 What's up everybody? It's Eric Johnson from Airtate Throws Nation. I'm back here We go with another video on the inverted C I thankfully I don't hear that as much as I used to a few years ago But I had a client today who was with their coach and they were teaching it and I explained why it wasn't good And I'm about to do that in this video. Let's check it out Everyone it's Eric Johnson from Airtate Throws Nation and in this video We're gonna discuss is the inverted C or the C back. This is the updated version I did this video one of my first YouTube videos where I kind of wasn't used to the camera and I talked a lot softer And I think the information was good, but we've also evolved our system quite a bit I've involved the system tremendously so point is the system has gotten much better videos I think are 10 times better and one of the things we talked about was the inverted C We still hold by the inverted C position when you look at the best throwers in the world. They're all here So what that means is we're gonna see them all coming forward and we're gonna see the stack now What you see is that stack? I mean knee hip shoulder Boom, I'm on this angle, right? So as I throw and as I get that hip in front I'm releasing that discus out here or I'm releasing that shot foot again We have the head back some people teach Throw the head back now. I want to make it clear I've coached a handful of athletes that were taught that and it is a just a Mind-numbing pain in the ass as a coach to have to fix that. Here's let's get a couple things straight one the head back Position as a result of stretch reflex It's very similar to what you see with an Olympic lifter when they drive those hips and they shrug and there and they're Gonna be pulling up to catch the head smashes back that stretch reflex That's not a conscious head throw and in the throw It's the same thing. So the inverted C is not a throw the chest up Throw the shoulders back. It is a keep everything here push the knee and the hip into the throw So that I'm finishing in this position and as I throw I'm gonna get that Stretch reflex position the head so remember what appears to be a C is the heel the elevation of the hip the pushing of the Knee as it's rotating The delivery side past the block side getting the head Stretching as it's gonna pull and the ideal position is a little bit of an angle down So that we're creating a longer radius which increases time applied to the discus and speed and longer path all that good stuff And so what we see right at that point is that stretch reflex position? Which gives the appearance of an inverted C or a C back it is but we want to make it clear It's a position and a reaction to a dynamic position Not a chest up head back and I was coaching the athlete today who came in Coach politely, you know, I asked are you teaching this? I was like, yeah I wouldn't do that anymore and I explained why and here I'll give you the same explanation a quarterback Most people watching this probably like football too when you're a quarterback a quarterback has to create a throwing motion They come through the block arm, right even for a quarterback has to stop They come through and they come through a block now. How many quarterbacks you see in the NFL doing this? Those aren't quarterbacks you see in the NFL or in college football because they're not good enough to be at that level That's why you'll never see that very much the same general mechanics We have to come through the block pushing that knee and hip as it rotates creating this kind of position and Creating a stretch reflex response as we stretch and that gives the appearance of the C But it is not to be confused with an actual C so we maintain the stack and most of the time most throwers Should be conscious of coming forward as they do because that angle is Changing the angle set and the angles coming through and if they're a non reversing thrower They're still coming through and we'll pop up a few videos that explain what I'm talking about But you'll see so don't teach the inverted C. It's not correct I stand by that had a few people send me some Disagreements, but if you again if you look at it mechanically it is a mechanical position But it's something that you set up you create a position that creates a reaction You don't artificially create that position or you're losing speed and power So don't do that in your throw do me a favor Tell me what other videos you'd like to see down below and if you have comments or you'd like us We got a whole bunch of stuff we're playing but we want to hear from you to see what kind of Questions you have and what we can answer for you because we're gonna have a whole bunch of cool new stuff coming Lots of good stuff check out our website for free new videos. We got something new coming for there, too We had something old up for a while that's going away So again if you enjoyed this video like comment subscribe hit that subscribe button and thanks so much We'll see you on the next video