 And like it is that chain of trust. I think that we've all had in you trusting you and experiencing that trust and Yeah, and then it's like extending and then the trust extending And so it's like this chain of trust that we're all just trusting and then when we're not trusting It's just the egoic patterns of fear and doubt and always coming back to that. Okay, remember I'm gonna trust So we're trusting the Holy Spirit and then eventually what I'm Experiencing is that we all hear the exact same voice in the end. It's like that washing away. It's like hi I'm hearing that, you know through the trust Yeah, in the end it's Yeah, you know in the world there's a model called consensus where you you know, it's not very often used because there's such a People have great difficulty reaching consensus Even husbands and wives and boyfriends and girlfriends You know if you had to operate on a consensus model where you they were both in total agreement on everything before a yes Would go through Not much, but you know Hey Merle, shall we go out to the restaurant tonight? No, Fred. We were out there last night. It's my turn You know, you can see whether even in the world where he's trading off you your way this night My way that way is still a compromise of back and forth. It's not hearing one voice Where Merle and Fred go you hear what I'm hearing Merle. I am Fred. Don't even have to speak it Let's get in the truck and go to Mickey D's You know, it's it's gotta come down to a shared purpose where you're all hearing the same voice Not trading off and compromising. We'll do it your way. We'll do it our way I mean, some of you know that I some of the people I have so grateful for the witnesses like the Luckets and Sarah helped me get in touch with the Luckets maybe a year or two ago when I was going through Hawaii But we were having this glorious dinner. She came all dressed in her purple and Jack was there and it was so great. They're probably both like in their 80s and And he said Chase is like, how do you practice the course nowadays in a practical way? They've been known to do all kinds of things in course meetings Lalia took off her top one time and Bared her breasts while she was facilitating a course meeting and this is like we know Those are the good old days. We don't have anything. There's nothing like that going on in the planet now There's no nobody that's that bold. Okay, nothing. I see me. They're here. Let's go And I had a priest friend and Cincinnati who was there at that meeting and they knew him They still remember his name. I was back at my course meeting and he's going damn the thing I saw my eyes were the biggest saucers of priests John Seiler going out there and seeing you like so anyway We we just flow along with things but the but the point of it is is like you really have to be willing to just really trust and Let go and the Luckets were great examples because they were very joyful and They were reminders to us that that you just have to take it all the way and when Jason said what are you doing nowadays? They trade off. They still trade off and sleep on different sides of the bed every night in their 80s Because they don't want to get too familiar With one side of the bed That's practically that's just a practice But again, it's not meant to advocate a ritual, but it's just the presence that was under that was the purpose was We don't want to get too familiar With one side of the bed over the other and this this group This is a couple that's been practicing the course for decades. I mean they were the pioneers. These were Bill Thedford's teachers and So they've been at it a long time and I just have a reverence and a devotion for Willingness to practice that much and that deeply to not try to have the I know mind about You know, hey Jack, you're on my side of the bed. Well, you lately and you know, keep your elbow over there and they're not into that They're into being present and that's that's really beautiful. So Yeah, and I just want to say to yeah, it's not like You have it's like we're washing away like again trusting each other It's like we're learning to trust one another and I feel like for me why I came here is because I really trusted the Holy Spirit You know, like I'm trusting the Holy Spirit first And then I'm coming here and I'm trusting my brother and trusting you and you know, it's like trust Okay, I prayed and I can't decide what the answer is, you know, trusting each other It's like okay trusting, you know, I'm a trust Holy Spirit and I don't know what that means in mate You know, you know, I just I just have just full appreciation just for that You know washing away. Well, it isn't the trust because I know me and you Ben Many times we've had where, you know, we were working together and you came in and I was looking at the next line Thank you for your presence and devotion and for your willingness to expose all Because it's like like as we're trusting. It's like what isn't that? It's like, no, I'm scared or I'm fearful and I'm willing I'm willing to trust you, but that's like kind of the washing away and like trusting Trusting again. Okay. I'm gonna trust you again It's this deepening and deepening and really just the experience of trusting the Holy Spirit is really what it is Yeah, I mean I have such gratitude for you Ben because I wasn't even here at that one time But we've had many encounters, but Lisa said something like one day you came in and she said something I'm hearing that you're to get your haircut and you better be in a you know trusting community You walk in it's like What? You know, I mean that's that takes trust it takes trust And we're not talking about crazy wisdom schools where you know get up on the Table and dance naked and all these crazy things that that devotees have been put through for four decades To please the guru or the guru is just playing with you. Would Jesus really do such a thing? Would Jesus, you know You know do that in the name of exposing, you know It's like it's it's it's difficult enough to expose the unconscious mind Without being put through a bunch of ego tricks on top of it and feeling mistrust So this is a very very devotional path Where you know when people look at me about that like really or something I always say I really wouldn't ask anyone to do something that I haven't done and usually it's I wouldn't ask anybody to Do something that I haven't done a lot Probably hundreds of time over and also without an invitation like you know, if everyone comes here is coming based on Voluntary nature, they're they're volunteering to be here and they know that they can volunteer not to be here You know and this kind of that's my part is you're welcome to join me and you're welcome not to join me I will love you no matter what happens. It doesn't matter about the form No one is cast away. No one is unwelcome. You know for some they've had to watch that over the years Where where they've gone off and you know, sometimes I've been driving along and Lisa would call up on the cell phone David Yeah Hi, or I call her hey Lisa. How you doing that? She's been in the darkness and hiding or whatever for months We're having a gathering down in Tennessee. You're welcome to come. I am Very bolded Oh What are you doing you have any plans Not really get on in your car and come on down You know, it's like and and that the welcome never ends Some of you may have heard that song or Christian song And a friend's a friend forever the Lord's the Lord of them and a friend will not say never For the welcome will not end No, and then a lifetimes not too long to live as friends It's a beautiful song. It's this song of you can't mess it up. You can't go wrong You're always welcome. You're honored to do whatever you believe you have to do and go wherever you have to go And so forth and actually it's more than not even honored. You're blessed To do what you need to do and with the guidance and with the trust That's what we rely on for peace of mind. You're always welcome into that and you're all the welcome never ends, you know You can always come Sometimes people aren't really ready for certain steps But the readiness will come in the Lord's time and then they'll be ready to To answer the call Jesus had many people around him back 2,000 years ago that it seemed to reject him and Go off and it even talks about that in your ancient book, but then sometimes years later They'd show up. I'm here. I'm ready. I'm in the ministry. I'm there even though Jesus was long gone That was fine. It was perfect. It was all in the script. It was all just in the perfect timing And there really in that sense wasn't a real delay You know delay is unknown in eternity and it seems tragic in time Just because this need not be we really don't need to delay anymore We can really dive into this fully without any fear and doubt and the rewards the fruits are spectacular when you do dive in and when you step back for a moment Holy Spirit's not keeping score. Holy Spirit is not a human presence. Oh, come on. How many times have I Told you that come on do it do it just do it, you know the Holy Spirit's not like that The Holy Spirit never commands the Holy Spirit never demands It's all I love This is the good news We can't mess it up