 Hello everyone and welcome back to enter the ether of the weekly podcast all about the upcoming third-person moment Moba theory old clash of souls. I am your host the man goose is joining me as always my friend and co-host Jelly knees. How you doing jelly? I'm doing fantastic man goose after what 51 weeks You can't say the intro. You can't say the word moba of all things. I Have nailed the okay. Maybe I have to nail the outro, but I nailed the intro every time All right, it's the out of 51 times not not anymore. Yeah. Yeah, it's not bad. It's not a bad average Fantastic man, who's happy to be here man. So you guys had your community corner very recently a lot of great information Probably the most important thing that we should put out immediately another stress test 18 December Hoping for this cuz I was like man if they go Ryan to Priyapa without testing the game again Of course, I mean, there's no guarantee that Priyapa is gonna be just constantly up and playable and all that But I'm sure it'll go down for maintenance and patches and all and all sorts of stuff, but Yeah, I was I was very apprehensive that there wasn't gonna be another stress test before the for the Priyapa But there is there's gonna be one 18 December And if you had a key if you gained access to the last stress test You get access to this stress test, which I thought was really cool of you guys Yeah, absolutely. It's we want to it's the point is to stress it right if we break at the same point then clearly We didn't do our job So we want to start kind of at that point and then increase from there and and it's also There's definitely a proof of concept to the community over it of like in a month We were able to turn this around at the same point that we broke before is now playable and now we're going forward from there Right. I'm just happy because like I had already messaged like the like I got the the keys from you guys to give The gift to my community and I had like a little drawing in my discord and had my winners I was I felt back because a lot of them got keys and were very excited But they didn't get off work until after the test was already done for so I was like I messaged them told them like If they give me keys for this next one I will make sure you get keys like if they do another another stress test And but I don't have to do that now they they're key. Nope. They're key will work. They're all in man That's awesome. That yeah that That was just thinking that would suck so hard to win a key to something so like yes I finally get to play ethereal and then like nope You know working time We absolutely wanted to Do the best we could to alleviate some of those issues by just letting everybody in that already has access Right on that's greatly appreciated. It's one of those. We don't want you to have to play the lottery twice. Yeah Congratulations you won. We're gonna take it back and hopefully you win the second time. All right. It just feels bad That's like winning the lottery but not getting there in time to get the money. Oh, man, no Sorry, we're closed the word government Nope All right, so again, I want to say 18 December 18 December. That's the And if you guys aren't signed up for the newsletter Go do that on the website and top right says newsletter Click that takes you down into your email if you aren't sure if you're part of the newsletter already It will tell you if your email is already in the list So either way go do it just to make sure that you're in there to get the chance for the access key That's something I kind of wanted to address tonight I've had a lot of people tell me they've had problems with the with the website just like in general like loading slowly and I know one guy said that he didn't want to sign up because it said the website wasn't secure So they didn't he didn't feel comfortable The website is secure now That was an issue we were having with when they switched over the website several months ago at this point To different a different hosting service There was an issue with the communication with the hosting service to get it secured Which has since been resolved. So it is actually it is secured now. It does have a secured domain Okay, excellent. Excellent. That's that's really really good news because it does that just portrays Undying is being untrustworthy if you don't have a secure website Absolutely And so if there if you guys are having issues with the website Please either send myself a message or go to the website support channel in our discord and let us know Because sometimes it's if we don't realize there's an issue It's hard to fix it and so it if you guys encounter anything Please let us know. We're happy to take a look into anything we can and war dance is usually really it's war dance, right? That's usually usually really quick With his response and trying to yeah exactly And then uh, so the hero release order that's you guys already also talked about that So we've got our seven now And then after that's going to be grognard, correct, but then after that is x shield Zero Then malware and then acheron Correct. A lot of people seem to have forgotten about acheron Acheron man goose acheron at acheron act Okay, acheron Gotta get all the phlegm in there Uh, but yes, those are the next four afterwards. There's no defined order between those four It's just determining That those are the four that are coming afterwards and then who's ready first gets to be the first one that comes out Oh, so that's not the exact order correct So we could get Malware and then acheron and then Zero and then xl it's spitting all over myself Okay, so I thought this was like that's the set order of release But grognark is definitely next right grognark is definitely next. Okay. Good because I'm really really excited to play grognark Yeah, over any of these four really Of course, I don't know the kids those Those the next four those are all in production right now in various stages in the current process But like I said, whichever one of those is ready to come out first We'll we'll give out more information accordingly with that this question got brought up I think it was during the community corner in chat Doesn't it make sense to kind of halt production on new heroes? Until you can get all the mo cap stuff done Because I know you guys have the mo cap suit now right Yes, we do so a lot of the mo cap actually is already being done for those heroes Okay, so it's kind of it depends on what states the animations were already completed for them by the time we received the mo cap If the animations were mostly done We complete the remaining ones and then kind of similar to the pre alpha seven We'll have to go back and complete the initial animations that were already completed But if they were not completed then almost all of their animations are being done in the mo cap So it just depends on what state the animations were already in. Okay Because a lot of them were already in progress by the time we received the suit Cool right on well that answers that question and then um, you guys just were just completely 100 transparent with Explaining what exactly happened with the stress test which I didn't understand all of it, of course But it was still nice to get that upfront explanation and find out exactly what went wrong It gives me a more of a warm fuzzy that you guys are able to fix it Absolutely, and it's like it's gifts are broke down all the different reasons as to why what happened happened um And mostly comes down to a communication issue between different services between Matchmaking in the back end between matchmaking in the database between the servers and matchmaking Right and it's a communication breakdown to an extent And so it's just fixing those communication channels and then it should be good to go from there Was it driving you insane? A little bit, but it's fine And let's see website already covered that Mo cap suit where I covered that changed to the mini map. Um I didn't quite understand this the first Go through with when I was watching the the live But as I watched Rewatch the um the community corner. I understood it a little better So you guys are thinking of keeping the mini map the way it is where you only see what lane you're in And you can scroll to see the other lanes. However, there'll be like Just like when you're in a mobile or something you hit the m key and a map will pop up and it'll be opaque So you can still see what's going on, but you still see the entire map I mean that may not be the fix, but that's kind of what was proposed by skifter Yeah, that's something we're looking into now. Um getting it into our tester's hands to see how it feels is being able to assign a key Or even when you press tab to see the scoreboard, maybe it's just like underneath the scoreboard as well Uh being able that you have a way that at a glance if you're like what's going on in iceline right now And you can just quickly press the button look at it and go okay and move on Uh, but then you'll always have one of the three lanes on your screen at all times So it's just trying to find a good balance Because part of it is we know our MOBA is different by having the three completely separated lanes And so putting all three lanes on screen takes up an enormous amount of screen space Trying putting enough put them putting them up there And making the details visible that they're at it's actually useful to have Because in order to shrink it down You could be like, oh, yeah, we have all three, but then there's nothing there's no information there for you And so it's finding that balance between giving information but still keeping it to the unique style of what the game is right Could you not just make a bigger mini map that encompasses everything and make that transparent in the corner? Not transparent not together because of the way that the lanes Yeah, because of the way that the lanes work and are structured They don't fit together in a piece like that. And so it's just The sizing is just all Complicated and hard to explain skip third. I went ours trying to get this version of the mini map to work So it's so Elysium's not pangea. All right. It is not it is not connected. No, I think so iceland didn't break off from void due to tonic Plates no, there's three separate places that just happen to float together and become one place Okay, right and blame the elders if you want I do I will blame the elder I'll give him a piece of my mind. Yeah, there you go Uh, and the the same accounts that you made for the last stress test will Carry over into this one. Yep. All good to go. So that's you don't have to recreate your account You don't have to do any of that kind of stuff Um, you can just log into the same one. You should be good to go Here's a minor annoyance that I have My account username and just display name are different things And sometimes I don't remember what my account name was Well, that's man goose. You could have set it up to be the same thing. I told you that could you yeah Did you tell me that used to be that way? But when you created your new account for the stress test? Yes Okay Well, man goose doesn't read. He doesn't read my announcements. He doesn't read instructions. He doesn't he just he just man goose is it I I read announcements and listen to instructions from everybody but you Well, okay that I believe Okay, so that there's a there's my tip for everybody when you're setting up your account make your username and your Account name the same the same And let's see Oh, yeah This one this guy brought up people have not forgotten the overseer class No, they have not Do you know anything about the overseer class? Do I yes, um, it's very What I know is very low level because it's something that hasn't been planned to be implemented anytime soon So from the marketing aspect, I don't need to know very much about it because it's not something I'm announcing next week. So it's It's kind of one of those like we've got bigger fish to worry about right now And then when we get to that fish, we'll talk about it more and Explain more what that is but like in a pinch. I could bribe you with enough dr. Pepper to get a little bit of info On the overseer class. Yes. Yes in a pinch. You could bribe me with enough dr. Pepper theoretically What about the dr. Pepper barbecue sauce from sheets? What if Oh, dude, that is pretty good not gonna lie We don't have sheets on the west coast. So it makes me sad. Oh, that sucks. That's the best I don't they are they're incredible dude I'm sure you guys have something on the west coast that's sheets like No, you don't really Oh, you're not really that that's garbage Sheets is incredible. I when I went to Pittsburgh and went to sheets for the first time. I was blown away New sheets podcast incoming We'll talk all about sheets We'll let them on twitter and be like, hey I'll talk about their new products Sheets is opening in this town Perfect very uninteresting podcast And let's see controller support you're saying that it's not going to be in there for the alpha release It's not looking like it's going to be there on day one, but it's definitely a priority for us So it's going to be as we can implement it Shortly thereafter. Okay. I know a lot of people are looking forward to controller and that's kind of like To me, that's one of the points of having a third person MOBA So that you can play it on a controller because you can't We saw what happened to Genesis. You can't really have a top down that you can play on controller It just doesn't work out Yeah, so one thing I have done recently just a test is knowing that we weren't going to have controller support is there are third-party programs you can download That will translate your controller into mouse and keyboard movements. Yeah Um, and those actually do work in the game. So I did try that out recently It was a very bare bones test. It was just a does this work Yes, it does. Okay Call of the day So for the time being some people may want to look into that until we actually get the definitive controller support in the game What about voice activation? I know you did that in a game of fault one time where you had all your abilities Voice activated that shit was awesome. By the way, I have not tried that yet But maybe for this next coming upcoming stress test, I'll play some ethereal games with voice activation One of the best streams I've ever Q or People randomly joining in why is he just saying Q a lot like Yeah, that was awesome Now let me play talos with voice activation. Oh, yeah, that sounds like a great way to lose my marbles Q Q again E E again E E Like Well, I mean, yeah, like in game with talos you could Q pretty much constantly. You just walk and like Q Q Q Q Q Q That's gonna be shad's favorite character Oh my gosh, that was bad that was bad makers That was awesome. No um, but yeah, no, it's All of that kind of stuff we talked about I know you and I talked about it on for the minions but we haven't talked about it here is The new map and the new item images that we got were also Really cool to be able to share with people um And lots of improvements still being done on the new map, of course that those are I was like early images, but those are Not the final final product in terms of completion So a lot some of that may change but for the most part, that's the general idea is The updated lanes and how they look it looks amazing and That was one question from the community that I don't remember what the answer was You guys still plan to have weather effects, right? Correct. So how's that going to affect the new map design? So each the current idea because weather isn't implemented yet Is that each lane will have slight variations in terms of what the weather looks like So if it's just as an example if it's raining on fire lane It may create steam because it's on the fire lane And so it's slight variations like that is what we're kind of thinking about for now But until the system gets fully fleshed out we don't have a Full plan as to what that looks like. Okay It's still pretty cool. Yeah, it'd also be cool if marina just was just way less effective in fire lane That's what you said you wanted to dried out marina while she's walking around fire lane Like It shrinks immediately evaporates if she still had her water hair it like dries out. She's just bald I Love it big fan. I'm gonna push for water hair now just so we can do that Oh, shit, um, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah This got brought up the premium myth pack, which is part of the patreon tiers I love this because it's kind of like the god pack from smite Like you get you pay one time you get unlocked All the myths but not only that but you also get their first skin Yeah, so that's that's there's two different versions. There's the regular myth pack and the premium myth pack The regular is just the myths themselves and then the premium Which I believe is unlocked at the highest tier of patreon. So the 800 cumulative tier Um, the premium myth pack gives you yeah the first their myth and their first skin forever And that's something that I actually pulled from paragon because that's what I paid when I got access to the closed beta for paragon closed alpha one of them Um, I got a hero pack that gave me their first skin and all the heroes as they released And that was huge for me. That was something that I was always excited to get into game Even if I didn't like the skin I knew I had skin variation just off the drop and I always got the new hero at the same time That's pretty awesome. I think that's a great idea And uh, okay, so the items you guys went over what all the items did but like I don't quite remember everything you guys talked about But um So you don't you don't listen you don't read announcements You don't read instructions and you don't listen to me when I talk on community corners now Okay, but I'm I'm team jelly knees not team skifter. So that's true. All right. All right. You win you make up for it It's evened out now I don't care about all your information stuff. I just want you to murder people with malaya for me All right can do But yeah the item art looks fantastic looks absolutely amazing most of what was starter items The only thing was the the ring of protection which I brought up during the stream the bullets Pinging off of it must be tiny or that ring must be huge It's a ring for a ron so it's more of a bracelet for him that he just Puts his fist through it and then it just he's using it. It's uh wonder woman's bracers that she's just deflecting That's what I think it it's a ring that that would only fiddled malaya with her giant mitts Yeah, really cool design though like the little the the little deformed rounds pinging off of it and stuff and then the um The claw with the with the Blood bloody claw. Yeah. Now. I can't remember the name. I'm pretty sure it's bloody claw. Yeah They just all looked really really cool Yeah, and I mentioned it in the stream But the thing the more I look at them the more I love it is the the imperfections of them all like the the smudges on the the lucky coin or the kind of metal reflection of bloody claws like they're all Designed to look as realistic as possible despite still being that kind of surreal art at the same time. Yeah Yeah You guys's artwork is just like head and shoulders above anybody else in this 3d MOBA space And that includes the established ones like smite Um, it includes paragon too the item art for ethereal is better than anything paragon ever had So people might argue that the card system whenever they had three card system had some pretty they did have some cool art They had some cool cards, but I don't those are like splashards though. Those are a much grander scale than just a item Yeah, yeah, yeah And even even still I don't think they were quite as cool as what Ethereal has it's just In my opinion. I mean, that's all All right, who on the art team is paying you man goose I don't know anybody on the art team No, but I completely agree with you. The arts is head and shoulders above See what we've seen from other like he said established MOBAs the other para zombies in the space And the fact that it's like that but it's still going to be a small thing in your corner of the corner of your screen I think is huge like it just Sells that every we're trying to make every aspect of this game pristine And not Because oh it's gonna be small so we don't need to worry about that. No, it's gonna be this like everything has to Be at a certain level or above That's really the goal we're shooting for that's what that you definitely don't see too many people complain about is the ui like people loved Ui they have I mean maybe some small things like this color could be different or this could be but like the ui for ethereal was just like Way better than false first ui The predecessors first ui then over primes first ui. It was just way more fleshed out Inintuitive than any of those other games and that's a pretty good head start ui I have discovered is far more important to people than I had ever It's not that important to me for real like I could I could do with some just random boxes and All right, I'm gonna put a toggle in there of Mangos ui and you just press the button it just boxes everywhere and everything is terrible and it cuts up everything But like five percent of your screen Sounds perfect. You heard it here first. Mangos wants that ui But oh, I mean like I don't need to be all fancy and stuff You know what I mean? Oh don't no. Don't worry. I'll go into microsoft paint I'll design a ui for you and put a checkbox in there. Okay. Okay, you see that's fine. That's fine with me I'll go and be fancy. I promise you that ui is just not that important to me, but it's it's very important to a lot of people like I'm not I'm not denying that I think a big thing for ui Once you get to higher levels of play Is it does make a slight competitive advantage right being able to have Translucency in one part of the ui Versus it be just being solid can obstruct a part of your screen You may not see a flying lia go by until far too late. You may not see like it gives just those slight advantages Just by having some of that cleaner ui and and better design across the board Uh, any any chance we can get um customizable ui. I think I'm pretty sure that was one of the questions That was asked her in the it's on the plan definitely that we want as customizable ui as we can absolutely provide I think in the MOBA space The gold standard for customizable ui is smite and every time I see smites customizable ui I'm blown away at how much control they give Because I'm just like you can move that wherever you want you can set translucent c to zero You can set like you can just do whatever you please on it and I think that's incredible Yeah, so for me, that's what I push like when we start Implementing that customizable ui. I'm gonna be like I want all of these features. Give me all of these features I won't use half of them, but just the fact to have them is huge for a lot of people I Back back in my war to war craft days. They had a lot of mods where you could just design your own ui And holy crap was that helpful when playing like you could have everything you wanted If you wanted like I had it centered around my character like everything I needed to know was right there I just lost your camera. Oh We're back. He's back But yeah, I like that Um Have we talked about the map images on ete? We've talked about an ftm. I talked about them with everywhere the show talked about everywhere else Yeah, that's what I I guess it's kind of what I forgot about them I fear we'd already we had already covered them But yeah, the new map images like we've already talked about a little bit with the weather But they're amazing like ice lane as looks like snow covered and Fire lane looks burned out and desolate and then Even the improvements to void lane. I think are great. Um, I kind of mentioned it during the the community corner, but It's less visually busy like that's been my problem with the map a little bit Is there's so many different colors and textures and everything that i'm a little since Overwhelmed in my senses But like this was very like you've got the path which is like a dark brown You've got some green foliage and then you've got some blue flowers and like there's not that much deviation between That's still really pretty. Oh still looks really good But I don't get that sensory overload that I got from the map before Mm-hmm, and that's something that the level design team In the early versions of the map was really trying to hone down a giving each Lane its own color palette for one thing that way there's no question what lane you're in right you've got Kind of a lush vegetation in void You've got the blue ice Snow feeling in ice and then you've got the kind of cracked gray black in fire um And I think they've done a great job in establishing those aesthetics For each lane to make it more definitive But at the same time simplifying it to make it very Easy to understand very intuitive less sensory overload in terms of coloration and all that kind of stuff Right, and I think it just fits better in some of the testing we've done on the new map being on Voiling kind of gives you this like fresh feeling like I don't know how to describe it other than that because the greens they're not like Can't I can't think of another way to describe them other than this but they're not this like Lime vomit green color in a lot of places They're actually like a lush forest green, which is a lot easier on the eyes for one thing But also just more pleasing to look at and just feels better overall I like how you say this with your live green background I never said I was easy on the eyes My one concern um has to do a little bit with accessibility as someone who experiences pretty frequent migraines I think if I were to play on the ice lane for a couple hours It would probably be it would get to be a little a little much a little much brightness Yeah, and that's something accessibility something we're tackling right now actually in The future we're like because we're already working on like colorblind settings. And so we're trying to increase the accessibility options and a brightness slider is something we've been in talks in talk about Trying to determine a better way because there are absolutely moments on ice where you're standing there and you're going like, okay Cool. Thank you. I can't Thanks And so it's finding ways to combat that is kind of what we're going through right now too And for now, I'll just keep sunglasses on my desk. I'm gonna break it on the ice But you take them off when you're on any other lane the only one to ice. Okay, I'm ready like You can tell when streamers are in ice lane just by looking at their Oh, he's got sunglasses on. He's a nice one. Yep So, uh, there's been a little bit of a redesign to it seemed to to some of the lanes A little bit here and there Like the ice cave is more of an ice cave instead of a giant snowball on the side of the lane Um, there's slight redesign in terms of lane structure. They're not quite as straight shots as they used to be There's a little bit of a bench to them around the the edges Uh void lane is in a straight shot as much as it used to be it kind of has a little more curves um So it's it's little improvements here in there, but nothing super crazy drastic overall, right Good to go All right, I think that about exhausts everything that I wanted to talk about unless you had anything else I can't think of anything else stress test. I mean, it's It's gonna be exciting. I'm really looking forward to this one to how many days is that How many days? For lack of a better way to put it it's eight days after fault patch 14 Ha Uh, I I don't know how many days specifically that's 20 days from right now not when you're watching this But right meow All right, 18 days from the day you're watching this Start the countdown we're shad shad needs to make like a countdown to And then just post it everywhere Poor shad we've been beating up one of this What no shad's great. You've been beating up on him I didn't beat up what about said he was gonna like tell us because of all the cues Other than shad is on team skifter Oh, is he really a huge shad fan? Yeah, he is unfortunately shit, I thought I thought better van We all did we're all a little disappointed. So I get it All right, well, that's going about closing out anything you got the plug jelly Uh, just streams as of yesterday. We did marvellous monday. It's always weird that we're two days Whatever, uh, we do marvellous monday every week on my stream at eight o'clock mountain time And it's always a good time. So it's super fun. And then we play the previous week's winner Gets to pick a game for me to play on stream. So it's always exciting. It's always super fun What game did you play yesterday, which is in the future from now? Uh, I think it's some like weird Western meme game. I don't quite know what she chose for me, but it was It's a weird From what I've seen on steam And now guys if if you keep thinking to yourself, man I wanted to participate marvellous monday. I completely forgot about it Just go go follow jelly on twitch and and subscribe to him on youtube and you'll get notified and then you can You can always show up. Wow Mangus has started out with not plugging anything even for himself and now he's plugging other people. Wow I've always plugged other people or that's pretty good. That's how I have two kids The jokes I thought you were gonna say it and I was like nah, he wouldn't he wouldn't do that. That was a literal dad joke So many layers All right. Well, that's going to close that out for this week Close it out on a not so great note Okay December 18th folks sign up for the new which is sign up for the newsletter You're signed up for the for a chance to get in there if you already got in there once You're going to get in there again and hopefully this will go Way way better so you can all join us as we enter the ether man Shout out to channel members foolish blood hunter jelly knees me all mixed for men stunt and ferret