 I just wanted to start by reading from Philippians chapter 1 and this is a prayer which Paul prays to the church of Philippi, right? So Philippians chapter 1 and verse 3, so this is what we see, while praying this, I thank my God upon every remembrance of you, always in every prayer of mine, making request for you all with joy for your fellowship in the Gospel from the first day until now, being confidence of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ. He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ. Okay, so you know, some of us, that could be a fear. Will I really fulfill, will I really complete what God has in store for me? Will I really do all the things that God has called me to do? Will I be able to do that physically, emotionally, when we face challenges and all that? Well, this is what we see here, Paul is praying and he's saying, you know, being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will bring it to completion. So from God's side, there is no hesitation, right? From the part of the Lord Himself, there is no hesitation, there is no, there's nothing that is holding Him back and we know that. And so one thing is from our side, so we can be confident, we can be full of faith saying, you know, the Lord, there's nothing holding Him back. So why should I hesitate? Why should things hold me back? Why should I withhold? Because He will bring it to completion and a lot of it is, you know, His grace, His strength and our willingness and the posture of our heart, right? So we can pray and declare the same thing. Lord, I'm confident of this thing, this very thing, that you who have begun a good work in me, you will bring it to completion, you will bring it to fulfillment in Christ Jesus, right? Until the day of Christ Jesus. So it's an ongoing thing and He is bringing things to completion, right? So let's pray. Father God, we thank You, Lord. Even as we've read Philippians 1 and 3 to 6, Lord, we, Lord, we appropriate that for ourselves, Lord. And we acknowledge, oh God, and we come to that place of confidence and faith that You who have started a good work in us, Lord, You will bring it to completion, Lord. Lord, You will not leave things hanging, Lord. You will not keep things unfinished, God. You will bring it to completion, Master, Lord. And we are mindful of that, assured of that, Lord. And so, Lord, our response to this is that, Lord, have Your way in us, Lord. Have Your way in us, God. We don't want to withhold anything, God. Lord, we don't want to stand in the way of Your work in us, Lord. So we yield, Lord, to Your work in us, Holy Spirit. We yield, we give ourselves, Lord, to Your work, oh God, that You will change rearrange Father God, strengthen and, Lord, establish things in us, Father God, and bring it to completion, Lord. We pray for every area of our lives, God, our personal lives, Father God, our personal spiritual lives and growth, God, our family, God, ministry, God, work and profession, Lord, and maybe we are students, Lord, Lord, every aspect of our lives, Father God, we commit into Your mighty hands, God, Lord, we pray that, Lord, as we journey through that You will bring all this to a beautiful completion, Lord, in You, Master. We thank You. We commit ourselves into Your mighty hands. In Jesus' precious name, we pray. Amen. Amen. Okay. So today, we will continue. We were looking at transition, right? Leadership transition. And I mean, it's a very important topic. And I guess it can be a, you know, a topic for advanced leadership session. But we are actually looking at it initially itself. Like even before we look at teamwork and all that, because, you know, in a ministry kind of a setting, we see that in a ministry kind of a setting, especially church, you know, we see that this is a possibility, right? And in today's, like world, today's scenario, you see that this is a reality. So as leaders, it's best that it's good that we are equipped for it. And we are empowered, equipped, and we are aware of these things, so that it doesn't, you know, normally, you know, transitions are never easy. Transitions are never comfortable. But shouldn't happen, you know, we shouldn't, we should be prepared. And we should know what to do. Okay, so, and in a church kind of a scenario, or a ministry scenario, we've seen, you know, so many things happen in the world, in the, in the kingdom of God, like transitions happen all the time, transition happen in a very positive way, like, you know, maybe like Moses and Joshua, and it was prepared, and Moses actually laid hands and prayed and, you know, well ahead of time, and sometimes transitions take us by surprise, you know, maybe an untimely death of a leader, or, or maybe some kind of, you know, an unpleasant thing, like, maybe a moral failure, maybe an issue with integrity, and we see that also in the, in the church scenario, right? Maybe some moral failure, maybe something with something to do with finances and all that and it's an issue of integrity and, and the leader has, has to step down when it comes to light and step down and there is a transition and whenever there's a transition for the leader who's actually taking that place. But, you know, there is there is such a turbulence, there is such a, I mean, unpleasantness. So one has to, one can't escape it. One has to face it boldly. And, and that's why we are looking at, you know, this very practical, you know, though very important and practical thing of leadership transition, right? So we, we looked at a few things last class, we looked at how the first of all, you know, our eyes, our focus need to be on the Lord, because a lot is going on, right? Lord is going on, people are talking, people are comparing. And, and, and so even our own emotions are, you know, there's an upheaval, right? Okay, I need to do the right thing. And there could be anxiety, there could be, you know, will I measure up and all those kinds of things, questions going around. So we need to keep our eye on the Lord, we need to keep our focus on him because he's bigger than this, and he has promised that he will lead. He is the good shepherd. So the good shepherd leads us through, you know, not only the green pastures and still waters, but also through those times, right, through the storms as well. So keep our focus on and make decisions out of a pure and sincere heart. That's the second thing we saw. Like we said, that our decisions and everything need to be made out of a pure heart, out of a sincere heart. It's not be something that, you know, something that out of a biased mentality, or something to, you know, on a defensive, in a defensive way, right, it has to be out of a pure and sincere heart for the greater good, not to put others down, not to present the, you know, someone in a poor light, nothing at all. So we do it out of a purity and out of a sincere heart, right. And while talking about the heart, it's important that we guard our whole heart, right. It could be fear, it could be something, it could be bitterness, it could be offense. So excuse me. So the temptation to be judgmental, the temptation to condemn, you know, criticize all that could be there, but we need to protect our heart. As we are focusing on the Lord, and, and also when, when there's a, you know, when people are talking, and then so we don't do a, you know, we're not doing a PR exercise to protect our image and everything. But even if it means that people don't understand and, you know, people are just talking, well, up to a certain point, you know, we can present the facts, but then people, right, form their own opinions, and they have their own perception. So we just leave that aspect to God. What we've done a bit, we presented the facts, but still if people are unable to receive it, we leave that to the Lord, let him indicate. Okay. So the, the other thing that we saw was that we need to focus on the journey that's ahead. Okay, focus on the big focus on the vision. Okay, what is ahead? What is it that we need to do? What, what needs to be done? Right? So, so big thing is that, you know, if you're not careful, this transition in, in leadership, or this transition time in leadership can actually drain up energy, emotions, everything, right? Where we and our focus could shift because of that, we could get distracted because of that. So it's, it's a difficult thing while it is, you know, it is important to be done well, to be managed well. But it's also important that our focus needs to be on the vision needs to be what needs to be done. Right? And so while we, okay, this is one thing that we are doing, that we need to go through this, we need to journey through this. But bring our focus back to what is it that we are here for? You know, as a church, as a ministry, as disciples of the Lord, why are we here? And what are we doing? Right? Always, we need to come back to that main issue or main focus. And it is depends on the leader, depends on the leadership team to, to bring that focus back, right? And not be distracted. Okay, then I think this is the last thing we saw last class, that is to keep the core people together, like the core team or the leadership team. So we looked at, you know, different, you know, whenever we look at a church or ministry or gathering, we always have the crowd community core and committed crowd community committed on the core, right? So, so keep the core together, the ones who carry the weight, the ones who carry the weight of leadership, keeping the core together. So, and these are people who will help carry the weight of transition of leadership, and journey through the transition. So they need to, they need to know, they need to understand all that's happening, they might have, you know, questions, and they might have doubts and all that all that needs to be clarified. And it needs to be explained clearly, right? So, so then, the change and the reason for change, etc, can be communicated well to the community, right? Okay, and in communicating the, the, the message, or, let it be the truth. And let it be one, singular message. And only the, the leadership can actually do that. Right? So it cannot be any deviation from the truth for the sake of managing, maybe some mistakes made, right, or covering up some mistakes made. No, it cannot be, right, you know, saying something for the moment, in order to cover up the mistake of the organization, maybe of the ministry. If it is the truth, well, it has to be told, this is what happened. Or this is what is happening, right? So it cannot be like, different people in the leadership cannot be talking about 10 different things. Right? Then it's going to confuse, it's going to further create confusion, right? So the truth, the truth is singular, right? The truth is exclusive. So speak the truth, declare the truth, and have the understanding, okay, this is what needs to be told, and no compromise and no deviation from it. So that there is one single message that goes up. What would also happen during transition in leadership is also that there could be some places that are, or some functions or some responsibilities, which are, which are, which have no place of leadership, in the sense that the leader is not there. Maybe, maybe there could be three things, four things, which, you know, which are, which require leadership now. So the, the thing is to either to appoint a new person to do it or one has to step in oneself, right? And it is, yes, an increased load, but it is with the understanding that it is for a season, right? Let's say, you know, there is a, you know, particular area of ministry for which there is a transition. Okay, maybe let's say men's ministry or, or let's, for example, take a think about men's ministry and that it's a transition has happened and there's no one suitable who's there, then what would happen is the leader himself or herself has to, you know, step into that area of ministry and, and take care of it. If we're able to appoint someone to do that to take care of the responsibility, that's fine. But if not, then the leader himself has to step in and take care of that area of ministry. So obviously, if it's man, then it has to be, you know, someone of the same gender men's ministry, right? So appoint the right people. Otherwise, you need to step in and be ready for the added responsibility. Well, the other thing is there could be many questions, there could be many issues. People could be curious. No, there's two things to it. People are general, people could be, it could be just idle curiosity. You know, they're not, they're not really concerned about the issue, but they're curious anyway. And they ask questions. Well, fine. There are other people who are also sincere. And they, they want to, you know, ask, they ask the questions, because they are sincerely care and sincerely want to know. Okay. Either way, whatever be the motive of people's heart, you know, all the questions can be addressed. If people have questions, and then, you know, there could be a separate platform where we call people who have genuine questions. So the ones who are actually genuine, it will be a mix of people who are actually genuinely want to know and maybe people who are curious, maybe people who are hurt, whatever, but they, they would come forward for such a gathering in order to hear from the leadership, right? Why certain things happened, and they may have an opportunity to ask questions, so that the answers can be received. Right. So, so these can be addressed privately. And these need to be addressed privately, because it's not for the, you know, it's not for the crowd. It's, it's for the ones who actually have those questions, because not everybody has questions. They may not even be aware of certain things or not interested in these things. They just come and go. But there are things who people who really want to know these things. So these can be addressed privately. These can be addressed so there can be a, you know, a thorough proper discussion, and it can be addressed. So be prepared for that. Right. Well, the next one is, when it comes to introducing new things, now, you know, maybe, there are maybe new ministries, new initiatives. Well, this is not the right time. This is not the ideal time to introduce those. Right. If it's a new initiative, it's a new thing. Let things be for some time. Do not introduce new changes or new initiatives at this time. Because if you introduce a new change, a new initiative, you really want, right, we really want the commitment of the people in order to take it forward. As a leader, only you can do so much. It depends on everyone else to be able to receive that and to take things forward. So wait, give it some time before introducing new things. Maybe that is not the right time to, you know, if it's a church, that's not the right time to say, okay, we are starting an additional service, you know, because all that enthusiasm and everything may not be there. And the added effort that is required to, you know, have additional service will not be sufficient, right, for people. So that is not the right time to do it. Wait, and let things settle down, let emotions settle down, let people understand and be willing to journey again. And so then you can have those new things introduced, right? And lastly, commit your reputation into God's hands. And just like how we said, okay, be willing to be seen as, as a person who did wrong, be willing to see because after you presented the facts, and there's no point in just going on defending your actions or defending yourself, right? You just leave that to God. So also, you know, the, the reputation, everything, you know, let God take care of it, let him be our indicator, let him be the PR man for us, right? Let him take care of that as well. And he will do a much better job than us, right? So commit that into God's hands. So now this is going to take some time, right? If it's a very serious thing, right? Let's say a serious change, a very abrupt change happened and some difficult decisions had to be made. So it's going to take some time, right? Take some time for everything. It cannot happen overnight. And all these things that we saw all these 10 things, it's going to take some time, it's going to take time for the organization, for those who are connected with the organization, you know, if it is an organization like a ministry or ministry organization, or if it's a church, it's going to take some time to journey through this. So understand that, right? And be patient as you commit everything into God's hands, right? So, well, you'll be able to journey through this. Okay, so that's about transition, leadership transition. And so any questions here, before we move into a different topic, which is about productivity and personal productivity, any questions here? Possibly want to do certain things, especially in a church setting. Do we also give time for the congregation to adjust to, let's say, starting another service? Yeah, so do we, do we keep an extra time for people to get adjusted? Or is it okay to start? Yeah, the thing is, a couple of things, one is to because if it requires a buy in from people for this particular initiative, you know, like whatever, if it's going to require a buy in, in a sense, people need to be fully on, you know, it's that kind of an initiative, let's say, maybe they can outreach, and you need people to be there, or, you know, to be completely 100%. So for it to be, you know, effective and all that. So then we need to prepare, you know, well ahead, and, and find out if people are willing and if they are, you know, so and let the whole, you know, initiative come from there right from, you know, that level, then it'll be easier to roll out, because change by itself is not as human beings, we're not comfortable with change. Like just yesterday, I was just talking to a couple of, you know, senior folks, and then they were saying that how when they go to church, they'd like to sit in the same place. Right. And they go early, so that they sit, they can sit in that same chair. Right. And for various reasons, one is, you know, it's a shorter walk from the entrance. It's, you know, all those things, you know, they don't have to negotiate and travel, I mean, walk, you know, across people and all that. They're all, they have a problem mobility movement and all that. So the thing is, you know, change is difficult for people. So just we need to be aware of that. But certain things like, you know, service, additional service and all that. Well, you know, if you are convinced that there is a need, and you feel that yes, this need to be tabbed, and you know, you feel at peace, then just need to, you know, share that vision with people and saying, maybe we need to do this, because this is what it is. And then just jump right in, dive right in, and also explain, yes, you know, this is like allowing, you know, it's going to take some time. They will, for this to gain momentum. But, you know, this is what we need to do. You know, we will give it some time. This is what we are doing. This is, we have this opportunity. And let's let's do this. So one is the communication part of it. And the buy in from the people, and moving ahead with the change. So, yeah, so both both sides, both aspects are important. Yes. Yeah. Any other questions? Any other thoughts on this? See, I know that this maybe, like most of us, I don't know, I'm just assuming that may not have witnessed firsthand these kind of transitions or, or been part of it. So, maybe it's a lot of it is just theory, right? So, yeah, so if, if we are in, or we have experienced certain that kind of a situation, maybe we'll have more questions. But it's important for us to know these things, right? Okay. Okay. Now, you know, this, when we said, you know, we're looking at this transition. So, this is a very, this scenario that we looked at is, I mean, a difficult transition, right? Difficult change. Because we're just assuming there's a lot of things going on. But also, a transition need not be a difficult one, right? Where it is a plan, the transition, the people's hearts are also, you know, prepared to fall this particular change transition. And, and then, you know, we lead people through that. So, to manage that change, effectively. Also, you know, it's, it's a, it can be a very pleasant. It can be a very, you know, joyful experience also is going, leading people into that transition. So, it need not be very challenging. And, you know, unpleasant one can be a very joyful transition as well. Where the person who's transitioning out, you know, does so with the blessings of the congregation, you know, goodwill of the congregation and the person who's transitioning in also receives that with, you know, with all that enthusiasm and, and the vision and the fresh thing that bringing in. But yeah, so it can be that, that kind of a scenario as well. But there will always be, you know, a kind of comparison from the people who are being led or certain comparisons, right? Whenever there's a change in, let's say, leadership, there's always a tendency to compare the present one, the previous one, you know, whether for, for better or for worse, right? Okay, this was the strength, this is the weakness, this is what we saw. We never, this person never used to do that. All that is part and parcel of it. And should there be feedback? About this, you know, as a leader, you get to hear about these kind of companies, which we, which we will ultimately, this was, this was, this is how we used to do it. You know, that's how it will come, right? This is how we used to do it. This is how we had so much fun doing this and so on. So don't be bothered by that, right? Don't let it put you down. There is a tendency to get discouraged and say, Oh, man, you know, will I ever measure up? Or will I, you know, so don't compare, you know, you're a different person. If there's anything that, sorry, any change that we can make, which will, you know, without taking the focus off the direction that we are going, right, the things that we need to achieve, if there's anything that we can, if there's anything that we can learn, if there's any change that we can make corrections, maybe, just go ahead and do it, but do it in a positive way, right? And say, Okay, maybe this change just needs to be corrected. And let's, let's do that. So, but be alive to the fact that, or, you know, be open to the fact that this there will be, it's human nature. And so don't be bothered too much. Okay, let's, let's look at another topic, which is productivity. Okay, personal productivity. Okay. So if you look at productivity, it is, it is being fruitful, you know, if you want to use biblical language, it's being fruitful, bearing fruit, right? So a plant will bear fruit, given the right environment, given the right, you know, the nutrition and everything, the protection, it will, it is, it is designed to bear fruit, right? So when it comes to human beings, people like you and I, then, and it's not just the right environment and the nutrition, but it's also involves the will of individuals, like what you do with that. So for us, to understand, you know, first of all, you know, is productivity, you know, that's a big question. We have, when we are having a corporate setting, you know, let's say Pharaoh's quote, kind of, you know, that's the analogy, right? Pharaoh's driving us, Pharaoh's really walking, you know, wanting us to make bricks without straw. And he's really, you know, like a slave trader, oppressing. So, you know, we have a picture of negative picture of productivity. You know, we are, we have targets, we have deadlines. You know, this is the worldly way of doing things. I need to do this, reach there first, be first, to get things better, and so on, day in and day out, that's, that's like a pressure. And when it comes to ministry week, we sometimes just relax the whole thing, you know, just completely let go and be passive, and say, okay, if things happen, let it happen. If not, let it not. You know, everything is in God's hands. Right. Now, completely let go and say, okay, if it happens, or glory to God, if it does not happen, glory to God, right. So let's, let's, let's get an understanding. Okay, what is God? What does God look for? You know, in us, us as believers. Right. Because we need to know that when we understand who we are in Christ, what we have become in Christ, you know, the things that are deposited in our spirit, because who we are in Christ, we realize that we've been given a lot actually. Right. And there's some things that we need to do out of our will, out of our choice, right, to make things happen or journey into some of those things that God has for us. Okay, so we need to understand that. Okay, so let's look at, you know, John chapter 15, and verses one to eight. Okay, John chapter 15, where the Lord says, I am the true wine. And my father is the wine dresser. Every branch in me that does not bear fruit, he takes away every branch that bears fruit, he prunes that it may bear more fruit. You are already clean because of the word that I have spoken to you, abide in me. And I in you, as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the wine, neither can you unless you abide in me. I am the wine, you are the branches. He who abides in me and I in him, there's much fruit. For without me, you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered. And they gather them and throw them into the fire and they are burned. If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. By this, my father is glorified, that you bear much fruit. Okay, that you bear much fruit. So this bearing much fruit, we see it, you know, bearing fruit, bearing much fruit. You see that the father is actually looking. If you if you if you look at the other verses, you see that versus following that John chapter 15. See the father is actually looking for fruit. Okay, looking for fruitfulness in a person's life. So that is the expectation, right? The branch cannot bear fruit of itself. But if it abides in the wine, it bears fruit, not just fruit, it bears much fruit. Okay, that is what the Lord promises. You abides in me and I in him bears much fruit. Without me, you can do nothing. It says that by this, my father is glorified by what that you stay in the wine, that we stay in the wine, that we abide in the wine, and his words abide in us, and we bear much fruit. Okay, so there is that aspect of productivity of fruitfulness, that, well, that the Lord is expecting desiring of us, not as a cruel taskmaster, but as a loving father to see that as we stay with him, as his words stay in us, that we will actually be productive, that we will be fruitful. Okay, and if you if you see that the wine dresser, you know, the father is a wine dresser, and he's actually looking examining the the tree is examining and he's saying, okay, he's making some changes to it. You know, if every branch bears fruit, then he prunes it. He takes away the things that are dead, the things that are with it. So that that's what pruning is. So that it bears even more so that the foliage is even more the fruit bearing is even more, you know, is even more than before. So the father is actually doing that. So just look at your life, you know, he's saying, okay, I want you to be even more fruitful. Okay, I want you to become even more fruitful. And because you're connected to me now, right, the Zoey God kind of life is flowing through you now. And you are the fruit bearing part, you are the branch, and, and I'm doing whatever needs to be done in you so that you can be even more effective, even more productive. Okay. So, so when we look at, you know, the fruitless on the spiritual side, we see that yes, this whole fruitfulness is because of us abiding. You look at the natural side of things, maybe you're working in a, you know, in a place and working in something in an organization. And, well, even the natural side, it means that we are being productive, right? Because, well, what is spiritual affects the natural and vice versa, right? So, so when we, when we look at productivity, you know, let's look at this word efficiency. Okay, being efficient in our work, when we efficient when we increase the way we are efficient, then our output, or what we, what we put forth, right, through our efforts and everything becomes, we can say, okay, it's, it's productive. So efficiency is, you know, if you want to use a formula, it's, it's the output based on what we are using as our input. Okay, so it's the output meaning the result end result, which comes out because of various factors, which is our time, the kind of effort, not just hard work, but the kind of effort, smart effort, the energy, and everything that we put in. Okay, so, so there is this time, effort, creativity, and all that that we put in in order to get the desire result. Okay, in order to be efficient, which leads to better productivity. So, when all these things that we're looking at, you know, when it's time, when it's, you know, physical energy, and, and, and the effort and everything that we put in, we see that, well, as human beings, it is, we have limits, right? There's 24 hours in a day. And in that, there are some, you know, hours which we use for various things, right? We rest, we, we, there's time for food, and intake, nutrition, there's rest, there's leisure, and all that. So there, there is, you know, there is this limitation, there is, okay, we can expend the energy up to a certain point. And after that, we need to rest as well. So, so how can we be, you know, how can we increase our efficiency? Knowing that, okay, there are some limits. Like, there are these limits to this time, there are limits to one's energy. And, you know, depending on how all that person is, or the season of life that person is in, and, you know, other responsibilities, there are some limits. So within that, right? So how can we be even more, how can we be efficient? How can we use time efficiently? How can we use the other sources efficiently, and increase our productivity? Okay, so, so, so productivity, and, you know, being fruitful, need not be, need not have a negative connotation, right, need not have paint, a very negative picture, especially if you're, if you're, if you're a person who worked in that kind of a setting. Okay, now, you know, just personally, I work in a setting where it was extremely, extremely competitive, extremely aggressive. Everybody, you know, it was not a very nice setting. I worked, I worked in across four organizations. I would say, okay, maybe two of those were okay. You know, there was some kind of a good environment. But otherwise, it was, and especially the function of sales, you know, it was all about, how much can you do today? How much can you bring in today? How much? So that is your work actually as a, as a person there. That is all your work was how much can you do? How much can you bring in? So, so when it came to productivity and fruitfulness and all that, you know, it's, it's, if you're, that's kind of a setting, it's, it's, you could actually go back to that. And look at that and, you know, feel all bad about the whole thing of productivity itself. But the fact is this, you know, as believers, that we are, the bigger picture is this, that we are actually spiritually, this is what is happening in the spiritual realm, we have access to the very best, the wisdom of God, we have, you know, we inspired by him, we have empowered by him, so we have, we can actually receive and put it to good use and God and over and above that the Lord is looking at us is saying, okay, I'm encouraging you. And, you know, as a father, I'm encouraging you and as a, you know, as a, as one who has got this access to everything, one who's inheriting all this, and I'm empowering you to do your best so that you can be fruitful. So God is for us. And he's actually encouraging us. So there is that shift, right? So it's not, okay, I, I don't get any value if I'm not productive for a day, but you know, I, I work from a place of value. Okay, work from a place of great self-worth, because of my identity of who I am. And from that place, I bring in, you know, I'm bringing fruitfulness from that place, I work, I make some choices, I make the decisions I yield to the leading of the spirit. I, you know, press on, as Paul would say, to apprehend those things, to lay hold that for which Christ has laid hold of me, right? And it requires effort. Okay, number one, it requires effort. It doesn't just happen. Okay, it requires effort. It requires time, us investing time. It requires that it requires our energy. So please don't come for a human being, a person, it doesn't come as it's not an unlimited resource in the sense, yeah, we need to, you know, rest, refresh, and get back. So within that time, you know, how can we be very, very, how can we be efficient? So here are some practical things. So with that, you know, that's the, that's the background. And we just took some time to talk about that background, so that we, you know, in our wanting to be efficient, we don't do it out of a different context. Okay, it's not that you will, you know, we, we will gain a self worth or we will gain we perform so that we will be accepted by God, none of that. We know the context. It is from that place of reassurance that we actually do more that we actually stretch, right, and bring in more from a place of great reassurance. Okay, so that's why it is taking some time to dwell on that. Okay, so here are some practical things that we can do. First of all, we organize. Okay, we looked at organize, you know, how we need to organize people, how we need to organize finances, you know, our ministry, right, so that we can actually be better at what we do. So simple things like be organized so that you can we can be efficient. Okay, so organize would mean, you know, different things in all the tasks that, you know, that we're looking at, maybe ministerial tasks, maybe things, maybe you're working in an organization, you know, how can you be better organized so that you can be efficient? So one of the simple things is, you know, access to information, right, we need information in order to be effective. It could be information about people, it could be information about, you know, whatever, different things, but is that categorized and is that easily accessible? Okay, I guess we'll take a break and then we'll come back to this. Thank you.