 to MH370. Well as the search continues questions have been raised about the need to advance search technology. More than 50 aviation, communications and law experts have come together with the Malaysian government in Kuala Lumpur for two days of talks on the issue of real-time monitoring of flight data. Well leading the delegation on behalf of the International Telecommunications Union is Malcolm Johnson and he joins me now from Kuala Lumpur. Malcolm, thank you very much for being with us. Just tell us what you're hoping to achieve at these talks. Yes well today of course we're also well connected and we have cloud computing and big data so it's very difficult for the public to understand why 11 weeks after MH370 disappeared we still don't know exactly what happened and that we have to recover the black box in order to retrieve the data. So Malaysian government asked the ITU to organize this dialogue between experts from all the various interests to look at how we could develop international standards, policies and regulations to make sure this doesn't happen again. So it's quite a unique event because we have the aircraft manufacturers, we have the airlines, avionic companies, the ICT companies, software developers and all the relevant international bodies here to discuss how we can develop the the requirements to ensure that we download this data from the flight in real time and we don't need to have to recover the black box in the future. Yeah I mean what we're talking about Malcolm is real-time tracking solutions, real-time tracking of the black box data but but why has it taken a situation like MH370 for your union for example to come together to lead this delegation of talks I mean why haven't you done this before? Well the Malaysian government asked the ITU to do it because we the lead UN agency for information and communication technologies we also have IKO here which specifies the requirements for onboard systems. What we do have the technology, the technology is currently available and there are several systems available now for tracking aircraft that have been implemented on many aircraft. In fact some governments now are requiring this and some airlines are voluntarily fitting it. The problem is that there are four or five different proprietary systems and there's no international standard that will ensure that we have worldwide interoperability and compatibility so that it's a global system and this is the issue we need to address. If we download in the data we have to decide on who's going to be the custodian for this data. Sure I know, forgive me for interrupting you Malcolm but you know if families are listening to this interview of the people that were onboard the Malaysian's airliner that would be little consolation to them to know that this hasn't been rolled out. I mean is this about money what is this actually about I mean what are you hoping to achieve are we going to see this finally being implemented the way it should be? Yes I believe so from the discussion we've had this week it's clear that it's possible now to track aircraft the position of aircraft and the altitude we have that technology available and it's going to be implemented very very soon. What will be more difficult is to download all the data that's collected on a plane in real time for the reasons I've just mentioned but we've had all these experts come together and there's a very positive mood to move forward to instigate an international effort to ensure that the likes of MH370 never happen again. Thank you very much for joining us we do hope that there is a constructive solution to the talks you're taking part in Malcolm Johnson there from the ITU and we should just say that these talks are due to end with the Malaysian government later on today any developments on that we will of course bring that to you live here on BBC News. In other news for you though let's move to Egypt where polls have closed on the first day of voicing.