 On the breakfast, Kaduna Bay's Islamic scholar Sheikh Al-Makgumi portions Muslims against killing fellow human beings because of treacherous insisting a prophet of Islam was insulted and scorned that he never knew in retaliation. Also on the breakfast leader of the indigenous people of Biafra, Ipob, Masi Namdi Khanu describes killing of innocent people on lawful restrictions of movement in the South is senseless. It says such genius art are perpetrated by groups masquerading as Ipob. And like always we will be reviewing the biggest stories making headlines across national dailies. Good morning and welcome to the breakfast. I am Justin Al-Kaduna. And I am Messiah Bokpo. It's a beautiful Monday morning. Beautiful Monday morning. Mas, do you know something about Mondays and the early morning rush and everything? Most people don't like Mondays. How are Mondays for you really? I mean so I mean different. I don't know whether I don't like Mondays or not but I think that if you have enough rest over the weekend then Mondays would not be a problem. Depending on what you're engaging in it feels like that's part of our top training but that's not the case. Depending on what you're going to be doing. Some people just feel like oh it's Monday and it's a horrible one and that's because you have to get to work and everybody feels like they want to go. As though the weekend rush is something that's too short. I feel like a lot of people don't like work and that's why they get to talk about Mondays. Most people would rather just lay back. But you know Mondays and Lagos just know that everybody wants to go to work. I mean those who didn't go to work three days ago once. So the road that would be, I mean you're going to have because of the poor road network and which I'm thinking that the legal state government would have been on top of this. If you say that this is the business center, Africa's, what have you, gone commercial city. But we should be looking at the road network especially on the island. The road network is not friendly and that's why you have all of this traffic. If we have a better road network where there would be diversion and all of that I'm not sure we're going to have all of the drama. Lagos would be a beautiful city. Yeah I just hope the authorities are listening from your lips to the rest this morning. Let us just start up with the top trend. We'll begin with something that was not really too chairing. Not chairing at all. It actually is a sad one. It happened. A commercial motorcyclist was beaten, burned, or they beat rather. They burned a sound engineer over some disagreement of 100 Naira balance. Message just the other day. Still an agenda talking about how some people took laws into their hands and they beat and burned Samuel in a circuitous state. And this one just happened recently over some misunderstanding. It just went all right and a guy was just killed because of 100 Naira. So I mean a lot can actually happen. The truth is as humans, I mean you and I, every other person on this table, every other human because in our daily interaction with people we get to a point where we don't agree with a lot of stuff. And that's because we have different upbringing. We lived in different environments. We probably would have been shaped by all of the experiences in our environment and we just have different approach to things and different opinions. But at the end of the day it's important that whatever disagreement we need to understand how to handle conflict and disagreement. And at the points that you were angry about a second thing, how do you react, including myself? I mean we're all victims here because you could act irrational. But I mean you get to that point where they are generally and it's been pumped. It's not an excuse, but the point is conflict management is important. Whether we have to make it as a you know, elementary cost for people to understand, we have to find a way to let people understand that yes, manage their disagreement, dispute, find a better way to solve problems and conflict without resorting to violence. That's it. Like I always say violence has never solved anything. It's never solved the problem. That approach has never solved the problem. And in the in the sport of the moment you could just get very bitter and it happens. So it's just a reaction. Before you know you have done something very nasty and that's why it's important that self control boy. It doesn't it's cheap is I mean talk is cheap. That's what you you want to see. A lot of people should realize there's a first rule of unform for things like this. Whenever you are angry the first thing for you to do. I'm not a psychiatrist. I'm not a psychologist. But it actually makes sense whenever you're angry. The first thing for you to do is just calm down. Don't we don't do the first thing that comes to your mind because at the end of most times it's usually not the best thing. You know so if you're angry no matter what the situation and it might be hard they might be telling some crazy things some harsh things maybe insulting your mother your father if I can't you or something. But whatever it is the first thing to do is just to calm down because if you're reactionary for the first instance it might be boom boom boom. So your understanding is not that easy. No it's not. But we just have to be conscious about it. What happens is when you have all of the energy pumping and the adrenaline that's mostly I have a lot of adrenaline but I don't want to pump you like punch you like every other day. You never can tell what would happen. I mean I'm not trying to hold breath for anyone you know in anger but it's such a difficult situation to bring and most times you find out that those people who act extra like for instance now on that incident you kill someone at the end because of 100. So you probably just go back and be like what happened what really happened. How did we get to this point 100 really just so we're just we have to be responsible for ourselves and our action we have to be cautious. There's this statement there's this quote popular quotes that I had stumbled over that you would never have a control over how people would treat you what they would do when they would do it and how they would do it but what you have control over is how you react. So let's understand that we can never tell anybody can walk into this studio right now and give me a slap you know slap me in the face or punch me and the point is because you can never tell but what do I do. So let's all be responsible at that point and know that you know you have a lot of persons who are out there very triggered but that's not an excuse. I know that the law would definitely take its course because if you don't want to do the crime then just ready to do the time. Exactly. It is really sad but we'll just leave it at that but this is a message out to every Nigerian please whatever it is that we are doing. Let us always be conscious of the next person. I know sometimes you get into this agreement it could get very heated because I understand it wasn't just him that was involved his friends too were also beaten. 100 there. They were beaten to their unconscious it is sad you know the rate at which. So if you were ever patronized I mean if you were ever patronized you know public transportation you know how it can be. I know sometimes where way back you probably have to be like you know how much is it again you know somebody should just let's move on. Like 100 can not be the problem. Nigerians are educated. I'm just saying that 100 can buy them a bottle of water. So it's a very funny time when I say funny it's funny in the sense that a lot of people are very edgy this period. A lot of people are going through stuff first of all you see that government policies not even reflecting the interest of the people people are not getting what they want and so everybody seems to be agitated the slightest thing. This is something we could just say good morning to you and your piece today. What was good about the morning? What is it now? Why are you gritting me now? It happened a lot. It could call for a lot of reaction. I remember my first life my first spirit let me just share this quickly you know so I mean I've lived in cities where there's a lot of peace I always avoid Lagos war as much as I would you would be shocked that I grew up in this city but I avoided it. You grew up in Lagos? Yes of course. I grew up here I grew up in the West you know for the past part of it and yes I can even say but the point is I've always for everything I want to do I like to do holiday here and then just get away and just so the peace and quiet so my initial experience was that you know coming around and I got a lot of people just angry they want to tell you something somebody's agitated they are shouting I'm like oh god why are you shouting? It's not even making sense I'm wondering that you know I'm wondering and I'm asking myself why are you why are you so angry what's what's going on no you don't need to oh guys it's not serious calm down and then it's just it's just funny and it's very but we need to be responsible for every time we talk about Niger and we constantly say that we need to be on top of the issue we compare ourselves with different countries within the region and even though in the principle of comparison you can't compare things that are not on the same pole so it would be wrong for you to begin to say oh the US and Nigeria so you compare stuff within for instance you will be okay to say Niger and Ghana and other countries in the West African region which is fair or probably you know in Africa you can say Niger and Egypt Niger and South Africa but most times that's what the principle says but we need to know that in these countries where things are actually working that we perceive things are working and people are behaving in a you know in a better way people are acting differently it's because they're you know they're responsible for all of that and if we have to get there then we need to understand it on a daily basis we have to make excuses for people we have to be very tolerant we have to be very patient and in our course of interaction people will always be people as long as me and you would meet you and I would meet there would always be conflict of interest because of different backgrounds and you should just learn how to manage people tolerance would be the worst situation so at least I would not just be you know committing murders that we never really know but the people plan for more some people plan to murder others but then this one would have been avoidable or avoided if the part is involved actually just where come about let's just move on to something else we're going next to the Abuja Kaduna train it's been over 48 days I understand about going to 50 right now but I don't even call it a bit of a chair in the user I remember about 62 people that were kidnapped or during the attack in March from what we hear a pregnant woman was actually involved and this time around a report is saying that the terrorists have released the the pregnant woman maybe they just didn't want her to give birth in the air then or whatever conversation is but the fact is that they don't deserve to be with you be they pregnant be they they are Nigerians let them go please just let them go so I mean according to that report I mean looking at it it feels like this there's always still a human part to be a terrorist this still do you have you know some conscience because people would say that those who are without conscience are the ones who would act in this particular manner the question would be where's your conscience because as a human being I always say that before you are anything whatever it is professionally whatever classification you want to go about you need to understand that you're a human being and so we have lost humanity but should we you know put our hands together for this terrorist and say hey you've done fantastic for releasing the pregnant woman it just shows you that you know there's that element of humanity still with them there would still it's still possible for them to have their way for whatever reason they're doing that I mean maybe we should have plot them I really don't know what to say I mean it's a lot of mixed reaction so yes because they could as well said you know she can be here and she has the baby and then they recruit the baby or just hold on to the baby yeah it could just go it could have so I think that at the end of the day it both stands to the fact that we all have the choice situation there's always that element of humanity we always and I wish we can dig deeper which they can the problem here is most times with these terrorists you ask yourself especially with this group of us what exactly are they fighting what is the cost of action for a group of persons what are you fighting for what are you getting at but it's a lot when you talk about indoctrination they have gotten to this point where they are acting very you know acting without caution you're extreme because that part of humanity has been shot out yes it is should we say you know applause to them I don't know yeah but we are we we appreciate the we appreciate the fact that the woman has been this but we still have other Nigerians still in your den released them I know prayers have been organized in Kaduna state interfaith or inter-religious groups that's the Muslim the Christian women and children yesterday you know the troops out and they held prayers for victims and the families are actually hopeful that maybe someday they will be reunited with your loved ones and they will be safe just hope you know that something is done and then these people you know laugh at the end of it all oh let's just move away from that till the next topic trending the superheroes of Nigeria now have a new coach head coach he is a 62 year old his name is Jose Pacero I think he's Portuguese mercy this time around we're also having another foreign based coach and I hear from my international affinity will be assisted so Pacero has been on top of that part of this time I think early 2022 there was a lot of boars about having Pacero as supraegos coach and then we have the back and forth the argument of the fact that if you look at his antecedent and his record he doesn't even match it he's not fit because how many clubs he you know manage and what's his success history of his success so we said I feeling like it's like we're relegating ourselves um you know we're just always relegating ourselves we get to take ourselves to that point why do we have to settle for less that that was really the argument if we know his antecedent we're settled for him yeah that's it if you look at his antecedent his coach history what fantastic thing has he done what what really has he achieved you know um in his career in his lifetime in football if you want to say so and that got a lot of Nigerians talking and then a lot of people started talking about the fact that oh why do we always go for a foreign coach and even if we're going to go for a foreign coach but do we need Pacero do we really need him um it's the question that was also put out but unfortunately as always you hear the whole okay we're not going for him it's just the rumours and the speculating before you say it's been confirmed so he brings us back to the fact that for every time you hear all of this speculation it feels like there's some element of truth it might just become a reality well let's see how all of that pans out and I'm sure that as we progress in the course of the week we would definitely talk about um what the future we hope for superheroes with Pacero as a coach well let's not just give a dog a bad name let's um just keep our fingers cool but the facts are actually there I know he's a record uh you know speak for him but um as it is let's not just begin to uh you know make so much uh condemnation for him we'll just see what he let's let's just give him the benefit of a doubt and if he's not good we should not do the whole thing of um let's manage or let's manage I don't know he's been appointed I mean Justin is really not here you're going to do about this well if he's not performing but he has he has to he has like two friendlies he has a he has two friendlies uh not too far you know he has one with Ecuador and another country I think we should use that as Mexico yeah Mexico we use that to test him and if he flops mercy so are you we can take back his contract I mean Nigeria first though there's there's Niger football federation man Niger and so I'm a mistake no I totally understand but are you are you now sounding like an assistant uh maybe I might be in your technical team who knows I might be consulted for that the date has already been done we have to deal with it and that's it fingers crossed we definitely come back with this conversation in the course of the week but in the meantime let's take a break when we return and we'll be time for us to go through the front pages of a national daily space with us