 Excellent. Okay so we've got Deb now and she's going to talk about media goblin and she'll undoubtedly fill us in on the subtitle and the meaning of it so over to you. Thanks. I will. Great thanks for having me. I'm gonna toss it over my shoulder so I don't knock it off my face. This is for someone with a much bigger ear. Okay so are people already familiar with media goblin? None. Okay great. Blank sponges. Fantastic. Sorry I'm really trying to keep that on my face. So media goblin is a decentralized hosting service for artists. It's multimedia. It's different from stuff like SoundCloud or YouTube or Flickr or SlideShare or any of those things because instead of being organized by the media type it's organized around the person who's presenting stuff. I know that most artists like they don't only produce stuff in one medium. They tend to have like oh I have some writings over here and I have photos so if you're patients and things like that. And so we wanted to have something that was organized around the creator instead of having siloed go to one place for your sounds and you know because that seems sort of artificial. The other thing that we worked really hard on is it's of course all free software and it's customizable and when I say decentralized it's organized so that you could run a small server and I'll talk a little bit more about that but you would host there. Our first media type was ASCII art because we're nerds and also it's lightweight so we could solve the storage problem after solving the hosting problems. But it now also supports sound and video. Probably folks have seen the Big Buck Bunny from the Blender Foundation stuff and we also support 3D modeling. So this is like kind of our little mascot with the artist beret there and folks can share their 3D models and then use the files to print them out or tweak them if that's you know if the model itself is licensed in a way that's shareable. And just this past year we added hosting papers and documentation of different types formatted and nice and rather than just kind of a big spill of WordPress stuff. And you might have noticed like so the ones that I showed you so far are kind of the dark gray with white text but because it's customizable you can build your own. This is one of the themes that one of our current users and contributors put up which she calls Sandy 70s. So it's kind of this like species 70s font and then made it like a nice bright but not you know stark white kind of background. So then there are other there are other themes like on other instances so if you wanted to have it look a certain way for your work you could customize or maybe pick another thing that someone else has got. The other thing like I said decentralized so when you use YouTube it's all in one umbrella it's just one huge entity that owns and lets you host all of your things. And it's the same with Flickr it's the same with SoundCloud. The goal for me at Goblin is for lots of small nodes to talk to each other. It turns out that hosting a lot of different media types was easier problem to solve than having a lot of small nodes talk to each other so we're still working on the small nodes talking to each other. A little bit more about us it's a GNU project so we're one of the only GNU projects that is not something that goes into a distribution. So that created some special problems particularly all the GNU projects are supposed to compile with make and since we're a web service that doesn't really make any sense for us but we got exceptions. Also one of the few projects in the world so that's are people familiar with the AGPL? It's like the GPL but for the web so a lot of companies that use free software have that free software on their own server so they don't share back their changes but with AGPL code it's shared to anyone who comes to your website. So we chose this kind of free software license for the web because we want other people to use it and we want other people to improve it and share it and you know give us their comments. This is really sorry. Can you guys hear me mostly when it's not on my face? Okay I'll just it's just for a much much bigger ear. Oh yeah that would be great thank you. Okay cool so you might you might ask yourself like you know why why do I want a decentralized service instead of like a giant centralized service you know so there's a lot of reasons for that. There we go. Can you guys hear me now? All right great. It's because it's responsive and when I say responsive has anyone ever tried to like get YouTube or Flickr to do something for them? Had that work out? Yeah yeah right yeah they because they actually they don't really care but so when I say responsive it's one we're just a bunch of folks so you can always come into the Media Goblin channel and be like hey why why can I only upload like 20 photos at a time like my camera holds 200 can can I do that and we were like oh yeah great that's yeah maybe we can do that so we're very responsive but not when the NSA calls which is kind of a little different and if you're hosting your own media goblin instance then it's up to you to decide what you want to tell the NSA or what's the equivalent in New Zealand. Yeah okay so instead of calling like one you know massive service to say like we don't like this you know content or we would like to have all the content and calling like just you know like ten different companies like call up YouTube call Flickr call Gmail and be like we'd like all the content and you know because we're the NSA and and that leaves the individual like kind of stuck you know you're you don't really have any no one has your rack so when you have a small instance the goal is to be so legion that they like are you kidding me we have to make 3,000 phone calls now to get all the content and it's climbing every year right that's the goal so we actually want to be a pain in the butt for the NSA the other thing is that when when you have like a giant hosting service they have these terms of service which may be kind of arbitrary or they may be for really specific reasons but you can write your own terms of service if you're running your own instance so like we have different folks in our community that run different types of content like there's you know we have a lot of pictures of hacker babies and that's like really nice and then we have over here a little weird or anime art which is like you know slightly different like what you're allowed to post and that's totally fine we we encourage everyone to provide the service that they want for their community or maybe just for their household so we have a lot of just one household type of things the other thing that having a small service means it's up to you if you want to run automated copyright takedown has anyone run a foul of this type of a thing where like you posted something and then it got yeah it's super fun did you try to contest it and get it put back mm-hmm because what they what the the large content providers have is they run a script and if they hit any words like if you're like this was a Mickey Mouse operation like Disney just like take that down until we get a chance to look at it you know so it's they have like these triggers that they look for and then they automatically take down suspected copyrighted material which so this happened to the open movie from the Blender Foundation I forget what the word there was some word in there that they thought oh maybe maybe that belongs to Sony and it's like really it seems like we spent thousands of hours on the animation for that so I don't know how could but you know and it was it was like something in like some collection of words that just twigged the Sony's automatic takedown script and then it was like yep please take that off YouTube until we get chance to look at it it's back up now it took some time so for stuff that like you can see you know like central is it's it's a fantasy cartoon type of thing but for political commentary if you're like oh I want to show this clip of the news show and provide timely commentary and then it's like oh please take that down it belongs to the news station and then like two months later like oh okay you can have your now completely untimely commentary on copyrighted news programming so that there's some issues there and having one giant service where they're like the number of employees that can deal with those kinds of requests like there's just no money in it for them they're never gonna do it I don't know if people know there's there's like a it's not more slaughtered it's something else about like the number of users to the number of employees at any given software service that you might use has gone like you know where it's like ten million users to like three employees and it used to be like a hundred users to two employees and so the ability to respond when you're running a giant cloud service like this it's just like it's just not gonna happen which is why we think that the way to go forward is smaller stuff so so you can kind of see like the way that this would go differently where like everyone is in charge of their own node they deal with their own copyright takedown notices and they can decide what they you know how they want to handle them and if it's something where they're like oh we think that that might you know be a content that would you know jeopardize someone or it's illegal or something you can if it's your friend running the server they might be like hey I got this call you might want to decide what you want to do about that so so that's kind of what we want to provide is a more democratic web just so you kind of know who we are we're free software activists Chris Weber and I started working on this project he's the technical lead and I work on our outreach stuff and Chris used to work at a creative commons and is very interested in providing services for artists to share and you know free software tools that folks can use I worked at the free software foundation for a number of years my background before that like I have a degree in painting and singing bands like all kinds of stuff so we really want this to be not like a software just for software people if that makes sense so you can there's a picture of us not me but other folks we're also part of a W3C working group that's the Tim Burners Lee organization so in addition to working on having you know decentralization for our own stuff we want to create a standard that a lot of different services can use so we're working with the folks at pump.io with the identica stuff I don't people using identica or the pump pump dog or something it's like the free software micro blog and the folks at Indie Web and so this would be a standard that could be used by GNU social it could be used by friendica and some service that doesn't even exist yet so we wanted to create a Python library that any sort of decentralized service could use to handle the Federation part which as I mentioned is the part that's more of a pain in the butt than hosting media so not just for us and you know so that's that's kind of where we're where we're going forward so we're having those conversations we want to have an official standard sanctioned by the W3C that federated social services can use for media for whatever who knows maybe we'll have smello vision in the future we can support that too so we're working on trying to prevent the sad and it is not actually need of kittens although some of that seems like way just this is kind of the technical specs on it so it's it's Python it's an SQL database and then Chris decided we should write our own Django like framework from scratch and then the Pio library which is the one that will be usable by anybody we chose SQL because it's kind of funny actually because we had started with manga we had like a lot of no SQL fans in our community but it turns out that the newer stuff is built for bigger servers and it doesn't scale down gracefully which is a kind of a funny thing when most people talking about databases are looking for stuff to scale up so hosting a lot of small nodes means it has to be able to scale down so SQL it is and it's it's pluginable we've been very careful about making it such you know that you can take one chunk of the code without like kind of pulling the whole thing up and be able to use those plugins in different ways and we want people if there's new media types that we haven't thought of like a you know probably not smello vision I think that's gone the way of the jetpack but it's you know some new media type that might come up we would be able to support that so so how can you guys help I'm so glad you asked right so you can always give us money idea this is the artists and musician tracks I don't really expect to get giant checks here but you know not that we'll turn them down but we're actually we're mostly funded we've done two crowdfunding campaigns we raised over $120,000 for that some grants some weird ones for like governments that wanted us to build a way for them to serve like their pictures on their websites and things like that it was the Icelandic government wanted that just cool and some customization work where people have wanted like can you guys do a little bit more work on the subtitles for people who can't hear so so we you know we've been pulling money in that way if you know someone that would want to hire us for that stuff let us know but you know more so than money this is probably more of a time or complaints we actually really like to hear complaints or feedback I guess if you want to put more kind of positively so like most software projects we need folks to help us with all of the you know user testing bug triage documentation blogging promotion all of that kind of stuff but especially what we want is more artists and musicians because as I said before we really want this to be a project that is not software for software people so we're we've been working really hard to make it something that regular folks can use hosting your own server unfortunately is not yet trivial so we've been pursuing a couple of different avenues for making that easier we've been working with the sandstorm high of IO folks who are working on making it their building software to abstract the kind of nuts and bolts of serving your own service so they've you know they have been doing that for not just for us but a number of other free software projects that you might want to host your own of like and if you wanted to have your own identical server there's that they have a whole list so they're working on making it really nice to abstract the twiddly bits of serving sandstorm IO and they're they're great we really want it to be super easy to install another avenue that we've been pursuing is talking to different new Linux distributions and seeing can can we get it packaged so that you can run it off your laptop and have it come you know so you can just get it like app get or yum or whatever and then have media goblin as a server running along with the rest of your distribution so we've been looking at that there's a couple of little nuts and bolts in there if you run if you work on a distribution besides fedora or debian who are already talking with and want to help with packaging media goblin let me know because we'd be super excited to be on all the distros and then yeah so that's kind of what we're looking for we really do want your feedback if you want to come in and tell us like what's missing what's what's not there yet what would make it awesome basically anything you can think of that would stop you from wholeheartedly recommending this to your less technically savvy musician and artist friends we want to hear it so I'm afraid I spoke really quickly because I've drank too much coffee but now more time for questions so if you folks have questions I'd be happy to answer them any questions oh maybe if the Wi-Fi is working the question was about a demo site yeah so you can go to actually media goblin org has which was the one up here so media goblin org has that's one and then the J Pope one and there's a list of some other demonstration sites so it's a there different ones have different mixes of media types because of what that person is interested in sharing and you know and some of them are because it's free software and customizable some of them are different levels of shared to the public because you can there's something between everyone and unlike most web services so but yeah if you go to media goblin org you shouldn't find at least there are main site and then I think there's a list of some other ones too and I brought stickers but I don't have my they're in my suitcase which didn't arrive yet but if you see me later this week I would be happy to share some media goblin stickers anyone else are you guys ready to test it or give me complaints feedback awesome okay cool thanks so much thanks dad