 Hey, that's Veronica and her new job. Look at that. Heaven. It kind of in heaven is your new job at heaven. It's I'm an angel. Are you working? Yeah, no, you got you got some good backlight there, but you look good. Doing God's work, making bots, making the bots, building the bots. All right. Well, we're just going to start early and get this all underway. OK, because Veronica, I've totally identified with you. You're in a room where people can maybe hear you and you don't want to disturb them. And I have done an episode of Tech News today in an airport where I was like, oh, my God, I'm bothering all of these people. And we're so nice. It's really hard on being this. I know. Yeah, it's it's bad. And I have a super hard out at two thirty because there's a meeting in here after me. We will definitely get you out of there. So all right, here we go. Let me find my doc. All right. And don't feel like you have to whisper because I am. I need to change this so I can see it. OK, here we go. Where do I press record there? Audio hijack must quit to Tom just disappear. I can't hear you. I guess now I'm hosting Daily Tech News show. Is what is happening? I still can't hear you, Raj. Because now everybody is gone. Oh, my God. Now, I'm alone in here. Roger, can you hear me now? Yes. All right. Sorry. When I anytime I do the screen share for some reason, automatically kills my mic so I can't come back or something. Oh, no. I think Tom had might have had to reboot. Yeah, I think he's coming back. But what happened? Oh, that was funny. That was so funny. OK. Audio hijack just decided to change how it worked. Oh, good. Timely. Yeah, that was a good time. It's a good time for everything. Can you hear me? Yes. Yeah. Can you share with me again? Because I had to restart because I couldn't talk to Veronica. Veronica, you're the only one that's working. And it's ironic enough over over your wife. Weirdly ironic. Yeah, listeners will not know that I already had to switch rooms, switch conference rooms because of the Wi-Fi. That was fun. It's a good time. All right, I'm getting to you, Roger. Here we go. OK, back on the attack. Here we go. Get it again. Three, two, one. Daily Tech News Show is powered by its audience, not outside organizations. To find out more, head to DailyTechNewsShow.com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, August 8, 2016. I'm Tom Merritt, joining me today from the location of her new job as product manager at GroBot and co-host of Sword Laser. Ms. Veronica Belmont. Hello, how are you? I am doing fantastic. How are you? I am great. Did you have a nice week off without me? We missed you. We did. But we knew you were getting settled in, and we're glad to have you back and talking bots and other things with us once again. Did you have a nice first week? I did. There's so much to learn. I got a lot to catch up on, and I apologize. The Wi-Fi in here is not great. There's a lot of office noise going on, so it's not my typical podcasting studio. But hopefully we can make it work. Yeah, we will absolutely make it work. It's going to be wonderful. Just imagine we have someone on location inside the belly of a beast. I don't know what beast that is. ViceGaming says the new 4K version of the PS4 is going to be announced on September 7th. That's what their sources say. And Strengths in our chat room wanted us to remind Australians to fill out their five-yearly census forms today. But remember, only put Jedi if you're really a Jedi. Now for some more talk. Yeah, you don't want to mess around. Veronica, I've prepared Apple Rumors three ways for you today. Would you like to introduce them to you? Please. Describe the servings. So from Chef Mark Gurman at Bloomberg, we have sources saying the next iPhone will feature a pressure-sensitive home button instead of a physical button with haptic feedback. It will also, Gurman says, lack the headphone jack. They're going lightning-olding only. The larger iPhone will come with a dual-camera system. Chef Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI says that Apple will release two new versions of the Apple Watch by the end of the year. Now, one of these is just a minor update to the internals, improved processor, better waterproofing. But the Apple Watch 2 would feature GPS, a barometer, and a higher-capacity battery. And the chefs at 9 to 5 Mac have sources that say new MacBook Pro models will finally come in Q4. Have a USB-C connection? Actually, they say four USB-C ports. Strip of OLED touch-sensitive function keys and a Touch ID power button. They'll also be a new 13-inch MacBook. Stories out today pointing out that Apple hasn't updated their laptops in forever. Like, they're basically out of date. Yeah, we actually, when I got this job, they were like, do you need a new laptop? And I was like, I'm going to wait. Thanks. We're going to wait on that one. That's good advice for everyone who wants an Apple product right now. Like, we've got new iPhones, possibly a new Watch, possibly new laptops. It's been a while, like that rumor seems true. And German and Ming-Chi Kuo, German especially, are pretty good track records. So I believe most of this. Yeah, I'm very ready for a new phone. I'm definitely going to be sizing down back to the old form factor, but I am excited. I'm looking forward to it. Well, what's Hulu up to? Hulu said it will phase out the free version of its service over the next few weeks. At the same time, it has launched a partnership with Yahoo View, a new service from Yahoo that will stream free TV episodes of shows provided by Hulu. Yahoo View will get the five most recent episodes from ABC, NBC, and Fox shows eight days after they air. Yahoo also get some other network shows, full seasons of anime, and some Korean dramas. So essentially, if I'm getting this right, they are going to put the free Hulu out on Yahoo. Yeah. Okay. That will be the new Yahoo thing. Does this mean I have to download a new Yahoo View app for my Tivo, or my Xbox, or all the other places I used to watch Hulu on? You know, that's a really good question. No, you're not going to- Is it web only? If you pay for Hulu, which is really the only way to get most of the stuff that's on those apps, then no, you're fine. That's true, and I do. I do pay. I don't know why, but I do. Yeah, so, well, you're paying because that's the only way to get most of the apps. And now Hulu's like, pretty much you're only going to be paying. We've gotten rid of the thing that I used to do, where I'm like, well, I'll just play the free stuff on the browser, and there were some free things that would play in the browser that wouldn't play in the pay apps for a long time. But I've gotten over that, and I've found reasons to pay for Hulu that makes sense, content that I want to get that would make sense. So it is an interesting move for them to say, okay, what we're going to do is actually send our, you know, actually send our content to Yahoo, because they'll pay us, apparently. That's so weird. And then we don't have to do the, we don't have to do the free dance anymore. And, and, and. Because Netflix Amazon Prime, they don't have free versions. And it's like, I'll have free views, or free samples sometimes, at least Amazon does, but not like Hulu, where it's like, there's just an ad supported. Yeah, and I hate this method of, you get the five most recent episodes, but eight days after they air, and you never really know if it's going to be available or not, those kind of things drive me baddie. And it's not very good for binge watching either. No, it's not. So my trouble, if I were to say I had a trouble, is that we still don't know what this Yahoo view thing is, or exactly where we're going to find it. It's at view.yahu.com on the web, but are they going to have a bunch of apps? Are they going to have, you know, Apple TV placement, Roku placement? That was the problem with the previous Yahoo video app. I think it was the one where you could watch community is nobody really knew where to find it. And so, even though they had community, nobody bothered to watch it. Right, disappointing. Yeah. Well, at DEF CON, security firm checkpoint, presented four major security flaws in Qualcomm chip drivers, affecting a wide variety of Android phones, most of the Android phones out there, to be honest. Vulnerabilities would allow privilege escalation, and therefore get the attacker root access to your phone. Now, the attacker would need to trick you into installing a malicious app to take advantage of the flaws. So first of all, make sure you're only downloading apps you trust from trustworthy sources. It's not that they couldn't get a malicious app into the Google Play Store, but it's much less possible. If you're not downloading a whole lot of weird apps, then you're less likely to get this. Three of the four flaws have been patched. The fourth fix is in the patch that comes from Google in September. And Nexus users have received those three existing patches, and obviously we'll get the next one with the September suite of patches. But if you're not on a Nexus device, you should check with your carrier or manufacturer. And this definitely points out the problem, you know, I'm not gonna bring up the fragmentation word, because that's not the issue. The issue is carriers. When the carriers inserted themselves into the process and said, we'll issue the patches, it slows things down. And granted, I don't think any of these are in the wild yet, but the researchers are saying it's only a matter of time. Yes, that is definitely a huge problem. But what I love about Def Con is everyone finding these flaws and then getting them fixed so quickly. That's definitely one of the benefits of whitehaving. We have more streaming news, more video streaming news. Keep an eye on video streaming app Bingo, Bingo, Bingo, sorry, Bingo, live broadcasting, which was number one in Singapore until Pokemon Go hit the scene. Also huge in Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, and Laos, partnered with Chinese powerhouse social network YY, another one to note. Bingo gamifies streaming with XP awarded for participation, including the purchasing of virtual gifts within app currency diamonds. Gifts can then be converted to beans, which can then be cashed out for real money at 6700 beans minimum, which rounds out to about $32. Yeah, so I thought we'd wanna talk about this because when line came around, a lot of people did not understand what it was, what it was doing, and it sort of revolutionized things. Granted, line never took over the United States, but that idea of in-app purchases for messaging, selling stickers, and building a platform for gaming in a messaging app is something people have definitely paid attention to, and we chat, paid attention to that, and became huge in China. So I'm looking at this and saying, okay, this gamification of live broadcasting is catching on in a big chunk of Southeast Asia, could catch on in China because of its connection with YY, and that could be the next thing that we start to see live streaming apps like Periscope or Facebook Live, start to look at and go, hey, wait a minute, maybe we need to get in on that. So what do you think of that gamification and that weird diamonds to beans currency thing? I don't really understand the idea of diamonds to beans, but also I'm not a young person in Singapore, so maybe that's more of the target audience right now, but it is, you know, gamifying things definitely brings people in very quickly. It just is always a matter of do they stick around? Is there enough value there to keep them returning to the app time and time again? And that's, you know, the biggest problem pretty much everyone has with apps of these kinds is stickiness. But yeah, if they can get people to buy things for beans, then sure. Yeah, she says confused about beans. Well, okay, I think, granted, I am a 46-year-old man in the United States of America, but I think I understand how it works, which is the diamonds thing is just your general in-app purchase, right? If you've ever played any game where it's like, oh, I have to buy the gold, so then I can spend it in the store to get the lures or the things, that's what that is. And then what you buy with the in-game currency are perks that you send to the creators. Like, oh, I'm gonna send you a little teddy bear sticker, right? It's really not that far from stickers. The weird part is when I, as a creator, then receive these gifts from people. It's not that different from the emojis in Twitch, I guess. I can then convert those to beans. So I guess I shred the gift and turn it into beans and then turn the beans into cash, but the beans are also listed publicly so people know how many beans I have and that's a status symbol, so you don't really wanna cash them out because then your number goes down. They were talking in this Tech in Asia article about it. Somebody who has like 800,000 beans. Very heavily weighted. Yeah. This is like, this reminds me of a comp, like, so if you take your Snapchat score and if you could somehow take those points and convert them into a currency and then use that to buy filters or something like that, the number was also a sign of your prestige in Snapchat. Right. You didn't really wanna spend them more than you had to just when you really wanted to. So it gives them weight. It gives them some amount of meaning. They're not meaningless. They have both prestige and value in a store. And it's easy for Bigo to monetize that because the amount of diamonds you have to buy to get a gift will always be less than the amount of beans that'll be cashed out for, right? So there's a profit level there. I guess it would also, now that you were putting it that way in Snapchat terms, I get it, Facebook could do it where, all the reactions I get, whether it's likes or smileys or whatever, could turn into a point count that I could cash out. It'd be a similar. Well, the swarm, the swarm you do that, I mean, you get points by checking in places and by using your multipliers and then you have your coin purse and then you use those coins to spend on sticker upgrades. So essentially your sticker upgrades give you more coins which then give you higher sticker upgrades which encourage you to check in more. So it's kind of, but then what happens when you run out of stickers? So you can't cash out your stickers, yeah. No, there's nothing to cash them out for other than, there's nothing to cash out your coins for other than stickers. That's the thing that Bigo has going on is the ability to cash out. By the way, thank you for informing my wife that she didn't lose swarm points by checking me in or having me check her in. No, no, no. She would never check me in before now she checks me in all the time because she found out she gets bonus points. But if she's using multipliers and you're not, then she could miss out on those multiplier bonuses by letting you check her in as opposed to her checking you in. Don't tell her that. Okay. Softpedia recounts how French security researcher Ivan Kwiatkowski was helping his parents avoid some ransom where they'd gone to a website and were getting these weird messages and he's like, just don't ignore the messages. You don't want to get ransomware. And as he was headed home, I'm going to editorialize. I don't know if he's thinking about this. I like that he's walking through the streets of France thinking, hmm, so he got home and he used a VM to access that same website that had tried to affect his parents and called the phone number it gave. Although in the screenshot, it shows a chat. So I don't know if he's called and then started a chat or what, but he got in touch with the people from the ransomware that were trying to get his parents gave them what's called a test credit card number. So the test credit card number will validate. It's a way to test e-commerce sites, but you can't charge anything to it. So of course that was driving them crazy because they were able to validate his credit card but they couldn't put through any charges on it. And then he had another idea as they were struggling with the credit card number, he said, you know, I've got bad eyesight. Can I send you a photo of the credit card? And they, of course, the ransomware people were like, yes, please send us the photo of the credit card. So he just went through his spam folder, found a zip file of the Locky ransomware, renamed it photo823.png.zip, and then sent it through the chat and said, here, here's the photo. And then the researcher or then the other person on the other end wrote back, I tried opening your photo, nothing happened to which, Eva Ivan Klikowski said, something's happening. He didn't say it out loud. Don't worry, something's happening. But as that nothing was happening, that entire person's computer was getting encrypted by ransomware. So Ivan says, we have a moral obligation to waste these people's time. And I can't say I don't admire the turnabout, the turning of the tables. Is that okay to do? No? I think it's okay to do. I think it's a little dangerous because then you're potentially pissing off the people who have the encryption key to your ransom drive. But at the same time, it's kind of funny. Yeah, no, that's a fair point. Nobody's drive had been encrypted at this point. He had stopped it from attacking his parents. And of course, he didn't let it encrypt. He was using a virtual machine anyway, so. Turnabout is fair play. Yeah, pretty ingenious. Thanks for the folks on the subreddit for calling our attention to that. That's amazing. Motherboard notes that the new Xbox One S has a sticker on its case, warning the owner that the warranty will be voided if the sticker is removed. Motherboard's Jason Kebler notes that this is probably against the law. The Magnuson Moss Warranty Act of 1975 prohibits manufacturers from forcing consumers to use certain parts or repair professionals in order to maintain a warranty. Frank Dorman, a spokesperson for the Federal Trade Commission, told Motherboard the stickers imply that quote, consumers can't use parts the warrantor doesn't pre-approve, which violates the anti-trying, tying, tying, anti-tying. You can't tie repair to your product, I guess. The anti-tying provisions of MMWA. The Magnuson Moss Warranty Act is your friend, folks. In fact, Motherboard points out that the Xbox One S terms of service prohibit you from repairing your own machine, which, of course, Frank Dorman says is a direct violation of the MMWA. So this is from the mouths of the FTC, saying, hey, that's not really along with the law. Now the reason companies, and it's not just Microsoft, do this is because they can get away with it. They know nobody's going to sue them and they want to dissuade people from messing around and messing up their Xboxes, but Motherboard gave a great example. If you had a hard drive go bad or maybe you just wanted to increase the storage space in your Xbox and you put in a new hard drive and the HDMI port goes bad, there's no relation to that. The burden of proof is on Microsoft to prove that you putting in that hard drive somehow messed up the HDMI port. And granted, we can all think of scenarios where maybe that could happen, but it's very unlikely. So if all you did was put in a working hard drive and it worked, Microsoft is saying that violates your warranty and we won't replace the broken HDMI port according to our terms of service and what the FTC is saying is, no, you can't do that. It's against the law, you have to go ahead and fix it. You can't have someone violate their warranty by not messing up their own machine. You have the right to repair your own machine. Right, but yeah, these stickers still show up everywhere. Yeah, take them off, I actually don't. Because I mean, the problem is, do you have the money to fight them in court? There would have to be some kind of class action or something for this to end up being. Yeah, probably not. Yeah. All right, well, thanks to all those who participate in our subreddit at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. As we said, we got some great stuff in there as we do every day. Big thanks to Goobert, who put in the Hulu story, Steve Io, put some stuff in there. Benjy Tech, Inga Ning is in there again. Good to see you back, Flying Spatula, Motang, and more Strike It Rich One. Get in there and help them out, dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and that is a look at the top stories. All right, speaking of the Federal Trade Commission, I would never promote a show as being FTC heavy, but we do have two stories about them today. Michael Ostheimer is a deputy in the Federal Trade Commission's ad practices division and said the agency is going to start cracking down on undisclosed sponsored content that is broadcast on social media, particularly. Now they do include YouTube videos and stuff in here, but mostly they're talking about Twitter and Facebook. The responsibility and liability for disclosure is on the advertisers, not the content creators. For video ads, the FTC says that sponsored content must be disclosed audibly as well as on screen. They said, hashtags may or may not be sufficient. A hashtag AD for ad could meet the criteria if it's at the beginning of the post, but just putting SP at the end, they're like, people don't know necessarily what that means, that that means sponsored. If it's at the end among seven other hashtags, it gets lost, that's not enough. Sarah Fryer and Matthew Townsend at the Bloomberg found, or at Bloomberg, not at all. Not at all at Bloomberg though, let's be honest. Matthew Townsend and Sarah Fryer at Bloomberg found that the ad agency Captivate reported upwards of $225 million spent on Instagram sponsored content per month with hashtag ad usage up 250% for the month of July, year over year. And of course the FTC really caught people's attention when they settled a case with Warner Brothers Home Entertainment over payments to PewDiePie who was promoting Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor, but in the FTC's opinion had not disclosed properly that he was being paid by Warner Brothers. Yeah, this is something that's been going on for years now. In fact, I remember a couple of years ago, people really started being very, very careful about making sure to put in that ad hashtag or that sponsored hashtag and make it very clear when advertisers were being involved with content creation. And I think I really first started seeing it mostly with beauty bloggers primarily. There were a lot of makeup and fashion bloggers who had to basically write a blog post saying, hey, from now on you're gonna see like a big portion of this post basically disclosing that these products are being paid for. I mean, these posts are being paid for and that these products were given to me for free by the brands that were being mentioned here. And I think it's really important because at the end of the day a content creator really can only has the trust of their audience to go on. Like that's their primary currency. And so being clear about what is sponsored and what is not is an important part of maintaining that trust. However, at the same time as being someone who in the past was considered a influencer and attempted to, you know, who was, brands would come to me and say, we want you to promote our product or we want you to promote our event. I was always very, very choosy about the kinds of things I would engage with because you don't wanna break that bond of trust and do something that's not natural for your audience that makes it really weird and kind of bizarre when you do promote things that don't fit in but also being really clear about what was an ad and what wasn't. But it feels uncomfortable. Like when I was hosting something for like, you know, they mentioned Intel in one of these stories with iJustine. I've done work with Intel too and I always had to be very clear like this is a paid gig. But it feels kind of crappy to have to write, you know? Like it feels unnatural. But at the same time, you can't risk setting something off like this, getting the sponsor in trouble, getting yourself in trouble, losing the trust of your audience. It's a very, you know, it's a tightrope that you have to walk. Yeah, one of the ones that they mentioned here in the Bloomberg article is DJ Khaled on Snapchat. Very obviously has a paid promotion for vodka. He's always talking about a particular kind of vodka and it works really well because if you follow DJ Khaled, you know, he's got these little slogans, these little bits that he does that stick in your brain, right? We the best, don't play yourself. And so he's made the vodka part of that stick and it sticks in your brain. So it's incredibly effective. It's pretty obvious to me that it's a paid promotion but he never says it. Never says it. Right? Never. And the question is, does he need to? Like it's one thing, yes, if you're a news reporter, I don't think you should ever do this. If you're someone who does like video game reviews or just like unboxings or like you say beauty blogging. That's the thing. It's a little more of a gray area. That's where the trust comes in now. That's where the disclosure needs to happen, for sure. If you're just an entertainer and on Snapchat there's not an easy way to do it, does it matter to you that it's not clearly a promoted thing? Because remember, we're talking about endorsements. We're not just talking about sponsorships. It's one thing to have an ad play before your thing or to say like this episode brought to you by X. It's the endorsement that is the issue. And in fact, the FTC's Michael Ostheimer says in this Bloomberg article, we don't crack down on product placement because those are fictional characters in most cases in sitcoms and movies. They're not making an endorsement and they're not a real person making an endorsement. When you're a real person on Twitter who normally says I like this, I like that, when you're being paid to say I like this, customers need to know that. I agree, I'm not really sure how DJ Khaled would really be any different from some of those other situations. If he started showing off another brand of alcohol in his Snapchat, I would be like, oh, is this another sponsorship or do you actually like this? I think it just brings into it. I mean, if you really care about this kind of thing, if you really like a personality or someone on Snapchat, it might make you start thinking about what they're really in it for, I guess, or what is really true to them because you tend to like people because you feel like you like something and some aspect of their personality or taste. So if that starts being affected in a very strong way by brands and sponsorships and product placement, then you start to feel like you're getting a less legit version of that person, a less authentic version of that person. Well, and a lot of creators argue that they will only engage with sponsors that provide products that they believe in. That's what I said, yeah, for myself too. Well, yeah, exactly. So then you're still putting more trust in that creator, but I think it's even more important to disclose then because you don't want, it's all about appearances, right? You don't want the appearance when someone finds out, wait a minute. Veronica said that she really loved that vodka and now I find out she got paid for it. Does she really love it? And then you come back and say, no, no, I would have never done the sponsorship with them if I didn't already love the vodka, but then it's too late. So you have to disclose. But you can say that up front, yeah. Totally. Exactly. And I know plenty of people who do YouTube videos and things like that who get paid to do videos and they are very, very clear. Like we want to disclose, we just need to know the rules. What the FTC is saying is this is on the sponsors. This is on the people paying you. They need to be clear with you what they want you to say and they need to meet the guidelines. Because yeah, it's a little uncomfortable if, let's say, RC Cola is paying me to say I love RC Cola, which they're not, by the way. Well, I've been accused many times of being paid and I'm like, I wish I was. But if they're saying, yeah, but just put a hashtag SP at the end, that's fine. And if you're the creator, you're like, well, wait a minute, I don't know if that's okay. And then you get in trouble. You're trying to go along with the client. So the person who has the power in that relationship is the sponsor. The sponsor should be the one saying, no, you gotta put hashtag ad. Or you have to say up front like, hey, this review is brought to you by RC Cola. They're paying me to do this. There has to be a way to do it that doesn't make it like crazy awkward, but also discloses like, this is, we're in a partnership here. And in fact, I think that's what Justine Nazarek says in this article as well as I try to say in partnership with or as a paid promotion whenever possible. Yeah. Well, I'm just going to be clear that I have not been paid by anyone today, except you people who support the show directly. So let me just disclose that I am paid by you or some of you anyway. Get it out there on the table. Same for Veronica here. Shall we get to our pick of the day? Our pick of the day is... Yeah, do you want me to read it? Yeah, you're wearing the, I'm not even wearing socks. So I feel it would be wrong for me to read this. I can't see my socks a lot. Yeah, you can't see it on the audio version, but Veronica has Argyle, multicolor Argyle socks. Slack socks. I was going to say those are the slack colors, aren't they? Yeah. That's amazing. Okay. So, Soren writes, I have been thinking of a pick of the week, socks. Okay, not the general concept of socks, which is of course quite brilliant by itself. And it's something we all need and use daily for the most part. But my pick is more specifically the Swedish sock brand Happy Socks. They're socks and they're happy, two great things. Also, they're Scandinavian, which I, being Danish, of course, appreciate too. I like wearing colorful socks and I find Happy Socks to be of a very nice quality and they have some awesome designs. In addition, they have awesome customer service. I once received a faulty pair of socks. One had a tiny hole in it and they promptly set me a new pair free of charge. No need to return the faulty pair. And luckily the hole wasn't so big that it made the original pair unusable, so I effectively got a free pair. Anyways, in my experience, they are a very nice company. They can be found at happysocks.com and they have quite a few worldwide sites. So I think most of your listeners will be able to use them. Regards and love the show. Now, I picked this, I put this in the lineup before we had picked our topic for the day. And it strikes me that this comes across very much as the kind of sponsor that would sponsor a show. Totally not sponsored. That's what our pick of the day is about, is exposing you to the types of things that maybe you would find from a sponsor, but it doesn't cost anybody anything. So this is just Soren sending to Happy Socks. We don't know if they're that happy. We don't even know if they're socks, but Soren recommends them. So there you go. I'm very familiar with the brand Happy Socks and I'm a fan as well, though I don't own any. No, I owned them. They did a partnership with Jay Crew and I owned a pair of Happy Socks. You don't anymore? No, I still have them. Did they get depressed? Did they become depressed? But they're about to fall apart. I need to buy some more. Okay, send your picks to us, folks. Feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com. You can find more picks at DailyTechNewsShow.com slash picks. Real quickly, Nate Langston and I are partnering up, totally unpaid. I tell folks on his podcast, Text Message, what's been happening on DTNS. And here is Nate to tell you what's been happening on Text Message. Hey, thanks, Tom. Now in the UK, we have a state broadcaster, the BBC, you've probably heard of them, which means everyone has to pay somewhere near the equivalent of about $200 or more a year if they own a TV, even if they don't watch the BBC. Now previously, that never covered on-demand services from the BBC's iPlayer, but now it does. There are some really weird rules and methods of enforcement that we've discovered. Join us this week to find out what they are and how this whole thing works. That's on Text Message right now at textmessage.co.uk or just techpodcast.uk. Back to you, Tom. Techpodcast.uk is a brilliant URL. And yeah, no, that's really cool. I can't wait to listen in and find out for myself. Message of the day is from Mike, a one day behind listener, from Carl Plague to San Francisco. Carl the Fog. Carl the Fog. Let's say you are a Comcast networking engineer, says Mike, any chance you might give priority bandwidth to, I don't know, speed testing sites? Perhaps even, I don't know. Analyze their tests and cache data and responses near the edge of your customers. After doing that, what might be your next step for the Amazon video stream, which competes directly with your video offering? Not accusing anyone of anything, but it's a lot easier than cheating on a smog test. Yeah, so he's in response to the speed test rankings of the average speeds in the US showing that Comcast was number one. He's like, thinking these things. It is an arms race. Definitely ISPs have been caught trying to gain the speed test system and speed test is constantly trying to stop them from doing that because their whole business falls apart if their numbers aren't reliable. So yeah, I'm not saying that the numbers are worthless. And I actually think speed test is good enough at this from what I can tell that it wouldn't end up affecting the overall numbers. I think Comcast is just doing a good job of rolling out speeds, and that's just how bad the US speeds are that they can get on top like that. But it's a good question. It's a good question to bring up. Thank you, Mike. And I hope you are not plagued too much more by Carl. I wouldn't put him, put it past anybody. Nope. No, I knew better. Well, that is it for this episode of the Daily Tech News Show. Veronica, it worked. You did it from your new job. It was okay. It was pretty good. Just taking a hold up. Yeah, absolutely. How much can you tell folks about what you're doing there? Well, GroBot's already out on the market. I'm the product manager here just on my second week. So I still have a lot to learn. But yeah, if you're in Slack, if you work with a team, a small company, a large company, GroBot is a great way to get feedback from your fellow employees and kind of keep track of all the feedback you've had over time. Just give each other props for a job well done. Some huge companies are using us. Some tiny companies are using us. And we're having a lot of fun building on the product. So if you want to talk to me about using GroBot or if you want to test it out and let me know how it's going, yeah, just ping me. I'm on Twitter at Veronica or at TryGrobot. Excellent. And thank you to our sponsors, all of the patrons at patreon.com slash DTNS, all of the people who give through PayPal and the people who shop at our stores. 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Disclaimer, Tom is not sponsored by Royal Crown Cola. The Diamond Club to Beans won't break the title, I don't think. And what do you think people get it, though? No. That's, I don't think, I like it. Yeah, if it was the main topic, I'd risk it, but it kind of loses a point there. E2 scammer. That's pretty good, too. Apple rumor fritters, I want an Apple fritter right now. The Magic Beans of Live Streaming. Looks like Don't Tell I Lean is certainly winning. Don't, don't tell I Lean. That you get fewer points when you check in with the multi-employers off. Disclaimer, Tom is not sponsored by Royal Crown Cola. This is just moving up the charts, too. All right, I should probably get going. All right, yeah. So we want to go with Disclaimer. Do you have a final vote before you go, Veronica? I like Don't Tell I Lean. It has nothing to do with the show. We'll see if she, we'll see if she notices. Okay, bye guys. All right, bye Vy. Bye. Yay. All right, change title. Disclaimer, Tom is not sponsored by Royal Crown Cola. It's fine, it's fine. Don't tell I Lean. A lot of people won't know what that means. Yeah, I'd like to Disclaimer one. Disclaimer, DTNS is sponsored by you. Oh, I already voted for that. I'll vote for it. Oh, nine, it's at nine. What, the Royal Crown Cola one? Yeah. Is that what we're going with? Yeah. Sorry, Veronica. Well, it ties in with the show. It's way too much, it's way too long, though. All right, what about? What if we just shorten it to RC? Yeah, that works. And that looks like Roger Chang. Yes, or remote control. Beatmaster is not sponsored by Pastebin. It's so true. Let's see who I got for those weeks. Have not read Planet Earth. Let me see, I got so many things to do. Yeah, if you've been wondering where Patrick Beja is, he is a European, so he's taking a big chunk of August off. That's why we had, it was Lamar on Tuesday last week, was that right? And I asked Lamar. It's good, it's a good show. I wonder if he went to Euro Disney, or he just went. I don't think so. I don't know where he's going. Has he been to Euro Disney? Oh, yeah, he has. He's been to all, he's been to Japan Disney, Euro Disney, and Anaheim Disney. I don't know if he's been to Orlando, but I think he's mentioned all those. Now, I've probably gotten it wrong and he'll tell me, so. The only foreign theme park I've been to is, I know I've been to two foreign theme parks, but the last one was Universal Studios in Osaka. See, I want to go to Universal Studios in Osaka, but we only have a day in Osaka. So everyone's like, we're not going to spend our only day in Osaka going to a place we could go in the US. Unfortunately, I think they may be right. Well, you know, but you could say that about pretty much everything. You could go to a department store. Well, no, there's lots of things that you can't, you can't go to in the US. I mean, I'm, I get it, you don't get it. This is what happens when I try to reason with you and edit it at the same time. Reasonable edits. Okay, I'm trying to, I can't forget to put Chris, Chris, Chris, the podcasters. Tech and travel into this episode. Who has not gotten back to me? Oh, Ashley, Karen, she did not get back to me. Terry, I need to schedule here. Oh, cool. Yeah, I need to get in touch with Terry. I'll figure out a day with him. Bunch of people, bunch of people. All right, oh shoot. Why is it doing that? I have to remember to edit off the big long pause at the beginning of this recording that happened. That's the wrong one. What happened? I imported the wrong audio file. Actually, I think I may have levelated the wrong audio file. Yeah, that happens sometimes. So I re-leveled Owen's episode. Oh, instead of doing today's episode. And the reason I know that is because I went to the front and I was like, hold on. That doesn't have a gap because I started the recording. Remember, I started the recording and then it just went poof. I was like, that doesn't have the gap from when I started the recording. So we've got more time to chat. More time for you to tell me about all the things that I should do in Japan. I guess eat, don't shop for clothes. Oh, actually, you might be able to. I wasn't able to. They have my size, but they're cut for scrawny people. So if I got something that would fit, it's not because I have a pretty wide chest. It's not like I've got man-boosers. I just got a broad chest. But if I got anything that was designed for that width, it was designed for someone who's six-two. So if I wear it, it's down to my knees, like a coat or something or a jacket. Or they're pants, same thing with the pants. Shoes, shoes are ridiculous. I have 11 and a half triple E's. Try to find, try to fly. Your feet are 11 and a half? Yeah, why? Do they not? No, no, that's just minor, like 10 and a half or 11, depending. So I would not have expected you to have that. I have hobbit feet. Well, they're not hairy. That's what I'm saying. No, no. But they are big, I guess. People say they're big for my size. I don't know. Maybe at some point I was destined for real estate that had that was soggy or bigger feet would help me to amble across it. You were meant to be some kind of river creature. I guess, I don't know. I don't like being wet though. I mean, I don't mind being in the water, but when you're drenched in your clothes, it's kind of gross. Yeah, it's gross. Let's see, Terry. Who else, who's lovely Matilda? Oh, that was that weird adult friend finder thing. I get so many of these. It's so annoying. Non hasn't got it, might have to be Evan. Hey. There we have it. Oh, I have to get back to Evan Thursday. Okay, I got that guy. Lloyd, I have to get back to, soon we have to get back to you. That's the computer vintage. Oh, yeah, that Evan got it. Interesting. I thought it was, I thought his last name was Cobald, like the, like the gnome like creature in the D&D, but it's not. Oh, no, take candle. That's what the Cobalds say in World of Warcraft. I like the gnomes. Are they the ones that do, that build all the little mechanical contraptions or the doors or whatever? World of Warcraft? Yeah. Yeah. Mortar. Then they built the little blimp things. Pretty cool. Pretty cool race. Hey, I didn't say it. Freakish feet, Scottis. I just said I had 11 and a half. Doesn't make it freakish. Jesus. You know what they say? Well, how tall are you? If you don't mind my asking, how tall are you? I am five, nine, literally on the nose. Like the nurse, the nurse measured me. Your feet are a little big for your height, but it's not freakish. I would not call that freakish. How is it freakish? No, I would not. I think there's the exact size. If you were like five, four, and you had size 13 feet, then you're starting to border on what might be considered on. You know Lawrence Fishburne said, where Lawrence Fishburne on Peewee's Playhouse said, hey, Peewee, you know what they say about coffee with big feet. They wear big boots. Yeah. That's the truth about Roger. He does wear big boots. And his wife likes big boots on him when he wears them. Triple E's. I don't know why my feet are so wide. That's actually- I think my dad was double E. He had to pretty wide feet. I unfortunately sometimes have to go up to a 12 because no one stocks a wide enough shoe. So like, if I get my one that actually fits the length- So you'll take the floppy toe in exchange for the proper width. Yeah, because honestly, having crushed toes is incredibly bad for you. Yeah. I can see that. 11 and a half freakish. See, now I'm looking at my feet thinking like they're a little too big. See, now I know why Chinese women had their feet bound. People were so self-conscious about big feet. That and the men didn't want their wives to walk away from a bad marriage. But you know, when you got concubines and porcupines. Concubines and porcupines? That sounds like some kind of like 70s. Sit comp. Concubines and porcupines. Pop song. Concubines and porcupines. And cranberries. Well, it's interesting. And this is totally not safe for anyone under the age of 18. All right. Just back away from your television sets, folks. Porcupines are the only other land ant mammal that do it missionary style. People always wonder, how do they do it? And I get stuck. If your kids are asking, that means... They're too young to do it. Whatever you want to tell them, that means. Crash test dummies. That was just a horrible... You know, I really got hooked on that song because they kept playing it in rotation. That song. But man, that album is stupid. There's just so many stupid songs on it. There's so many crappy bands from the 90s that I look back and it's like, what were they thinking? Remember, Ween pushed a little daze as they watched them come up? Ah, that was just a stupid song. God, so nice. Stupid song. I don't know why I'm so angry about this. He's always been. Yeah, even my roommate in college said, Roger, you're an old man. All you ever do is complain about everything. It's like, well, there's nothing to be, you know, nothing virtuous about extolling bad habits. Oops. When it wasn't yet hip to do so. Well, they only had the one or two... No, they had two albums. I know that guy went solo, but he had a freakishly huge head for his body. Kind of like Billy Corrigan, which is why I don't think he should have ever shaved his head. Because then he looks like, you know what? I should just shut up. I'm going to be mean and... Don't be mean to Billy Corrigan. I'm a stick. Although I have to say your appearances on the show recently have met with vocal approval. I don't know if you've been looking at the emails. I look excited. I saw the two emails. Were there more? There's a couple more. Or Roger. What did Eileen call me? Like I'm like, what's his name on community? Abed. Abed, she called you Abed. Because all I do is just point out people's flaws. All you do is win, win, win, win, win. All right, we're going to wrap it up here so I can focus on making sure this gets uploaded. But thank you all for joining us. You're the best. Please tip your waitress. Try the vegan veal. And we'll see you tomorrow. Bye.