 for your team to thank you very much, Andrea, and thank you for also to your team to hosting this webinar today, the joint webinar between from OpenAir and Eurochris. Let me share my screen. So hopefully you could see this one. Yes, perfect. So, yeah, thank you and good morning to our webinar, joint webinar, on regional and national research information portals today. This joint webinar has also representatives from two other countries from Finland, Yunas Nikandan and Tom Woods from Paris. I will introduce both also in a minute. And as Andrea said, if you are on Twitter or on Macedone, please tweet and feel free to boost on the channels there, this webinar. Our agenda today is comprehensive. We have a short introduction on Eurochris and the guidelines as well, and followed by the ongoing projects and lessons learned. And one main focus is to have a discussion with you. Hopefully we don't break the hour as much, but let us see how it's going on this. And first of all, we would like to have a short overview and we prepared some questions for you to have more specific interviews from your side. I launched the first question and what is your location you are joining from? You share mostly I see some also some affiliations in the chat. But please feel free to also these answer these questions. Most of you have voted. So I will close this in three, two, one. So I will share this results with you. Hopefully you could see most of you are joining from Europe. It's mostly a Europe time this, but we have also one from Asia. Great. Thank you for this question. The next question is on what is your professional rule in the Chris domain? And the second one is what type of Chris or research information management systems do you represent? And I see there are many of you have voted. So I will end the poll in three, two, one. Last chance to share the results with you. Most currently we have Chris managers for research information management and others. So please let us know what is your rule in these Chris domains, but as well as we have some technical support for Chris systems here. Great. And for the representatives mostly from institutional, national and international level. Oh, great. Thank you very much for contributing to these bullets. So as I said, we have two main parts today. One is some presentations and I'm delighted that Pablo de Castro from Europe Chris is also with me as well as Yunas Nikonen from the development team from CSE and the research FI service owner. And Tom Woods. I'm happy to see you here also from Fris in Belgium. And my name is Andreas Czerniak from Bielefeld University Library and Bielefeld is one part of the technical team in open air for integrating Chris systems in open air as a data source. Thank you very much for joining today. And first, better is together to discuss the ongoing projects and lessons today. But first of all, I would like to pass the floor to Pablo de Castro. Pablo, the floor is yours. Hi, thank you, Andreas. I'm going to try turning on my video as well as my mic so you can see me. Yeah, there we go. So yeah, thank you for the invitation to take part in today's webinar. I'm going to very briefly provide the rationale from a Euro Chris perspective to this joint webinar. It's not the first one we do together open air and Euro Chris on the implementation of the open air guidelines for Chris managers. There was another one last October. Next slide please. So a brief introduction to Euro Chris. Next, as you can see on the slide, Euro Chris's mission is to promote cooperation and promote the sharing of knowledge across the research information community. So this is Chris systems, Chris managers in a wider sense, both research information managers, technical supports colleagues for Chris systems, using the common European research information form at the service standard as a basis for interoperability. For the purpose of these sorts of community management, Euro Chris organizes a number of events. Luckily, we're back into in-person events these days on the number of webinars as well. The most relevant area of activity among those shown on the slide is probably the DRIS, which you may or may not have heard about. This is the directory of research information systems that Euro Chris maintains. Next slide, please. So this is our attempt to capture the Chris landscape as an option of the Chris landscape in a database with a number of metadata to describe the various platforms. Since today's webinar is mostly oriented to national and regional Chris systems or research portals, I'm showing on the screen a snapshot of the current national and regional Chris landscape in Europe plus Israel as well. As per the information currently available in the DRIS in this directory, which currently hosts I think over 1,350 entries, most of them institutional, but this is the snapshot you get from the DRIS in terms of national and regional Chris. The ones marked in yellow are part of this national slash regional research portals working group. You have a URL at the bottom of the slide, pointing at a blog post introducing this working group that tries to bring together a significant number, as you can see, of regional and national Chris platforms. It's not all of them. I'm very happy that Georgia is in the call. This GRIS research information system is a very recent addition to the DRIS. There are further national and regional Chris in Europe that are not here or not yet anyway because they're not in the DRIS. The DRIS plays a relevant role, as Andreas will explain later, in making Chris systems open air compliant. So it's important also important to get a comprehensive snapshot of the Chris infrastructure to have the appropriate entries registered in the DRIS. There is a number of additional national Chris systems. You can see them on the notes on the right hand side of the slide, outside Europe, in Brazil, in Peru, in New Zealand. These three are members of this national regional research portals working group because of the times of differences and so on. I don't think any of them are here, although they may well be able to listen to this recording. It's exciting to be able to work internationally, beyond Europe, although, as you can see, the number of Chris systems at the national or regional level in Europe is remarkable and very good opportunities for a collaboration. Next slide, please. So this is the rationale for this working group that I just mentioned. It's managed jointly by the RIS synergy project in Austria, who are represented in the call today as well, of course, and you look at this with the RIS synergy team doing the heavy lifting in terms of organizing the calls and keeping the infrastructure for the conversation to happen across platforms. You can see on the slide the first call for this working group to place on the first of February this year. So this is a fairly young initiative. Next slide, please, with many representatives. One of the topics discussed in this first call a couple of months ago was the scope of the collaboration. So we know most of these projects, most of these initiatives for national and regional Chris share the same areas of activity. So it's really useful if they can all establish some sort of conversation on what the relevant topics are for them and the opportunities they see for learning from each other, sharing best practices and so on. And as you can see on the slides, one of the topics raised for this discussion across countries and across platforms was the implementation of the open air guidelines for Chris managers. This is very timely, in fact, because although open air is harvesting a lot of data providers already, there may be areas where these sorts of national and regional pre systems are able to provide information that is not there yet in open air. So these applies to specific countries, more than others. But it's really useful if some default workflows for becoming open air compliant can be discussed across platforms across systems and countries. And this the rationale for today's webinar. Thanks. And that's it for me. Thank you, Andres. Thank you Pablo. Thank you for the introduction to your Chris and to introduce the working group. That's great to see this work working group in your Chris. And as a next, I would give brief introduction to the guidelines for Chris managers. Depends on our time. The guide line, the open air guidelines as a whole starts back in 2010. You see a roadmap from open air starts in 2009 2010, the first literature repository guidelines. And five years after the first Chris guidelines for Chris managers was introduced. This was an early state. And in the next three years to 2018, the Chris managers, the guidelines for Chris managers are improved, enhanced, and doing some doing the community driven parts. And as well in the last years, we also see some needs for updating these guidelines. And hopefully, we could update, you will see an update in the next few weeks regarding the Chris guidelines. The Chris guidelines covers a part of the Common European Research Information System model, Zerif. Zerif has a hole to cover all the research information way in organizations and universities and so on. And the guidelines for exchanging information regarding some entities discover most of all the publications, the patents, the products, as well as the projects, persons, and organization units in the core. And as addition of their entities for funding, exposed and equipment instruments, as well as events. As you can see here, this is not the whole Zerif model, which is exposed and covered by the guidelines. It is only these entities currently. The guidelines update covers in the past the updating of the core resource type vocabulary. In the guidelines, the current guidelines have the core resource type vocabulary version one. So this is evolved in the last year. So we are updating the resource type vocabulary to the latest one. These activities, as you can see, is on GitHub. This is issue number 99 on GitHub. And as a community, we create these GitHub issues to track our work on the guidelines. And everybody could contribute to these guidelines as well. So it is open for the whole community of research information system managers to improve the guidelines. During the last year, we also make a report on the compliance level, the compliance of the open air Chris manager guidelines, where it was a fair principles. This work is in a finalization state currently, and will published in scenario today or tomorrow on this DUI. And as you can see, the discussion on these report is also mentioned in on GitHub. We are adding more descriptions and examples and updating also the open air Chris validator, which is provided by the your Chris GitHub repository as well. For contributing, you can see on the bottom the link to GitHub open air slash guidelines Chris managers. Some Chris application platforms are out of the box open air compliant. And you can see as we know currently, the space Chris since version 5.10 and 6.3 are out of the box open air compliant with the Chris latest Chris guidelines that we have. Then the commercial product of pure is since version 5.14 compliant out of the box with the open air guidelines, as well as omega psia since version to 102. This is also a community driven part. We have an overview of repository platforms that are supporting our not only the Chris guidelines, but the Chris kind as well. You can see in in these Google Doc, this open for everyone to which platform in which I know which version supports which open air guidelines. And this is not all the guidelines will be involved in in the next in the future. And this will be based on the initiative of the refactoring project by Eurochris to refactoring the reef model as you can as you have seen before. And these have some improved topics, some topics to improve the reef. Mostly as one part to say regarding the harvesting, the harvesting of the Chris entities will is currently via our PMH protocol, which is, as you know, 20 years old. So the harvesting will be switched, I think, to an API, which is definitely the next next part of harvesting here. As a next, a short introduction to the directory of research information systems. Pablo, the floor is yours for Chris for the twist. Yep. Thank you. So I mentioned the trees earlier, the director of research information systems with over 1350 entries that Eurochris maintains. You can see a snapshot of the home page for the dress as it stands. It is based on the communications we get mostly from institutions and stakeholders kind of developing or maintaining national Chris systems or regional Chris systems. So it's not a perfect snapshot. It's always work in progress because not all institutions know about it and not all institutions get in touch with Eurochris in order for their entry or the entry for their system to be created or updated in the system. You can see on the list of most popular countries, most of them are in Europe. You have India on top because India is a huge country in the first place and they have developed a specific solution that is implemented very widely across the country. You have the United States there, but other than that, most of the entries are European in terms of software solutions, which you have also on this home page as a summary. The Indian Chris solution is there on top as well. And then you have both commercial Chris solutions like PO or Simplactic Elements or Esplotto or Converis. You have open source Chris solutions like this base Chris like Vivo. And then you have quite a number of national level Chris solutions that are typically only implemented in one country. This is the likes of Omegapur or Christine. Omegapur is in Poland, Christine is in Norway. Oversize there is in Turkey, down at crisis in Spain. So you have quite a few of these solutions that are kind of locally developed in specific countries and widely implemented in those countries. Next slide, please. So this is a snapshot, a geolocation based map of the distribution of the Chris entries across the world. Now it's important for Chris systems that want to become open air compliant to be registered in the dress because I'm not sure if there's a slide. Let's go to the next slide, please. There may be a slide showing the metadata that's a record contains or a given Chris solution. This one, thank you, Janneken, for mentioning the contact person outdated here. It will be replaced or updated very soon. Typically the contact person is not included because this changes all the time and it's very difficult to keep that updated for over 1300 entries and you would rely on content communication from institutions. So we usually keep a kind of minimally sufficient metadata sets with the name of the crisis, the description where applicable its status, whether it's operational or under construction, its scope, whether it's institutional, national fund decrease and then the URL for ideally for publicly available research portal or web page where external users can see what the system is about. As you can see, this one is for METIS for the institutional Chris at Radbaude University in Nijmegen in the Netherlands and it contains a badge there for open air compliance actually. So this system is already open air compliant. We're trying to mark them with a badge whenever they have already completed the process for implementing this Chris guidelines that we're discussing today. Critically for the process of implementing the guidelines for the process of getting the Chris identified by open air so they can, I mean, eventually harvest the content of the Chris or specific content in the Chris it needs to be registered in the DRIS. So there is a number of metadata as you can see on the slide that is coupled to the open air infrastructure so that it can be retrieved from the DRIS and identified for open air purposes for advancing in this process of harvesting the content of open air. So please if your Chris system, I mean this one is probably outdated not just in terms of the contact person that Janneke has mentioned has changed but also in terms of the number of users probably. So it could make sense to remove some of the information on the record in order not to require kind of constant updates. Importantly, if you have a Chris system at your institution or in your country and it's not in the DRIS please drop us a line at your Chris at your Chris.org and we will update it if the record is there or we will have a new one created if it's not. I think Andreas will explain how it works. This is the URL, thank you for the DRIS where you can check if your system is already there, if it's correctly described there, if there's any updates required. As mentioned there's a number of minimally sufficient metadata elements that we need to create a DRIS entry for a system that is not there and you have them listed on the slide. The URL is very important, this is a topic we want to discuss with the community. So what happens if an institution is running a system that is not publicly available? Is that, I mean can we include this in the DRIS if there's no URL and nobody can check how it works? I'm thinking about, I mean for those of you in Britain or in Ireland, I'm thinking about the likes of World Tribe or Viadatum which is also running in Georgia. So we're seeing an increasing number of cases because the concept of research information management is systematically expanding a significant number of cases where systems held by universities which can be considered research information management systems are not visible from the outside and that is a little bit challenging. So we would need ideally a URL for a publicly available research portal in order to include an entry, a system in the DRIS and then finally the process for making a Cree's Open Air Compliant will be described next with some case studies. A key aspect is having a so-called OAPMH endpoints which has a URL and this is the point, this is the API in the Cree system where the information will be harvested from. So although we are often including this OAPMH endpoint URL in a DRIS record, it's not publicly shown in order not to compromise safety. We don't want to create opportunities for other stakeholders to look into that endpoint so it's never shown. It may be there if you share it with us and then Open Air can collect it and use it. Open Air will always be able to see it so they have the right permissions and privileges to be able to read and retrieve the URL for the OAPMH endpoint for a Cree's from the DRIS record when available but it's never shown. So for instance for the Metis one there was no URL for the OAPMH endpoint. I think that's it from a DRIS perspective Andreas, thank you. Thank you very much so and some important to say is that this DRIS is one of the fourth authorities, authority registries for the EOSC. So if you are registered your Cree system in the DRIS it should be also shown in the process of onboarding of a service, a data source in the European Open Science Cloud. So the other three authority registries are Open Door, Re3Data and Fair Sharing. Thank you very much Pablo and now the important part is to present some ongoing work and lessons learned from two parts. One is from Fiatta presented by Jonas Nickenen from CEC in Finland and one is from the Fris. But first of all Jonas please introduce yourself and Fiatta. Thank you and give me a hint for the next slide. Yeah of course thank you, thank you Andreas for the really brief introduction and hello to you all. I see familiar names in the participants list but my name is Jonas Nickenen. I work at CEC, has been working there for quite a long time dealing with research information in general and especially the Cree systems and that on a national level as well and has been part of EuroCris meetings for quite a long time now. But next slide is more about the actual actual topic here about data publication information service which is the long name for that. This is basically something that has been running for quite some time now a decade to be exact and this is really something a national endeavor in Finland that has been taken by the ministry in the first place to gather information and publications done in higher education institutes and universities of applied sciences for example and that we have done for quite some time. This relates the whole process of gathering information from local organization is really about the national funding model here in Finland which has this criteria in about publications published in organizations. But this has been in place for quite some time nowadays we get in some like 60 000 publications per year it includes like scientific publications but then professional publications artistic publications as well. So it's quite a broad topic of things and it's also not biased in the sense of disciplines that it covers. But Virta is really the service within that we provide on a national level it doesn't really have a UI in the sense that you could actually check what's in in there but rather all information that is in Virta in a data hub way is then exposed to this research.fi the national CRISP portal we have in Finland. You can check it out it's in research.fi obviously and that's something that I usually talk about but this is really about Virta. Virta now today here and the open air integration that we have already done a few years back. So some lessons learned on that but basically the Virta information is indeed in research.fi but you can also access it in statistical or reporting needs via this another recruitment portal but then also the API layer is quite important for us and has been even before before the open air integration so we provide just API and OIPMH in multiple formats already before the open air integration. But next slide please. So briefly on why we actually try to achieve something that is called integration to open air this really relates to the idea that having finished publications spread more more vibrantly on national and international level and in Finland even previously we had for example organizational repositories might have provided directly to open air but then we tried to achieve like centralized solution for this so not all organizations have to provide their information on publications directly to open air but rather as they are using Virta as its mandatory for the organizations they can then actually just provide for you and then Virta takes care of the rest and takes the publications to open air and obviously this has to do with metadata quality as well in the sense that the repositories for example that are used by organizations it might be limited in the sense of bibliographic information about those publications so that's one incentive as well for this whole integration. But next slide this is an overview what we actually did on the below part of the slide or the table really you can see in quarters what we actually did or planned to do and we kind of followed the plans indeed and you can see that how it progressed schedule-wise. But as was mentioned in the bullets there majority of the work was really about agreeing with the organizations because we as a national service don't really control the data itself in the sense that we could do something without asking the organizations. So there was a lot of this coordination work on what we actually tried for open air like explaining what we we tried to achieve and then then discussing that so that was majority of the work in there obviously there is the technical part of the integration work but that could have been achieved in less time than what is what is mentioned here in the table in quarters. But on the second bullet I really tried to catch the faces that we faced in a way in this in this process of getting information to open air. So first is really about the planning work and the coordination with the organization like I mentioned. Then is the actual mapping of data models and the schemas used within the data exchange and then is the actual work in expressing that data in a format so third format via OIPMH for open air to actually integrate or harvest the information and then we move towards testing it so we use beta environments for that do any corrections for the data exchange and then the last phase is really about the production starting and registering the endpoint etc. So that's roughly how we faced it. Then if you move onwards this is really the guidelines we like was mentioned also previously here. I tried I don't know if they are visible enough but on the right hand side I tried to put those arrows on which elements we actually provide to open air so we didn't look at the whole well all of the entities but rather those that are relevant for real time information in the sense that we actually have something for those. Next slide. And this is more like information for participants here that what we actually did in regards of the mapping obviously a lot of work was put into the mapping of data schemas in the sense that we could actually achieve Serif or have the data of Vereta to be exchanged in Serif format. Obviously we used this national data model in Verta and we had to do the exchange and you can see it also public in the sense that you could have a look after you get the presentations but have a look at how we actually did the mapping how it looks in a table and then also the Verta data model as a reference. But then I guess the last slide and the most important part for this you know yeah that's the last slide thank you the most important part for for this webinar is about the lessons learned and I tried to list a few here so first it's really about the implementation process that it's really dependent on your system that you use to store information. Like I was mentioned here that some of the I don't know commercial solutions already supported out of the box or it might be easier to achieve. We did this in an in-house solution so it resulted in a bit of more work but then you get the customization and the choices it brings brings to you. Second is really about the documentation that it is indeed available and quite straightforward to follow but then what we missed then and what is now kind of present in this webinar is really about the best practices on how to do it and what kind of phases it includes so hopefully this helps in that way. And the third is really about the aiming for for the metadata quality. If you want to have a broad data exchange in the way that most of the elements that are within your system to be in open area requires quite a bit of possibly complex work because the mapping so that's something you should think about when trying to achieve something like this. And then the fourth is not really a lesson but in the sense that obviously our work hasn't stopped there so we've got the information about publication in Finland to open air but the idea here has been in the beginning that when we have the research to defy which is this national Chris it includes information from Virta for example on publications but it includes other entities as well so projects funding etc datasets so we need to widen the scope of research entities that are made available to open air and this is partly related to what Andreas mentioned about the future of the Chris guidelines but also something that we do in a EU project called fair call for JOSC you can check the web link over there but there is a case study of national Chris systems trying to achieve the rd graph in the creation so basically the open air extension and this is really related to also the serif refactoring process that was mentioned here as well but thank you that was briefly what i had to say about the Virta lessons learned thank you very much Jonas thank you for the excellent insights that you that you have presented in over the that you have implemented in the last years and also presented here today and thank you for your time i know that you are currently in a conference of fair call for EOSC and hopefully you have time to answer some questions afterwards after our next presentation which comes from the Belgium the first system from Tom Woods Tom Woods please introduce yourself and your the floor is yours thank you yeah hello oh yeah yeah my name is Tom Watts i've been working now for Chris which stands for the Flemish research information space we're working there for three years and a half almost four years um and i'm uh i'm yeah the analyst and and also the screen master um also the engineers are in our call so if there are any questions you can also ask them um and that's about shorts uh why i'm i'm the king yeah um so this is fris uh shorts overview of what i'm trying to present logo fris is in the top right corner if you would ever see it and um you can consult us on research portal dot org um first short introduction what is fris and a schematical overview of what of how fris looks uh then some short words on how to why we want to get uh open air compliance um and then the most important part of the lesson nerd and yeah since we're still building um or integration with open air we're still working on the oh yeah ipm h interface uh then the next steps uh once we finished with uh what we're doing now um yeah thank you um so what is fris fris the Flemish research information space um it is uh a system that gets data from all the research institutes in Flemish and it started in 2008 and yeah we started with universities and more and more institutes have have editor data to fris so now in total we have around 100 institutes delivering data to fris um exchange is possible in serif 1.5 um to which we added some extensions and then some numbers i think they're more or less accurate uh with the current view that we have right now um over 40 000 researchers um 580 000 uh publications and yeah 56 000 projects uh recently since last year more or less we also have data of patents research infrastructures and data sets and yeah you can check it on research port it'll be your orchids the same it's the same link and and you can check which data we currently have um also open apis are available so you can query if you want to build an integration with fris it's also possible and we use it in full anders for reporting on research and open science um since we're a true we're a true believer of open science and the most important principle um in fris is same as with firta i think it's that the institutions are still responsible for their own data so the data is not a fris the um the information in fris is still from the institutes um the next slides please thank you um so here is a is an overview of of a schematical very root schematical overview of fris it's a little bit simplified for this purpose um there's already been some mention of pure um so institutes that use pure have an integration with fris um another possibility is to um send information to fris do an um soap xml interface um the structure there followed is the serif 1.5 structure with some additions um so pure yeah pure as its own as its own structure of course and there is also an a possibility to add data through an interface we do have a ui to which um institutes we do not have their own chris system and can add their data directly to fris um there's a small block uh below it's the data flux um this is what we used to check our data there's some checks on what's being sent to fris and afterwards yeah the data is exposed um i already mentioned the oi-pi major interface but we're not yet in production so it's currently developed uh or still under development um data from fris can also be um is also can also be consulted with uh soap xml so we have the we have the two flavors we have the serif uh structure and uh the fris structure which is more closely to the fris model uh at uh that we use uh for fris itself we have a reshiation interface that we used to fill our portal um for which the link was in one of the previous slides uh small work of the serif uh yeah i think all it was already mentioned by andreas um so all the red blocks that you mentioned in the slide 12 i think um are yeah are also in fris yeah thank you um so yeah what i already mentioned so the reason why we want to be open-air compliant is there for the that we believe in the open science so we believe that the transparency collaboration and innovation will help to improve the science in in the world um i also mentioned the far so far stands for finability accessibility interoperable and reusable um far is something that we try to achieve with our data sets so by delivering data sets to open air we already try to improve the finability um and also yeah in finability by delivering the data to open air and also the the other three will benefit the other three and qualities will will benefit from delivery to open air um another additional point why we want to deliver data to open air is that um since fris has the data of more or less 100 research institutions um if fris builds the integration to open air then of course the other 100 institutes don't have to build this integration anymore they can still still do this we don't prohibit this but um of course it's it's not necessary anymore um so the lessons learned it's uh some of the things that i see that come back from from um the issues with firt or two now the first issue that we had um were the guidelines with guidelines or the follow um the reason is that since fris has data from different institutes but the institutes all deliver the data um by their own uh account in fris so fris still knows which data is delivered by whom so we're looking at the provenance block uh and first we're actually looking at the the other guidelines the the guidelines for literature institutional and thematic repositories because that at that point in time we would also be able to deliver the provenance block now the issue uh that we have is that um i put the provenance block on the side of it um that this is not possible because the data comes in through through a soap interface so some data that's been required for the provenance block we're not able to deliver so yeah we had also had a call uh with the team of andreas so the open air guidelines for the chris managers and seems to be the more logical solution since fris is a that is of course a chris system um yeah we currently we started with data sets um and we don't we don't deliver yet the other entities um so as mentioned before we do have the entities in fris but we we started with with uh with one entity now um so links to other entities can not yet be delivered either because we don't have those entities yet i give a small example of an xml part next to it and the other part that uh was what uh i'm sorry i forgot the name the person from vitra the responsible vitra mentioned so is the mapping issue so we have three values for two open air values so it's it's a little bit uh it's checking on how how can we deliver on the best way to data to open air um that's the same issue as we figured that uh and then yeah um of course uh open air helped us with some issues um it's maybe one of the things i also wanted to mention to the other persons want to build an integration with open air you're not alone on this open air will help you and you can create some tickets uh to github and also for example we had a we still have a problem with delivering the creator element for data sets so yeah i just mentioned the ticket on github of course it's really important for fris but also for the other institutes um opening a ticket on github for technical issues is definitely an option um then for fris yeah our next steps so currently yeah the it's fixing the the issue for the creator so that we can deliver the data also in production and so once we fix the the issue we can deliver this the OAI PMH interface is already running in testing in acceptance but then without without the creators um and then the furthest further steps are of course not only the data sets um as mentioned serif also supports a lot more than just data sets so we're also looking into other entities and then we can also provide the links to the data sets that we're currently delivering or try to deliver at least uh on longer term um the delivery yeah the delivery of the other entities then and also the possible enrichment from open air to fris once we can deliver of data to to open air uh the other goal is of course to enrich our own data with the data that's currently in open air of the and i'm mainly of the entities that we have ourselves and to see if we can improve the information in fris and i think that was in short or presentation if you have any questions you can contact me on the email here shown in green if you don't want to contact me but you want general support you can also do that uh we have the link to our research portal as mentioned before it has some some aliases that for technical questions you can contact us on the fris dot support at flauneren.be which is uh oh yeah flauneren is just the the Dutch name for Flemish and uh fris at flauneren.be for the general questions and then we'll try to answer your questions as soon as possible so thanks for your uh time and if you have any questions i'm happy to answer them or the engineers and the program that is also in the call thank you tom thank you for the excellent and clear insights on on on fris and the ongoing work on on fris currently um thank you very much and i will uh give now the floor to our audience and and tendencies to open the questions and the discussion um we are a little bit late uh we passed the hour but i think it is important to have um some questions from your side if you have uh anything and um i i think i must stop sharing my screen to take a look to the q&a or andrei until now we do not have any question on the comments in the chat okay feel free to ask questions in the q&a so um the q&a section will also be saved so we can take a look after this presentations to your questions as well but if you have questions um please contact us via our mail addresses i will share this also uh in the chat if you have any specific questions for jonas or tom i think please raise your hand and you can give you the floor as well i'll use the microphone jan i see your hand yes hello i'm raising my hand i would have a question to jonas uh jonas how difficult was it to map your output types your publication types to the core resource types vocabulary yeah good question i'm not i'm not sure that i can precisely answer on the on the subject in the sense that how hard it was obviously it was a bit of work uh we were lucky that there were some resemblance to begin with the data model and the the schema in relation to to the publication in the sense that we didn't have to like make it too complex in the sense but obviously it took time and and like i mentioned in the presentation um depending on your ambition you can spend more time in that in the sense that if you want to actually have like the broad scope of of things you have for example regarding classifications that you might use on a national or regional organization level those are usually the hardest ones that how do you actually express that kind of information but regarding the publications themselves i i feel that we we um it was doable so nothing too much to do there can i have a or make a question as well please allow thank you regarding on yeah regarding Andrea what you mentioned about the open air uh future development in regards especially the well the protocols in how those data exchange are to be done you mentioned about the OIPMH being not replaced but kind of updated to something else alongside that so is there some further information at this point on that or is it something that is still in in the planning progress um thanks for the question so um this question is i think definitely dedicated to Jan Rovak um and i will pass the floor to him but uh i think um i don't really know the details currently if uh both um end points will be available some end points via the API uh this specialized format here and the OIPMH i think this depends on the implementation of the uh research information platforms if both um end points are available or not in the meantime but we see um a new endpoint uh the development of a new endpoint and has um it takes a long time for the in the in the deployment in the area of research information systems or repositories so um i don't know what is here the strategy but Jan please feel free to add yeah yeah i would say that OIPMH has been working great for the purpose of harvesting the information at the data so as long as it works we will try to keep it but if there are other important use cases for perhaps more precisely querying into the body of information in a criss that would probably go outside of the use case area of the domain of OIPMH and we would need an alternate API but the basic task of you know passing the metadata contents from one system to another uh that's what is quite well covered by the system that we call thank you i think um yes this uh is a future work to do it's as simple as as is necessary not not more difficult than that is necessary so do we have further questions in the chat yes so we have one from marica i understood that um there will be an API solution for harvesting to open it as well when could we expect uh to have it available it's probably the same question and i think that's a really uh that's really going to happen in the next years not uh it needs the standardization and then it needs also support from the open air side so it will probably not be too fast or something that that may come in the future development of the guidelines or perhaps are you thinking about an API to harvest information from open air because there is one such API so yes of course so um open air has also APIs to request information from the open air research graph um and this will uh the a new documentation on the to access the um how is the open air research graph built and how could you access the open air research graph uh you could find this under uh graph dot open air dot au there's um a documentation um on the current uh on the on the whole chain of the open air research graph from aggregation over the harvesting of information from the graph itself after the duplication um yes furthermore let's see no no last chance so for today okay in the meantime um we have some people i have a last last question to you um as you've seen before we have different entities in the the reef model and the open air research graph covers mostly the um entities of products as well as publications and patents and the question is here what is the other what is an entity that you would like to have uh as an x in harvest by open air from chris system uh from your side that could be enrich the information in the open air research graph as well to um make the relay relations between the different parts of entities from the publication or research products um to the organizations and as well as to the fundings and projects and of course uh two equipments instruments which is also i think um very interesting part um and and and last two events like conference that are um also very important for researchers here so please let us know which is the one that you would like to see and uh i will end the question in three two one last chance seconds now i will share this also with you um most of you are voting for projects um as well as funding and events great to see this and also organization units and equipment is thank you very much for sharing these information from your side so if there are no further questions um i would uh give um i would like to uh raise up some upcoming events from eurochris one is the membership meeting in on may end of may in brussel as well there is an the national and regional research portal working group from eurochris the next meeting is um in end of april i think and um we don't cover in these meeting today but it's uh we have more than our um the registration process in provide itself the open air component to registering endpoints of our data sources and quiz systems as well and there's a provide community call that i would like to invite you also the next one is on third of may the first wednesday of a month mostly and uh on the page of the provide community calls you will also see the previous community calls with the presentations and the recordings and um hope for see you there and i thank you thank you thank you and thank you also to the presenters today to uh you and us you can and and as well as paplu for the support from the eurochris side and thank you and take care have a good day and see you thank you