 Today on the breakfast, Shaguoni has taken a swipe at Iofio Ishe and the People's Democratic Party alleging rigging in the Iquiti State PDP primaries. We have party members from both sides on the programme this morning. Also, the Joint Admission and Matriculation Board has announced the introduction of two new subjects. We look at the implication of these. Of course, we cannot have a complete menu on the breakfast this morning without those juicy headlines from the Najno dailies. These and more ahead on the breakfast right here on Plus TV Africa. Very good morning to you. It's another day of interesting discussions right here on Plus TV Africa. We're glad to have you. My name is Kofi Bartels. And I am Messia Bopo. It's a beautiful, very first day in the month of February. So it's okay to say happy new month and welcome to February. January actually finished very fast. Oh yes. It couldn't have finished faster than it did, Mercy. We were just waiting. Fast as January. We were like, carry your halago. Why is it always like that though? I really don't know. But you know that time is actually a human factor. Yes. So it's just in the mind. By the way, happy new month. Fast as it is. And you're radiating, glowing. Amazing. Amazing. Okay, when you say glowing. Wow, wow, wow. Which stories have we been looking at? I mean, of course Nigerians having conversations online and what we try to do is to bring some of those conversations on the program. Yesterday, it was the day of intrigues, really. Like a roller coaster day. I'm sure you followed the declarations on the different platforms. Yes, I did. Which one did you watch? Well, so a couple of declarations. And you also have the governor of Canada State, if I'm not mistaken, Amino Tamboal. Yes, Sokoto State. Sokoto State? Yes, yes, yes. Okay, Sokoto State. Who's actually made his declaration. I mean, that's because you have a lot of persons, you know, declaring their intention to become president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. It's quite interesting because first of all, as a Nigerian, it's a constitutional right. Everyone has a right to contest. And I mean, everyone has a right to vote and be voted for. That's what has been stated in the constitution. So it's okay. It just makes it more interesting. And people say that's the beauty of democracy. Democracy, yes. I mean, for those of us in the media, we'll be doing this. We're rubbing our hearts because, you know, it's what we live for. We want to see these things, the declarations. We want to see activity, you know, maybe a bit of a distraction from the negativity in the news these days. Yes, so keep us, keep us instructed. How does that really even keep you away from, you know, the negativity? Because you have something you need to talk about, you know. Let's do on the ice and meet the effect of the hardship and the bad news and negative news of Nigerians. I realized something, Mercy. I moved into Lagos State from outside Lagos State. Lagos is the center of entertainment in Nigeria. Do you know why it is the, the height of entertainment is in Lagos State? Because the height of stress is in Lagos State. Okay, so that's your theory. Yeah, people are looking for what to use to counter that stress. So you could play some blast music in the market in some other parts of the country. People would just be walking by. But go to Lagos, go to maybe Oshodi or Balindi and blast that same music. People would just start dancing. So, I think it's a welcome distraction from, you know, some of the negative news and the reports. And also, we in the media, we want to see this. We just want to report, we want to interview the guests. But more important, Nigerians have been talking. You know, Tamboa made his declaration yesterday. His name has been one of those names that has been out there. You know, for some time, I'm sure you'd agree. You know, it's been somewhere around there. And of course, he's been very influential as the chairman of the PDP Governors Forum. And then the process that led to the emergence of IU as the chairman of the PDP in that Congress, you can see the Governors had a big role to play. And Tamboa seemed to be a uniting factor, you know, bringing all the disagreeing sides together. Even with the uncertainty that followed the Uche Secundus episode. And then the role that Yeson Wike played in all of that. And you can, if you remember, some Governors were siding with Uche Secundus. It was Tamboa, you know, as leader of the PDP's Governors Forum, who was able to bring all these sides together. And you can see, it turned away for the PDP's Governors Forum meetings. You know, they had that, if you remember, the press conferences with that address. And Tamboa was there. You know, so all the disagreeing sides, you know, all the Governors who were going away, and we're not happy with Wike, you know, this perception of those of us outside. And we're able to come together. And Tamboa, his name has been around there, you know. So another person that also made, you know, a declaration is from a governor of Emo State, Rocha's Accord Char, who's also stepped out. That's also generating a lot of conversation. And, you know, for the street language, some people say you just remind five people. It does remind five people. We'll never declare for president. Well, it does make it very interesting. Now, for the PDP, you seem to have a lot of persons who have come out to declare your interest than the one who run for, you know, the office of the president. And the question would not be, will the party elect you? Would you be the flag bearer of the party? Because now that, you know, from being, from the fact that you are declaring your interest, you also have to look at the issue of internal politics and democracy. Yes, indeed. If you know the party will actually deem your faith in your country and all of that. Yes, indeed. So this is what's going on, the fingers across. So we're also keeping fingers crossed and anticipating that you have more persons making declarations and wanting to become president. Yes, but indeed, indeed, it was another day. I mean, Rocha's Accord Char is a seasoned politician. You know, if you need to have followed him over the years to know that he has always nursed this ambition to be president. I think if I'm not mistaken, he grew up under the tutelage of one of the prominent politicians in the southeast. If I'm not mistaken, Shibu Nambia Zikwa, I need to check. I need to check. But if you've been following Rocha's from Nigeria's return to the early days of this republic, I think in 2003 or 2007, I'm sure in 2007, he made it. He was part of those who contested for the presidential ticket. I think of the PDP if I'm not mistaken. But if I also am not mistaken, in 2003, he was out there for another party. I think he must be at ANPP, one of those PP parties that we had back in the day. So Rocha's Accord Char has me. He only stepped down a bit to go down to a lower level of ambition, which is the governorship. But he has been at least two times, if not once, twice a candidate or an aspirant and he's contested a party primary. I need to check, but it should be once or twice. So I remember watching his speeches back in the day years ago. This man is sounding like an American. So he's had that motivation. You can sense it. In his speech yesterday, because he advertised it on his social media platforms, he said he was going to stream it. His speech yesterday sounded like, I have a dream. Oh yes, yes, yes. His speech sounded like I have a dream. Nigerian version. Senator Rocha's Accord Char said, I'm not going to speak in his script. I'm speaking from my mind. That shows I... But one thing... Yeah, please. So one thing I know Rocha's Accord Char for, that I've always known him. I haven't ever known him as a politician, but as a philanthropist. That was when I was quite young. Watching the television, seeing documentaries of him, philanthropy work and all of that, doing a lot of charity work. Philanthropy, you say? Yes. So that's what I know him for. But so along the line, then I started thinking that maybe this was also a stone, a stepping stone to him wanting to be involved in politics. That's what worked. That's what you felt? No, that's what I felt recently, in recent times. Now on hindsight that he may have used that to... Because he was involved... To be the hearts of Nigerians, right? Exactly. So because if you want to talk about Rocha's Accord Char, I mean I would want to go back to when I was still a teenager, or there about. And then you begin to see that he did a lot of philanthropic works and he was just all about giving people helping and the aged and all of that. He was just quite astounding. And then I said who was this... I kept on asking questions. Then all of a sudden there's a Rocha's who's saying he wants to become president. So remember those days of his presidential ambition, right? He made some interesting statements. For instance, he said that... What do you call it again? He said that he was poor. He was never poor outside politics. He was wealthy before he became a politician. So he said. He also said that he's not a candidate of zoning. He said he's not a candidate of zoning. And if you can look at the speech he made, he said a lot of things about the unity of Nigeria. He's even said to have recited a verse of the Quran. Yes, yes. I think he speaks Hausa. But he also said he's not in politics. I'm not in politics for what I can... I mean politics rather for what I can give. In other words, he's not in politics for what he can get. Because he said he actually... I think there's some part where he said is Richard Alimo State. He says all him, I think it's 8 billion Naira. Yes, all him 8 billion Naira. The state owes him 8 billion Naira. So that's what he said. But the thing is, his declaration held at about 1 p.m. if I'm not mistaken. That's when I actually swiped to see the... But then at about 4 p.m. I saw another headline. EFCC charges, which is a court charge. 2.9 billion Naira missing from state coffers. 17 count charge. I said, what is going on? What is going on? So at night, I listened to him. I watched him. And he sounded really not too happy. Not too happy. And the four charges against him, he denied them. He's saying that there's no proof. He's called on judiciary to be firm. He said that they should not rush to take things like this. And I think deep down he feels unhappy that his day was cut off. Everyone would actually feel like that. But it's okay if you have an invitation. You have to respect it. And I'm sure the law would actually take its course. If it's not guilty, then of course he would actually be let go. But someone said he should have waited till 1st February at least. Let him enjoy his day. And then use these charges, happy new month for him. But well, let's see what happens. What's happening with Skidmaker Bayou? Well, the issue with Skidmaker Bayou is the fact that he's been accused of having to ask some funds. I don't know if to put a word, funds for some sexual pleasure before. I really can't put my hand on top of that. Okay, so this is some sort of apology for his past deeds of demanding sex from ladies to feature in his skids. I like Bayou. Bayou is in recent time one of the few comedians out there. I don't really watch all these things all the time, you understand? But since I came to Lagos, I've increased the hours I spend watching the skids. Bayou is one of the comedians on Instagram who has made me laugh that I almost fell on the ground. I mean, it's hilarious, really, really. So to hear that he is apologizing or that there are allegations of him demanding sex for ladies to feature in his skids, I think that it's good he has come out to apologize. But the details of this for me would not lie in speculations. There were screenshots of him asking for sex from ladies to feature in his skids which emerged online, screenshots. And this is just probably a lesson to the young people, especially with the men, that whatever you do online may always come back to haunt you. So you have to be careful and you have to do the right thing. So some of the ladies shared the screenshots of their conversations with him, especially the moments he asked and begged for inappropriate videos and photos. But the message is fair. A guy chats with you and is asking you, send me a picture of yourself and maybe a nudie and all that. And then he becomes a star, he blows up, all you know is a star and you screenshot and save it. And after a while, release it. So whether it's fair or not depends on who is actually going to define all of that. But I haven't really been a fan of people asking for sexual pictures or nude pictures. It doesn't really make sense to me. That's my personal opinion. And I feel like if you actually attracted to a particular person sexually, it would be okay to have your conversations and get straight to the crux of the matter. So what's the idea of you sharing pictures? Because for me, I always think about the future. So I'm here, I'm thinking about the future and what happens in the future. What if I have some... Yes, I know that our society in Nigeria hasn't evolved to that particular position where we begin to hold political leaders or people accountable for their actions over time. We haven't got to that part because we find a lot of politicians, a lot of people who are vying for political officers who have been accused of one action or the other that are not morally right and this is a moral issue. So what I'm saying is for me, my concern is it's a no-no. Because for me, I feel like a lot can actually happen. There's something you say sometimes here, which is that you ask you, what would you do? You say it's not you, you say... I think it's one of those situations. Now, you and I have a moral standard, okay? You have yours, I have mine. You may not believe in drinking or smoking, someone does. If this guy asks these ladies for screenshots or he begs them for videos. Number one, he's saying he's begging them for videos. Can I have a screenshot? Can. If he was, can I, online, send me something, can I see... He may not say that I was wrong. People do what he calls sexting. If that is how they live their lives. If you save that, you say no and you move on. And you save that. And then years on the line release it, he asks me for nudies and all that. That's blackmail. Sorry? That's blackmail. It means that you have an evil intent. Because someone asked you, he asked you. It could be like, maybe you say, okay, can we meet up and make up? You say no and then you save it and then one day you release it. What are you reasoning for? You want to disgrace him. It's blackmail. There must be a reason. Okay? When there's sexual harassment, sexual harassment, then of course that is not acceptable. We've seen what's happening with Missing Greenwood. Okay? We've seen what's happening with Missing Greenwood and that of course has been condemned. But if it's just a request and you say no, then you move on. Okay, so that's one. That's one. Then you have, because I really do not like judging situations, especially, you know, Atul Usami, you know, or the said, this woman, Messia Aigbe, I will be the last person to judge Messia Aigbe because I do not know the details. And I'm not there when they close their doors. People will jump on it and say, Messia is a husband and snatcher. So Kofi, let's even come to the factor because we don't have time, right? And before I even got into this conversation, I said, this is what I think about it. It's my opinion and that's my stand. I don't indulge. I have been institutional. A couple of persons would ask for it. And I'm like, no, it doesn't make sense. I don't even fancy it. And that's me. That's me. And I can't judge everybody by that standard. But let's even bring it back to what we're talking about. The issue of saying the reason that you're asking is so that you can actually engage them in your skits. So that's the second part now. So that's what the question lies. Because both times, you find a lot of people, I mean, we talk about a lot of issues. For me, I say that there are so many Nigerians who don't have a moral justification to talk about issues, not to even call the president. So some of the things that the president is not doing. Some of us should not even talk about it. The thing about it is mercy. No, it's not a matter of who. I mean, there are things that some people would actually have strength over. And others would not even have the strength over. My point is exactly this. If we talk about sex for grade, I know you are very conversant with that phrase and all of that statement and the conversation. People would say, you need to get sex before you're given a particular grade. That's also a big argument. I don't know if you understand. So that's already one on its own. And so we can't even be having, because some of these people are also agitating and pushing the cost. Oh, you can't do that. But they're doing differently. But for me, we need to go now. The practice of asking people who say, oh, I want to feature in your skit or your committee to give you sex before you allow them to feature is wrong. That one is 100%. There's no debate about it. So it's the same thing. That's what I'm saying, that those who champion the cost against sex for grades might also, in different orders, fear of their lives where they are in control, asking for the same thing and it doesn't make sense. So if it's a different thing, if you have some consensual agreement with the lady, you approach and you guys get to a point where you have an understanding and then you begin to get into that because there would be an offer and there would be a take. The circumstances for me, like I said, if he has asked these ladies to give him sex, just to have a role in his skit. What if he didn't feature the lady? Excuse me, sorry, let me lie. It's wrong. We shouldn't be seeing people get roles simply because they... It must be a merit. It must be a merit. And I think given the knowledge we've all condemned or a lot of people have condemned that, a director will ask you for sex for he or she gives you. It's seen, it's wrong. It's wrong. But I'm not taking someone's screenshot. If he was having a conversation with you, just a casual conversation and what he calls sexting, you understand, not demanding or asking and you screenshot that and you put it out, I am against that. I'm against blackmail, you understand. But if it's about asking the accent, say you must give me this before I give you a role, that's wrong. And I think it's good he has come out to apologize and I think he needs not to do that again. Even champion of course to speak against that. We have to go, we have to go. We have more coming up. Of course we'll be speaking about the ATPP primary, the aspirants have been clashing over our legs, rigging and the jump issue, mercy in two new subjects introduced by the joint admissions and matriculation board. But before that let's look at what the papers have to say on the breakfast.