 So unless you're living under a rock then by now, you know that Donald Trump was banned from Twitter and expectedly he lost his mind In a way that nobody is surprised by But it's just it's really nice to see like we're reaching the end of his administration and after all of The pain that he's inflicted on you know the United States and the world It's nice to see some poetic justice So Politico reports president Donald Trump has many prized possessions But few seemed to inspire as much personal joy as his Twitter feed Trump routinely boasted of the social media bullhorn he possessed He credited it with launching his political trajectory and he used it as a tool to lacerate his foes on Friday night He lost it and then he lost his mind the president is ballistic a senior administration Official said after Twitter permanently took down his account citing the possibility that it would be used in the final 12 days Of Trump's presidency to incite violence the official said Trump was scrambling to figure out what his options are So too was much of the political universe which has become blurry-eyed Obsessive about Twitter these past four years as Trump used the medium to fire advisors sink Legislative initiatives encourage social duress and lastly praise the scores of maga faithful Just days after hundreds of them violently ransacked the capital in a statement issued by the White House Trump said he'd been negotiating with various other sites while we also look at the possibilities of building out our own Platform in the near future But aides did not reveal what plans were in the works when Trump's eldest son Don Jr Offered up a URL to those hoping to keep tabs on his father's whereabouts It was a site that had been purchased in 2009 and in recent years a place where his books were sold for those who did sign up An email was sent plugging his latest book liberal privilege So it's all a grift like it doesn't matter what the circumstances are Trump and his family will use whatever situation to try to make money off of it And it's like you think that Trump supporters would be insulted by this But they're not smart enough to figure it out that like these folks are using you They don't actually care about you or the country now There was an image from Fox News that I got a share it shows all of the websites that Trump was banned from I mean this is this is pretty comprehensive like he is not welcome on any platforms And of course we had the memes showing that he was banned from porn hub and only I love this I absolutely love this not only do I think it's funny that Trump was banned I think it's good now I've got to address the folks who are against Trump getting banned because My reaction on Twitter was that this was funny and of course, you know I was laughing about it and I was sharing the memes about it But some folks even folks who purport to be on the left they claim that this is bad And I've been called a fascist because I'm happy that a fascist was banned from Twitter Doesn't that make sense if you are against fascism you can be a fascist if you support fascist tactics But that's not the situation and there were even some folks who were like Photoshopping images of Donald Trump with like duct tape over his mouth with the words censored on it And if you believe this you are not a serious person And I say this because this is not like some ordinary case where some like random MAGA chud was deplatformed This isn't this isn't a normal situation We're talking about the president of the United States here If you incited a riot in the same way that Donald Trump did do you think that you would be de-platformed off of Twitter? Yeah, I think you would I think you'd all expect we'd all expect that and not only that we'd be in jail So the fact that some folks are like angry that Trump is de-platformed and seem to be like going out of their way to like Fane outrage Even folks on the left. I find it bizarre, but I don't think it's very many folks on left But let me just say that if you are one of the folks who believe that because right-winger X In this instance Donald Trump was de-platformed that'll just lead to more censorship on the left Like let's try to entertain that argument a little bit But I don't want to dive too deep and go down that rabbit hole because this is not like a unique situation Usually when it comes to de-platforming it's a case-by-case situation. It depends But this is not like this is a very different a unique circumstance So the fact that there's any question even on the left is bizarre to me So what is freedom of speech or as the kids are calling it nowadays free speech? Well, it is freedom to say what we want without fear of government retribution It's the first man, right? We all we all know this but in america We kind of like use our sense of american entitlement to apply free Uh peach I literally said free speech to apply free speech to like instances where it's not appropriate So if I am protected from the government prosecuting me for saying something that they don't like That doesn't necessarily mean that i'll be protected from private corporation So if I walk into a cosco and I yell racist things or I scream about politics or I act like a fool And they escort me out. That doesn't mean that my first amendment rights were violated That doesn't mean that my free speech rights were violated That means that a private company didn't like what I said while I was on their properties So that's not a first amendment violation And I think that even if you expand the principle of free speech to private platforms as well Which some people do some people don't it kind of depends This is still a situation that's very different because even if we accept that You know the first amendment only applies to what the government says and that the government can't prosecute us for speech That we use there's still limits limits to that as well like we can't Lie about people we can't commit libel or slander. We can't yell fire in a crowded elevator So protected speech It's pretty absolute in america, but there are some limits and trump breached that limit We are not allowed to incite insurrections if we did that we would be jailed So this isn't about trump losing his freedom of speech This isn't freedom of speech You don't have the freedom of speech in america to incite an insurrection and that's exactly what he did That is exactly what he did See if I Said that uh, there was a fire in a building on this street and somebody called the ambulance or the fire department And uh, that wasn't actually a thing You could say that my speech led to people taking action And trump by saying that the election was stolen from him Led to people taking action on his behalf you could draw a direct line between point a and point b He incited a riot that my friends is not protected speech So the fact that donald trump repeatedly used his platform on twitter to stoke the flames This led to the violent insurrection that we saw last wednesday. It's a direct result of his Actions so by him getting the platformed his freedom of speech Was not violated No, you don't have the freedom of speech to incite literal insurrections To incite folks to take up arms stage the capital and literally stage a coup We don't have the freedom of speech to do that The government doesn't give us that right privately owned platforms do not allow us to have that right It's a limit of free speech. So the folks feigning outrage over donald trump getting banned I find it bizarre Now individuals will make this case and they'll say well, look, it's not necessarily about donald trump I I see you. I hear you mike. You know trump. He did something bad Yes, and I can understand why you want to punish donald trump individually But you know these things it turns into a slippery slope because if you punish donald trump then these these tech Oligarchs they're gonna say well, you know, we got to appear fair So if we're going to ban trump then we've got to ban bernie sanders And you know, this is just going to facilitate more and more left-wing censorship And you know the left they truly challenge power and institutions in this country So, you know, they're going to find more reasons to ban us and to that I say um A slippery slope Is a logical fallacy The left is already getting censored and the platformed at Uh in greater numbers than right wingers. That's already happening It's a common occurrence That's a common occurrence. That's that's already happening And whether or not trump is banned from twitter isn't necessarily going to change that I think it is a legitimate conversation if you want to talk about whether or not big tech has too much power Yeah, that's true. I would agree with you. They do I think that whether or not, you know, uh, these these companies should be instituting things like deplatforming as a legitimate You know a measure against bad faith actors on the platform. Sure. I think you can have that conversation Um, even you know about right wingers in a way when they break the to s on these websites Sure, you can have that conversation But this is such a unique case like we're talking about the president of the united states and to defend him and say he Shouldn't be banned Functionally what you're arguing for is a two-tiered system of justice And we're not talking about like justice in terms of our judicial system You're basically saying that there should be a different standard for rich people and as a leftist That's not a leftist position You shouldn't be in favor of trump staying on twitter because we should treat everyone equally there should be You know the same exact standard that's applied universally if I incited a riot I get deplatformed and I expect that if trump incites a riot He should be deplatformed as well You don't get special powers because you're the president and so to like argue on behalf of donald trump To stay on that platform what you're functionally arguing for wittingly or unwittingly is for the president of the united states to have more power than average citizens Because again If you incite a riot you're gonna go to jail If he incites a riot what there should just be no consequences So if you don't think trump should be deplatformed what should happen as a result of him breaking the law What should happen? Should he just remain on twitter and possibly incite more riots? I just don't understand what you want there to happen and it's funny because you know Folks Usually these are the same actors, you know, they'll say well look see trump was banned and i'm already proven right because now Left winger x was banned and I think it was red scare pod that was banned also I don't know who they are. I'm not familiar with them Uh, but here's the thing left wing podcasts and personalities are getting banned all the time like you and I We know people who've been banned on twitter. This isn't something new. So it's weird to me that the only time Some folks on twitter Will defend Left wingers and point at them getting deplatformed as bad is to prove why right ringers shouldn't be deplatformed They'll say well see trump was deplatformed and as a direct result red scare pod was deplatformed as well except Correlation doesn't necessarily equal causation and the same folks who use these examples To prop up their argument that deplatforming of right wingers will lead to deplatforming of left wingers They never actually like speak up on behalf of left wingers when they're deplatformed like how many folks who are against this Said anything when the serfs was deplatformed off of youtube. Thankfully they got their channel back But that wasn't the case how many like free speech warriors were speaking up on behalf of them Now had the serfs been deplatformed when a popular right winger was deplatformed I think that maybe folks would have talked about that because that could be used as evidence that their argument is correct And the people who are pro censorship are wrong But I mean it's It's not that simple like that's not a very persuasive argument. That's an oversimplification So if you are a leftist, I think that like your reaction to this should be pretty pretty straightforward Uh, did he break the law? Yes, do you believe that folks who break the law even if they're popular politicians or powerful politicians or popular people Should they be held to the same standard as peasants? Uh, yeah, then okay. This is fine. So let's laugh about it It's not a big deal No need to you know, uh die on this hill of a fascist president with a lot of power who incited an insurrection shouldn't be banned Like I don't get why folks are making this their number one issue And if you truly care about censorship, which you should then there's a left-wing way to do this like Freaking out every time a fascist is banned isn't necessarily the best thing that a leftist should be doing if they genuinely care About you know freedom of speech and the principle of freedom of speech You can start talking about antitrust and how we break up these big tech oligarchs and monopolies and whatnot and reign in their power regulate them more nationalize them possibly I don't know but like freaking out fainting outrage whenever a right-winger Is deplatformed that doesn't necessarily seem like the best use of our time Especially considering that the fascists would never speak out on your behalf the fascists don't believe in freedom of speech The fascists want to deplatform you and they would laugh if you were deplatformed as you you know defend them And I know the response will be well. Yeah, but I'm just I'm just principled. I'm not a hypocrite Okay, well great then actually find a way to like enhance speech in the United States And you know target, you know, these actual big tech companies in a leftist way not by like defending right-wingers and fascists when they're deplatformed That's all I'll say about this. I think Trump getting banned is hilarious and I hope that he is mad I hope he's stewing over this I hope he is miserable that he can't You know tweet any longer and and criticize people and incite insurrections Good this should have happened a lot sooner than it did You could support the humanist report at patreon.com Slashed humanist report But trust me I'd have way more supporters at patreon if that was my podcast said