 I get these inspired sessions where I work with movies as modern-day parables and then the Spiritist comes ripping through and I did something recently down in Mexico, it was on this movie Dark City, which is really quite a spectacular movie. And some amazing things came out of my mouth and then they actually had good recording equipment and so they edited together a three-hour movie with me using this quite amazing movie and you know when you start to look different on the built environment even the the buildings and you realize it's not carpenters and bricklayers and instruction workers that have built these buildings it's actually the mind has projected this whole cosmos out but from the human level it seems like it's we call it the built environment. I have to laugh because I was I was five years in the College of Design Art and Architecture and Planning and then I discover many years later that everything's a projection of the mind. That particular movie really shows the mind and the unconscious mind literally generating, gibrating and generating buildings coming up kind of almost a psychokinesis using the power of the mind to project out buildings. And of course in Miracles Jesus says that the miracle can save a thousand years and I think for people that have been would live with me or work with me because I've been at this traveling and doing a number of things for like 25 years with the course but it's been everything is so fast. Everything seems to swirl around me at amazing speed and it's it's not a typical life even I was saying the Sundari it's like I feel like with her life she's packed like maybe five or six seven lifetimes into this life and my friend Lisa Faris the same thing I can you can just when she goes and even tells her life I could you just wrote your book but when she does people just their eyes roll because they can't even believe it sounds like seven lifetimes it doesn't sound like one life and and I think that's also part of that celestial speed up that we acquickening and awakening where it's not really a matter of time to wake up it's a matter of willingness it's a matter of readiness and willingness you're ready and you're willing things just you connect with source you connect with spirit and things just move super fast and it can only go as fast as your mind is ready for it to go though you know some people say I want it now and they complain I want it now well if they wanted it now truly they'd have it now but there's some unconscious fear and resistances in there that is going on underneath the surface so the character is going I want it now and pounding fist and the subconscious mind is going I don't want it now and I don't want it at all almost like a subconscious temper tantrum going on and that's what we call it a split mind because there's a part of the mind that wants to wake up and a part of the mind that wants to sleep and we have some good clips from Dark City about the attack thoughts they're always promoting sleep putting their hand over people's foreheads and sleep sleep and they're vicious and they're murderous and you know that's what attack thoughts are so hopefully tonight I would say oftentimes we all have an introduction and we'll kind of go around and everything but I think the key that has just also inspired with certain clips tonight that she can kind of intuitively get her fingers instead of playing the piano she's gonna play movie maker with us tonight reach over and touch and show us various clips and then I think that will spur on questions and spur on our discussions and what is this set for seven till when seven to ten so we have a nice stretch 10 yeah we can really let the movies the movie clips be our springboards into some really deep experiences amazing experiences put it out on the web today yeah and I kept not really getting a chance to really look at it like oh that looks so cool I'd love to see something from that and here we go no you want to start with that okay very good I'll just mention that that the movie Dark City is an Australian movie but it came out some years ago and and ever since I saw it I thought well this is like a course in miracles made into a full feature length movie if you know if you were trying to say why can't it's hard for me to explain it to anybody well if they watch this movie they would go well but it's it's actually quite dark and then it goes quite light when the whole construct is turned toward the light instead of away from the light and so it goes from shadows to in the movie theater if you've been sitting there for an hour and 40 minutes in the dark and then all of a sudden this blazing light comes in it's almost like a mystical experience for me to watch that movie but also I noticed that it came to the first run three of theaters and it was gone like in three days from the first one theaters and I said I thought I could only see Jack Nicholson's face you can't handle the truth and he was saying that to the whole human race like like this movie is too much you can't handle it you're not ready for it in three days and get it out of there you know he goes like no get it out of there I don't even I'm not paying any money to see that movie but here we go Nikita's gonna lead off lead off with a clip from Dark City very good so they went from being very poor in a single room to to having this kind of a aristocrat discussion the main thing you you can gain from that clip is that everyone who comes to earth and everyone who learns through typical history and science and so on and so forth it seems like earth was here before we got here and it seems like our adventure began during birth or if we use incarnation or reincarnation past lives it's almost like we come and we dip in for some experiences that become a lifetime and from a perspective of multiple lifetimes it's like you keep returning to the past still trying to solve something and and it's really like an impossible riddle because because time and space are were made by the ego to distract you from seek you first the kingdom of heaven to distract you from the kingdom of heaven as within and the whole point is to go into a state of such depth of stillness through your meditations and through your healing that you come back into the light and remember yourself as an eternal divine being and from the human perspective it seems as if things are around us like there's a world outside of the human being and there's constantly forces of the world forces of society forces of nature forces of the cosmos that are interacting with us and and pinging on us and now in this day and age with quantum physics quantum physics is showing us in science what the mystics have told us for many centuries is that if the world seems like it's external to us but it's actually it's just our consciousness we're just seeing a reflection of our consciousness so if we don't like start world starvation world hunger war conflict or even conflict in in your own family or in your own neighborhood disease suffering pestilence everything that's experienced in the world is simply a reflection of what's believed in so this movie starts to help us have some graphics and see it acted out that we're doing this to ourselves so to speak and that the world is completely subjective so no two people see that see the same world because the world that's perceived is just a projection of thoughts so it's really just one mind asleep and dreaming it's separate from God and projecting and it's even projected out bodies and the idea of private mind so it seems like every human being has their own private little mind that's associated with the body with their own private thoughts and that there's there's some communication going on but but it's it's pretty tricky that's why we have so much conflict and more psychic conflict interpersonal conflict in families conflict in neighborhoods in societies conflict between countries conflict between the the animal kingdom and the humans there's just all kinds of conflict and it's all a projection of mind so in one sense that's a big leap even if you believe in reincarnation there's still this sense of coming in and out of this world almost like you're you're just this soul and you kind of fly around you all right there's a blue planet there I'm gonna incarnate there and as if you come into the world there's one lesson in the course of miracles lesson 132 where Jesus says when you came to this world you brought the world with you now that's getting quantum you didn't come just as a soul who decided to incarnate in some big planet called earth or some call it your ranch you study that book no when you came you brought the entire world the entire cosmos with you I always tell people imagine you have a you're like a soul your soul flying around and you have a little soul backpack and then you pull out of your soul backpack the whole cosmos just as you believe it and want it to be so everything that you experience including even astronomy and astrology and planets and black holes and quasars and stars and the whole thing is just imagine pulling the whole thing out of your little soul backpack so there's no victims because you've you've set it up exactly the way you believe it to be and you want it to be there's nothing outside there's no external cosmos or external people and all the people will say seven billion people on the planet now they're all acting out your mind's wishes almost like going to a Shakespeare play you know and you watch Macbeth or you watch one of these things and at the end they all come out the actors and actresses and you cheer this acted out that drama so well so well except when we think that's at a theater when we go back to our family and our parents or siblings children start screaming and yelling and fighting or the cat and the dog start fighting or whatever we don't go bravo but we could we they're doing a fine acting job too and we we could see that as an act as well just as a reflection of our mind so in this movie that this clip that Nikita just showed there's the unconscious mind where there's that big mask and then behind the mask when the mask opens up there's a clock and time is is the conflict so basically what this clip is showing is it's an unconscious mind and all those little creatures dressed in black those are representing in this clip attack thoughts in our mind whenever we have attack thoughts and judgments in our mind we manifest the world using the power of the mind in our judgments and that's why Jesus taught in the Sermon on the Mount judge not lest you be judged because if you judge you're just gonna witness to your own judgments and it's just gonna be frustrating because it's gonna seem like there's someone outside of you that's acting in a way behaving in a way doing something that you think that's not right and yet you've chosen that it be that way in a course of miracles that's the second lesson in the workbook I have given everything I see all the meaning it has for me so imagine that even if we use this example of sitting around in a room tonight watching these movie clips that if you just look around and you look at the furniture and you look at the room just the way it is and you look at all these human beings that are in here with this this is the way the mind wanted it to be it's it you might say that you know was this room here and this people here before you got here well you know you might think well the room was here we the people just came into it but no you if you bring I've given everything I see all the meaning every scene we see in the script every scenario we see we're constantly projecting meaning and that's why we need mind training we need to clear our minds and to release the attack thoughts release the judgments because we're going to keep projecting those attack thoughts until we release them and it gets frustrating that's why it gets depressing that's why suicide is the number one cause of death so to speak on the planet it's very frustrating when you keep projecting something and you don't see that you're doing it you you think that it's the world's doing it to you and really you're doing it to the world and to yourself this movie is is very good at showing the dynamics of that you could see all the buildings getting rearranged the characters those little needles going in to the forehead is symbol of new memories and it reminds me of another movie that we have called the island where they're mixing and matching memories and that there's a lot of great movies that are really showing the dynamics of what what the ego is doing but they could all be summarized in projection that God doesn't project projection is is described by Jesus is a way of getting rid of something that you do not want by seeing it as outside and actually Jesus says that's how you keep it you don't get rid of it the ego tells you blast them get it off your chest tell them what you really feel give it to them and then you do and you go temper and then you feel guilty why did I have to say that I could have handled that in a much more tactful way you know then all the guilt starts of why did I do that I could have I could have not said that I could have not done that I I could have if I was angry I should have taken the time out like children do and and not why did I get to the response so quickly and react in that email and just tell them off and hit send I could have just hit it draft and looked at it for five minutes and let the charge go without actually hitting the send button but this the projection works it just that's just the dynamic of the mind and the ego saying get rid of it but it we never get rid of it by seeing it as if it's not us as if it's outside of us that's where scapegoat scapegoating comes in that's where blaming comes in finger pointing is is leaving the causes outside and and wanting evidence to prove that we're right about it being external so forgiveness turns that completely around and then you can start practicing with every event you go to every scene in the movie and start practicing with this mind training that you're just bringing you're just giving meaning to whatever you perceive and that you don't need to do that anymore the world and you will be much better off if you don't try to read meaning into it in fact Jesus kind of gives the hint how important it is in the workbook when he says when you let the world be a clean slate you take away all the judgments and meaning that you put on the world then you make space for the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit perspective of the world which is holistic it's all everything's working together for the good it's it's this I this feeling of that all things be exactly as they are because they're in a state of divine order when you don't arrange it order it give meaning to it and and try to make it be a certain way we know that works the same way in relationships if you have a relationship and you keep trying to change the other person to be a certain way to sometimes people get married and they think well this is not a perfect match but I can do I can work on just give me enough years give me enough decades and I can make this work out that's not a good thing because you're gonna get more and more frustrated of starting to see that you can't change other people and I would say beyond that you know the personality self that you actually believe you are we have all this self-help books and all these programs and all these things you can do that that even gets stressful trying to become a fully functioning person doing all the self-help books I mean when does it end and and when is enough enough and how good is good enough and so it happens with with diet and body image and and fitness and intelligence and going to all these in services and getting more education and more and more and more and more it gets to be like a hamster on a wheel where it's it's very very stressful yeah and manifesting because a lot of times we've grown up in an in an age where there's a lot of talk about manifesting and manifesting is talked about in in a positive light did anybody ever see the secret read the book or everything it's a hugely popular thing it's almost like like this is what you can create your own reality and by golly you should you should have a happy joyful abundant life and make it the way you want it to be and it just doesn't quite go all the way I always many years ago when the secret came out I would go around and everybody wanted to talk about the secret because it just came out and it was so popular and I would say well manifesting does have one good aspect to it because it's starting to bring into awareness the power of the mind and that's always helpful it's very empowering to start to begin to have witnesses in the world whether it's Sai Baba manifesting jewelry and bracelets or you know Wayne Dyer and and Rob Das kind of got into that a bit or it's manifesting relationships I I actually think I went to Michigan one time and I was doing a gathering probably about 20 almost 20 years ago and I was talking about the course and then this woman came in and everyone said oh she's here she's here it's the manifesting lady and so she was just happy happy and then she said to announce to the whole group I'm they call me the manifesting lady that's my nickname I can manifest anything cars houses relationships for people I can manifest anything in this and this and she went on and so during the break we took a break and had some tea and and I said why don't you when we come back from the break you share the full extent of all the manifesting miracles you've had for everybody because I I knew that that would be a very powerful thing and pointing to the power of the mind and then I said I'll take it from there well we'll go beyond the manifesting but you I want everybody just to have a witness of how powerful the mind is how powerful thought is and in terms of thought and form and she did and then after that I kind of took it to the point well what if you went through this phase for some days months years even which she had done for years and you sensed there was something more being able to make anything you want you got a good fill of that where you could really manifest and manifest and manifest and and then you started to realize that there actually was something more that you really wanted besides manifesting and I called that eternal life or peace of mind lasting love peace happiness and joy that it doesn't fluctuate anymore and that that in order to go to that next level you would have to start to realize that everything that you manifest it was still part of the past it was still as if you were using your mind like these dark ones do to to manipulate the images to bring what you thought were better and better scenarios and better and better images and then you start to realize maybe I don't even know what better is because I've never found eternal life or peace with all this manipulating of the images so we took it very very deep there to see that it's it's it's okay anything that strengthens your awareness of how powerful your mind is is good but it's not the end and the magic of manifesting is just that it's more of an introductory phase and when you get into a course of miracles he's got his stages of development of trust he even has one of his early stages I think it's number two he says things will seem as if they are being taken away from you not added on to you not met and you're not manifesting more it's actually taken away and he said if nothing's really getting taken away from you it's just that you're starting to devalue the appearances and the images of the world because you know that it's you're after love you're after an experience of divine love you had a question I had a question when you say manifesting is that miscreating or does fear have to be in there because I know when they talk about manifesting they will use the word creating but it's not really yeah yeah yes yes that all manifesting is in the realm of miscreation and that's why it never brings eternal happiness you know it may the ego may go a new diamond rank who a new car who a soulmate I got my soul I really got the big one there and a soulmate until the soulmate this until they disagree that was a trial I'm gonna get the real soul man there's always there's always try again try again but it's all within the realm of miscreation and that's why these kind of movies are really good because this one goes all the way from the darkness all these people at the table that you that were poor and then they were all sudden time stopped and then they were rich that's not a real change that's like that's the egoic change and it goes fluctuates from pleasure and pain from poor and rich but they have no awareness with that change it's just a change in form they have no awareness that they're stuck and they're in fact in the dark city and they're trapped and and so that's it's like that serves no value at all we're like we're at the main character he's all like wake up wake up there's something that's like a value there happening and he's seeing like he's going beyond those like beyond the temporal changes he's going deeper into that like what is going on what is what is being manifested really like in the mind so he's getting in touch so yeah that's a tell-tale sign of miscreation that positive negative good bad even the rights and wrongs of morality you know you hear all these morality arguments you know this is this is good you're pleasing God you're in God's eyes you're pleasing oh that's a sin against God it's it's terrible you'll burn in hell you're putting all the moral arguments even ethical things ethically good ethically bad if it's all miscreation then you start even if you get a hint that it's all part of miscreation then you say wow then there's a whole different shift that has to take place and I need to be open to whatever that is and I would say that's the miracle of of being shown that it's all false and every image of this cosmos is part of the past that Jesus says at one point history would not exist if you didn't keep making the same mistake in the present it's one of the most amazing quotes history would not exist if you didn't keep making the same mistake in the present then the mind gets real curious about the power of now it gets curious about the present moment like well there's something really important happening if I keep repeating like Groundhog Day you know Bill Murray where he keeps going around playing the same day over and and learning from some of the nuances so he seems to shift just like you were talking about he seems to he steps in the puddle day after day after day after day until one day his leg his foot is over the puddle and he catches it and he kind of moves it over the puddle and he happily hops over the puddle seems like a big breakthrough no you know he's still he's still depressed he's still looking for loves with with Rita he's he's still at some points he gets so depressed he tries to kill himself electrocute himself for himself in front of a bus over a cliff you know he tries to do all these things like Groundhog Day is a huge it's a very important movie for us if we're waking up the Truman's show is another one you know he's he goes through all this and finally has to come to the exit door and then the ego doesn't want him to he says no you're the star it's like you in course terms you're the hero of the dream you're the star of the show I need you to keep playing this part and and keep caught up in this whole crazy mess in order to perpetuate itself in order for the ego to exist it needs to keep using the power of the mind for miscreation and and keep the mind from waking up to true spiritual creation which we could call the vision of Christ or the revelations the great race you get to a point where in the script that you decided in the script that you're going to manifest manifest to show yourself to the power of the mind so it seems like it's just a kind of a robotic kind of thing that you're going through as opposed to it's being really creative because creation happened in the past creation what we made yes I stuck stuck in the past believing the past is real Jesus tells us that this world was over long ago that and Jesus has accepted the correction through the resurrection he says when I when I awoke you were with me so those are helpful things here too not like somehow we got to really do something significant to get ourselves out no it's it's already happened if the world is over we're just reviewing the past as if it's still happening reviewing what's already long over and gone it's been over and gone long ago and and we have a memory problem we keep pulling the past into the present and covering over our magnificent spectacular power of now a present moment with all these old thoughts there's some sick attraction some belief that the guilt is still there that the pain is still there that the fear is still there and it's not so yeah I think when we go through some of these clips all we're going to be doing is looking at this very same thing from different angles reinforcing to our mind that it's over and and it was interesting I had we had lunch with Judy sketch Sundari and and Nikita and I and Judy and wit and wit was so excited because he told us during the lunch that he visited a friend a Swedish man who who loved the course of miracles and passed away but he he had the Swedish version of the course he would like carried around with him but he went into what seemed to be Alzheimer's and he he kept forgetting forgetting the world more and more and clinging to his Swedish course of miracles book and then he could hardly string together sentences anymore he could hardly put birds together his mind he started to forget so much but he hold hold on to this course of miracles books we discourse the miracles book and he could string a few words together he would hold the book and they would say what's that he'd go voice of God voice of God imagine if you can't string a sentence together but you can you can string three words together and go voice of God voice of God voice of God almost childlike you know when children just start off with just with a few words and then his wife who could see him regressing back into this state of forgetfulness where he was forgetting the world she bought him a big sandbox and so he was quite up in years and she was to and they would go and they would play in the sand and they would make little things in the sand and one of the things he would make he would go city of God city of God he could string together city of God and voice of God but he couldn't string together a sentence so what couldn't even have a conversation with him and what was gone how fascinating I think this is getting closer to the real world to the happy dream and I had the same thing with my grandmother Lillian who she could sing old hymns and she could talk the 23rd Psalm from the Bible Bible the Lord is my shepherd I shall not want she could say that verbatim and she wouldn't know who she had lunch with her memory was going so fast that she couldn't remember that and I remember going in there one time and I can see how happy she was and I decided I would just talk to the whole staff that was working with her in the nursing home and I got together in a meeting room and I said could you do me a favor I said don't orient her ever back into time and space don't tell her her name don't tell her her she's Lillian health my sir don't tell her it's this dear part nursing home in Cincinnati Ohio I said would you just do me one favor this is the whole staff there don't don't orient her back to time and space and they said well we wouldn't think of it she is our inspiration for being here and so there she is already drawn for the reflections of the whole staff they wouldn't think of of orient here back to time and space because they could feel the innocence and the joy of her being there letting go of the world in joy you know not dementia you know that's just a diagnosis of the medical model of if you see it from an upside down perspective where all these so-called human skills and abilities are important then dementia is like loss and even family members that perceive it as loss oh my god they come out all shaken they didn't even recognize me oh I can't believe it you know like it's their own identity that they're afraid is getting lost because a loved one can't recall those memories it's their own fear the person usually with dementia says in a good state of mind and the family is freaked out because they feel like they don't recognize me anymore you know it's all backwards so so what's next man about time yeah this is a clip that John Cleese this is this is John Cleese and now he's this is the kind of professor we needed in college or or a teacher in high school the professor of the spirit because all of our professors in high school and college we're having us learn all these meaningless facts from the past and John Cleese some of you know from from Monty Python you know he's gonna he's gonna be our professor of the spirit so let's let's roll with it that's like a lead in clip and then there's another clip where basically they they do their journals of all these different things that are coming up in consciousness and when all of this comes up basically he's gonna say I want you to share your journals now which is kind of like our I'm always talking about no private thoughts and no private minds and no people please he wants them all to share it and Ben Affleck the young Ben Affleck is like well I'm not comfortable sharing my journal and he's just very direct with him like like I'm here I'm not an anesthetist and I'm here to help you with with the healing and in other words saying you have to share we have to be able to let it up we have to let the darkness up in our mind we can't keep repressed and denied if we expect to actually authentically heal so he's very direct about that and then at some point the Ben Affleck will will say well he's only had two years of junior college and everything and he tells the teacher John please I think education can only take you so far and John please goes quite right it can but ego as he puts on the blackboard can only take you so far it will not get you anywhere it may feed you and close you but it will lead you cold and lone and and he takes you all the way in and these just these clips that we pull from that movie to that you have to know who you are you have to know your original self you know which is pointing back to the spirit because the spirit created us perfect in this whole construct oh here's here we go it's more people coming it's the spirit is really taking a step by step to just help loosen the mind from all of these thoughts and all of these false identities and all of these self concepts that are so protected and it's so the ego is so clever that even if you get on the journey the ego will turn you then into a spiritual seeker as long as you can hold on to the identity of being a spiritual seeker and not a finder or a discoverer or an experiencer and and the ego it says in the course the ego enjoys studying itself so then it's almost like becoming an identity of a spiritual student or you could say a spiritual teacher they call it spiritual ego where the teacher you know gets so caught up into the teaching and students and still doesn't have the breakthrough experience of of the love and the oneness that's in there it's all hung up on that okay well any more questions yes so I've been studying the course for like a year and a half the law if what advice would be for you for me I started my career like five years ago and I feel like I had so much ego like identity like I'm a hair color specialist I'm I'm an independent woman all this and like all the sudden it's like a year and a half I'm studying the course I'm like how come I don't have any clients now why is everything just like stripping away from me and I'm like forgetting everything all the sudden I'm like is this normal for people who are studying the course and like what would be your best advice to just like keep going especially for like you know a younger woman like me you know I'm a new mom I have a baby that's let's see he's almost seven months and a new spouse as well and it's all just like how do I keep going without like wanting to give up it's like I have like suicidal thoughts but I know like that's not gonna work because I'm just gonna have a different reality so yeah but there's a part of the course where it says from this point on you will not go on alone mighty companions go with you so in other words you know as you described your earlier life and where you just studying and opening and achieving and it's part of like an empowerment as a as a person as a young woman empowering which to the world is kudos you know that's a good step instead of being a dependent one dependent on the family and dependent on the government and whatever you're you're advancing in the world's terms and then you start to say the course and it's like oh this this is like a game going on here like I'm caught up in the game here and I thought all along I was progressing but now I'm getting the sense that that's that's not what the real progression is I often say too that that this world's backwards and upside down so so the more successful you are in the world's terms you're twice removed from reality it's like moving away from from eternal life instead of trying to move toward it so when people go through 12 steps or addictions or they have these suicidal thoughts and everything and they've dropped to their knees where they just go this getting really intense Jesus or God Spirit is getting super intense what am I going to do here that's when you open up and you start to realize that you will not go on alone you will have contacts you will find the books you need you will meet the people you need I've been at this for like 30 years with the course in 25 of its quarter of a century has been just moving around the planet and so every week I get people writing to me with what you're sharing they'll say like my friend Ricky you know she was in Nashville hold up she was a rock star she'd been a rock star and successful not emotionally but to the world you know successful and then she she's in a motel with the course book and her dog keeps reading and and things start to fall away the more she reads the course the more she prays calls on help and the more it's just her and her dog she's she's like she starts writing to me I can't even get waitressing gig I could always sing at some of these places because she's got such an amazing voice and do waitressing but it's like the doors are like going like this now what is happening it's like the doors aren't opening the doors are are closing I had another friend Donna McCarrie the amazing voice to like a Joan Baez kind of voice and she got into the course and she used to be able to go and do you know gigs all over the place in bars and sing sing sing and then she started to go to Nashville she said oh I got in touch with Amy Grant's publishing company and she's like thinking over here my career is ready to take off as a singer because she's got the talent and she's got the drive and everything and then boom here comes the door start closing like what is going on this is not the way I thought dreams come true and all those fantasies you know those fairy tales what's going on like with Ricky she just wrote an email to me and she just said what is going on here she said there is some kind of a transformation or something that that I need to know about and what am I going to do and I said well how's your situation she said I've got some guitars like I want to sell some guitars I want to visit my family and if it's possible I would like to go and come out and just join with you because I'm getting into so so the good thing to know is I mean I just told this the other night too because I had I get these calls and these things there's actually a young man is 23 from Portugal and he's been following this the course in the teachings and he's going into these mystical experiences but coming back into very painful experiences in the body and losing all five senses all five senses are like blowing out of his life he's just like please just tell me love's not abandoning me you know it was the same kind of thing it's if it's more an extreme example and then yeah I talked with him and and oh that was probably four or five days ago but there are steps coming in now where where he is going to come over and and come into a context where he'll be surrounded by people who have gone through down through the keyhole with this and so instead of having those reflections of what are you doing with your life and you know the doubt thoughts it's it's more opening you know in a kind of a quick way to okay I need support here spirits because how is this going to go I have I have a child a seven month child you know oftentimes the ego will say well you know your circumstances aren't good for spiritual awakening but the circumstances it's not a matter of circumstances it's about when the mind is really ready to start to go through this awakening this empowerment in the mind and then it shows up even these movie clips now we we're putting a lot of really deep teachings like this like what I'm doing right now on a website an online website called mwge at movie watchers guide to enlightenment mwge.org and and there's even like emotional indexes in there when you are going through specific emotions you can zoom in to those emotions and it recommends movies to help carry you beyond those emotions to kind of lift you out with the spirits help so there's really it's an enormous amount of tools and resources available but the most important thing is is the faith to say well I I've just drawn the witness of the course into my life and this witness is part of my awakening and and my receiving the symbols that I need to go on just like if you had been in university and you need certain symbols to go through and to graduate through that this is like a more of a spiritual awakening curriculum that's there but you're not alone there's just an enormous amount of help and will all this come rushing to you as you acknowledge it well I think like I was saying with these tools I think it's the celestial speed up or when I come together with people and we join very very deeply the doubts and the reservations have to be allowed to surface there has to be just a safe context for that to come up almost like if you had like a spiritual psychotherapist or some or some kind of a guide or prophet or seer or mystic in your life and a lot of people that I know have gone and they've received amazing readings just at the point where they're going whoa what's happening one of them was even Judy scutch she just was telling me that she got to a point you know in her life where she felt kind of like she was coming closer to completion with everything and yet there was something where this reading came in and said there's a lawsuit coming so she knew about the lawsuit involving of course the miracles before it it came through a reading but sometimes you know it can make all the difference if if that guidance comes through in a timely way it's like Jesus saying Holy Spirit will go before you making straight your path and leaving no stones to trip on no obstacles to bar the way if you keep pace with spirit in terms of your willingness and openness and you receive the information that you need to help calm the mind during this big transition and it's like the world's upside down from the ego so imagine the whole world tilting and going right side up you know that to the ego that's a very tumultuous turn because it's so invested in everything being upside down it doesn't want right side up it doesn't want everything to go to love and light it wants to keep it in fear and guilt so I my advice always is just avail yourself of all the support I was just in Southern California and we were there in this young group of people invited us up on the top of the mountain and people started showing up and came and I mentioned the other night one woman came and she just been jilted her fiance had just left her two weeks before the wedding and she was mostly but by the end of the weekend she was like mother willow grandma with oh she was like the wise if he does contact me I would love to share these insights that I've gained you know all sense of abandonment all sense of grief all the stuff you know in one weekend I popped because she was so open to avail herself of all the support that was there oh she soaked it in she soaked it in really good she was quite stable and and confident actually and open after the weekend because she was so willing to accept the support and embrace it and move on and I think that's the key that's the key okay let's use Ira Ira and Abby because that's that relates to these last two questions it's a movie called Ira and Abby and and here are two people in the movie Ira's just been in therapy for 12 years and and doing like with psychoanalysis where you just keep going over in fact the therapist can't stand to hear another word out of out of Ira that he's so frustrated at he's basically he's let Ira go and said listen this isn't helping you it isn't helping me it isn't helping any of us and then he's going to go into like a fitness center where Abby works and then they actually spend the day talking and then this scene is going to come after they have spent pretty much the day talking and sharing from the heart and this is a great scene because well this will trigger a lot of things but it will it will we'll be able to go at the celestial speed up from this answer to that question how to fasten it like like the way to speed it up this is it yeah and it's an amazing movie they do get married and it everything in this movie is such a speed up with relationships all the things that people seem to take years decades lifetimes to go through it's all in there and then you have a therapist there's a number of therapists that are involved and the movie ends pretty much with all the therapists all sitting around because it's just so spectacular they just break through all the relationship issues really if you just thought of yourself the only reason you're here is to learn to forgive and to make it through these relationship lessons and if you could have the crash course if you could have it all compacted instead of having to string it out over long long long periods of time wouldn't that be great but we did show this movie and I think I showed it in Mexico recently and there was a bunch of couples in the room where I was and they were just fooling and all these married couples married for 20 30 40 years just oh oh my oh my god you know because it's just it's that speed up and she was just very very direct and intuitive you know he was very intuitive to read her completely about what her life was all about and then she just came right in with you want to get married because he was so intuitive and she wanted something like that and and then all the temptations to blame all the temptations with X's she had two ex-husbands in the movie and and when they enter into the picture you know it brings up his insecurities but he's got to move through all of that and she's even spending time with one of the exes just out of love to heal him there's even a scene on a subway where they're they've just got married I believe and they and they're on the subway and this man comes and he pulls out a gun and he's he wants money from the people on the subway and she gets up out of her chair as he said don't move you know I was saying just stay here stay here she goes up and she just is so direct and open with the man and she's just right seeing his call for love that's he's just in fear and she just goes right to him and says how much money do you need and he comes up with a number and she goes around to everyone in the subway to get the money comes back to him and says I think we've got it is this gonna be enough and he's like well actually that's more than I need actually honestly the guy with the gun and she's just in her miracle working functions well you mean well Iris just terrified oh my god I've just married a woman who walks right up to somebody with a gun without fear and she's just the love is just pouring through her so it's such a healing movie but it just gives you a little glimpse about hmm what would my life be like if I could be that open and direct with everyone in my life if I had the confidence to just say what I need to say like with you with your son David if you were so radiantly confident to be able to sit down and said I'm not going to string this out over seven ten years whatever what's going on you know the love is here with us now and we're going to sit down without fear and and come and let the love bring the resolution because it's an identity thing you know it's we're when we're clinging to an identity and we believe that there's something or someone outside of us that that we need to complete us like a lot of the fairy tales you know Cinderella and Prince charming and all those fairy tales we've had where there's something external that's going to complete us the more quickly we can get to the point of facing things in our own psyche in our own consciousness and coming to that circle of completion then everything and everyone around us is going to reflect that wholeness and completion and it's going to be easy it's going to be fun it'll be a joyful life I saw a bumper sticker years ago because even I was much younger I would see these bumper sticker life's a bitch and then you die and then I saw this bumper sticker one day went up my mind was waking up and it said life's a joy and then you ascend and I went oh my god that's my that's my philosophy of life on the bumper sticker so you know that's that's where this is all heading it's heading into openness full communication and then on into communion with the source where you're just being sourced every second every minute and you're living out of that joy and that love and therefore everything around you is just reflecting that in a very natural way like you just feel it like of course of course in the world right now it's not even kind of like a hundred monkey thing in a sense that I said earlier like Jesus completed his part completely so so that that has actually happened he's he reached the real world or the happy dream in which the whole thing reflected this perfection and so within time from the human perspective it's like it can seem like a hundred monkey thing like if enough of enough humans do this but it's actually it's it's even simpler than that it just it just takes doing your part completely okay so a way to approach because there's been a lot of publicity you know in recent months especially about the Syrian war and so forth and prayer vigils that are being held and so forth is that an appropriate direction to take having prayer vigils as such for peace or is it just as effective or more effective is simply concentrate on our own peaceful state of mind and our own each individual as we look around you see individual by individual yeah if you I remember in the early years when I was going through a lot of things and held those questions I remember was Jesus speaking to me like a broken record it was he was always saying it's your lesson it's your lesson it's your lesson it's like a broker your lesson your lesson your lesson I'd be like but but but but but but you know your lesson your lesson so there are mystics for example like Joel Goldsmith who was called upon when they had like a big I think it was a big railway strike things that seem to be even societal we're not just talking about pranks for somebody who seems to have symptoms for their health and well-being but societal things world events and so forth the key is is starting to realize the faster you can realize this one thing the faster it's it's happening and that is that it's a perceptual problem so so it's tempting to look out and to see well this is happening in Syria or this is happening in Ethiopia and this is happening over there in China and to see this kind of big global thing when actually it's it's a perception that there are problems that that are sore spots problems in the world problem areas and oftentimes people will put a lot of effort into like world events and changing things on that those kind of scales and yet for their own psyche they don't put the the effort in or within their own relationships their own family so if you can start to realize that it's a perceptual problem in other words what does that even mean well perception as i was sharing earlier projection makes perception so this entire world this entire cosmos is a hallucination so we've got some major schizophrenia uh going on here not a few people thousands of people locked up in psychiatric institute we're talking the human condition is a schizophrenic condition we are we are hearing multiple voices there's seven billion multiple voices going on not just like Sibyl a few different personalities we've got seven billion personalities going on with this multiple personality disorder we've had a psychotic break from reality we've got psychosis going on have a grand scale we've got schizophrenia going on and when you start to bring it back to consciousness you go whoa it's the problem is in consciousness it's not specific it's not world poverty it's not war as we would see it that's why there's no political solution i know a lot of times i was in Sadari's house it was it a couple days ago and and someone was bringing up the elections this is an election year in politics and so forth and in the span of 10 minutes we handled all of politics and sexuality and nutrition in 10 minutes how can you handle those my god those are three big topics a lot of guilt and shame except through seeing that it's a perceptual problem and that's key like if you went to any kind of 12-step program anybody who's done 12 steps or even knows of the 12-step programs knows that if you're in a state of denial about the problem the drinking the cocaine the the food the sex whatever if you're in denial about the problem you're not even close to healing you know i've got no problem no problem oh i drink but i have a problem i drink a lot but that's not a problem or whatever it's it's hi my name is so-and-so and i'm an alcoholic why do they even start off with going around the room with hands going up and an admission my name is so-and-so i'm an alcoholic so i say for course of miracle students they need to do that they should do that with every course meeting hi my name is so-and-so and i have a perceptual problem they should they really should because how are also you going to begin think about it people show up at the course meetings and they're still like oh i've got relationship problems i've got some financial problems i'm upset at the way the environment's going you know it's got all these projections of all these problems you know oh i have an allergy problem oh i i have a blood sugar level problem oh i have an impotence problem oh i have you know oh yada yada yada no no no no you don't it's a perceptual problem you're seeing something that doesn't even exist that's a hallucination start there wake up in the morning if you open your eyes and the in your ceilings there that's a problem that's a problem what's your problem there's a ceiling i still see a ceiling okay now now we're getting somewhere why because i have a perceptual problem i i'm i'm hallucinating i'm seeing something that isn't even there that god didn't even create you know i'm just i'm seeing something that's so twisted and distorted and and then i'm i'm also seeing all these specific problems when really there aren't specific problems that's another trick to make all these thousands and thousands and tens of thousands of problems when really there's only one problem and that problem's already been solved uh you know so that's that's where it's a psych psychological it's a perceptual problem if the problem's already been solved and you're still experiencing many problems every day then that's that's a serious condition um not in reality but it's something that has to be addressed in the mind so that's what i would say i mean i have a friend jimmy twyman and he was just doing the prayers over there and he worked with the course for years but he started doing a course in miracles because he he slipped away from his practice with the course that's why he did a course in miracles why did he sing all those lessons because he he he drifted away from his practice you know he made movies moses code and you know just he did a number of things in some community experiments and this and this but but we're the course is a is a very important system of clearing your mind in a systematic way and you have to apply it you have to practice the lessons for it to work you know if you put it on the shelf for a few years it's you know then you're you have arrested development it's an arrested awakening if you kind of put your practice aside so he did that to get back into his practice and i would say that yeah that's the most important thing it's not so much where you go or what you do or trying to draw attention to it i even had people said you know david we could really help save the planet if we could just get a copy of the course in the pope's hands and and i'm like what what you're talking about you know they said well one guy said i was close i got really close i was only like seven feet away from the pope and i had the book in my hand to give it to him and then he was assassinated this was pope john paul he was shot i've got seven feet away from him i think and then another one said i snuck it in the Vatican it's it's in the Vatican library well it's like well that's not gonna do any good of course book in the Vatican library but there's a lot of books in the Vatican library you know how about your own perception doing the lessons you know people get into all kinds of these missions you know and it's not bad and we don't have to get into those missions we're not trying to save the world do you have our clip because this is funny this i completely a hundred percent related to that woman and and it it brought up for me when i felt like my question that i brought here to um i i feel like the entirety of my existence is is a hunger in a way for where i'm next joining and um do you know i'll go in a party i'll scan the room for the man or i'll sit there in meditation this morning thinking oh my gosh who can i join with on my birthday who can i there's this um and it's very it's funny it's not even you know i i've been married till death do us part the whole thing i mean it's not like i'm looking for that i like i said that the other and i've been married and then da da da you said she puts a da da da after whatever it was because it's almost like you're searching for something and it's on to the next it's constant it's constant in my and it feels bigger than just ego it feels like part of my functioning and it feels you know on one level it's just separation itself and but on another level there's something there's something that's the flow and purpose of my life in it and there was a moment at your group the other night where uh some a guy i know was sitting next to me touched my hand and through the energy of it it felt uh it's someone who is in into the modality of being forgiving where we can feel the joy that they get in the giving and the and it's so big for me right now the just the energetic feeling and what i felt was complete peace i mean there i was listening to you and it was like complete lack of lack just like total total satisfaction at feeling this an energetic connection of forgiving and um there was something about her hunger that that felt like the same almost constant intensity in my beingness on every level all the time and i wondered if you could you know i don't have much clarity on that but it's so palpable in the matrix of my own energy front that it's in a funny way yes well the key to that like it's almost like there's something that's inside you just wants to expand and just ready to burst open in inclusiveness and helpfulness and vastness and everything and really the key to it is is loosening from all associations all past associations which would be loosening from all investment in the past complete loosening almost like a like when an artist comes and gets a fresh canvas you know it's got all the palette of colors you you really really need that blank slate you need to be able to come to a fresh new opportunity with every moment and so that's how we become truly helpful and truly able to be used by spirit is when we loosen from the past and that means let go of of all false past associations around everything around the body around security around thinking that my past learning has taught me enough at least to know how to survive that's one of the the biggest blocks to spiritual awakening is the mind is so convinced that it's learned how to survive on planet earth through working through saving through spending through intelligence you know for me i had 10 years of university and so i learned all these skills and abilities and i got degrees and all the typical things you know that people go through a lot of education and a lot of skill development for so that you can navigate time and space in a in a helpful way and survive so survive as long as survival is even in there from the past learning that that survival instinct they call it which is still ego it's all ego it's all tied into the body all of that has to go and the ego will start to scream if you start to let go of some of it like oh you're going to be dependent now you're going to be you're going to be dependent on other people and you're going to be when i was going through this dismantling the ego was like you're going to end up like a bag lady you're going to end up homeless you know 10 years of university and you're going to be a good for nothing out on the streets bum and and then of course i even had some of those reflections from my biological father when he would get upset at i was letting go of everything it'd be no good dirty rotten bum get a job you know i this is what it says that was just doubt thoughts in my own mind about trusting spirit you know like mother teresa kind of thing like st francis you know we've had some pretty good symbols throughout throughout history that have just said okay i'm going to trust i'm going to god and i trust that god will provide and they put it right into action but this isn't even a personal thing it's not like it's oh it was great like st francis had the rays of god shining on him and mother teresa had the rays of god and then the rest of the billions trillions not so they've got a struggle to live the ones that have like a couple had like the truman show where the rain just comes right down on him you know like the divine provenance no it's actually a divine law that you're to be happy and to wake up and that everything's to be provided without your effort in this awakening like to look at the lilies of the field they neither spin or toil and and even salomon is not clothed as such as these lilies and then in the course you know once you have accepted his plan is the one function you would fulfill there will be nothing else the holy spirit will not arrange for you without your effort he will go before you making straight your path and leaving in your way no stones to trip on and no obstacles to bar your way nothing you need will be denied you not one seeming difficulty but will melt away before you reach it you need take that for nothing except the only purpose if you would fulfill so that purpose is so vibrant that's like a light that's in your heart it's so vibrant it's like getting back into the homing beacon back into the tractor beam with god just getting connected back into that light and then everything you need words to speak they're spoken for you some of you know that story of yoga nanda where he went and he had to speak to a whole crowd and he didn't even speak the language so he just stayed in prayer with his guru his inner guru and then the whole talk came out in the language that the people could hear that has to come from within you can't just call on your your smartphone rosetta stone and try to you know there's no way rosetta stone is going to give you a whole talk you need the divine guidance you need to be tuned into the source and when you are everything is taken care of everything is orchestrated so the best thing to do is when you start to feel that energy like you have a big mission like a huge mission your part is essential for the plan of atonement and you can feel it then the only interference comes in is is where there's beliefs and i personally need to take care of certain things it's almost like dividing your life up into okay i'll give this to you god and this and this and i take this and this and this and jesus says well actually it's your main problem is you still believe you need to run some aspects of your life on your own the more you can say you take it all you take it all then you can be used in the most glorious way but but it's past learning you know that that tells us that we have personally become empowered or that we purse we have personal skills personal abilities or that we're even in charge of the body it's like a forgetting you know i i felt like like the spirit was constantly telling me jesus is telling me you know you need to let go of thinking you're in charge you need because he said because i'm in charge you need to let go of trying to control people and situations and even your own body he said give that to me he said don't you try to make that body survive you know it will be perfectly useful as as long as it's necessary and then it will be just gently laid aside like taking off a sweater or a shirt you know when it's when it's done it'll be that easy you just take it off and it's done what did that mean well yeah i believed in a lot of things i believed in exercise i i was part of like you know i would go to a health club i played baseball i played basketball i played football i played tennis i you know i was very much into cardiovascular fitness and everything i had a lot of beliefs in there about exercising the body and keeping the body healthy and yeah then about 20 25 years ago he's just basically saying you need to give that to me you need to give that exercise belief to me so i did and i haven't had one thought about exercise i just don't think about exercise back then before i did that i had a lot of fear because i thought well if i don't exercise then the muscles will atrophy no they haven't i look at this it still can move i still go travel around the 41 44 countries and it still works fine the puppet works fine without exercise without thinking of it letting go of nutrition too that's the concept it's it was great when i kept traveling around and and i said okay when am i supposed to be a vegetarian or you want me to eat meat or what you know what exactly is going to be my diet he said well eat what is served eat what is served oh thank you that's a real easy one especially you go to all these countries and cultures and people love you and they take you in and they feed you the food that they've got just in this home too yeah Diane went out and she she bought all kinds of things drinks and vegetables sausage you know all kind of cheese and all kinds of things and and that's part of your hosting she has never hosted before in this way so this is a whole new experience but but that's different from having a whole set of past learning on what's how to eat healthy you know eat what's served doesn't sound like it fits into some kind of a box you know it it takes a lot a lot of flexibility that's actually letting go of a lot of nutrition stuff you know when you travel and it's the same with a number of things you know you you you just want to be as open and as open of a vessel as possible from the past and then the thing that you love the most which is here i am i'm on call to go anywhere do anything whatever serves the whole that's where you feel the swirl of energy that's what you love the most so just be able to whatever go somewhere hop on a plane do whatever's asked don't ask questions love everyone see the christ and everyone here's my house use it lord you know that's the that's where you keep the joy going you keep the vibrancy going it's only past learning that that ever blocks us okay welcome to our new people where you come right in if you we no no perfect it's perfect we just watched a few clips one dark city man about town do you have any any others coming or that was the movie of we've talked a lot about projection about about how we seem to come to this world and the world seems to be here before we get here but it's not we bring we bring the whole world with us jesus says when you came to this world you brought the whole world with you we we it's more than pick your parents we picked the black holes we picked the stars we picked the molecules the next one on the mix and match memories where he realizes that it's all like injected he doesn't even know like if he was really like a little boy or not for it like he he starts to get like not really confused but more like I'm confused that it's like something's like not real here so that's good it's it's starting to reverse this idea that we're a product of our environment you know there's there's whole schools of thought you're a product of your past you're a product of your DNA you know your genetic history you know people will sit down and say well I have I have a genetic disease that's been in my family for so many generations and it sometimes skips this and this and this that's all the belief that your past determines who you are or I was raised in such during the depression or during these experiences with Vietnam or I had these sexual experiences or my parents were like this as if our parents or our siblings or environments shape us no our mind our consciousness projected all of that so we have complete responsibility for the turnaround well and if you say you just let it go is that literally the case and you just think of this limited concept that you're holding onto and you just let it go or is there a process that you have to go through in order to let it go well my process was with the course where it became pretty clear the more I worked with the course it was like oh Jesus is calling me to be a miracle worker never thought of that never talked to my parents about oh I think I'll grow up to be a miracle worker what's the salary I just don't know what are the perks don't know it's all new or even in high school guidance counselors you know you have all these things to select from miracle workers not usually on most of the list you know just my SAT score do I qualify for a miracle worker can I can I get in there anything no so for me it was on the one hand I'm opening up to whatever this is working miracles and and being used by spirit and Christ for the good of the whole and this other concept is teacher of God you know what does that even mean to be a teacher of God we're teaching all the time it's by our attitude to learn to purify our heart and be a demonstration of love across the board with everyone everything at all times that's kind of the positive of where it's going and then what you find in order to go in that direction is you have to unlearn everything you have to unlearn everything all the programming all the conditioning it's very introspective I think I was very much like Gandhi I was like I was very shy but they're and both Gandhi and I both said you know well this shyness is like a curse it doesn't help you with dating it doesn't help you with social situations shyness is it seemed like a curse it actually was kind of a blessing because I was kind of pondering what's it all about what where is this all heading and and do I even want to get caught in the rat race that I have to extract myself from or is there some way to start to be shown what is the rat race before I get too enmeshed in it and so it was a process of praying and asking be show me leave the way and I think the only thing different about my process so to speak than most it's not really different at all but it's that after I read the course from starting in 1986 for about two and a half years for about eight hours a day I was saturating my mind with these teachings from Jesus that suddenly Jesus was speaking to me and so I had a direct connection with Jesus's voice go here go here do this stop that don't do that anymore you know I need to okay here this is you know it was like an ongoing dialogue ongoing commentary even when I would go to course groups I'd go here course teachers Jesus was commenting commenting instructing instructing instructing it was very very helpful in that sense because because it was a time saver we all know that if we could just tune into our intuitive voice that would be a huge time saver imagine that your intuitive voice which knows your good in any situation is just and they're telling you you know oh you need to do you need to call so and so you know what have I got to say I'll tell you when you call just you need to call that was like a part of a big speed up of basically listen follow listen follow getting into the the humbleness of that David how is the hearing different than the seeing that's a sense you know if you say you saw Jesus how is that different than hearing Jesus because of her you know like you see something you know um it's just another it's just part of the dream it's just part of the ego or something I don't know how is that different well I think the hearing it wasn't like an audible hearing but it was like an inner inner train of thought and knowingness with it like a strong sense of knowing but but the seeing the perceiving in the world um it's very much like Helen Shuckman she when sometimes when she would have a question she would like close her eyes or she would go in her mind and she would see it written like on a chalkboard or sometimes in a blazing set of lights she she would literally see the word like if she would go back and say this word doesn't seem right she would just see it and then she would make the correction so so that's the way it started to me before I was getting this stream of thought from Jesus I didn't have that at the beginning I was so open though to bumper stickers billboards I was literally seeing the signs and symbols around me a lot so I was like tuning in to those signs and symbols and I took that as is like instruction too like a song on the radio like I could just drive along and then pray and then seemingly just click the radio on and then it would start singing me the the instructions and the answers you know on the radio going to the library of course I used the course as kind of an oracle but then after a while I thought let's try this out in the libraries I just walk through the rows of books say okay here's my question stop reach over pull a book off the shelf open it up there oh it's like it's not just in the course it's it's all of perception can reach me the spirit can reach me through the symbols through dreams dream symbology that was another big one so to me there was I always thought of what I could perceive with my eyes or here with my ears as just symbols dream symbols and you know sometimes it's there's just such a strong witness sometimes I kind of did it like it was kind of seemed like a very much of a solo journey like just tuning into spirit and really saying leave me guide me show me some children have invisible friends I had invisible Jesus but right there with me that knowingness that care that nurturing very very helpful built my confidence then I would follow what he was saying to do and then it would be so joyful and I thought this is good I need that's why I need to follow I can't just listen and not do it I want to listen and follow because that's where that ignites like the joy that ignites the confidence so it wasn't so much a difference like that some people do have apparitions right yes so since travel I have seen people and and lights and Gary Reinhart talks about the lights and I've I'm I kind of I kind of taken a lot of comfort from that because it seems like there's something very much beyond and that whole like I could probably in this part of my life have a big just question mark on me like I don't know what all this is about so and I'm finding a lot of comfort in that sometimes I wonder well like when I see the lights they come it feels like a like I'm on the right track somehow or not it's a it's a validation or something and then I but I kind of wondered are those even you know what is what is that what is that about you know what is seeing the people about what is getting the message about I'm not gonna it doesn't doesn't look this person doesn't look like Jesus looks like different people yeah I think it's it's this thing that the spirit can reach us in so many ways and at the beginning I wasn't getting a direct sense of instruction so I was seeing in the signs and symbols but then I had to be ready so that when it's like the inner voice was activated that I was ready to follow it and go with it for example one of my friends she told me that she was trying to get in touch with her spiritual guidance and just like David Hawkins talked about kinesiology and and sometimes people have like pendulums and everything different things she was using like the pendulums she would ask the pendulum questions and it would move and yes and no and so she was like instead of seeing lights or people or in my case hearing a voice she was using this pendulum and she used it used it used it used it and then one time she came to one of my retreats and she was freaking out and I said what why are you so panicked and she said the pendulum is not moving anymore it's just it's staying straight her tried and true way of receiving guidance through the pendulum she said what is the meaning of this the thing is not it's just not moving at all I said yeah you're you're about to enter into another way and and that's the way it works even with relationships when when we need someone in our life when we can really teach and learn and grow from it they're there and when they disappear it's because we don't need them anymore it's always working together for the good you know like they say when when god closes the door he opens a window you know there's there's always more opportunities there's always new things coming in and it takes a lot of trust underneath there to like you said big question mark and okay here I am I'm watching I'm following the lights and that's the way it is for now and it's beautiful so you can think well this this has served me well and it will just continue to serve me as long as it serves and then if there's new things that come in then you know you can be open I know so many people are open to readings and to row and they just tell me as I travel around all the different ways that the spirit reaches them and it's like a symphony of support that I keep hearing yes I studied the course for three years I did took courses and then I meditated the course for two years in a row and then now so I'm ultimately trying to get to that higher self that's sort of the goal and um so I'm now taking another course I've been sort of called to take a course like it's sort of a Jungian psychology course and it's kind of talking about how you go from your persona which is just like your mask through the ego and which is the course is really great but of course it was great for that and then you go through the ego and then you go through your shadow and so I'm wondering if you could talk about so in order to get to your higher self you kind of have to I guess embrace your shadow or reveal your shadow or something because it a lot of it it has to do with your unconscious will your unconscious will drive you and and lead you until you be until you reveal it and become conscious conscious of it yes and then once you get to the higher self you're part of the collective unconscious or something the collective consciousness yeah what I'm saying but can you talk a little bit about the shadow because that's kind of where I'm at right now trying to I don't know what I'm supposed to do yeah the context of that that's interesting that's been part of the clips maybe we'll start with the one with meeting his uncle Carl okay because at this point he's still he's still wanting like like you were just asking about the shadow he's still not understanding about all these images and these memories they seem to be real external kind of events and memories and and he's just beginning to start to see that that that they aren't what he thought they were yeah that's part that this is part of a setup part of an unconscious setup to keep the mind trapped yeah so um because I'm also running down my dreams every night so when you write down your dreams you can you actually can remember more of your dreams and then you have more insight into what's going on yes yeah maybe we'll just try that clip with uncle Carl so it's just it's just one clue one thing in the world you know like you some of you saw the Truman show where you know you know his his dad from previous episode appears on the set and the the voice tries to explain it away or when the cirrus light comes down and lands in the street this theater light comes and lands in the street and then on the radio it says the plane begins shedding parts you know it the ego is always trying to keep you in the human perspective it doesn't want you to see from a transcendent perspective because if you start to transcend fear you're going to escape the ego you'll escape the guilt you go back into the state of heaven and the ego doesn't want you to escape from the guilt so that's what a lot of times when we start to take steps on the spiritual journey and we seem to have the naysayers that come to us and go what are you doing this spiritual journey is not practical how's that going to help you in the future you know it it's so bent on the future that it doesn't even say that the future is a construct the future you know the past is gone the future is but imagine Jesus says these concerned concerns are but defense is against present change of focus that at the future is a construct you know we're used to thinking when we studied psychology about defense mechanisms denial repression nobody told us in psychology class that the future was a defense against the present moment that the future was a defense against our reality that's getting into a whole new level of defenses and that's what he was just discovering was there was a scar on one of these photographs and memories and it wasn't on his arm and that's when he when these are all lies too all of the the light memories and all of the dark memories are part of a system of keeping the mind asleep because who says we can judge happy memories from sad memories you know we know how it feels but is there any reality to fear maybe when we were afraid it wasn't that the circumstances weren't frightening us and the people weren't frightening us maybe it's just we had fear within our heart and we were perceiving a fearful world maybe we have a fearful interpretation that we need to heal we don't have to redo the scene we don't have to redo anything we just have to start to realize as long as i have fear in my heart then that's tainting my perception it's darkening my perception there's a man who part of the northwest foundation for A Course in Miracles Paul Tuttle I don't know if any of you have heard of Paul Tuttle and the Raj material but I studied that years ago and there was one great scene where I think Paul was over in Hawaii I believe and and he strained his back he seemed to be carrying some heavy bags of groceries into the house and he strained his back and then he turned to Raj or Jesus and says can you help me out with this you know I've got this strain in my lower back and everything and and Raj said well you think that you have this strain and this tightness in your back because you carried in the heavy groceries but it's not that at all and and then Raj says actually you had a breached birth in this lifetime and because of this breached birth you still are holding grievances against the the people the nurse and the practitioners during this breached birth and that's where that pain is coming from so it totally oriented from some kind of an event that he thought was associating it with carrying the heavy groceries back to a grievance still in the mind around this breached birth when he was just an infant and then Raj says I will tell you something it never happened the birth never happened now that we're really he's rolling his back you know into true forgiveness you know the birth never happened this whole all these projected memories of time and space are part of a setup to keep the mind guilty projection of bodies projection of who did what to who projection of victimization all of that is part of this big trap this big linear net of time and space to keep the mind guilty so it won't wake up to its eternal reality so what does that show us it just shows us that we have the power of interpretation that we can learn to join with the Holy Spirit join with our intuition and see all of the memories from a new perspective from a higher perspective I traveled with a woman back in the early 1990s 1991 1992 and we were traveling going doing miracle gatherings down in Florida and one time we were driving along in the car and we picked up some flyers and I was looking through the flyers in the car and I said oh look there's an advertisement for a little miracle center and they have a course in miracles hypnotist that works at the thing I love it I mean I see this a course in miracles numerologist well that's gonna be interesting what about that a course in miracles hypnotist so I passed the flyer over to her and she says hmm I think I'm supposed to have an appointment with this course in miracles hypnotist so I said okay I'll drop you off and then come back later and pick you up I dropped her off he took her into hypnotic regression deep into her mind where she had these memories come back of her being sexually abused by her biological father so she had repressed all of these memories and this course in miracles hypnotist had brought them up but the strangest thing is when I saw her she said yeah I've been traveling with you David and I've been such in such a miracle minded state of mind that when the memories came up I was in this high state of mind I could watch the memories with no pain I could just see the scenes from this high perspective without she was she was healed it was almost like this seeing this hypnotherapist and traveling and doing all these gatherings with me we're just showing her oh there is a higher perspective where there's no interpretation of abuse of a perpetrator and a victim child from this higher perspective which just gave her this sense of like whoa I just I can see now that's the value of the miracle it just sees the false is false it doesn't see it from a from a distorted victimization perspective so then we were traveling around and she'd been in the convent she from a Catholic family she'd gone in the convent when she was 14 years old from like 14 to 22 22 23 years old in the convent to to become the bride of Christ you know the nuns take the vows and so forth and so she had all this kind of repressed stuff around the body and sexuality so we traveled around a little more and we heard from a friend oh there's a there's a course in miracles group that you should go to and she said whoa you know what what is it she they said yeah it's a course in miracles group at a nudist colony you see how the Holy Spirit knows how to crack a tough nut if you've been in the convent from 14 to 22 and you've got a lot of repressed things around sexuality there's nothing like the old course in miracles group at the nudist colony so i'm i didn't have any kind of charge on that or i'm not like a voyeur anything i say i'll drop you off it was the same thing with the hypnotist i'll drop you off and come back later to get you so so anyway i did a drop drop and i came back and she told me all about the experiences and it was very helpful for her she said well the course group that the people in the nudist colony wore clothes during the course group because they didn't want it to be too destructive of from reading the book so you know it's this and this and this later on we traveled out west to Sedona we were down the Luckets were doing a big course of miracles garden party there and so on and so forth and at the end um you let the Lucket and and jack they let everybody down to the creek beds these red creek beds in Sedona to to take people into the water to do baptisms of a lot of these course of miracle students and again i i felt i just was there with the swirl the whole thing i said she's i said i think you should go she's yeah so then she did that and then she joined another woman and they said let's go skinny dipping so you can see a lot of the things around nudity sexuality for somebody who's been in the convent the spirit uses whatever it takes there's nothing good or bad per se in form it's like what will unwind the mind what will loosen the repression what will loosen the denial loosen the guilt it's not about morality of the do's and don'ts and rights and wrongs it's about willingness to to see the whole world from a new perspective from a high-heeled perspective which is what mind training's for that's why we we practice the course so that shadow question that the shadow is is the unconscious mind where you know when when decisions are made and and accepted as true then they're pushed down into the unconscious mind they become beliefs fixed beliefs and until those get exposed then it's more like the the personality self is more like a robot acting out the shadow and that's what dreams Freud did have that right when Freud said dreams are wish fulfillment so if you still have a lot of unconscious guilt and pain and shame and fear then the character that you think is you on the surface of consciousness is just acting out those unconscious beliefs and therefore it becomes really important to get down there and get in touch with what's going on underneath I've I've drawn on some of the books like one of the books I have in there awakening through Course in Miracles I think there may be also in movie watchers guide I have a diagram of the mind where I kind of draw these concentric circles and Jesus gave me this is kind of what your mind looks like and underneath the perceptions are the emotions underneath the emotions are the thoughts underneath the thoughts are the beliefs and at the core is your desire your point of power your prayer where you can literally through the power of prayer transform your entire consciousness just through the power of your desire for God your desire for wholeness for God the spirit wholeness completion so it it helps too to kind of have a have a bit of a diagram so you can help me I was always very very graphic Christian. Have you ever had a gathering like pray with everyone? Yep we have we have had prayers yes meditation just to call upon the Holy Spirit you want to do that? Yeah okay we could we call upon the Holy Spirit to illuminate our minds illuminate our hearts we offer the hidden parts of our mind back to you Holy Spirit to shine them away we would no longer protect these beliefs and these thoughts from your healing light give us the strength to speak these thoughts to expose everything that we have kept pushed down and hidden let us do this with a sense of confidence and trust that you will guide us every step of the way we cannot fail in this healing God's plan for our healing cannot fail we must succeed in this healing because it is God's will that we experience this everlasting happiness eternal joy unending peace symbolically we hold hands remembering that we do not walk alone we walk side by side with our brothers and sisters use our sisters and brothers as reflections we may see we are never alone we have all the help in the universe with us anyone else who feels to share what the Spirit is telling you now to head to this prayer may we release all of our fears and all of our deafness and may we see the light and may we remember that we are all one with God we're so just here for support I was saying a couple places I've been here in California on this spontaneous trip that that to our prayers and through supporting each other that we're just in this is a lifelong relationship of walking back to God and that all of us are part of that and whatever one needs the other shows up to help so many ways to stay connected nowadays so many ways to communicate just to be open to the answer or support coming that you don't have to feel alone in this or and have to feel like it's a solitary journey it seemed to be in my life for for years and it felt very solitary like I was not in a sense with with Jesus it felt very strong like he was guiding me but but I find more and more now I just appreciate all the support that comes in so many ways and through people and friendships and relationships that are just there to help us and we can be trusting in that and let that come more and more into our our awareness so that's the way my life went from the solitary journey to more just with beloveds beloved people beloved angels all around all of us reminding each other and it's been beautiful through the travels or communities or all kinds of ways skype calls facebook calls you know just there's just all kinds of symbols of of it being there and nowadays people are like him can I get your phone number and I said yeah I just send my my phone over put it in this type of type your number in my address book and then yeah then we do talk we call each other and you know just support so we've got a little time is there any other areas or questions or curiosities or anything you'd like to raise up about like holy relationships we talk about that yeah the special relationships are all a reflection of of lack and need so they they're filled with so many expectations and sometimes demands and that doesn't feel natural demands and threats don't feel natural we've all gone through those kind of experiences and thought you know that it has to be a better way than that and then as we practice this inner work and we we learn to connect and we get into our our function and our shared purpose then we feel filled up from within you know or we feel like our cup runneth over we have so much to give and so much to share and then we start to see that that's what relationships are for is for that giving and that sharing and that extending and I found travel was a good mechanism for that to learn to trust the spirit on as I would travel and meet people just to trust that everything was being perfectly taken care of and the dividing lines between where I began and someone else began started to fade more and more and holy relationship is ultimately really becoming connected to source and seeing that connection reflected in everything and everyone very different from the programming about how we thought about relationships I was kind of raised with the Protestant work ethic and you know everybody has their own separate spaces and their own separate lives and goes their own separate ways and then this miraculous experience is melting that away it's turning to a melting pile of the mind where you start to feel relaxed and comfortable with wherever you are whoever you're with start feeling more from a holistic quantum perspective that everything everything and everyone is playing their part perfect and start to feel this thing of like wow it's all for me not not a personal me but it's all for my my mind awakening that's really that what the holiness is it's our very being how do you spend your day when you're not out of gathering just a little on there you know how do you start your day and end your day there's probably not any kind of grime or reason or pattern to it anymore it does say that in the Course too that how does the advanced teacher of God spend his day it says to the advanced teacher of God this this question is superfluous it's it's more like there's a a rhythm and a flow and it's instead of being like under personal control it's that there's a feeling that everything is involuntary everything that's happening is just part of it like an involuntary flow you're like just beholding I like that word beholding just when we just met with Judy Skutch and we had that wonderful four and a half hour lunch that all Nikita could hear was just behold just behold it was a wonderful feeling every time I've had lunch I've had like lunch with them about four times and and every time it's just it's just it's just a beautiful flow and yeah you weren't if you weren't saying much you were just like there just beholding the whole thing you looked like you had like a big smile on your face and you were very grateful it was fun to be a part of the experience and to know what a what an important function that you have you know to behold the world in this new way but with such a high function then it's more trusting that everything will just orchestrate to support that presence I had you talked about having like a seven-month-old child and I was on facebook one time and a woman wrote to me and she was saying I think she had like three young children and her husband was in an automobile accident and was completely paralyzed and completely dysfunctional she lost her her spouse he didn't die but he just became completely dysfunctional so in terms of being an active partner and then sharing working raising these three young children you know everything shifted so she went through depression and different things and she wrote to me and and she just asked for help and we joined and the call started off with her crying a lot and sharing a lot of these emotions that were still in there just the heaviness and the grief and the shock still of the whole thing but as the call went on we had never spoken we were speaking on facebook messenger and then it got lighter and lighter lighter where she started to say I just watch your videos all the time and I'm listening and and the little children's you know were of course listening along because she was there with her little children and they would say are you still playing hofmeister aren't you getting a little obsessed with this hofmeister but they were listening along very well to all of it and then when she would make a move or say something they would say I don't think that's what David would do he started like channeling David they would protest but then they would become little channels and the more she talked to me we talked for quite a while it went from grief and shock and to I've got the most wonderful life with these children because I'm making them a part of my life and my mind training and my waking up and they are stepping right in and they're not acting like children they're very angelic you know and so the whole conversation after she started off went got happier and happier and happier and then she was I asked her more about her life and everything and she's you know we talked about all kinds of things relationships and she wanted to maybe date and but she said if my husband had actually died I could be over with that and move on to dating but he's still you know he's he's living with his family now and they have to do 24 hour around the clock care and so he's not in the house but she couldn't date because he was still alive she died she said I so we went through that whole thing and then in subsequent conversations um she would say things like uh I would say well what kind of skills do you have the spirit can use your skills and this mighty function that you have and in awakening and she said well I originally from turkey but I lived in Germany so I speak fluent German I said oh I said maybe you could be over there if I go to Germany and do a uh conference or gathering you could be the translator well that would be nice go over there and oh that would feel really good I would feel purposeful and then um she got to the point where she started she had this mist she went in her her son wanted a dog so she went into the kennel this place and she met this dog that seemed to have eyes that were like primate eyes you know that were looking at her and she then she spring into a mystical experience with this dog and she was like oh my god I just was one with everything I threw this dog it's the last place I would have ever expected you're not meditating or in the lotus position just boom right there with the dog and she's telling me all that and then and then um the children would go over because she thought oh you know I want to I'm about being a teacher of God with three young children how that's going to work out it's not your typical thing well she her uh I think it was like a brother-in-law her husband's brother and his wife and children they loved having the kids over loved having the kids over and this and this and this conversation is continuing on where they she called one time and she said uh they want to adopt my kids and take them and integrate my kids as part of their family and at first her reaction was the mom reaction like you know my kids but then she started to go whoa what's happening is this part of the plan you see even something like children even young children can be can take in as part of configurations for them to feel loved and and have playmates and so on and so forth and some of you know the story even of Mary Baker Eddie who is the founder of Christian science that she had had a child a son and then she got into writing this book science and health with Peter the scriptures and she got so sick that the protected services took the child away from her and she ended up pouring decades into this it's like a precursor of A Course in Miracles it's one of the most amazing books on the planet science and health with Peter the scriptures there's no mind in matter there's no life truth intelligence in in matter and so the child was literally taken out of her life went with a foster home and moved out to Oklahoma and she didn't see her son until i think she was about close to around 80 years old where he came back with a group of men and tried to file a lawsuit against her saying she had lost her marbles and she was totally insane it came back as a lesson of releasing everything and trusting there are so many things all i'm saying is the mind is very powerful and as you give your life over and just say i want the holy instant i'm going to desire the holy instant like you pray in the prayer i call upon the holy instant i give to you my life as i know it i give to you everything my circumstances as i know it i know that i have a part to play in the plan of awakening and you must instruct me in that part i would but follow you shall lead once you get into the rhythm of that then that's why everything speeds up you know things start to to morph and reconfigure it's like shape-shifting going on all over the place and jesus does say that he says in the course if you will perform miracles if you will let me perform miracles through you i will arrange time and space that's something we didn't get when we were growing up at the dinner table that we could have a function of being a miracle worker and that jesus christ would rearrange time and space for us you know that just shows how holographic it is that also shows how how quantum it is if there's partners that were to meet along the way if there's mighty companions that were made along the way if there's collaborations and configurations that serve the whole they will be there for us without our effort it will just show up we don't have to personally try to figure it out figure it all out we don't have to personally try to oh i can't do it until i first figure it out though jesus says no you actually won't ever be able to figure the world out he tells us that and we say well just let me understand first as soon as i understand then i'll do it and he says no actually peace and understanding go together and cannot be found apart so peace comes when we relinquish our control and our investments in this world and we are sourced we are flowed through by by the spirit so to me it's it turns into quite an amazing adventure you know where the fears give way yeah i was traveling one time and this mother called me and she she said uh you're going to be coming close to where my town is can i meet you off the highway and she knew about where i was traveling i said yeah she said oh there's a pizza hut well just meet you there and so she met me we met for the first time i didn't know her at all we just met and sat down at the at the booth to sit there and she kind of got the drink and she just the pizza came she just kind of put her elbows on the table and leaned in close to look into my eyes and she said what are you experiencing right now and i said i said can you feel it where the whole universe the whole universe is with us here right now wow because there's it's that sense that there's nothing else we were talking about that in recent talks here about the quantum way of looking at things instead of Newtonian linear way but this quantum way where you you see that that everything is is connected and it's like what these are not receivers the eyes are not receivers they're projectors and the ears are not receivers they're projectors and but if you go into that state of mind then you can see that that everything and everyone is part of you and there's no boundaries and it's so vast and then you you don't feel located which is a great feeling to especially with travel that helps you get out of this sense of feeling located because it's all rolling up so fast and you know i love that enjoying all the encounters i think the toughest thing is just letting go of it of attachment you know letting go of attachments it's hard yeah it can seem that way but then there will come a threshold or a turning point where it's suddenly like in an instant just starts to dawn that it's that it's easier to let go and it's harder to hold hold on to but but the mind has to just come to that little tweak where it's like you know where it's just a like a convincing or an awareness that dawns i find myself cycle a lot attachment attachment attachment i need to let go attachment it's just very hard i have such hard time with it there is a prayer of the heart for for healing for love for joy and then the spirit is is responding and using all these symbols in amazing ways i'm so grateful so grateful for how it all works and just to to say to everybody you know life takes care the spirit is really got us you know so so even those things can seem to fall away we were just over at tsundara's energy it was i was up till two o'clock in the morning after the gathering ended sitting there talking and it's beautiful because a lot of things in her life she just goes deeper and deeper things are just shifting and fading away and falling away but she's just speaking it all and then the spirit's coming in with what's helpful what's next just in amazing ways even with her husband she thought they might be going different directions but she she just verbalized it like if we keep going on the way we're going it's like we're being pulled into two paths but we just need to talk we need to have a heart to heart talk about this and then he said yeah i really hear it and you know that's ultimately what we it's such a walk of trust but just to with our hopes with our with our dreams with our desires and with our callings and our guidance is to be able to verbalize that without fear of loss without fear of rejection knowing that it's it's all working for the good and that will be lifted up in in just amazing ways if we just have the faith and keep trusting