 Classic WoW is probably the most popular this game has been since launch. The queue times are absolutely ridiculous. You're getting 20k queues every day on benediction alone on the server that I play Alliance on. You're now you're getting I think last night it hit what 910k on Sky Fury the new fresh server. So the queues are getting insanely out of hand. I want to try and kind of brainstorm and come up with some ideas for for good legitimate solutions to how to fix this problem or really not how to fix the problem but but I guess what should Blizzard do in order to counteract these queues they've already opened up free transfers to some servers but the servers they've opened free transfers to people seem to not really want to go play there so it's not working uh at least not at a very high rate I would like to go and I would like to come up with some ideas maybe with chat okay that's why I'm doing this on stream and uh kind of pick people's brains and see if it's like okay wait this will work and I want to try to talk to some people at Blizzard about it and see if if we can kind of help uh help them come up with a good solution the queues are almost like a um it's its own feedback loop because what happens is whenever you have the queues being so long people will go to additional lengths to not log off because they don't want to send the queue whenever they want to log back on later right it is similar to like a self-fulfilling prophecy or whatever right it's it's like a it's like a positive feedback loop whatever whatever you want to call it like it's all the same thing the queues themselves cause the queues to be even longer because people will go to additional lengths to not try and log off because uh they don't want to queue whenever they log back in thus causing the queues to be even longer there we go there's no queue on benediction right now yes but it's also 11 19 am on a Wednesday so uh most people in America are either at work at school or uh asleep actually it's 11 20 frick you're right now changed there's actually a five minute queue right now in benediction that's crazy instead of having server queues or forcing transfers why doesn't blizzard just super glue the server blades together to make super big mega servers so everyone can play easy true good point uh everyone wanting to play with their streamer is the queue problem no it's it literally has nothing to do with it i think i think it is it is so awfully disconnected to to associate queues with their streamer especially when it comes to servers like benediction and feralina why because what streamer is playing on benediction they all quit almost everybody quit asma doesn't play on benediction chance doesn't play on benediction stay safe doesn't play on benediction i play on benediction but like i've been here for nine months streamers have nothing to do with it i think it's i think it's there are other streamers right but like let's be honest there's there's one streamer that uh demands a a a huge audience of people that just obsessively like gather around them like flies and that's asman right super weird i don't know i don't get it asman doesn't get it nobody gets it right it's just it is what it is but it's not like that for chance even it's not like that for me i mean it wasn't a problem until pre-patch absolutely and the reason why is because benediction people want to go to the biggest party this is the problem people want to go to the biggest party so they want to go where they think they have the most opportunity to play with the most amount of people where i can get groups the easiest i can i can find arena partners to pv with for the pvp community if you're a pvp here there's two servers to play on essentially there's benediction fairly no if you want to be competitive those are the two places where you can go and you can find people to play with and you can arena with if you don't already have your team preset there are some other good teams from other servers there's a good team from i think grobulous i've seen a good team from from white mate there's other goods there's other teams there's a service with good teams but it's like one or two versus the the overwhelming majority of good teams being horde feralina and benediction alliance anyone got pineapple yes i do have pineapple i think coming up with solutions to the q problem in classic wow i think we have to go at it with some sort of like constants right some assumptions we're going to go ahead and assume that they can't add more layers and yeah they can yeah they can we don't know that i feel like blizzard would be completely freaking stupid to not have the most simple solution which is add more layers zero iq to not just add more layers if they could i wanted the assumption that they've already gone and they've added as many layers they can i genuinely believe that they can't add more layers let's start with that assumption okay okay hardware limitations are reached they have zero money at all they can't just buy more server space whatever they just can't do it right that's it what other assumptions can we make it isn't just a blizzard thing let's talk about the community assumptions players are gathering on view servers because they want to play with the most people wait blade of misfortune sarah fortune wait that's op hold on um i will trade you scenario embracers for a blade of misfortune very good nice you're also forgetting that we have to assume blizzard has already tried sexually harassing the servers all those people are fired okay let's be fair all those people are gone actually most of those people were already fired before then this is brian birmingham the short version is these realms are already five times the size of the 2005 realms if everybody in q went to a new realm they'd film that realm up too so what does that mean in vanilla server cap was 3000 five times so what he's saying here essentially is there's five layers and there is a whole full server of people worth five layer server of people or worth of people sitting in queue for benediction in the screenshot player a software architect they need to change the way instances battlegrounds and dungeons are run instead of running on the realm server they dynamically allocate server space on the flight to run the instance then they can just add hardware as needed when a realm slash region gets popular that's not a solution of something that they can do like this week and i don't know i don't know how it's run right i don't i have no idea how it's run i'm trying to come up with a a solution what can you do to make people want to transfer off of these big servers to reduce the queues what would get you to transfer that is a good that is a good place to start and i think that's a good place to start for everybody think for yourself what would get you to transfer i've thought about this i think one solution to reduce the sky fury queue this is only for sky fury because sky viewer and a nine k person queue add another fresh pp oh i have an idea of eip log in priority pass tiered cost structure for priority log in status thank you blizzard ceo that's a great idea sky fury is the na west pvp fresh i was added add another fresh pvp server on east coast with free transfers from sky fury to uh na east fresh whatever it's called ground okay uh i like that let's call it ground chill now you have another fresh pvp server and you put it on east coast instead of west coast and you offer free transfers from sky fury to this new fresh i think that there's not really enough of a community established to where you're really like hurting or fracturing communities or whatever if you give people the opportunity to move to this other server i think that this is not enough in addition to free transfer to ground chill right i think you have to give more incentive for people to want to transfer and i think that incentive comes from the boosted xp rate being so for me that was a huge i i don't really want to level again but given there's a boosted xp rate i think if you give people an even a higher boosted xp rate on on this ground chill server take it from 50% to 100% i think that would be a big time thing to get people to try and move so not only are you putting it on east coast you increase the xp rate to plus 100% until wrath on this server until wrath launch i think this would actually pull a a significant number of people from sky fury to this ground chill server the reason why i think it'll pull more people to transform sky fury to ground chill is because most of the people who are affected negatively by the queue situation time is very valuable to them they have jobs they have normal working schedules they go to school so now not only are you giving them an opportunity to play on a different server where they might not have a queue but also on top of that you're increasing their xp rate even more which makes their valuable time even uh it increases the value of their time spent in the game i love that classic has just become a massive private server well you're kind of right the same thing happened in the private server community people all congregated onto one big private server there was always one per like at a time there was always one that was just that was the king nastarius elysium lights hope like that that is one server is king people want to play with the most amount of people and that's just it that's how it works have we completely ruled out having sex with the servers nobody is having sex with anybody okay there's no sex create a second pressure and merge them x weeks after launch make all names take them from first server so there's no merge conflict huh i glitch i wonder if that's possible all names taken on sky fury will also be reserved on ground chill people will abuse the 100% and end up transferring off eventually leaving servers dead again personal take uh so you can't transfer off for three months this 100% to 50% xp rate uh going until wrath launch which is less than three more weeks is not going to make it it has no impact on that has no impact on that if the servers die after wrath launch as people go back and play on their main servers then you can merge the servers after some time with no concern about uh naming conflicts or anything you would merge them into whichever server is most populated east or west wouldn't dungeon finder being cross realm less than the feeling you need to be on a mega server dude see this is what i'm saying like when when people talked about years ago no changes and slippery slope and all this stuff i was one of the people that was you have to account for the times people play the game differently there there's different tech there's different just everything is different and there's some changes that need to be made to to account for all the knowledge people have and yada yada yada over time blizzard has actually finally opened up to this however now all of a sudden when we're talking about sharding and cross play and that that is a genuine slippery slope when does it end situation not the kind of stuff most of the kind of stuff that people were talking about three years ago the pvp community plays the game differently than the average players i think most people who play this game they they find people to play with they they join a guild they raid with their guild their guild is a loot council or a or a dkp or i still think that is the most traditional common way that people play this game great news i got a job at blizzard for my idea everything was going well i had superglute three server blades together to make a big mega server but then fucking david from accounting came in and stuck his dick in the server blades and broke it thanks a lot david i'll keep you updated that's good that's good stuff very good keep keep me up to date on that very good i said that people want to play with the most amount of people right and these a bunch of these little factors including the pvpers including the pvpers adds to that and because it's not just pvpers it's people that want to play with uh them like have the uh join the best guilds there's people that want to just have a large pool of people to to play with it's not just pvpers it's a really constructive great job i do i'm trying really hard i started watching on the first day of classic beta you were half asleep eating a corn dog are you serious i was not half asleep i was completely asleep i was sleeping so this is what i think is is a good solution for fresh suggestions for everywhere this is one that that i'm kind of timid on but i think it's a good solution for arenas maybe battlegrounds i've actually already actually already mentioned this to somebody at blizzard retail pvp system is an overwhelmingly welcome change for the pvp community uh uh this would not make a huge impact but it would help for head help for the players that only play on benediction slash feralina that only play there to pvp with people most people are looking for partners off platform and discord communities etc so now they can play on sulfuris for example and queue with someone from benediction i don't think it is a good idea for us to have cross server grouping for raids and dungeons i feel like this happened in retail and it's one of the key components one of the key things that years ago people said started to fracture server communities why pvp but not pve the reason why i think you should for pvp is because they added the new retailer rena system which gets rid of preset teams and the nature of like the the player behavior of how pvp is play is is it's different than how pve is play and how i mean really just how most of the community of the game i think if you can do cross server handmade dungeoners not dungeon finder okay i don't really know i think you could give people more xp if they server transfer you could offer people a free month of game time which that's a lot i feel like that that's one that is probably least likely to happen like if you transfer to a dead server you get a free month of game time for transferring as well um like a credit or something people have to have a reason to do something like like yeah i think i think that's not worth it to most people too the the free month exactly like sitting in the queue because the queue is going to be temporary or not so that can be this long forever right people will just quit people have to go back to work you know and people have only so much day off days off right yeah and honestly people are motivated by being able to achieve something like that's just life in general people are motivated by achievements what can you give people an opportunity to achieve the transfer to a dead i mean it's already like i keep saying the phrase dead server it's just it's just way less oh you know what they need to do you ready what okay this might piss a lot of people off but in the current state every three hours they need to disconnect everyone from the server i'm dead serious i thought the same thing this morning i was like what if they just did a force restart bro i can guarantee you 80 percent of people in q or afk and like 50 percent of people online are afk just so they can play later if they want to just disconnect everyone and i guarantee everyone gets to play i think i've been playing and i've been dc'd right and then i've always gotten to play right away i've never not been able to play yeah after the dcs well because you have you have like five minutes of grace period or something or like three minutes i don't know what it is but there's some degree of like grace period if you're if you dc while afk or sorry if you dc while playing yeah so if they're afk and they're not actually there then yeah exactly like that would suck for the people that are remote desktoping but i know but those people are also the remote desktop problem yeah they're also part of the problem i mean myself include i mean i've i've remote desktop before dude yesterday i cued before i left to go do iro with bonnie i came back and i sold a 1000 person queue like four hours later five hours later almost i think the force restart every every three hours is not a bad idea i can't particularly think of anything else right now off the top of my head some of you guys have had some good suggestions on seven chat and we we kind of we kind of went we we drew some stuff from that too if there's anything in youtube comments chat say hi youtube uh in the youtube comments if you guys have anything anything to to suggest that i'm like oh hey that's actually a good idea um leave a comment we all know that there's a lot of problems with the queue and we all know that the queue is not going to last forever so trying to come up with the solution uh you don't want to necessarily come up with a permanent solution for a temporary problem either so this is going to take a little bit of time and effort um or a little bit of thinking but hopefully not a whole lot of time this is probably going to be a problem for anywhere from the next few weeks to the next few months maybe uh realistically if history repeats itself make sure to subscribe to the youtube channel if you guys haven't subscribed already if you have any suggestions 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