 So it just takes a few seconds for the stream to start. Hi everyone, this is Chicho. Today is October 6th, 2019. And today's live stream is an open discussion on relationships, do's and don'ts of human interaction. Okay, and I don't know what number this is that we've done so far regarding relationships. Fili, thank you for the follow. But basically, name and game is an open discussion. We can talk about almost anything you guys want, but preferably more focused towards relationships. It's do's and don'ts of human interaction, but it goes a little bit beyond that of more than just personal interaction. It's also societal interaction between different cultures, countries, events that trigger certain things happening. Okay, and we're basically, first few minutes is just meet and greet. We wait up until people start rolling into the stream. And that's exactly what we're gonna do today. Let me show you what I got as a snack. This is sort of become a stream ritual. Tea. Magus, how are you doing? Oh hi, we're rolling in. Nice, nice. Glad to have you. Cornelian, cherry, liqueur. I can't have enough of this. And it's a good thing I'm not streaming every day because I'm reserving drinking this during the streams. Reno, Mike, how are you doing? Fantastic. Very delicious. Meet some cuckoo today. So I had a little cuckoo for lunch. And this is amazing. It's like, we've got a couple of videos. It's a Persian dish. It's like lots of greens chopped up, herbs and greens and stuff. And then you add a little bit of flour, eggs, and you cook it up. Philly, how's it going, Chico? I've been watching your streams on YouTube, but I was finally able to catch my first one live. Nice, nice to have you, Philly. Yeah, loading them on YouTube in Bichoud is nice, just doing the live streams. And I've actually started, I got my video editor back up. So what I just started doing this week, basically, was the Bob Ruff's Persian Cuisine. Is there anything you don't cover? There are things that I don't cover that I might cover in the future, but we'll keep it on the down low for now. Later on, we might get into the little more heated topics, I guess. But basically, this week, I sort of got my full blown editor back up. So I've been taking the streams in and cutting up little sections and posting those on as little shorts and then loading up the full stream in Trepid. Greetings, greetings, how are you doing? And what I'm doing is when I'm taking it into the editor, I'm kicking up the volume, the sound on this, and I'm adding a couple of filters just to filter out the noise. And I'm going to play around with that just to see how this mic works. I do need to furrap a lot more space. It's just temporary, I need to do an upgrade. But that's what I'm doing. And I got some video that I've shot HD camera with the lapel mic that I need to edit, but I'm sort of phasing things back in again. So there'll be a lot more videos coming on YouTube, long-winded sort of thing. Catch your live for the first time. Wiga, Wiga, Wiga, Wiga, Wiga, Wiga. You know what your name sounds like? Sounds like a hip-hop song from SPM South Park, Mexican. And it's Wiggy, Wiggy, Wiggy. Can't you see? Something like that. It's a phenomenal song, by the way. That's what it reminded me of. W-W-G-1, W-G-A, W-W-G-1, W-G-A. What does it stand for? It's probably be so cool getting to actually interact with everyone and not just watch. Yeah, for sure. And the live stream is a different beast, right? It's pretty cool. And just so you know, I've edited for the next stream. What was it? It was an economic stream. The one that's going to be loaded on BitShoot on YouTube, there's a couple of chunks missing. Yeah, so when you're watching it live, if I get the chance, if everything works out fine, live is live, everything included. When it's going to be uploaded to BitShoot on YouTube and whatever platform we load on, I might take out little chunks just so we don't get nailed by the sensors, right? Jay Morris, good evening. Bayra Kuku. Usually I eat this with yogurt, but I had a fair bet today already. X. Now what are you doing? Have you studied any philosophy or did you stick to the hard sciences? Have I taken any philosophy courses? I took the philosophy of logic at university. I might have taken another one. But the philosophy of logic was the truth tables. And by the way, Keegan, welcome to the live stream. Philosophy of logic, it was a big auditorium. I took the first year of it. I just wanted to see what it was like, right? Coming from a math background, I found the course to be ridiculously easy. It was crazy. We were not watching, but taking a course, it was a big auditorium. There was a lot of people taking it. I guess it was a mandatory course for arts, students, philosophy, whatever, sociology, whatever they were taking. Some people found it hard. When I was taking it, for me it was just like, this is your philosophy? Like the quantifying philosophical ideas and thoughts. So I took that and I think I took another course. But my main philosophy comes from reading. Nothing formal in academia. How do you spell that food's name? Looks good. There's two different spellings. I guess the official one is K-U-K-U. If you actually do K-U-K-U and then Chicho, there's at least two videos we have up where we've made cuckoo and I show you the recipe. And I got a little bit of couscous here. Eat it with couscous as well. And couscous is good. I don't eat too much of this we had this, so I just cooked it up. It's like very bland, but complements the cuckoo really well. And this thing, the herbs and the greens that I have in this, this has got kale, beet greens, turnip greens, the green tops all chopped up. Kale all chopped up. Some parsley, some Italian parsley, some cilantro and green onions. And you wash them of course and chop them up and put them in a bowl and add a little bit of flour. And I made two big pans and two big pans took eight eggs, right? And a little bit of baking soda, just give it a little puff, right? And a lot of oil. Okay, it's really delicious. It's really good. It's, I don't know, today I've had like five of these so far and I'm still munching on them. This is like full on, full on your green dose, herb dose. If I had to gather a guess, you've read some Marcus Aurelius stab in the dark. I don't, that doesn't ring a bell. Marcus Aurelius does, I believe, but I don't know stabbing, oh, stabbing in the dark meaning you're stabbing in the dark. I thought that was what he's written. Maybe, maybe, I don't know. I'm really bad with names, Keegan. Has been donated, Fleckus has been donated $1,000. 3-3, yes. Whoa. Is that for real? I don't know if that's for real. I really love you. Fleck, Fleck, oh cool. I'll check out those. Okay, cool. I really, Fleck, the Kit 5. I'm trying to pronounce the name. Lots of love. That's for real? If it is, brother, thank you. I'm going to be upgrading the system a little bit. Very much appreciated. I definitely need to get the mic stand and have it come up closer so the sound quality is better and I'll see. It's not real. Yeah, thank you. But if it was, thank you, right? I could definitely use funds to upgrade my systems. I'll put it that way, right? But thanks, X. I saw these come up when I first started streaming. It was really weird. When I first got on Twitch, all of a sudden you saw a lot of views and stuff. And then some of these things came in. I'm really curious to see if this is an Amazon thing to keep people wanting to do and like looking for that kick or if it was just trolls or whatever coming in. Aurelius focuses on Stoicism. He's really insightful. Stoicism. I'm going to look up with Stoicism. Keep it up. Good work. Will do. Thank you for the thoughts, though. Thank you for the thoughts. I'm going to look this up. Stoicism. I'm going to find out what Stoicism is. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right. I want to pop a cuckoo. Stoicism. So let me read this to you guys just on the Wiki, which isn't the best source, but it is a source. On the first level anyway. Stoicism is a school of Hellenistic philosophy founded by Zeno of Citium in Athens in the early third century BC. Stoicism is a philosophy of personal ethics informed by a system of logic and its views on the nature. Natural. On the natural. Let me click. I got to go deeper on this. Views on the natural world. Okay, so let's read the second sentence. Stoicism is a philosophy of personal ethics informed by its system of logic and its views on the natural world, which sounds pretty cool. According to his teachings as social beings, the path to happiness for humans is found in accepting the moment as it presents itself by not allowing oneself to be controlled by the desire for pleasure or fear of pain, which is live in the moment, the present moment, by using one's mind to understand the world and to do one's part in nature's plan and by working together in treating others fairly and justly. Sounds pretty legit. I mean, that is sort of a core sort of philosophy I try to have, right? Treat people fairly, nature is beautiful but also could be very brutal and stuff like that. So, okay, Aurelius. What was the name of the guy? The main guy? Marcus Aurelius. So this is from the Roman era. The Roman Empire, I guess. He has a diary which was converted into a book called Meditation, which is really good. You know what? Now that we're talking about it more, I don't think I've read his stuff, right? But the philosophy, the same mindset I've read from other people. I mean, it's sort of a core philosophy of a lot of different philosophies and religions and stuff. See how this sounds like you. Yeah, that book, Marcus Aurelius. Okay, cool. He was a Roman Emperor. Oh, he was a Roman Emperor. Thanks, Specter. I've looked into, just so you know, I've been, just because I've been following Marcus Aurelius, that's why I know the name. That's right. Was a Roman Emperor from 161 to 180, an a stoic philosopher, I'm assuming. That's A, this gotta be, yeah, it's AD. It's not BC. What do you call it? I've been reading up a little bit on Roman Emperors and the Roman Empire and stuff like this and some of the, I guess, the Roman Emperors basically because I've been following Martin Armstrong's blog and he's a pretty avid historian of that period, which is cool. Which is cool. He's one of the greats of Rome. He was a tactician too, I believe. Okay, cool. There's so many. The Roman Empire was so long, so vast that they, I'm amazed they did such a poor job of teaching it to us, for me anyway, in school, which is crazy because it's spent hundreds of years, but they really focused on, you know, you read Julius Caesar or you read Neo or whatever it is, the Rome burning down and stuff. But you don't read about the huge philosophical achievements or social achievements that they had. Obviously, it was an empire, so it was pretty brutal. One of the other things just from the engineering was the roads, right? If Romans were building infrastructure right now, it wouldn't be crumbling. Is this relationship talk we're doing? How's everybody's relationship going? It's pretty crazy in the world right now, right? So a lot of relationships are under stress. Magus. My monkey paw wish would be for Ciccio to be a narrator for all audio books. A man. I would brutalize all the names and all the books. Really. When I did the reading for Rai number zero, there's a character there, which is the first Geomancer from Valiant Comics. His name is Jeff. But the spelling was G-E-O-P-A. So I kept on during that whole reading, which is over two hours. I kept on referring to it as Gioff. I call Jeff Gioff. So if you're okay with names being totally weird, I'll do your audio book readings. Gioff, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. You just didn't click to me, right? I'm about to take a knee. Scary stuff for me. What do you mean, take a knee? What is it? Are you proposing? Are you proposing, Keegan? Is that what you mean, take a knee? Oh my God. Hardcore. That's serious business. That's serious business. Long-term relationship, we're short. Yeah, congratulations. Have you been together for a long time? Or a short time? Yeah, we're going on vacation to Japan in a few weeks. And I'm trying to plan it out. Oh dude, it's going to be intricate. Hoping for you, brother. Hoping for you, it all works out well. Congrats, man. Congrats, man. Good luck. There's a lot of structural expectations around it. How so? Are they very, very traditional? Did I miss much conversation? Sleepy waves, how you doing? Conversation so far. It's just an intro, right now we're just talking around. What do you call it? Keegan is about to propose to his... No, no, no, no. Oh, he's about to tell us a story. What her mom thinks I'll do. What she expects. What her friends expect. And you're probably going to do something completely different. If what you're doing is what she expects. Maybe, maybe not. You want to surprise her, I guess. Catch her off guard? I don't know. Give her a adrenaline. Wow, amazement. I don't think I can keep everyone happy. No way. Never. In any relationship, no way you can keep everyone happy. Hey man, focus on your own expectations. Very well said, Morrison. Don't just try to appease. Yeah, big... Yeah, it's difficult. Because if you... I agree with Morris. If you constantly try to please your partner. Or appease, is it appease you said? Yeah, if you constantly try to appease, I guess, your partner, it's not going to work out. You have to be who you are, right? And they have to accept you for who you are and you them. There will always be a little bit of conflict because there are things about the other person you won't understand. Until you spend a tremendous amount of time together and you hear all the stories of their childhoods and their relationships. And then you can put things into context and realize why this person does this thing, the way they do this thing. But that's the beauty of long-term relationships. In my humble opinion, the only two people's opinion who matter are yours and your partner's. Magus 100% agree on that. You should try to be kind, gentle, accepting, open to your partner's family. Because your partner's family is your family. If you try to shut them out, and I've seen people do this in relationships, they are not accepting of their partner's family. And that, in the long run, doesn't end well, right? Any advice for someone who may be too nice in a relationship and that is causing some of the lust to fade? Have I had that problem? I don't know. I have. Too nice could be too tolerant or very tolerant accepting of things that may interfere in your love growing. I understand and trap it what you're saying. I think at some point you have to face a deal with the issues you have, right? Being nice and kind is not a bad thing. Really, it's not a bad thing. As long as the other person that you're in a relationship doesn't abuse that kindness, right? It's hard to tell when you're being too nice or not, it seems. You know what? Be as nice as you can. That's what I try to do. I go all out, right? If they're your partner, for me as far as I'm concerned, you give as much as you can. I'm family. You give as much as you can. But there comes a line, if your kindness is being really abused and not appreciated, you can explain to them, look, I'm doing this because I love you. I want to be with you. But please, don't take that love and kindness right? You can be hard and kind at the same time to explain your situation. If they continue to do it, maybe that isn't the relationship for you. I know it isn't for me. If I'm used as a doormat for a long time, I tend to walk away. Stop being too nice. I don't know if it's stopping too nice. You can still be nice, but you can lay down and explain to whoever you're in a relationship with, and it doesn't have to be partner, it could be family, it could be friends, that hey, they're stepping out of line. This is all true, thanks. Lust phase and meaningfulness seems to take its place. Well put, Kegan. Lust is... Can we rephrase that? The frequency of lust reduces, but meaningfulness increases. And meaningfulness in a relationship is not something that is a blip. Lust tends to be a blip. So initially, you're very lustful for each other and then the lust comes in at the appropriate times. It's not always. But then meaningfulness takes over. So you have to sort of balance things out. And if the lust is diminished to a level where you're missing it, you lack it, then you need to change things up to kick that back up again because lust is also a very important desire and wanting is very important. It's hard to tell when you're being too nice and assert your own interests and make clear your own boundaries. Obviously without being an ass hat. And I find assert too strong a reward. I would say communicate, express your desires. If you love something that your partner does not, then there should be an understanding that your partner doesn't have to participate in this thing that they do not like. Just like you don't have to participate in everything that they love. If you're not into it, you don't need to be part of it. If you're spending your life together, you're going to have plenty of time to be together and to do things together. In every relationship I've ever had, my partner does not and there's things that they love doing that I do not. When that happens, we don't do those things together. We do them separately. We are individual beings as well. But we tread this life together. Identify your own boundaries and make sure you are also receiving such kindness. How are you and your relationships? I have good relationships, I have bad relationships. Just like anybody else. I've definitely reduced the number of bad relationships I've had. I'm not just talking partner relationships, soulmate or whatever you want to call it. I'm talking about friendships, family, business relationships, all relationships. I used to have a lot more bad relationships than I do now. As I've gotten older, I've eliminated some of the bad relationships or reduced the frequency. As the saying goes, we're born wherever we're born. That's supposed to be a challenge our life's lot. May it be the family we're in, the friends we're in, the society we're in. We have to deal with those things. But it doesn't mean we have to be those things. If you have a really destructive relationship, you don't have to be a destructive person. You can explain to that person that your relationship is very destructive. You're going to reduce the amount of time you guys spent together until things change. I've been hard. I've had friends for a number of years where they've gone down this route. We've said, listen, we're going down in different directions. Love you. I know you love me. But we can't hang out. Sometimes you touch base once a year maybe and there's relationships I've had that I've totally severed. I wish them the best. I will be there for them and need me, in desperate need of my help. But I don't want to interact with them on my daily life or yearly life. Is getting together good or no? What do you mean is getting together good or no? Void hoc, how are you doing? As a new 25-year-old, last year I eliminated every friends of mine. Now how should I do more? In your circle of friends? Void, is that what you did? Before we continue, let's clarify that. So that means you're friendless right now? You must have certain people you still communicate with. How to do that with friends as well. It is very difficult. Relationships are easy and then they have huge trying periods. Some relationships are hard and they have huge rewards. It's full spectrum. Seriously, full spectrum is crazy. Human interaction is wow. For me my main thing with relationships that I'm in is I try to learn from every relationship that I've had and every relationship that I do have. When we bang heads I try to figure out why that's occurring. Sometimes fault goes both ways. Sometimes fault lays on one of the people or two of the people. Maybe everybody's wrong and you're right. That's more of a rare situation. I've always thought of relationships in the tree of life. I don't think anything is meant to last forever. I don't think so either. Forever is a crazy word. Forever is a crazy word. As we get older we realize time is really a perception of change. Not talking to anyone not hanging out. They were all heavily into hard drugs and other stuff. Good on you for severing that tie. So I crossed them out. I still talk online with one in a video game but I wonder how to make new friends. New friends come from what I've found new friends come from certain things that you love doing activities that you participate in certain groups that you want to interact with. For me I've been lucky. I have friends, really old friends from high school that I still interact with to new friends that I've met that are very close to me even recently. The only way I've been able to do that is to let go of old relationships because you can't maintain 100 close relationships. You can't even maintain 20 close relationships on a regular basis. You can have 20 really close friends that you have or 30 really close friends that you have that you can call up on but you can't interact with them on a daily basis It's too much. First thing Void, congrats brother or sister for walking away from those things I had to do that. I had a conversation with a friend of mine, very very close friend of mine he's like a brother to me and he was like a brother to me back then I think he's still alive, I don't know we used to talk every day, do amazing things together every day, we've done some crazy stuff together and we did this for like 15 years we interacted, I know things about him that no one knows he knows things about me that no one knows all of that said over the phone we talked and I said brother, you're on a completely destructive path and I have no desire to kill myself in that way I want to do other things in life I don't think we can chill together anymore and he was like, yeah I know man I said best of luck to you, if you ever need me desperately let me know, otherwise we're gonna have to end it and since that time, I was like 10 years ago since that time I ran into a once we talked and I had one email conversation with him drugs, alcohol people who are on a destructive path, if you can get out of those types of relationships do it, don't worry about filling the void yet as long as you start interacting in your community, maybe eating out maybe going playing pool maybe joining this group joining that group, book club activities, sports, going for walks going to the beach, going shopping you just run into people outside of very soulless business relationships I find myself in my 30s with very few close friends who have never moved away or gotten married it seems harder to make friends the older you get I guess it is harder to make friends the older you get and that's not necessarily a bad thing because the older you get the friendships that really stick with you they're way more solid than the friendships you might have had when you were younger so that's one thing you might be working too much if you're working 6 days a week, 10 hours a day you have no time to build close relationships because building relationships with people requires time, energy, caring being there for them and they for you, right? but if you're working all the time, if someone messages you and you feel like going for a walk then you say, oh no, I gotta work maybe that was your opportunity that was an extremely close relationship that you just passed upon so you have to make yourself available for people not everyone, but at times I find that in our society in different parts of the world, people work so much to build close relationships so consider that that's sort of, you have to evaluate that right? are you at university, how old are you? join a club, play some sports, yeah I agree with AUTMEK go to, if you live in I don't know if this exists outside of Canada but there are board gaming groups I know in my city there is there's board gaming store where you can, it's a coffee shop and they have tables set up where people can play board games you can go there and find out if anybody wants to play a board game that they need people to play I think that's the way they operate they're looking for fillers find out if there's any fillers and join a board gaming group amazing, like I've joined pool clubs playing pool and stuff like this Void, 25, never went to college I don't really do sports, I'm more of a paintballer myself, well paintball is a huge activity but paintball sort of attracts a certain type of people to void, right? I'm actually instead play paintball and it's a gaming group really, there must be really tight paintball groups do you feel it is more difficult to make meaningful connections with people in the digital age? no, no I find that it's easier to hook up with people who understand you more in the digital age right? you know, we do create bubbles for ourselves so if I'm interested in something maybe politics, economics, social activity, gaming or whatever it is, I can go down the rabbit hole and know almost everything about this so on that level it's difficult for people to penetrate my understanding of the system or my perceived understanding of the system, but when you meet someone who's that intense about that thing as you are that is a sweet ass relationship, really so I don't know if it's made it more difficult I think some of the relationships have become more meaningful is there some kind of paintballing club or team you can join Void? yeah, good question, Odmek a few nights ago I stayed the night over at a friend's house who I recently just got over we had a casual fling a few months ago but she ended it because I was more into her than she was into me I wanted to actually process it two nights ago, seeing her being again was super less intense and I almost wanted to laugh at how dramatic I was being however, I can't tell if I feel more grounded now enough to see this person in a casual manner or just let it go all together I'm really attractive to them or attracted to them, I guess sleepy waves, let it be if you enjoy their company, you want to spend time with them spend time with them don't infatuate over them and the person I think was being I'm assuming sleepy waves, you guys are pretty young because if one person it's rare I've seen relationships where both people are into each other intensely on the same level it really doesn't happen it's rare, that's Hollywood or one out of a million people usually there's one person that is more into the other person than that person is into them but if this person is mature and if they don't have anything else going on there might be other things going on but if this person is not in a relationship they'd be foolish to say, I'm not into you as much as you are into me if you haven't crossed that boundary, how do you know? because once you get into a relationship you get to know the deeper person in a big way, right? their kinks their flaws so if the relationships a good sleepy way is, I'd stick with it it doesn't have to be intimate all relationships are intimate I'm 32, I have few friends I'm very close with that's all I need you learn when you're younger who is a true friend and who is just out to get something from you Jebus, I think your sentence, I'm not going to try that I think what you're saying is when you're younger, you get taken advantage of easier and I agree as you get older, you realize what you don't want the kicker in life is not to figure out what you want is to figure out what you don't want in life the type of relationships you don't want the type of job you don't want the type of people you don't want to hang around the type of activities you don't want to do as soon as you eliminate the things you don't want slowly, you start getting empty spots that you need to fill and hopefully you're wise enough to fill them in with things that you do want to do just go slow thank you for your kind words, Magus everyone really, there's a lot of great advice being put out here as I said, I'm 25 and in high school I was one of those popular kids 4,500 plus social media oh too much, kill that social media everyone knew my head and to recently went friendless I used to do things in a way so that other people could think something of me my mind seems more sharp now than I don't have to do things to impress others it sounds like you're in an amazing headspace go that way I sort of feel you it's Hennessy's Sunday here what you sipping on Hennessy's amazing by the way this is my Cornelian cherry liqueur I told myself I'm only going to drink this right now only when I'm doing live streams I might start doing live streams every day it's really delicious it's really delicious it sounds like you're in an amazing headspace you made the right choice 4,500 social media you can sit down if you're life dependent on you to name 300 of the people on your social media network unless you're really into 500 yeah reduce that for me I spent the time in my life I think it was during my university for two years I closed myself off I didn't want to interact with anyone some people I called I was in a different city so I didn't make any friends locally I stayed in touch with some friends I had in my hometown and when I went back I went back to university I didn't even have a TV I read books played soccer went for walks if you press alt F4 I subscribe I have no idea what alt F4 does oh yeah I've seen a couple of follow and subs thank you for the follow and if you sub thank you for the subs I'm 20 so all I've known is digital age so I'm lacking that perspective that's too bad really I love the digital age absolutely love it I hopped on it right away when it came up in the early 90s I was online late 80s I was online but it's not being connected to 4500 people is a brilliant thing really however the digital age gives a certain depth to some of your relationships that you want to grow I'm not even sure if you can ever get that perspective back again you could if you went to places where social media is not as large or just cut yourself off of social media the problem is there's a lot of people in our society that want to connect with you through social media like I know people have friends that recent friends that they're on Facebook right and they want to hook up they want to communicate through Facebook and I've told them man just send me an email and let's hook up in person so I make an effort to meet people in person and that's one thing that you can do if you're only reliant on digital age on social media right like a lot of my friends that I've had initially anyway a lot of my friends some of my recent friends when we hook up they know that my cell is either not with me or turned off right so when they start looking at their cells I bring it up you're checking your messages a lot is there something important you're looking for waiting for and if they say no why do you keep on looking at the screen let's turn it off right some people don't like it and if they don't like it I don't really hang out with them too much if I'm hanging out with someone and they constantly have their phone with them and tweeting texting talking whatever it is that they're doing commenting I don't get too much out of that so I don't hang around with them for long I pour a drink I hope others join me salut to those who are enjoying a Sunday chill session Jefferson's reserve I don't know Jefferson's reserve he needs some commas oh reading stuff yeah commas help out a lot when reading stuff go slow lonely piggy how are you doing welcome welcome and the interface how are you doing hi lonely piggy can't wait until my strawberry liqueur is really strawberry liqueur is it sleepy waves have you tasted it yet is it ready this cornemian cherry within two weeks was tasting amazing the flavor absorbed the flavor as fast as the strawberries I talk a lot online with the playstation I talk daily to two to three guys and I feel like our friendship is really strong more than some of those fake cats high schoolers yeah void sounds like you're doing all the right things shalom ladies and gents I'm new to this channel Gomez adam in five welcome to our channel are you just trolling brother you're a silly little guy really oh look at this let me do a band sorry gang if you guys see a troll I was way behind so if you guys see a troll let me know I know I lose the stream okay so I've scrolled all the way down I missed some chat unless I see ba ba ba ba ba ba ba let me scroll up see if there's anything chicho standing out what are some date ideas aside from eating out I always feel like I'm in an interview at a restaurant oh sleepy waves date ideas brother so many stuff with on dates I've taken dates on cliff jumping didn't work out too well long walks is amazing walks are amazing go to the beach right forget a restaurant if you have your own space invite him over and cook right some of my most amazing relationships I've ever had has been people I'm interested in watching me perform in the kitchen cook for them that I highly recommend if you have a kitchen if you know how to cook invite him over give them a have a stool in your house or sort of an open bar system where they can sit down and cook food for them and when you're cooking food don't just cook one dish play around with different foods give little samplers enjoy pour yourselves a drink chit chat have a little music going on invite him over to listen to music go to a concert go to a show and it doesn't take him to a stadium show well you could I guess but go to little local restaurants and pubs where they're playing more of a sort of blues jazz electronic if they're into festivals say hey listen I want to go to this festival and you know I can't find anyone to go with me they're not into this type of music if you're into this you know be on the up and up and say listen you bring your tent I'll bring my tent we can just get the space together enjoy this festival together go play pool I play pool on a lot of dates anything restaurant is not bad I've gone to many restaurant dates but the formal restaurants are too posh posh puffy puffy right congrats chit chat you attracted a troll we have another troll there we go sorry about that gang sorry about that gang imagine trolling ASMR streams that person has to work on their relationship skills even if you can't cook get them to help and make it together oh dude make it together for sure kitchen is a funny thing though right for me one thing you can do if you know how to cook you can get them to do the prep work can you chop up the onions see if you can handle it if you love food if you love cooking and you know they feel weird chopping onions some people don't like onions give them something neutral to chop up do a little prep or wash is a late night car right it's a date sure I've done really here's one thing I've done on dates check this out one of the things I used to do on dates I used to have a pathfinder back in the 25 years ago I had a pathfinder I had a pathfinder because I did a lot of geophysics work so I needed the space but I also had my pathfinder dialed in you can learn so much about someone from the way the kitchen is ridiculously important and what I did with my pathfinder I had amazing music that I listened to I had food in the car I had drink in the car all in the back of course never in the front and one thing I had in my pathfinder was I had a candle I would put it where the stick shift was and I would light the candle would go on a date just go on a drive and I love drive just drive around neighborhood explore your city forest like driving out of the city at night and parking the car and looking up into the sky is amazing sit in the car, light the candle and drive around, maybe even just drive around the city really drive around the city listen to music not blasting music like you're 16, 17 years old but nice chill music, conversation light a candle, there's something that happens when there's a candle lit between people when they're talking it intensifies things and the lighting it used to give inside the car was magical it just calms things down it just calms things down late night car rides sounds funny but as long as the trust is there this wasn't on a first date basis so taking them on a late car drive into the forest might not be a good idea might not be a good idea dating is magical or it can be magical, it can also be extremely extremely frustrating hey there Chicho, how's it going? doing good to guess three stooges, that's right I'm glad I'm learning how to pronounce people's names because as soon as I pronounce that I go I remember three stooges, mostly frustrating for me I've gone through periods extremely frustrating Frank, really, I've gone through periods where you want an intense new relationship and it's just not there no matter what you do you encounter bad ones or you get into situations where the poop hits the fan I've been in that situation usually those occur when there's alcohol involved and huge bar settings and stuff like this a few months ago I found out I couldn't have children my boyfriend wanted his own biological children we eventually realized it made our relationship compatible, I'm not phased yet by my own infertility, I'm only 21 I don't even have many friends who are in long term relationships but it's surreal to have a two year relationship and so suddenly, because of an issue you didn't know existed, yeah, I'm sorry about that intense, but you know what, Oddmic it might be for the best dude, it's strange how compelling it is to talk about personal issues on the internet I wonder if it's because of the anonymity possibly, and it's also people get uncomfortable talking about difficult topics when you're young because you don't have enough life experience to put things into context for me, when I read your comment I feel you, I've known people in my life that have encountered this but right now with the life experience I realize that for me it can be a big issue, but it's not a big issue life can drop things on you it can make not being able to have children same door for comparison and Oddmic, did you want to have children? I mean, the kicker is I'm okay with adoption personally just because I've been around kids long enough to know that DNA, even though DNA dictates certain life traits, certain health issues or non issues every human being has the capacity to be anything they want to be, right? I'm personally okay with adoption maybe your partner for two years wasn't but the one thing I can tell you as well I don't want to lessen the value of that relationship but, you know, 19 to 21 it's very young to be in a relationship that is assumed that it's going to be permanent for a long time it's very young, I know I had my head up my for a very long time after my 20s, man I would have hate to have been in a relationship with me in my 20s straight up, right? minimum wage job ideas not in the kitchen, go for a walk if they like nature, void, go for a walk in your neighborhood in the on the beach go beachcombing, there's some amazing stuff you can find on the beach go out in the woods around the lake, I know in my part of the world there's trails that surround lakes there's a lot of lakes in my area, so go for walks around lakes just outdoor stuff costs nothing, right? aside from that, go to the library go to a bookstore really, I've had friends that say that for their first date and female friends for their first date they would like to take a guy to a bookstore and not chapters, I mean it's okay like big box chain bookstores taken to local little used bookstore places they're just bookstores, right? there's some local bookstores we have in our area which are like three stories like you could spend weeks in there right? and grab a book and read a book together or you read a book, they read a book just be together in proximity once you're together in proximity they move in a certain way right? when they move in a certain way that builds a little bit of relationships right? one of the great things I love doing with dates is going for a walk in the city all over the place from the ghetto you know needle park to high end posh places I just can't meet anyone who fits in my lifestyle Frank change your activities a little bit right? oh dude it's strange I'm going slow with this chat oh my god I'm so slow with this I'm gonna scroll down a little bit, internet is a beautiful space give a person a mask and they'll tell you the truth or full of lies or deep or full of lies agent provocateurs, well I guess they're telling the truth when they create chaos how to be more direct with people is what you want, yeah sometimes I feel like I can't ask for what I want from people sometimes because it's on me to figure out what I need but also because I just can't bring myself to bring things up and confront certain conversations sleepy waves I agree with you, that's a major issue it's becoming a bigger issue because of the PC culture people are triggered right now like crazy, let me tell you about one date I went on if there's any trolls let me know, I'm gonna scroll down and then I'll try to scroll up and see the thing, here's a date that I went on here's how the person met me saw me is there anything serious I should be answering I don't know if there's gonna be a long reply from me or not let me scroll down a little bit if there's anything serious let me know but hail Hydra, hail Hydra I hope that's referring to something common I was shooting a math video ASMR math video we were doing substitution and solving quadratic functions where I have my paper on a tree this was a few years ago I was in this park during the day and there was a couple of other people walking their dogs it was a huge beautiful park and I had camera set up doing math on a tree on paper and these two girls were playing they were going on the swings, they're not girls, they're women they were going on the swings, sliding and stuff like this and I found out they slowly made their way close to me because they were trying to figure out what the hell is this guy doing so they came by and stuff like this we interacted and I got one of their numbers and she really wanted to connect and I found out that she was just this friend that they met online she had flown over from the UK to Vancouver to meet this person they met online and they were spending a week together she was meeting them and stuff like this and she really wanted to hook up so we exchanged numbers and she wanted to go on a date we went together to a ramen house eating Japanese noodles at the restaurant we were talking and I said we started talking and I checked you out online she goes, you did what? I'm online a lot if I'm going on a date with someone I'm going to do a search why wouldn't you do? why did you look me up online? don't you want this to be exciting and spontaneous? me looking your name up online was spontaneous I checked out who you are I just wanted to check you out for me it just didn't register and she goes, I'm sorry I'm online a lot I've never met anyone that was freaking out about this I'm not a stalker or anything, you came to me online you know who I am because I told her who I was and then I said, by the way just so you know she was a little paranoid maybe she was triggered by something and I said, by the way just so you know your resume is online your resume is online and it says what you like I didn't look too deep into it, I just wanted to check you out that's it she goes, oh my god, my resume is online we went on a few other dates after that and it didn't work out, she was ok girl she still owes me $40 she's ok girl or woman but it is what it is some people just initial major thing they don't, you can't mesh with them right? yeah man, that interest is piling up googling someone does does not equal stop, yeah I know simply making sure they're not it's ok I'm funny I'm funny I'll stop and read a couple of the comments that I missed I really think people put too much expectations on early relationships two people who have no idea who they are or what they want is very likely to fail, you gotta spend time and just be proximity, be within proximity together just walk in the city and see how they handle panhandlers what did they do, take them places where you know there's graffiti and I've done this go to graffiti alley in your city usually in the alley make sure there's people around so they're not paranoid take them to places where there's graffiti on the walls and see their how they behave what they think, one day I went on to a restaurant and there's an art gallery happening and I won't go into detail but I've gone to first days we've gone to art galleries showings we go from in my city or both cities they have art neighborhood art gallery shows there's galleries opening up gallery hopping see how they interact with art huge, huge, for me it is art is very important to me but love is the answer most people are looking for a life time devotion of love, not me I'm looking for the three stuishes yuck yuck yuck I had to get a retraining order back in February against an ex not a restraining order, who was stalking me and sending lies about me to my oh man, that's unfortunate, relationships definitely have ups and downs but the ups usually outweigh the downs hopefully, hopefully, I guess yeah, I think I wanted to have children I still think I want to have children I was always fine with adoption but I guess he wasn't, it didn't come up until it eventually did, yeah of course long term planning at my age probably foolish and idealistic but what's the point of being young if not foolish and idealistic? Well said, Oddmek well said, and by the way, just your comments Oddmek you are you are comparing myself to 21 and you are way, way more together, mature, grounded, intelligent than I was when I was 21, I really seriously, just your comments and your interaction and your thoughts and mathematics of course so, man, Oddmek you are doing phenomenal, really but I love my life, I don't want to change it so Frank, change it to meet someone I rather meet someone who fits in my lifestyle but women love stability and safety, I thrive in the chaos I travel the world full time, Frank it's not just women that love stability and safety men as well, in general our current education system, political system, economic system has instilled fear in the western world anyway for majority of people in the western world that they seek out stability and safety they want this they fear this for me, Frank I'm with you, I'm this, I do this sometimes I don't want to do this, I don't want to calm down but I put myself, when I was doing this I put myself in a situation where the poop hit the fan and I did this and then I got to crawl back up, every time that this happens I learn a lot more about life where all of a sudden I control the ups and the downs or this extreme versus this extreme how low it goes or how intense it goes to what not there are people out there who also appreciate this and by the way you can't say you don't want to change change it to meet someone I've, in a lot of my relationships I've been in, I had to change certain aspects of my behavior to be with that person and that was a good thing there's no way I can say that I know everything I definitely knew very little when I was in my 20s seriously I was silly to put it lightly I've been told I can't use the R word anymore so I'm not going to say I was R because I was I'm glad I had to change improve myself and I'm very grateful for those relationships that planted that seed in me because the whole point of life should be we should try to improve avoid, it's totally fine doesn't everybody check, yeah that's the Google and someone sent you a question first you stalk them online, then you bring them to a dark out in the middle of the night this is scary and that person by the way we went to a show together and it was a Halloween and I dressed up as something I had firecrackers and the pounded screecheroos if you know fireworks, pounded screecheroos together and she turned to me look me in the eye and said you're crazy and that was the last relationship we went on that was the last date we went on I'm somewhat off a graph artist graffiti artist myself and I've never thought of doing that how they feel when they see X graffiti is such a genius, yeah void dude, it's brilliant I've been on walks with on dates where I take them to a place where there could be huge tags some places pretty dirty you walk around and you see them they're in awe that's very cool some of them are like oh man this is phenomenal take them to some obscure places again the trust has to be there don't take them there on a first date the world is what it is thoughts on open relationships, yeah for sure both parties or three parties or four or the whole party okay with their open relationships, sure more and more I find myself meeting people who mostly date in that manner it's just so much work on the communication and setting boundaries yeah sleepy waves, a lot of work and in general most of these open relationships I haven't seen them last very long the last a while and then they fade away some that I've seen that I've known they're in open relationships and you know they have children and stuff like this it's their thing, right? but to me the more people in a relationship the more complicated, a lot of open relationships the way it works is there's no emotional attachment to it and some open relationships is the partner the physical I don't know what the proper terminology is the people that their partner is seeing once a week or once a month or something like this sometimes they introduce them in their relationship that to me would become very complicated right? hell yes my friend communism works 100% communism works that come from maybe I missed a comment I've been watching your videos for a bit I'm happy to catch this stream, I hope I can make it around more often the specter TV, thanks for being here it's been fun doing this stuff for sure open relationships are just a license to cheat haha, is that a license? is acceptance to cheat? approval? that's not really cheating because the other person knows about it I know you're laughing in my humble opinion oh I thought it was a laugh in my L-O-A-F whatever, laughing my ass off find yourself in Aries in Aries I don't know what the Aries thing is mask of raven, how are you doing? how's life? in all your years of experience have you ever found a good answer for do I look fat in this? you look beautiful baby you look beautiful baby sometimes they say what else did you pick up? some fights are just unreasonable too thanks Chicho, I appreciate it I mean what I say I don't believe in astrology and I did date in Aries before she went absolutely crazy over the smallest thing well Frank you said you like it, chaos that is what you attracted, is it not? you said you like chaos not petty drama not petty drama chaos okay I'll go with that not petty drama chaos, agreed how do you start doing graffiti? sounds like it be difficult to practice you have to practice on paper first you can't grab, I don't know a lot of people you have to get your signature down properly first I forget who it was that said they were into graffiti most people learn the tagging first you need to get your signature your script down and then you start doing on paper before you hit the paint cans from one understand, I don't do graffiti but I've known graffiti artists a few Frankness, I've been moving around all the time getting lost in the world, definitely not screaming matches taking 10 minutes too long oh man, that's drama out the door drama, black book that's the graffiti, perfect markers first, train for days and months learn the basics, so this is about graffiti how do you start doing graffiti? so the reply from Void is black book, textbook, markers first train for days and months, learn the basics make your own hand style, repeat alphabet with it, then learn tagging only names, not in 3D then when mastered you learn throw-ups, quick 3D graphs graffiti, then you go into wild styles, nice, learn letter boxes and do some sort of vandalism, yes trains, did you put trains on there later on yet, since this is art, you do not hit people's people's property, no cars no houses, no schools, go to where there's already graffiti in your city and start art perfect, excellent advice Void never private property like really public, I think that's public if there's a place where there's a billboard as far as I'm concerned, that's fair game if they're spamming the world or trying to program the world into what they're selling, you have the right to program the world in what you're selling, you may not be paying for that programming to get your message out, but you are putting a lot of time in most people I know in open relationships don't introduce their partners to each other if so, it's more for safety, sex practice they know who the person is when you introduce from what I understand anyway when you introduce the other person, that sometimes is on the road to swinging petty drama is as much chaos as major stuff, the little things add up petty drama is crazy, life throws you enough chaos, drama is social engineering, social programming from my experience, those people who participate in drama have had traumatic events happen in their lives when they were younger, so you have to dig down and figure out what the traumatic event was or they watched too much reality TV Hollywood or whatever it is and they don't know what's important in life so if there's a lot of ridiculous drama that tells me that they really don't know what's important in life, they haven't been hit hard yet and if someone hasn't been hit hard yet or they haven't experimented with entheogens or meditation or whatever it might be the relationship is quite shallow for me I just want to chime in on professional relationships the following saying has been beneficial to me show me your friends and I'll show you your future 7 surround yourself with those who have already achieved the goals you're aiming for also with people who are striving to do better be better, understand the world they know their own flaws but I love the saying show me your friends and I'll show you your future well said, one of the sayings on this level that I have is I mentioned this before, I think I got it from the Godfather or something like this let me see if I can put it, remember it properly having intelligent enemies is not a problem because intelligent enemies will not hurt you as long as you're also intelligent the things that hurt you in life are stupid friends and they hurt you by leaps and bounds more than personal decisions having stupid friends in your life but stupid friends end up destroying many lives and many friends in your life that's cool I've always been so impressed by it, whenever I see I'm in a big city, it's incredible how its citizens use art to contribute to a city's identity, that's graffiti what's that graffiti documentary called there's some amazing by the way, there's some amazing graffiti documentaries out there they're brilliant, love them it's one of the elements of hip hop graffiti, I no longer listen to what women say I just watch what they do behavior never lies Jedi task, how about men as well just people, it's not women, it's people I no longer listen to what people say I just watch what they do behavior never lies the first place you look for that is politicians billboards are called heaven spots if you fall, you go to heaven is that what it's called? I didn't know that dude don't generalize one you can't generalize like that dude women are people and people are different we should always say I no longer listen to what some people say majority people say it's not women men really it's not it's your brainwashing programming that is instilled in you I don't blame you, when I was younger I did have that mindset as well and then I grew up, I went to the world and I realized, god damn everybody is the same, we're all the same we all live this life, we're all the same the way we interact with what's happening in the world depends on what's happened to us up to that point if we don't like the way certain things are triggering us try to find out why we're being triggered and change it can I share an experience I had recently for sure, for sure, we won't judge nah, from this applies 10 times more to men, if anything yeah, Stevie Ways probably I've known a lot of drama in men congrats, you are the first person to pronounce Kuras Kai correctly nice, awesome true, I'm just a fan of the butterfly theory, cool true, I just met some strange woman yeah, I bumped into an ex the other day she broke up with me I said, hey, but I completely blanked I forgot her name, she was really upset oops, that's okay that means you got a good handle on your hardware you found out that a file was corrupt and you deleted it oops just tell her it was anxiety, stress or you had a lot on your mind and didn't expect her, then for some reason I followed up with, there's a lot of names to remember now your hard drive is crashing brother the trick is to never listen to what men or women do mask of raven, so let's check it out the trick is to never listen to what men and women do and also not pay attention to how they act and also not leave the house abolish a french mask of raven jibus so the kudo sky to jibus you now know why she broke up with me lay off the 420 brother awdmg, oh man have you guys watched styesgate, I've watched part of it I still can't find the styesgate, I still can't find the actually, I found, no I still haven't found the dump version awdmg, I haven't found the dump version of styesgate actually, last time I looked was for all the year ago, I got to look it up again tell her you changed world lines, oh man now I got to look up styesgate again chichu, what's your son sign? I feel like you're a capricorn or earth sign, no brother I'm triple gemini from what I've been told love styesgate, mask of raven says just to clarify, it was a year ago we broke up and I hadn't seen her for that line jivas, a year ago someone you broke up, you hadn't seen for a year that's okay your hard drive is okay it was just archived sorry, got a bad DMA if you're in a relationship you should always remember her name oh no, unless it was satan then don't worry about it do I remember all of my relationships names? if I saw them out of the blue after a few years maybe not, oh mask of raven I read that manga you recommended oh, which manga was that on mech? sub graded and dub I disagree mask of raven, that's what people always say sub, greater than dub I disagree because as long as it's good dub there's a lot of bad dub out there some of the early anime stuff there's horrendous dub and some horrendous sub, I've watched some anime horrendous subs but they're voice actors so it doesn't matter if you're hiring a Japanese voice actor or an English voice actor as long as that is their profession and they are professional they're good at it that's what they do as a living I don't know like the dubs for samurai shampoo cowboy bebop space dandy they're amazing and a lot of other ones I've seen oh my fucking god oh shit dude, sleepy waves it was only a month we were dating it was only a month dude I'm surprised you even recognized her your hard drive is fine you just know how to archive things according to their importance ah Nick, which was that yeah I'm curious which manga was that oh wait you might not be the right person are you the mass student or the European bartender what a difference saying mass student or the European bartender I'm the mass student I prefer dub too I feel like it takes away something from the show I can't quite put my finger on it well because we're reading text I want to see the imagery beautiful there's a lot of time and energy to creating this animation I want to immerse myself in what they've created I want to read text I want dub lots of anime that's subtitled no choice but I prefer dub if I can find dub ah never mind, sorry these user names get confusing sometimes yeah I'd make, I feel you I was impressed by myself for recommending a good manga because I don't read that many I learn quite a bit of Japanese I enjoy hearing it so I might be biased towards sub or yeah if I spoke Japanese, 100% even if I spoke broken Japanese I would watch it I wouldn't even watch it in sub I would try to improve my Japanese by watching the anime actually I would do sub because you do want to scan it learn it I prefer the Steins Gate sub but I usually prefer the dub Champloo, Beepop, My Hero Academia, Fantastic Psychopaths, I like the dubs more but having both makes the rewatch easier cool is investing in Dao Jones a good thing it depends in which stocks if you're investing in the ETFs that mirror the thing I personally wouldn't be in Dao did we really discuss which anime is your favorite my favorite or people's favorite I have a whole bunch of anime that I like on my about page I've listed a whole bunch of anime anime worth watching there's so many of them so many, so many I find a lot of anime to be more real more substantial more intellectually challenging more entertaining, more brilliant more beautiful than many of the live action tv shows movies that I've seen they were really the Steins Gate Madamada I don't know what Madamada is have you seen the in shadow animation no I don't think I've seen no I haven't seen in shadow the Steins Gate dub is on youtube oh is it on youtube? I just posted it oh oddnik thank you I've been trying to hit the pirate bay zap it from the pirate bay and I haven't been able to find again this was like a year ago I tried where to read about the history of China oh sleepy waves I don't know one person I've been watching that's talking about the history of China there's a few things I've been seeking I won't recommend anything right now because I haven't been following them long enough the history of China I just know some of it right I'm learning a lot more as time progresses oh the dub is there too mask of raven you're happy too nice made in japanese for made not good enough popularized in the US by the game Overwatch oh really made in japanese for not good enough I guess ok I love anime I just think animation is a better medium to tell science fiction stories there are less limits 100% oddnik and animation deals with some issues that are grand that I've rarely seen dealt with in movies live action movies or tv shows maybe because there's less filters involved in anime there's a lot of underground anime studio picks up this animation it's like independent comic books they're way more in general real intense than stuff put out with the big two right can you link me to the person you mentioned is doing content about chinese history ok here let me let me give you this one ok here let me find you this I've been following this person recently ok now they're not the end all or be all of things you know I've only seen a few videos here let me show you this I think they're biased to a certain degree right they are biased there's no doubt about it ok but I found this video specifically useful ok it's about Hong Kong I've seen like probably 3-4 videos from this person it's someone that I'm just recently following watching some of their stuff just to give me a perspective and Caspian report is good as well if you do Caspian report they haven't done too much on China some actually so Caspian report does history of a lot of different places around the world and Caspian report Caspian report don't take everything Caspian report says as absolute truth I've caught them not caught them I mean they can't they can't know everything right but they're trying to present a perspective that is legit however I'm Armenian I know the Armenian history they're in Azerbaijan and Armenian Azerbaijan on conflict Iran a little bit conflict Azerbaijan in that area they're presenting more of the Azerbaijani perspective than the other perspective but they've done some neutral stuff regarding China because I don't know all the intricate details of Chinese history right someone that knows all the intricate details of Chinese history might not like the stuff that Caspian report has put out I don't know that's why you need multiple sources of information okay madameid tajugomon no tutsu what's this tajugomon no tutsu what is that thing void let me check this out is this related is this an anime oh this is regarding China history okay cool I'm gonna pin that I'll try to zap it later oh man recently a good anime show I just watched is Undone on Amazon it's Roboscoped so really real actors and then animated on top of them like Scanners Darkly was pretty good real trippy stuff that deals with mental health highly recommend to everyone can you post that in our discord if you're there the china history podcast is a good source China history podcast I'm gonna zap this as well because things are kicking up in China right and with what's going on with the west so we have to be informed so we follow Chinese stories what not awesome thanks oh mask of raven you can write japanese that's cool salut one more cuckoo that's papa cuckoo salut kigen nice chill sunday stream love it love it love it what else is there what else is there one of the things I found are you two famous quotes some depending on the quote fear is the mind killer give us a famous quote kigen give us a famous quote I'll make it easy here it's uh the other one was tea I just tried this is the cornelian cherry liqueur I still have to upload the video I gotta edit the video and upload it I'm just getting my editing up hope to have that up within two weeks is there any way to make alcohol taste good cornelian cherry liqueur strawberry liqueur lemon liqueur is the way to go everything but many things so you know the doom and fear is the mind killer everything in moderation including moderation excellent my version of that I don't know who said that everything in moderation including moderation I do extremism in moderation or in certain degree so you can't go extreme all the time do extreme and then moderate your extremism who said that anyway kigen everything is moderation Oscar Wilde said it awesome awesome dilution and lots of sugar masquerade is the way you pronounce liquor just the Canadian accent no liquor is different than liqueur liqueur specifically means sweet alcoholic beverage usually I think more than 25% or something like this liquor is general over umbrella right? I think anyway I like alcohol but that works for my friends that don't he had some great quotes Oscar Wilde yeah I don't know what they are but I know I've read some of them my friend my girlfriend has a weird sex request for me to take a real hoax not negotiable and I don't want to is there something wrong with her that she want that type of emulation? I don't think so it's something between you guys right? is there something wrong with her? I don't know wrong no people have different kings people have different fetishes people sometimes have never had something and they want to know what it feels like and that is their thing like they want to experience that and then when they experience it they go okay I'm out maybe she's just curious maybe she's seen stuff she thinks this but it is personal right? you should talk to her you know find out if she's had that before does she enjoy it? it's just something she wants to do on a regular basis have you ever done? how do you know you won't like it? I know I wouldn't like it personally not my thing but just questions right? I ask the right questions the answers are really not as important I have no idea what meat tastes like but it sounds kind of amazing alcoholic honey sounds real cool meat is good if you like honey meat is good or it could be good his death bed on his death bed he said I'm in a war from my life with this wallpaper either it goes or I do is that what he said? seriously? awesome I made meat before oh did you? nice didn't turn out very good depends on who makes it how they make it this is my favorite quote from Vonnegut oh we're gonna read this oh sleepy waves let's read the quote from Vonnegut quote thus that a handful of rapacious citizens come to control all that was worth controlling in America thus was the savage and stupid and entirely inappropriate and unnecessary and humanless America class American class system created honest, industrious, peaceful citizens were classed as blood suckers if they asked to be paid a living wage and they saw that praise was reserved hence for those who devised means of getting paid enormously enormously for committing crimes poof that's a critique odd-mic it's not just a quote, it's a critique oh it continues against which so let me read the last part and they saw that praise was reserved hence forth for those who devised means of getting paid enormously for committing crimes against which no laws had been passed thus the American dream turned belly up, turned green, bobbed to the scummy surface of cupidity, unlimited filled with gas, went bang at the noon-day sun that's awesome the first part is a critique the second part is brilliant thus the American dream this part I would put a quote Kurt Vonnegut thus the American dream turned belly up, turned green bobbed to the scummy surface of cupidity unlimited filled with gas, went bang at the noon-day sun I don't even know the visualization I get is related to a toilet like that's funny so sleepy ways what are some interesting kinks you've found people have communicated to you there's a lot of kinks man there's so much everybody has kinks let me think about it I'm 26 and I've never had a romantic relationship is there any other way of getting the emotional development you would normally get from a relationship what do you look in at what do you look in at so I'm 26 and I've never had a romantic relationship is there any other way of getting the emotional development you would normally get from a relationship from a romantic relationship I'm assuming you could have a relationship where there's a lot of touching hugging caressing but when it comes to romantic intimacy I don't know of maybe I haven't explored any other type of relationship that would give you that intimacy of merging with someone at that physical level I don't know savage quote Keegan says about it's in two parts character limit yeah cut Muhammad Ali the boxer had a funny quote the hardest fight I ever fought was with my first wife awesome what do you think of Kurt Vonnegut's book I've read some I've read I've never finished a full-blown no I've never finished a full-blown Vonnegut book I've read pages and brilliant I just haven't been in the mindset to read that last bit about gas and explosion is my favorite quote but context was needed yeah that quote that was brilliant that was awesome my wife wants to try new things in the bedroom she wants to try Olympic sex I says how that go she said once every four years I guess marathon sex would be the opposite of that right next time she says that Olympic sex Jedi is laughing once every four years like someone brings that up just say would you like to do a marathon or a sprint I've had sex lots of times and they were the least intimate experiences of my life got nothing from it didn't enjoy it at all here's the thing what are you looking for in that did you have intercourse sex with people that you had no love for it was just a physical thing if that's the case then sex can be that as well so sex is not all and be all of things of relationships but when you're emotionally invested in someone when you bond at that level it's different than just one night stands one night stands could be amazing don't get me wrong it could be amazing brilliant you may want that again and again and again but the other one is also it could be amazing and brilliant you may want that again and again and again if you're going to read a bongo book I recommend cat's cradle really slaughterhouse 5 yeah I've read parts of slaughterhouse 5 the movie was good I like the movie it's normally recommended but I really think cat's cradle is his best work and most emblematic of his ideas really cat's cradle I'm going to ask you to put it on discord can you that way I can add it to my reading list here I'm going to grab it actually I'm going to pin it cat's cradle pinning all these things I hope you guys are taking notes I am and I appreciate all the info all the info oh Magnus something got not allowed I'm going to allow I don't know what you said oh here's a kicker when I allow something it kicks me all the way to the top da da da discussing relationships tonight corridor girl how are you doing this is an interesting talk to pop in on so far the conversation has been great we're almost been going 2 hours we're almost at the end of it fantastic conversations sex should not be why you're together should have both and you don't have to have both let's rephrase that I don't think all long-term relationships require sex and sex doesn't need to be in only long-term relationships I think they're just one of the aspects of a relationship that could be incorporated could not be incorporated I have no issues with people wanting to be in a long-term monogamous relationship without sex I've known people like that yeah they were mostly strangers it's just that when I hear about energy exchanges and things like that I find it silly because I felt nothing from casual life here's one thing you could do what are you looking for your name says what are you looking for in at find in your town some place where they're talking about sex or tantra I've taken one workshop in that it wasn't it was okay but that's one place you can start there are other types of workshops sex related workshops where there is you learn a lot there's also I don't want to go into specific but there's different types of workshops you can take in your community to explore a little bit it just could be that you haven't come across someone that you want to immerse yourself in once there are relationships you can get into where you want to immerse yourself in that human being there's a lot to that my problem is I can't get anyone to like me back in a romantic way it's not about getting people to like you you just have to be who you are and they just have to be interested in getting to know you to be around your energy you can't force yourself in anyone I'm in a similar boat I have little to no libido and it has been the downfall of nearly every relationship I've had I just don't really enjoy sex it's more or less chore I do for the sake of my partner here's the thing if you love your partner you guys could take Tantric Workshop and you could learn how to please them right? and if you're in a intimate relationship a relationship that you really care about you should really want to please your partner so if they're into it it's part of a I don't know if you call it a chore but you let it be a part of that relationship and maybe you just have kinks that you haven't explored yet really there are kinks that get people excited I think that after after a year you get hooked and I feel that if someone leaves you get hurt more did you think about the kinks? oh did I think about the kinks that came up again right? kinks let me think about it more sleepy waves or are we oh my god we're getting some stuff I gotta allow I don't know what's going on oh spot of T thank you for being here booty call thank you for allowing that hi spot of T I want to I went to a Tantric Workshop once felt nothing and started crying because I felt broken did you follow up? did you follow up? so if you tried that felt broken because Tantric is really sex focused that's one thing I didn't appreciate about it because it was all about sex which is what it's about so to me sex is more than just sex as I've gotten older I know what that implies right? take there are other types of workshops there are other places you can explore go into the BDMS world if you like right? can I ask if there is an appropriate answer to an interview? I don't want it to sound like I'm throwing people under the bus astronomy guy sure I think so as long as you're not rolling you're not going to go crazy no one has been interested in my energy for 26 years well if you're 26 years old there's absolutely no way you can say no one's been interested in your energy for 26 years maybe in your adulthood which would be coming out of high school 18 so 7 years let's say before that you were teenage years going through puberty insane like teenagers are crazy the hormones kicking in are absolutely insane right? don't give up really don't give up I've been there for a few years I was trying to hook up with people and no one was interested and I was going insane and then all of a sudden something brilliant happens and wow just be patient for different scenes what do you think about people that just use each other for sex like a booty call that's fine, why not you have friends you play pool with booty call might be a little bit more serious but I also don't have much of a the video on for me this is okay I am much more into cuddles and emotional intimacy with people I care about cuddles are amazing post the casket thank you very much added the book in UPUB EPUB EPUB publish format too so you can read it on your phone, computer really awesome that's where I am to cuddles cuddles are cuddles are amazing if both people are into the booty call I say go for it 100% it's fine saying you don't need sex in a relationship but society today is all about sex, you can't get away from it stop watching corporate mainstream media hollywood there are communities that aren't just about sex they're about intimacy right the best relationship I have been in were based on trust having each other's back and enjoying life together good sex was a bonus yeah there's wise guys out there I am telling you I went out to my local bar for a drink, the bartender asked what I want, I told him surprise me he shows me a naked picture of mine that's funny I haven't even been in one of these streams what about I check it out yeah it's funny to you, it's a good stream right now that's fantastic we have one troll that I banned earlier man, I'm totally way behind on the chat I must be going okay Keegan, thanks for popping pie again it was fun, if I ever see you lurking around the lower mainland heads up I'm going to shake you say hi brother have you read or explored the asexuality spectrum at all no, intimacy has so many to magnets different levels, and sex is just only one of those levels but I do relate, how many times how many times forgot this beard how many times for how long has it been since this beard, these things I don't know, probably 4 years now, 5 years maybe my example of relationship is when I participated in the college vet challenge initially when we formed our team the other three members lacked motivation they joined because of extra credit, so I had to think of a way to motivate them my idea was to intricately motivate them intricately motivate them I knew they were smart and competitive people, so I thought by challenging their ideas it would bring the competitive spirit out of them by the end of the competition we created a competitive but friendly environment, to form a better relationship with my team members I would ask them to get coffee or lunch with me, and I try to get to know them on a more personal level by the end of the competition we're all friendly, and I believe this is one of the reasons we play second, awesome astronomy guy no, no worries about apologies, that's great everyone's cheering I do consider myself to be on the asexual spectrum I love intimacy and being close with my partner so I'm not a romantic but any sexual ventures I've tried and I've tried lots of things, it just seems tiresome, I don't know so Magus, would you be okay if your partner wants that interaction out of a relationship to go outside of your relationship to get it love these cheesy jokes I didn't want to believe my partner was stealing traffic signals but when I got home the signals were all there do you think I'm throwing people under the bus by saying they joined because of extra credit no, why? people do many things for extra credit right we did a nice 2 hour stream on relationships my next door neighbor knocked on my door and accused me of stealing her underwear off her clothesline I was so shocked, I nearly just so fantastic funny on that joke should we call the stream gang 2 hour stream, nice stream enjoyed it very much thanks for being here everyone I haven't set up the next stream yet chicho advice for being more confident while dating be open be honest don't judge really appreciate that you don't know everything and there's absolutely no way that you can get to know that person by judging what they like and don't like just be yourself really I'm much older than most of you I'm guessing this didn't come to me naturally when I was in my 20s I've learned this over time and experienced so if you want to become more confident date more or date less find one person you're very comfortable with and just spend time with them don't try to become intimate right off the bat walk, laughing is amazing right thanks magus, great stream sorry I only caught the very end we're gonna do a lot more of these sad I got on this stream so late seemed like a good one it was a good one we had fun have a nice night chicho it's always fun to hang out you guys as well thank you for hooking us up on this this seems fun and interesting thanks for the streams it was good thanks for the great stream see you guys later hope you guys have a fantastic Sunday evening and a fantastic week now some more streams probably Wednesday or Thursday for next week and spot of tea thanks for popping by taking care of some business good day chicho thanks for another stream finish that lick here while you're still on the stream most death, most death bye everyone