 into the Ryan behind the curtain. I am the great and powerful gauze. Wait, who's the other Ryan? Ryan, not Randall. Reynolds, yeah. Yeah, he's a good look. I don't think Ryan Gauzing looks a little dopey to me, in the face, in the eyes specifically. Well, I can see where you might not love either one of them, but it- But I think Ryan- It strikes me that you are actively annoyed by them. No, I'm not annoyed by both of them, just gauzling. Just gauzling, all right, all right. The other Ryan doesn't bother me. Interesting. It does not elicit this image. Something about his face, just want to punch it. Something in the way he moves distracts you, like no other actor. Maybe. He's a good actor, Roger. He elicits emotion from you. That's right. Yeah, he's provoking a strong emotion. You know, it's like that crap that people say. I'd rather be hated than not be, was it then people not have any opinion? Have any opinion? Yeah. That's not crap. That's like marketing 101. Yeah, exactly. I'd rather fly below the radar. If you don't notice me, that's great. Well, that's a personal preference. That's perfectly respectable. I like under the radar. You're not trying to market Roger as a global brand. The more people know you, the more they know about you. Generally, that's not a good idea. Yeah, definitely not a market. Wait a minute, really? Positioned. I have to rethink some serious little choices. Hold on. Let me... I don't have an exhibition streak or a bone in my body. Some people do. Like some people are very mild mannered, but like when you get in a jug or something, they're like super off the wall. But me? No, I'm exactly the same. If I could get sleepier. You're pretty off the wall when you're drunk, but not in the way you're talking about. I mean, you can't find the wall. Literally. Just give me the high sign when you're all set up there, Justin. I am good to go. All right. I will give Roger control. Yes, I knew you were gonna ask for that. All right. Here. A wee. A go. Daily Tech News Show is powered by you. You don't have to pedal or anything. Just support us on Patreon or PayPal. Head to DailyTechNewsShow.com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, July 20th, 2017. I'm Tom Merritt. Justin Robert, young joining us live from Austin, Texas. Mm-hmm. Yes, Yippee-ki-yay, Tom. As everybody in Austin is constantly saying. Yeah. Howdy, howdy, howdy. 100 to six years I lived there. I was just one Yippee-ki-yay after another. It's mostly how they communicate with each other, isn't it? Yeah. Isn't it true the Texans have 127 words for Yippee-ki-yay? They certainly do. And yet no starting quarterback. But I guess that's a piece of... Shots fired before Texas football. Hey, we're gonna talk about Microsoft's move into the smart home today. Little video sort of, they just kind of left it there on their YouTube channel. Didn't make a big deal out of it. Yeah, which is always a great way to show that you have faith in a new product. Perhaps. Perhaps, perhaps not. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. OnePlus announced it got in touch with a customer who found that his OnePlus 5 phone rebooted anytime an attempt was made to call 911. OnePlus has tested a software update on that person's phone. It works. And they're rolling out that patch to everybody now. You know, we're gonna get into another security vulnerability later. But always good when these are caught as early with as few casualties as possible. And in the case of the 911 call, thankfully that is a literal statement of fact. Yeah, you know, you really need that fixed. So good job fixing it. Twitter product head Ed Ho and VP of Trust and Safety, Del Harvey told reporters that Twitter is taking action against 10 times the number of accounts it did a year ago. They also claim that Twitter has suspended twice as many accounts in the last four months as it did in the previous four. Twitter has been criticized for not taking enough action of against abuse on its platform. Yeah, okay. You're over your numbers, totally respectful. Like, hey, a year ago, we weren't catching as many people now we are great. I'll buy that one. The four months is so cherry picking now. Like, let's find the part of the graph that looks the best and use that. The win for Twitter is they're talking about it. If they can move the conversation to this is an active thing that we are trying to get better at and they can give themselves credit for getting over the hump on some of the challenges that they have. I think as much as this is a vital problem, it is not an easy problem. And I'm glad Twitter's doing something about it, but you're right. This is a big fat participation ribbon. Yeah. Here are some more top stories. Europol and the US FBI confirmed the takedown of the Alpha Bay and Hansa Dark Web Marketplaces. The two marketplaces were accessible using a Tor browser. So if you're like, I didn't know about these, that's probably why. Alpha Bay went down July 4th. We talked about it previously on the show. Caused an eight-fold increase in users at Hansa, which allowed law enforcement to collect 10,000 addresses of Europeans that were Hansa customers. Takedown involved law enforcement in the United States, Department of Justice here, Canada, Thailand, and Europe. You know, the big questions here in my mind are, how long did they have Hansa under control at the point that they created this honeypot to push some of the Dark Web markets there? Yeah, that is an interesting question that I have not seen an answer to. I don't know if there is an answer to it out there, but it is a clever move to shut down Alpha Bay, flush out the customers to a competing service where you're waiting to catch their information. You do get into risks of entrapment and things like that and execute that properly. Sure, but something like this makes it sound like you are dealing with a very, very, very convoluted set of rights and laws when you are dealing with so many countries. You're across so many different jurisdictions here, yeah. And as Shannon and I talked about on Friday, this certainly doesn't spell the end of these kind of marketplaces. Someone will come back and figure out how to do this again, but this is a big takedown and it will put the market in disarray for a while. CNBC reports that Intel has closed down its wearables effort two weeks ago. Intel's new technologies group had reportedly shifted focus to augmented reality. Workers on the wearables project were apparently given a chance to be reassigned within Intel. The move may be addressed in Intel's earnings report coming up on July 27th. So Brian Krasanich I think has done an admirable job of focusing Intel and saying, let's get ahead, let's get to the next market. And when he came in, wearables was conceivably that next market and they weren't necessarily too late to it. But it has shown that the wearables market, well, I think people saying it's dying or dead is way overdoing it. The wearables market is not a huge market, it's not growing robustly right now. And when you look at it, you may be forgiven for thinking it has matured and this is just as big as it's gonna get. Intel obviously doesn't think there's a big growth opportunity for it there. So it's moving ahead to augmented reality, which is where a lot of growth is going to happen. You know, it's funny. I'm here in Austin staying with your friend in mind, Brian Brushwood and his daughters. And I had this conversation about a friend in mind, we all have friends that work at these big companies that they are aware of even as young children. And the idea being, well, every company in Silicon Valley is hiring at a breakneck speed until they're gone. Like they are onboarding at ridiculous rates until they go away because everything's gotta be gigantic. So when you look at wearables, it's very similar. It's Ant-Man. It'll make money. It's fine. The people that do it right will make money on it. It's just not the iPod. It's not the iPhone. It's not even the iPad. It's not the Avengers. It's not Iron Man. It's not Guardians of the Galaxy. And so when you look at that, then Intel, which has always done its best filling in an already robust market with their available technology, just doesn't have anywhere to go. And so now it's off to the next shiny thing, augmented reality, which is almost perfect. When you're providing processors, when you're providing parts for things, and you're seeing what looks like a fairly stable market, but not a rising one, and you haven't captured a large part of that market yet, you don't wanna get caught doing what Intel did with mobile, which was spending too long trying to make headway against other people when they could have been building a business in another sector here. That said, I think wearables still has a chance to do some major growth. Sure. It's just not guaranteed. And it's gonna take somebody coming in and doing something unexpected. I'm not convinced that we won't see a wearable that breaks down the wall. On the other hand, if wearables just stay as fitness trackers you wear on your wrist, and some nice watches for the rest of time, that wouldn't shock me either. I mean, the biggest thing that you have to crack with wearables are having radios right on the devices so they can be independent of anything else that you have and therefore be valuable in any sense and also have batteries that can match that kind of processing. And maybe that's it. Maybe you've hit on it. If there's a big battery technology advance, suddenly the wearables market might get a little more interesting. Yeah. So yeah, go ahead. Apple's latest update to iOS patches a flaw in the Broadcom Wi-Fi chip that would have allowed a nearby attacker to crash the phone. You wouldn't have had to do anything just to have Wi-Fi on. If Wi-Fi was on, an attacker could have done this if they were nearby. Because the flaw existed in the chip, it also affected other operating systems, notably Android. Android patched this on July 5th. So it's now patching both major operating systems. Security researcher Netai Artinstein of Exodus Intelligence discovered the exploit and he's gonna present about it at Black Hat on July 27th. Part of the summer of sharks. Justin, the attackers are out. Of course, with Black Hat and Defconn coming up, lots of these kinds of stories are gonna start trickling out. And also a reminder, whenever you're going to these security conferences, please turn off your Wi-Fi. In fact, bury your phone in your yard. Turn your phone off. Take the battery out if you can. Do not, yeah, bring holy water. This is something that obviously is gonna get a lot of attention because Apple and security exploit are in the same headline. But really, this is the best case scenario. Like we should be reporting this, not as shame, shame, shame. We found this thing in Apple, but rather like a new medical breakthrough. Like we should be reporting this like as if Pfizer came out with a pill that cures cancer. There is a flaw in our system and we have found it. And now somebody who is not malicious can take credit for it, get famous for it, and we can all move on a safer life. Yeah, I don't think we'd say that there are no errors attributable to negligence because that's certainly not true. There are vulnerabilities that people will point to and say, that should never have been happened. Right, you know. And the clearest example of that is, let's say there's a vulnerability which exposes your password without encrypting it, right? That just shouldn't happen. That's an example, right? This is not that kind of thing. This is a flaw in the chip. And sure, maybe if Broadcom spent a little more time they would have caught it, but there's a lot of what ifs and securities these days because vulnerabilities are going to be exploited. There are so many eyes on them. So many more eyes in the world looking for vulnerabilities than any single company can employ that what you need is a bunch of those eyes on your side. And that's what Nitae Artinstein is. He's the guy on your side who found the flaw and said, hey, here's the flaw. You might want to patch that. Which Apple and Android have done? So like you say, it's a win. Responsible disclosure, fixing the patch before it can be exploited and everybody go out and patch your phones. Everybody got to it in a reasonable amount of time but also panic, panic, panic. Apple is now being exploited. Everybody jump up and down. Summer of sharks. No sharks here in Rwanda's Akejira National Park. They've launched a system letting rangers monitor animals, visitors and equipment in real time. System which uses low power, long range, wide area network protocol was developed by the conservation organization's shadow view and internet of life. Such signals are harder for poachers to intercept and block. 100 solar power sensors send signals to 12 different systems. 100 solar power sensors send signals to 12 gateways at high elevation points in the park which really, sorry, which relayed the signal to the central control room. A smaller version was previously installed in Tanzania, is it Tanzania or Tanzania? Tanzania. Tanzania, right? The next stop is to tag animals with sensors and eventually incorporate video live feeds. I'm really interested in this because Lora Wan, the long range, wide area network is developed for internet of things and specifically for urban settings for smart cities type of stuff for putting sensors around neighborhoods and things like that. So adapting it and using it in a national park setting to fight poachers is a great alternative use and a great adaptive use and a great example of when technology comes out we don't always anticipate all the things it might be good for. And I'm just fascinated by this idea of putting the sensors down on the ground. They've only put 100 down, but the system could support I think 100,000 or so of these. Broadcasting to the gateways, gateways broadcast back, then putting them on the animals themselves to track them. There's just so much that's interesting about this and in a different setting than like, oh, downtown Amsterdam is gonna, which they are, gonna put in long range, wide area network protocol to do this and that city improvement which is interesting itself, but I love the fact that we have so many different ways of implementing and especially with internet of things where a lot of people roll their eyes and like, great, I don't need a smart fridge. I don't need my garage door to open automatically when I come home. I don't need my paperweight to talk to my pen knife. Yeah, but maybe preserving wild animals and keeping a park setting a lovely place for people to visit is a great way to use this. Oh, not to mention what it can do for research, right? You know, tracking migrations and head counts and stuff. Those are things that have always been kind of guesstimated. If you can have hard data on that, I think that there's a huge step forward and you're right, this is, you know, every once in a while you gotta do something silly to get to something serious and as much as everybody can roll their eyes over, you know, like, well, my fridge is gonna tell me when the hams want that. It's like, you can get cool stuff like this. And we talk a lot about Project Loon, Facebook's Wing, bringing rural people, internet, and these are great projects, but there's a lot of companies that fly under the radar, pun intended, like Shadowview and Internet of Life, who are the folks who I'll put this in place and they just don't get as much attention. Absolutely. And Africa, in my opinion, just the most exciting place to watch technological breakthroughs. Like there was just such ingenuity on that continent. It seems like we're so reliably, every year you get five or six, like, oh, wow, that's cool. That's a really cool workaround. Yeah, there's crazy good startup communities in Irwanda, in Kenya, in South Africa, in Nigeria. And Irwanda, particularly the government there, has been very pro-technology, trying to push technology forward. Hopefully that is maintained as new governments come into power there. But yeah. All right, Tom, new Patreon goal. Let's do a week in Africa. Talk to African entrepreneurs. I feel like this is going to happen. I love that, yeah. I know. All right, we'll talk. Well, sorry that that's so interesting because our next story, Justin, is boring. Oh, stop it. Stop it. In fact, I take back that you don't get to go to Africa. Oh, damn, I lost my privileges. Boring company CEO Elon Musk. I enjoy calling him boring company CEO Elon Musk. We all know he's the CEO of Tesla, all in SpaceX and everything else. But Elon Musk said on Twitter that his tunneling company has, quote, this is the quote from Elon Musk on Twitter saying this, we have no other sources, says, received verbal gov'd approval to build an underground NY-FIL-Balt-DC hyperloop, NY-DC and 29 Minns, city center to city center in each case with up to a dozen or more entry slash exit elevators in each city. So we had a fun time talking before the show in the morning, as we usually do, hashing out the stories about exactly what even that meant that theoretically there are four stops, right? And then if you go city center to city center, right, there's four stops. So four stops. I took the dozen or more entry to exit elevators to mean there were 12 stops, but you were thinking that might just mean multiple ways to get into each city center stop, which actually makes more sense to me. Yeah. But we don't know, because again, the only source we have is Elon Musk's own tweet about this. Which as much as you should be, have a healthy skepticism about any kind of major public works project being tweeted randomly by a CEO who, by the way, had publicly kind of taken himself out of the, I'm going to make hyper loops game when he published that white paper. Is he contracting with HTT or somebody to make the hyper loops? We don't know. We don't know. And also I'm curious to see how this evolves because I think that there are probably going to be plenty of journalists all throughout state houses in, you know, Albany and, you know, and I'm trying to remember my state capitals for everything, but they're going to be asking Jefferson City. Yeah. They're going to be asking state officials exactly what he means. Is this a federal project that has to be run through the states? But, you know, this is the kind of stuff. Like let's, let's imagine a world that this is, that this happens, right? And a million miles between here and there. But that would theoretically mean you can live in Baltimore and work in New York. Yeah. You know? I mean, if it really is 29 minutes, let's put on time to get to the city center stop, time to get from the city center stop. Let's double it to an hour. You still could live in D.C. and work in New York or vice versa. Yeah. Which is, which is amazing. The problem is you won't be able to afford to do either. You know, maybe. Who knows? Well, you're going to hop in yourself, in your self-driven Tesla. And yeah, that's going to take you down to the hyper loop. And yep, yep, yep. No, I'll, I'll give Elon Musk credit. When he says crazy things, which he does quite often. Yes. A lot of times they'll end up turning out to be true. Like I'm going to have a reusable rocket. He really does have a reusable rocket. Or I'm going to test my new, my new boring equipment in the parking lot. Yes. And he did. He actually did that. So sure, he also tweets things like, we'll be on Mars by 2050. Maybe or maybe not, that won't come true. But I'm willing to believe he must have gotten some kind of indication that he would be allowed to do this. Verbal government approval is very far from paperwork filed permits issued. Yeah. And, and although to be fair, getting rights to dig something is a lot easier than getting rights to build something on top of something else. Sure. Still need those permits though. Yeah. In triplicate, please have them signed by the end of the business day. Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, be sure to subscribe to Daily Tech Headlines at dailytechheadlines.com on the Amazon Echo or anchor app at anchor.fm. All right, here's a little more about Johnson Controls. Johnson Controls is a huge company. They were founded by the man who created the first thermostat. They are controversial as a multinational company on their own, but they also make thermostats. And they make thermostats for lots of large companies partnering with Microsoft to build the Cortana assistant into a new thermostat called GLAS, G-L-A-S. GLAS has a touchscreen, but can also respond to voice commands because Cortana. It can handle temperature control, air quality readings, and have a calendar schedule. GLAS runs Windows 10 IoT Core, supports Azure Cloud Services. Assume that's probably where the cloud services will be pushed to the device. Thermostat was revealed in a YouTube video on Microsoft's YouTube channel. No price or release date. And given what the rhetoric of the video is and the fact that it's Johnson Controls, my guess is this is about enterprise settings. This is about facilities, could be apartment buildings maybe, but also company headquarters and factories and things like that. Has this idea come and gone? That was my initial thought. Because we've had Nest. Nest is obviously, and not to say that Nest is every smart thermostat company, but they were probably the most famous one. They kind of defined that genre for a little bit. Now the big Internet of Things device is voice assistant, headless voice assistants effectively, although there are more and more screens kind of coming to these projects. It doesn't seem like this is supposed that the thermostat won the war for being the control point for your home. The always on speaker did. So is this already going to where the puck was and not where the puck is headed? Yeah, I don't think that war is over yet. We may be at the Maginot line. War is over if you want it. If you want it, that's true. Happy Christmas. I think that Amazon is taking a very smart approach in saying we want to get our Amazon voice services in everything. That's why the Ecobie thermostat has it, because they don't want to sit back and say, great, speakers. That's what everybody wants. And they'll put speakers everywhere and that will control everything. You put it in as many places as possible so that somebody who doesn't have the speakers then gets the thermostat, the Ecobie thermostat, and says, oh, well, now I'm familiar with Amazon voice services and I will start wanting to use it in other situations. That's how you win the war, in my opinion. The other answer to that is Microsoft is not with Nest or even Ecobie with this. Microsoft is heading off in an entirely different direction. It's heading to the other front and saying, listen, Nest doesn't work great if you need thermostats on several floors across hundreds of people, but you know who does make thermostats that work great with that or Johnson Controls? So we got our voice assistant there. Maybe they're positioning Cortana, I'm not saying exclusively, but positioning Cortana to be the voice assistant of choice in the enterprise. That's a really, really good idea. Obviously, enterprise is where Microsoft has thrived for a very, very long time. This is something that they don't have to sell a million different times to different vendors. You can just put it on whatever is going to be the most mass marketed version of it. But I still have this thought that the more we talked about the thermostat and A, how many people have thermostats, right? Which I think it is ubiquitous, but it is not, you know, everybody doesn't have- It's widespread. You took me to task when we were preparing that not everybody has a thermostat, that's true. No, I think all right thinking people should and having grown up in Florida that not every place on the planet has central air conditioning, but is the thermostat where your voice will hit? Like that's the cool thing about the Echo is that the Echo will go in the center of where you are going to be. You can unplug it, you can move it, but you can make sure that it is where it needs to be. A thermostat is not that. A thermostat needs to live in a certain place and very often it's not in the middle of your house. It's usually by the front door or something like that. So you can walk in and adjust your temperature. Mine have always been in hallways, but also not the place where you're hanging out, right? Yeah, yeah. So I mean, I think it doesn't hurt Microsoft to put Cortana wherever they can, right? They need to do that. And there really is an arms race now of how many people can interact with each of these voice assistants because as good as they are or have gotten, they're not as good as they will be the more and more people use them. Like the nature of all these voice programs are the more they're used, the more lead these companies and these voice assistants will have as it gets better and better at understanding things. That's kind of, I would again give two responses here because I'm of two minds what Microsoft's up to here. On the one hand, you're absolutely right. The thermostat isn't the central part of where someone is, but I'd go back to Amazon voice services strategy of saying, hey, but if we get there in the thermostat and they start using that, they may want it in other parts of the room. That may not be the hub, but that may be the hub the way into the hub or that may be the hub and that gets them to buy other peripherals and use other things in our system. And Microsoft may be thinking that a little bit as well. The other thing is for this, the more I think about it, the more I look at this video, the more I realize the voice part of it is not the thing they're spending a lot of time on. Obviously it will be an aspect of this. And in a workplace situation, it's probably something you wanna lock down and not let a lot of people have access to because you don't want every worker that's like heading off to lunch go, hey Cortana, turning up the heat to 100 degrees. Thanks, bye. You're gonna have to have some security on that. But the assistant part, the analytics part, the ability to tell you, hey, you know what? You've got nobody in this section of your workplace, we're gonna turn the blinds off, or turn the blinds on to cover the window and drop the cooling down there and save you some energy. That part of Cortana Assistance maybe even not speaking out of the thermostats themselves but speaking out of the facilities director's laptop, that could be really valuable. Sure, sure. And look, I'll tell you what, this has been a very positive Internet of Things day today. We are real bullish on Internet of Things. Yeah, it's Internet of Things and AI are all over our tech news recently, aren't they? Yeah. Phones are the new laptop, like they're kind of interesting. A new one that has something really cool on it is catching our eye. I mean. But they're pretty commodity now. And the idea that the phones are your laptop, right? For most people. For a lot of people. Primary computing device. Sometimes it's their Internet connection too. It just replaces a home Internet connection. So, well, folks, let us know what you think. Do you want to have a smart thermostat? Not just a smart thermostat like the Nest, but one you can talk to with the voice assistant inside. Let us know. Feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com. Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit. You can submit stories and vote on them at DailyTechNewsShow.Reddit.com. We also have a Facebook group going on at facebook.com slash DailyTechNewsShow, facebook.com slash groups slash DailyTechNewsShow as well. And on our subreddit, I wanted to give a shout out that someone submitted the documentary that Patrick Beja showed up in. If you want to take a look at that, go easily find the link at the top of the subreddit. It's a just released documentaire, documentaire on YouTube about Patrick Beja and podcasting in France. Totally worth checking out. 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Where does Intel get off? Where does it get off of wearables? Yeah, where? Oh, where? Oh, it's a grim minute. I get it now. Cortana, it's getting hot in here. Cortana, so take off all your clothes. Oh jeez. Of course, yes. Did Elon Musk turn in his TPS reports? Intel shows it's closed. I like a song. Elon Musk keeps us in the loop. The hyper loop. Oh. Twitter is 10 times tougher. More boring news, Elon Musk. Bringing holy water, parkway and disturb. You know, we did that one. Verbal loops. Not available in China. What is it? Chobot.tv? Yeah. A shot in the dark web. I know I shouldn't do things like that. And yet. And yet, here we are. Yeah, yeah, we're here. Verbal loops. Loops on loops on loops. Kind of like a shot in the dark web, but. Let's let's do a shot in the dark web. That's that actually is like kind of the story. It's a fun pun. I'm down with it. It's got a veiled Ozzy Osbourne reference. Yeah. What's not to love? Not anything here. It's all lovable. Undermind says, off key made it better. Did it. Did it though. Did it really? Yeah, I still need. I never got that coffee from my. Oh man, I never did either. I really should have too. I did. What area of Austin are you in right now, then? North Austin. North of downtown. I know that this would be. Lots of Austin's have a north. I'm right next to Hyde Park. Oh, crap. That's my old, my old stop of grants. That's where I used to. I used to live in Hyde Park. I am right on the corner of, let's say, Lamar and 45th. Holy crap. You should go to where Tom was born and take foot. Oh, wait, I wasn't born there. I the first place I lived was at 45th and Guadalupe or 45th and Duval. 45th and you're like. Four or five blocks away from that. Hold on. Wait a minute. I'm going to find this is very important news. Yeah, breaking news. You should find it, take a photo and slack it to Tom. Duval. And then make funny faces in front of it. Oh, look, Curly made it to Comic Con. Oh, we did. Curly did. Yeah, it's just funny. He's in San Diego. Yeah, it is an 18 minute walk from where I am right now to your old stop and your old stop and grounds. Tommy Boy, 18 minutes. Yeah. You're actually pretty near the current location of the bookstore I worked at, although it was down on Guadalupe closer to campus back when I. Yeah, this is it seems like a fairly new live work that the old daily dot got a. Is there a Walgreens there right now? No, all this stuff is super new. And it's all probably tore that down already. Walgreens was new. The Walgreens was put in right before I left in 1999. So that's hilarious that that's already gone and been redeveloped again. Oh, yeah. Cool beans. Well, because I am a guest here. Yes, of course, I'm going to I'm going to go make nice. Give my best to the daily dot. Oh, I will. Oh, that's going to happen. All right, guys, thank you so much. I'll see you later. Good job. Peace out. And so once again, Justin Robert Young rides off into the sunset of Texas, looking for that next big action news break, action news break. They should make a candy bar to go with it. You know what? I should bring action news on Sunday when I drop that mixer by and we can play it. Oh, then you'll then the next time you see Justin, you can actually say you've played. I've played your game. I understand you now off that's. No, but I'm not to tell you it was awful. I'll be like, no, it's not awful. I'm totally I'm totally kidding. Anyone trying to take me seriously, it's it was really fun. I think you'd like it. I wonder if Jen, does Jen like card games? Yes, she does. She likes card games a lot like it to them. She tried to get me to play a bunch of card games when we first were dating and say, what the hell am I doing here? That's funny. When Eileen and I were first together, we played board games. Even after we moved in together, we would play board games. And then there was a point where we just stopped. And one day I was like, do you want to play a board game? She's like, no, and I don't think we've played a board game together alone in the house since we've played it in other situations. But I like playing. But I like my history of playing board games is like either Scrabble, Trivial Pursuit or they are or like it's. And I'm talking when I say board games, I am if I am specifically not saying tabletop games because I'm talking about life, monopoly, that kind of stuff. Because I was just about to say like, well, I played Fortress America. I played strategic. Like I played a lot of war like games like Schetigo. There's another game like that. It's also a board game that I was like super into. But it's only fun with like more than two people. That's the thing, right? I think I think that's why we ended up stopping playing. Did Veronica ever tell you the time she and I were were regularly going out to a D&D game? Oh, yeah. No, I knew about that. Wasn't Josh Lawrence part of that, too? No, no, no, no. He was it would have been I was a friend. Remember her talking about a regular D&D gig? The problem is it really made me remind it really reminded me why I stopped playing the game. It's not that I hate the game. It just takes for ever. You can take a long time. That's yeah. I remember playing it for like a summer and I was like, I do. I can't do this, you know, or regular. It's really good for people who have time. But I feel that way about video games sometimes where I'm like, I don't have a few hours to get into a video game. To me, it's not just a time. It's the scheduling like everyone. Well, a lot of video games require scheduling, too, if they're MMOs, right? Yeah. Oh, see, that's why I don't play MMOs, because there's an obligation. I was talking to one of my coworkers, a game game when I was working at GameSpot and like there because they were super wild fanatics. And it's just like I was asked, OK, you want to come with us? We're going to grab drinks after work. It's like, no, I got to be with I have a raid. I have a raid. Yeah, exactly. And one of the other co-workers is like, yeah, those guys, those guilds are super serious about that. Well, the other thing I ran into is I'm on the West Coast. So I would get into this regular wild thing where I would join up with some people and we'd do five man's five man dungeons. So not even super serious. But we would run until midnight and I'm like, this is I can't stay up this late. And I'm playing with people on the East Coast, in some cases. I'm like, how do you stay up this late? Like, you have to be a night owl to do that. The closest I'd ever gotten was when I was a regular left for dead player and I was with like two or three people when I was really small. But the great thing is the game ends in like 45 minutes. So you're not obligated to be there forever. Yeah, yeah. Which is I'm not saying it wasn't fun. It was really fun. It's just like it's time consuming. Every time after that, I'm like, oh, do I have enough time to actually do this? Because you don't want to be that person who ducks out in the middle and ruins it for everybody. It makes things hard. Our healer decided to go spend time with his wife. I mean, not that they'd miss my DPS, but still. Oh, we're going to go right here. It's like now. No, no. It's one of the reasons I like Hearthstone because the games, I mean, a 20 minute game is crazy long. The games are usually quite short. So you can you can easily squeeze them in. But like D&D, that's like an hour and like if you start from scratch, getting everyone like in the beginning mode of your like, you know, including character development. And it's like an hour before you even do anything. Like step on them. Beef said he played Siv five the other day for 24 hours straight. Man, I used to do that, not Siv five. I used to play Siv and SimCity 2000 for hours and hours and hours on end. I think it's a thing when you get older, you just you can't sustain it. I remember playing the was it Siv Revolution? Yeah, one for the game console. It's a super cut down version of Siv. But I remember playing it and finishing the game overnight. But it took me like six, no, it took me six, seven hours. But when I started to when I finished, I said, I just want to finish this game. I got to finish this game, created my space, spaceship and went off in orbit. Dark Redeemer points out that's how magic started. It was meant to be a quick game to play between long D&D setups. No, I remember. I remember how magic started. And then they started adding booster packs and other stuff to it. And it's like, dude, this game now is just as long. It's not just as long, but it's got longer. D&D only an hour. Well, that's only if two underminded asked, D&D only an hour, that's pretty fast to get set up and started. Well, the two people we were playing with already had their characters already set up. So they were helping us get our characters in order. And then just basically figuring out a story. The thing is, those games are only good if you have a good DM. And, you know, not to be a jerk, but you have to be really, you have to be, honestly, you have to be really good. You just have to be a very competent storyteller in order to make it fun. Because then or else the game starts revealing its statistical backbone. Oh, crap. Stats, stats, stats. Unless you're a stats nerd who religiously downloads the MOB season, pre-season, post-season stats for your fantasy games. Do you still do that? The FannieBee Baseball League? Yeah, I do. With the rotating cup award trophy thing. Mm-hmm, I sure do. I haven't seen that trophy in a long time. Let me tell you, though. Because you have to win to get the trophy set to you. And if you win, don't you get, you get first pick, first pick of the draft, right? No, no, opposite. You get last pick if you win. Got it. The person who comes in last gets first pick. Sorry, something got messed up in the posting. That's why I'm a little distracted. And that's something was me putting the wrong link and I caught it this time, but I have to create a new post. Create a new post? Okay, all right. 3077A. You always know that I put the wrong link in the original post when you see an A in the episode number. And I think I'll need to ping it to make it show up too. Some of you probably accidentally got the wrong version, which will be the headlines again. I think I caught it fast enough that most pod catchers won't get it. But we'll see. Did you ever play any kind of like fantasies? You never played fantasy sports, right? No, I don't follow sports religiously enough to know the stats unless they do one for pro wrestling. Not so much. Oh, you know what? I said that because I wasn't really thinking about it, but you know, they do. They absolutely do. Would you do that if I found one? Sure, I mean, I don't follow wrestling anymore. This could get you back into it. Could be you're an Ellie's thing. You know, like a father taking their daughter to the ballpark. Ellie, I'm gonna show you this wrestler who can't wrestle anymore, but it was big 30 years ago. Is Rick Roode still alive? What's Rick? Oh no, he passed away. Well, you won't see her. You won't be able to take her to see him. That's true. Ravishing Rick Roode. He looked, in his heyday, he looked like my mechanic. The long hair and the big bushy mustache. Did your mechanic look like him? Maybe. He went around shirtless most of the time. Is that a wrestling thing? I don't know. I wish Justin were still here. I should have asked him. Actually, that was a question of like is that a thing? All the Comic-Con stuff coming in. Right now we're getting all the people who are assigned to cover Comic-Con writing up posts to justify why they're about people's costumes and the exhibits like Game of Thrones. Yeah. It's kind of weird how the cosplay has taken a life of its own in the way of the reporting. I guess that's cool. There's some really good people who do that stuff. And I think this is their second or third time of the year they get to bust out their alien or predator suit that they spent. An entire year making. Oh, man. KQED got hit by ransomware. Oh no. The public television station in San Francisco. What do they want? Free Big Bird. I'm like really thinking what do they want? Low-tech mode. All right, ladies and gentlemen and others, thank you for joining us. Hope you had a lovely time. We will be back tomorrow with Shannon and Len. Yay. Thanks for supporting the show. My face. Yeah, thanks for supporting the show. Goodbye.