 I knew about John when I moved here in 1972, although I was busy with two little boys at that time. But he was the state rep for the third Hampshire district before he moved to the state Senate. So I took my job in the legislature in January of 1960. And then for the next 44 years served first two terms in the House of Representatives in Boston and then ran for the Senate. When he ran for Congress, an ad agency that he hired came up with a wonderful slogan for him. It was John Over, a workhorse, not a show horse. Transportation and housing and urban development were the one that I chaired. Whenever we were in the majority in those years, I would be the person who was driving all of the policy issues from the funding point of view and giving out all the earmarks that were being delivered in those days to all of the Democratic members, the senior Republican on the same subcommittee would give out monies to all of the Republican members. But I was the one that was, I had dealings all over the country with every one of the members of my party when we were in the majority. I think a lot of us in this area took pride in having someone like John Over, not someone like John Over, having John Over as our representative in Congress because he was a workhorse and not a show horse. I came home from Washington, D.C. in 2001 and I'd been home about six months when I read in the morning paper that he wanted, he had hiked on our Timberland, he loved it so much, he wanted the federal government to own it. I thought it would be very nice for the National Scenic Trail to go up over the old Medi-Commitment Ad-Nock Trail and would go over Brushing Mountain. She had different ideas. She wanted to keep her forest, working forest, going. So we finally figured out how to go around it so where everybody's happy. I think everybody's happy. When we had opposite goals and he was in Congress, I never guessed that we would be working together to make sure that forests and the forest products industry was viable and he has become a very good friend and I'm proud to say that. There are some politicians, as you all know, who are sort of all show, who do very well in front of cameras and in front of big crowds but don't really do their homework. John is the opposite. He's a former chemistry professor at the university so he's an academic and he's used to researching and reading and learning everything he can about whatever topic he will be voting on. I, my whole political life depended upon the massive votes that Amherst provided to keep me going. I'm very grateful for that. I'm also very grateful to my wife. My wife was the first woman on the faculty at Amherst College. She was really unique. I have never known anybody who could keep more balls in the air and not lose any of them. Every time that I was flagging and getting tired or a little bit of loss of confidence or whatever it was, she was always right behind me, right behind me. I'm in my sixth year of retirement and by the time six years of retirement, people say John Who, you know?