 So hard with when people approach you and probably a lot do you work a lot of with students and they say I want to be a better designer. I want to become a better service designer. What is the most important thing you tell them? watching people And could you elaborate? Watch people and do what they see what they do and then you can find out What isn't really good enough, but they do it and they're good There's an edge leading to do something better It's really being curious About but it's have a good eye to watch people have a good eye and be curious. Yeah