I show some of the paper I use because that's easier so here are a couple of the different papers I use oh it's pointed the wrong way sorry about that Fabriano hot press paper and we got some Fabriano mixed media paper and most of what I do uses Fabriano student-grade drawing paper 300 grams and so and the reason why it's Fabriano is that you know there are many great brands out there but my local art store has a lot of good Fabriano papers so I need to go back ever since we made the short on Imperial Triumphant I began to immerse myself further and further in the New York City underground scene Piran skull shitter and couch slut have all been amazing great names haven't heard any of them I probably need to to look into that scene yeah so there was this question about as a young artist how do you get your image and art out there and I I I can tell you a little bit about some of the mistakes that I see young artists doing one of them is that now I'm assuming that you're technically you're good you you are proficient enough to be professional you have a style of your own it might be a style in development but you have a style and you have your fundamentals good enough if not then that's what you need to work for you don't need to think about image when you don't have the art down the art comes first but but the first mistake I see is that a lot of young artists will put themselves in a very small niche and you often hear this advice that you should niche down so they make an Instagram account called fussy bear lady artist I draw pussy bear ladies because why wouldn't you and when you sort of limit your niche in the name in the presentation in everything when you define yourself like that metal artist supreme whatever then you don't have the room to improvise now I have a supremely stupid social media name I'm called then only had home which means the young mr. Holm which is I'm not young anymore and no one understands Norwegian so it's a really stupid name to have but it does allow for flexibility and I didn't know that ink monsters would be my biggest claim to fame right now and I'm very happy that I didn't name my YouTube and my Instagram ink monster guy because that would have been limited so first of all don't limit yourself and then second experiment have fun and find ways of being yourself on social media artists have a huge advantage because our art is an extension of our self and if people are interested in our art they a lot of them are also in some way interested in us so instead of trying to find an image or trying to I mean we all build our artist mythology but but instead of trying to push that forward you find ways of showing yourself and for me talking to a camera works and writing stories and telling mythology and that works for me but for other artists it can be completely different find ways of showing yourself and narrowing down your image is only really good to get yourself in the market for art which says a lot about capitalism but that's what it is you won't be able to branch out yeah and I think I think a better thing and would have been wise to say to me as well when I was young would be just to name yourself your art name and then be flexible with the niche and you can niche down without having that define your identity I think jamer jamer crates that's why I chose my name I knew I'd be able to create a ton of things have you heard of Jack Storber no have you heard of tally hall what's your favorite song I haven't heard of tally hall are you planning for more collabs with different painters that would be that would be very yeah I would love to I have no current plans but at the inferno festival I will be collaborating with artist and musician Costin Cherno and we will be doing a performance of four lovecraft stories which will be awesome and I'm practicing so much for that right now any particular song you've been listening to a lot lately yeah lately yes so I've been listening to so much of of which club Satan's debut album I absolutely love it the two songs there are many good songs I mean hex is fantastic salvation is fantastic fresh blood fresh pussy is great but the two songs that have been going in my head the most is I was made by fire and mother and especially mother it's I think mother by which club Satan is absolutely astounding in addition to that I've been listening to the new priest and priest is my all-time favorite I'm a Judas Priest fanboy I'm not a fanboy about any other band the same way that I love priest and it's been kind of telling that that I like the new priest record but I've been rather wanting to listen to which club Satan again so so that's tells you something about the space I'm at but the new priest album is great and there are a couple of songs that have been stuck on my mind and one of them is with God with God asked my witness God is my witness with God is my with what is it called with God is yeah God is my witness I think it's called something like that and which is a banger and then escape from reality so far thank you for your advice I originally found your channel for my love of all things mythology and your art has been really inspiring thank you can you talk about time you are children what I didn't understand that I must say your recent fuck-off series was amazing radical inclusivity doesn't make sense to the bigots but it hit me right in the cockles of my heart yeah so so the point that a lot of bigots do not understand about respecting everyone and I want to make a video about this as well but when people ask yeah but but do you respect fascists that then the answer is yeah so far as I can I do but the problem is if they are serious about their ideology their ideology says people like me for my political beliefs for my sexuality for a bunch of things should be put against the wall and shot and believing that about another person is a huge sign of disrespect that is like spitting in the face of someone same goes with with fundamentalist Christians I have no or Muslims or whatever I have no problems with religious people but if you feel that I deserve to burn eternally in hell for not accepting your God then that is actually spitting in the face of the one you're talking to it is so incredibly disrespectful and when you're met with that level of disrespect you're allowed to use self-defense and disrespect them back you can 100% disagree without being disrespectful yes you can and I I mean so many weird and wonderful people with extremely different beliefs than mine and they're all fantastic but at some point and this happens mostly on the right side and the conservative side of politics but also on the left side of politics when your ideology or opinions by default dehumanizes and spits on others you don't deserve respect you by acting disrespectfully you have thrown away your claim to respect I always wonder if they mean the hell in Norway or Michigan because I need to know if I need to get my passport yeah I love the terminal at the train station in hell Norway because in Norway the Norwegian word for freight as in a freight train is so on the terminal in hell the little town of hell it says hell god's terminal I think that is fantastic respect until you affect others yes that is you affect others to a degree we all affect others but but until you demand the punishment or making life worse for others to satisfy your ego or ideology I mean you know it is it is it's always a sort of a loose it's not easy to put strict boundaries on this for for instance working as an artist working I mean just working at all you meet meet a lot of people who believe truly in capitalism and I think that capitalism and specifically the idea of private ownership private property as opposed to personal property is actively harming others but I don't put a line in the sand and say no I will not talk to you because you are a capitalist bad man no because that doesn't make sense to me has Jesus a respond yes Jesus has a respond older and strangely white who were the funk have you visited Gauls gallery I have a lot of art in Gauls gallery Galilee Fjallad in Bergen Gauls has basically a ton of my work permanently in his gallery so I'll visit them I visit him all the time that's the first time I've heard the difference between private and personal property yeah so private and personal property are like this the personal property is I own this thing and I own this thing and and I uh let me see if I find I should find something I've drawn oh yeah yeah I made this thing so I own it I own you know the personal things I own okay so those are mine and they can have become mine through various means and that is personal property private property is specifically the right to own land that other people farm the right to own factories that other people work in and the right to own homes houses that other people live in that is private property the private property rights of capitalism is the right to own and own the things that others use and through that ownership dominate them it is the right to be a lord in a sense and that makes sense because the private property of capitalism is a direct descendant of the divine rights of kings that were just distributed to the property owning class so that we got a lot of first and lot of small kings and then now we get great emperors like elan musk and all of them I remember none of their names now cheers from libanon seven people I I didn't understand that who's the craziest metal band you've seen crazy in terms of live performance um yeah that's a good one uh I mean bands like uh watane are intense on stage shining sweden are intense on stage uncomfortable um in a great way um I need to think about that a little bit you're the dragon dude how tall are you 187 after that do you understand anything about anarcho-syndicalism I'm not huge on anarchist theory I I've read very little political theory at all I just skimmed a bit here and there and read some back in the day I don't really um I call myself anarchist and socialist um I don't really like to specify much more than that because I don't have any firm grasp of why anarcho-syndicalism should work better than anarcho-commonism or anarcho-privatism or anarcho-individualism or any of those I I think that we also get really surprised to see what works I mean what uh has been done for instance in Rojava over the last decade is amazing and it doesn't specifically look like any of the anarchist theories so do you think anarchy is unique than socialism I think uh anarchism is a a form of socialism but I I'm not really there's a lot of when I talk about politics in my videos there's a lot of screaming matches like you know no socialism is this and communism is that and this is that and this is this and I think these are these categories are useful when they're broad and vague now I don't I don't really care how you define for instance capitalism um because I'm against the current system we're living under and whether you call it capitalism or or something else doesn't matter to me and if it was if I was living under uh Soviet uh under the Soviet state I would be against that uh that doesn't mean I'm against everyone who calls themselves communists but uh but um you know I I'm not that huge on categorizing or locking in the categories do you ever uh go to meetups possibly at Karl's gallery I haven't done a meetup yet but I'm planning on doing something there soon favorite vocalist in metal Rob Halford without a doubt uh Rob Halford uh Peter Steele was great a fantastic voice um um uh I like so many more LG from entombed was fantastic blah my mind is I'm tired yeah did you want to talk about politics today or is it just been catching your eye in the chat just catching my eye in the chat I'm going to name random artists that you've probably never heard of Lemmon Demon Tally Hall Jack Stober Rare Americans the Living Tombstone Necrotoky and Mother Mother never heard of any of them would you agree that political parties are the bane of democracy I don't know what that means good day love your content do you have a favorite snack uh I I love these days I I love snack but but these days I love uh bear bell protein bars are you religious yes no no yes no not agnostic I'm atheistic and somewhat religious what made you begin to do art in general I think you should uh go to the dark art podcast the dark art society podcast on youtube dark art society podcast and I'm the guest last week and we talk a little bit about that do you believe in god now I'm going to go all Jordan Peters on on you and say that depends on what you mean by god and believe and in and you and do do I believe in the god of the bible absolutely not I I mean you can clearly see by reading the bible by reading archaeology you can see how that was invented it's a human invented thing it is it is a story and do I believe the stories have power yes I absolutely do do I believe that we live in a fully matric materialistic universe uh yes absolutely do I believe that in spite of this we live in uh in a universe that we uh that we interpret as same sentient yes I do and I don't think we can do anything but interpret the universe as sentient and act is as if the universe is sentient and if that's what you mean by god then sure god satan whatever how do I differentiate myself as an artist you do what you think is fun what you think is interesting and when you get better at and better at doing what you think is interesting you will also get better at accepting your flaws and that combination of your interests and your flaws is what people call your uniqueness are you a classical hero blah blah blah that guy has intentionally misinterpreted some of the just to be chill there it is I think I know who you're talking about have you played any of the celda games I've played most of them I absolutely love celda thoughts on Anton Levé don't like him uh the the satanic bible is a fun book but it's not interesting ever read Kurt Vonnegut uh yeah I read slaughter high os five and I loved it ever tried sculpting a little bit Jordan Peterson warps to hero myths yes absolutely but but I mean uh credit where credit is uh do one of the things uh I I think uh Peterson is intellectually dishonest he is politically toxic and even dangerous uh but I also think that he has a great mind for interpreting stories um it goes a little bit askew when he starts trying to claim that that that there's some factual um factual underpinning to how he interprets the stories then it goes astray but that is the same as with Jung and as with Joseph Campbell um and I mean there is a good reason why Joseph Campbell is so incredibly influential in Hollywood and in storytelling and that is because he interpreted stories in a really good way the mistake he did was saying that this was somehow proof that all of these were a monomyth that he had figured out that it basically justified why white men wrote all the good literature and Jews were bad and that that's base and women were bad and when you go take these stories and say oh I can interpret them well very well and it is true I base myself on pact and it says that women and Jews are bad that that doesn't make sense could you defeat two monkeys in hand to hand combat uh monkeys uh I could defeat two monkeys eight no no no monkeys yes is it frankenstein or frankenstein's monster I uh colloquially will call it frankenstein even though i'm talking about frankenstein's monster how would you say aspects of your life experiences has shaped your art um and you as an artist I mean let's take that question another way art is communication that's basically all it is it is trying to communicate things in a way that mere words alone can't do even if you're using just words for your art if you're a poet or a writer the art part is how to use them to communicate something more than just the words so what you're asking is how has your life experiences influenced the words coming out of your mouth I mean in every way that's the simple answer in any way nice nails also what is satanism um I have my own ideas of satanism and why I choose to call myself satanist uh one of the reasons is that I have been called satanist for expressing my views uh so I like to just take that and use it another is that that I think that what religion tends to do is to say that this is how the world is don't think too much about it this is how the hierarchy is don't question it um and the argument for religion is that if you don't have religion then you will slide into nihilism and by nihilism they mean that if you don't have religion then you will realize that life is meaningless and pointless and that there is no objective reason why you shouldn't kill or should kill or there's no objective reason of any of that for me satanism is in a sense accepting that yeah in some sort of fundamental sense there is no reason there is no meaning at least not universal or at least not comprehensible and then starting to build meaning on top of that so it is for me it is accepting the fundamental atheism the fundamental nihilism of the world and trying to conscientiously build meaning uh even build religion but I don't like the idea of a religion because I don't think these meanings should be enforced onto others but yeah that's basically what I mean by satanism and it has a lot of other aspects it has the aspects of satan as a rebellious mythological figure it has the aspect of satan as creating in defiance it is in some sense it is like the mythological satan figure it is saying that this world god created is a bit fucked and defiantly trying to unfuck it so satanism is creating your own meaning out of the meaningless of it all got it I mean for me I can't speak for anyone else when I was agnostic at one time I wanted to believe but when we look at the context of religion and history really warped my sense of the word you seem really tired man I am really tired can you tell us about the transition from copying other artist's work to making original art that you enjoy I mean then if you aren't able to create something meaningful maybe what you need isn't to practice your art skills but actually to live life are you interested in vexillology the study of flags never heard of it I never interested in flags but it's fascinating if someone could teach me about vexillology what is your favorite fruit to have this pear that I have in my hand right now it's refreshing to see you actually put a lot of thought into your response instead of just saying things like in your shorts it humanizes you quite a bit yeah the shorts are carefully written and read I read the text to the shorts so that's not how I talk or how I think even but I'm trying to reflect how I talk and how I think in them and I'm trying to write them truthfully but but you know I think I think one of the interesting things about having this internet fame is that I get introduced by you guys to a lot of thoughts and ideas that I wouldn't have otherwise so so you guys challenge my views sometimes by disagreeing with me sometimes by agreeing in ways I don't like and when I do a live like this I it is much more about it's more about actually trying to engage instead of just and trying to learn I mean so I'm trying to make my answers better and more truthful every time I think and I yeah I think I might have seen you jogging in Sun Weekend a while back yeah I usually jog in Osana around Salus but I have jogged through Sun Weekend a couple of times yes so you might have seen me and you can stop me even if I'm jogging you can stop me and say hi that I haven't yet had any unpleasant interactions with with people who know me from online so it's all wonderful I'm not the biggest fan of discussions about religion or politics because of some past experiences but you make it logical and thought provoking so I thank you thank you okay so Vexilology is pretty much the study of flags like knowing symbolism colors and history on reddit there is a subreddit under the same name and it has a community of people but finding flags and I would absolutely love to sit down with someone who is passionate about flags and to try to understand and to feed of their passion because it is nothing is greater than than listening to geeks geek out over the things they geek out about okay there was you my friend are not an aestheticist but an artist for sure but Crispin Glover's work is disturbing in the most provocative way uh Crispin Glover the actor i um Crispin Glover did a great role in in Deadman small role but great one of my favorite movies why free art why do it I did that with mine but the catch is none want my art if it even if it's free yeah so uh free art isn't about getting paid or not I get paid for my art I I like to get paid I like having money it's better than not having money I wish I would have more money you can send super chat um and that would be appreciated members would be appreciated but the point is free art isn't about that free art is about what art is and as we already discussed here for me art is communication art is speech so when I say free art I mean it in the same way as free speech and if you have said something you don't have the legal right to stop others from saying the same thing because that's weird and copyright is really weird and it does kind of do some awful things with how we think about art with how we think about communication with the work conditions artists work on her and you know how do you transform something inspiring into art I don't know I mean if I see something inspiring then the question for me is how do I not transform it into art because or how do I find the time to transform it into art my my instinct is always how can I make this into art I want to create a comic and I need an artist that be willing to communicate and create a story together any advice my advice to people who want to write a comic with an artist is number one learn to draw you don't necessarily have to become good enough to be the artist but you need to learn to draw I think comic book artist who or comic book writers who can draw are generally better the second if you are serious about getting artists to draw your stories then pay them for it the artist will be doing perhaps 10 times as much work as you on your ideas you need to pay pay them for that my friend Tudon Dunbeck who works for Marvel and has you know all of that it has worked for all the big ones and does great writing she her she broke into comics by saving up money and paying artists to to do her self-published comic even though she is a good artist in her own right she knew that she couldn't write or draw in that temple that she needed for the comics so she paid and that's what you don't ask artists to draw to draw your story because they will use 10 times as much time as you used to write it okay I can paint better than you and sculpt cool excellent um good luck with your painting and sculpting and hope you get great success if it's free speech work copyright it ain't all bad think about it with all its vices copyright does some good for people like what I've tried to draw and now I stopped because I want to rock on electric guitar excellent okay I think it's time to um it's time to end this I'm looking for any final follow-ups to some of the things I said say I'm a poor artist and some million dollar company steals my art in a world without copyright say you are a poor artist and some million dollar company steals your art in a world with copyright how do you fight them how many successful cases have there been of a small artist suing a giant corporation for copyright it's my only chance to survive so actually most artists don't rely all that much on copyright so if you're an independent artist you rely on commissions creating original works uh selling original works um doing custom works uh doing classes courses uh and all all manners of things that that none of them have anything to do with copyright a few manage to to to create a property that will sustain them like like Bill Waterson is the perfect example of someone who built his own copyright property and managed it very well and also used his copyright to protect Calvin and Hobbes from being over commercialized which is one of the reasons why Calvin and Hobbes is it it's still respected but it sort of is fading away because he didn't allow corporations to exploit it the main reason why we have a copyright or why how it functions in society today is that it allows companies to own a copyright and hire artists to infuse their creativity into the property so the property becomes worth more and the artists don't necessarily become worth more i'm new to artists career thank you i still don't agree with all but uh still try you do make compelling argument yeah i want to say something very important if you are an artist and you have the choice to keep your own copyrights then that is always better than to sell your copyrights to a corporation but for instance uh like with bill waterson who probably earned a fortune he could probably have earned an even bigger fortune by selling his copyrights at the right time but he did the right thing and kept Calvin and Hobbes his and also kept it from being over exploited but yeah if you are unsure if you uh yeah uh if you are unsure of what to do with your art always keep your copyrights if you can okay i think that uh was uh the last word for today if you like my art and you have the opportunity to support i release all my art for free use so you can copy it you can download it you can print it you can even sell it there are some good questions here but i don't have more energies um energies so yeah you can support me by spreading my art if you have the money you can also support me by becoming a youtube member by buying originals on den ungeherholm.com or by um super chats and uh by um patreon and by buying prints and all of that stuff thank you so much it was really fun to talk with you i'll talk with you all again after Easter and after the inferno festival and hopefully i'll see some of you at the inferno festival where i'll be doing way too much every day so i'll be even more excited uh exhausted than now bye