 Week five was definitely a weird one, where I felt simultaneously lucky and unlucky across my lineups in daily fantasy football, where I had some good touchdown variants at Dalvin Cook. I had some big plays with Gabe Davis, but also felt like I got a bit lucky with guys like Ramon Drew Stevenson. Well, I guess I got lucky there and unlucky because he had all the yards, but no touchdowns, Alvin Camero, no touchdowns, but is that lucky when it's Taysom Hill and he could take things away? So I felt both lucky and unlucky. It's kind of the most confusing, profitable sled I've had in my entire life. We're gonna break things down, let you know what we learned in week five, if we learned anything, try to spin things forward and take a look ahead at the week six salaries on the FanDuel main slate. This is the Heechak Fantasy Podcast, powered by Numberfire. That's right here on the FanDuel Podcast Network and Numberfire.com. My name is Jim Sotus. I am a senior writer and analyst. Ward Numberfire joined here as always by Brandon Gedula. He is a senior managing editor of Numberfire.com. Brandon, week five to me at least was very odd. So how are you doing today? Yeah, it was strange. I felt like I was doing great at times and felt like I was doing terrible at times and it was really hard to like pin down, I guess, even like as the slate unfolded. Obviously, you know, you can't play everyone. So there are some guys who, you went exposure to and you just didn't quite get there. There are some guys who you got a little bit too heavy on and who maybe don't really touch the ball a lot, like a Devon Singletary, despite your team playing from ahead from the get-go. No, I've decided that was bad process in my part to use Singletary. We can just do this now because why not? He is a guy who is dependent on passing game work and they were 14 point favorites and I used him. Like, I should have seen that coming. And I did to an extent because I faded him in a couple of single entry lineups, but like, I think that's an own goal. Sort of. I try to be level-headed and not just be like, okay, I got like, this didn't work out in my favor, but I don't want to like question the process. I question the process behind being high in Devon Singletary. I think I should have like, so I had I think, I don't know what I had from an exposure perspective, but like my exposure level to Singletary was higher than it was to Stevenson. And I feel like I should have had those be more even in retrospect. That I could see. I really wound up to Stevenson. And again, we got lucky due to the Harris injury for that to work out quite the way that it did. But, you know, he checked all the boxes. I still think for Singletary, you would anticipate a running back who is the team's primary back playing from ahead. He's a P by no primary back in name only. Okay. Well, I'm just saying you would, it's one thing. Okay. So like there's descriptive stats and it's like, okay, he doesn't get a lot of carries, but in a game where they're favored by so much, again, that is misleading for running backs. It is sort of a, I don't think I'm misnomers the right term, but it is early on a Monday. So I don't, don't hold that against me, but you don't really want your running backs to be favored by too much, because then the game gets out of hand. I thought a heavier spread would actually benefit Singletary because he would finally get some extra carries because they wouldn't need to throw as much. That was the issue. I mean, the yardage was like okay for the salary. And you would think a team that scored as much as it did would have had more bunny touches for a running back in the red zone, but. So the counterpoint would be that when he had the increased snap rate the past two weeks, they were in a negative script. They were down against Miami, down against Baltimore. They won that game against Baltimore, but they were down for a lot of that game. Maybe he is someone we use in like tight games against Kansas City, potentially this up to a week. Maybe he's better there, but like also I've, he's dead to me and I've crossed him off. So I can't, he's in there. He has been the single Tuddy slash double Tuddy nickname is dead. He is now dead in single digits because he's not allowed to score more than 10 points. I know he's done it this year. Don't, don't fact check me bro. But he's dead in single digits until further notice. We'll talk about other people outside of Devon single Terry. We'll talk about Remandre. We'll talk about Kenneth Walker and more throughout the podcast for today. But first a reminder to make sure you are subscribed to the number of fire daily fantasy podcast wherever you get your podcast PGA. I'll be back on that again tomorrow for the first time in a decade. No idea what the field is. No idea where they are. 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Now that does mean that hey going forward probably not going to play at 90% snap rate as they get more guys active but he's probably going to be a featured, featured back in this offense. Stevenson 25 carries two targets, 89% snap rate, 175 yards of scrimmage and four out of 10 red zone chances. Just two targets for Stevenson but he did run around on two thirds out of the team's drop back. So that number could have been higher. So if Harris misses time Brandon, how high is too high for Ramondry Stevenson? So he's a featured back in a very questionable offense at least to us. I think we're always lower on the Patriots offense. So I need to keep that in mind. Also along with almost any Patriots game we get a pretty low total. Who do they get next week? They play the Browns who just rated for a live backer because they got torched by one of the worst ground games in football this past week. Okay, so three point underdogs on the road, 42 and a half point. Is the Bill Belichick like revenge game narrative still a thing with the Browns? Okay. Why do you ask? Like I'm wearing burnt orange as like to describe the burn that Bill Belichick will inflict upon the Browns organization until he dies. Okay, so this is a tough one because it's like there was production on his usage despite not scoring. So the salary is gonna jump up. I still have some question marks about the offense. I would put him at like 74. I heard it asked somebody who you were too low. It's 8,000. I knew you were gonna do that. Well, like why wouldn't it be? Because he didn't get work from Damian Harris. He'll now be meeting with Pierre Strong who is an active for targets. And he gets ground game work. He gets targets like that's an amazing role. I think it's the offense. I don't care. They're facing Cleveland. I think the offense can be good against Cleveland. Like the Jets went for like 31 not to poop the Jets, you know, they're three and two. You know, let's go Zach Wilson, two and O baby. But like, I don't care, man. I think 8,000 is like an appropriate salary for the role we'll get for how, I mean, not just like a, actually walk the film, bro, but like a good football player too, in a very good matchup. So he's 75. So I was more correct. We're not trying to guess what the salary, get out of here. You know that you're trying to, I don't know. I was gonna have a 10,09 a.m. Eastern on a Monday and I see right through it. So that's a great salary. I'm not gonna say he is up. I think for you, he's probably a write down at this point already. He's close to it for me. And I put him in notes future me already. Okay. So I think we're both very good with Ramondray, even though Jim's very clearly a bit higher, although I think not drastically higher. Yeah. I think that like he checks every box. What you want it running back is you want guys who will get targets. You want guys who will get early done work. You want guys who will get work in the red zone and you want guys, I guess he will get into the red zone though. Yeah. I mean, Bailey's app is the best quarterback in football. So like, is that actually a question? Like he, he was awesome. So I just think, I just think I gotta take pause. If I don't even know who the quarterback like is necessarily going to be next week. Doesn't matter. Is it going to be Bailey's appy or would they downgrade to Mac Jones? I mean, it's a slight downgrade to Mac Jones. Like it's not that bad. So this is why you should watch on YouTube so you can see that I'm smiling and I'm joking. For, yeah. For there to be, for there to be an eight in front of Stevenson salary. I think I need a little bit more confidence in that often. That's all. That's all. Okay. I don't. I think 8,000 would be the right number. He's 75. Ramondray Stevenson will be a core play for me in week six assuming that there is no Damian Harris for shot penny bummer. We love her shot penny in this podcast. He's the best. And he's like, he's like an, I had to like downgrade the Seahawks offense with him being out and like, you don't do that for like, I guess I do it forever on your back cause like they do matter for rushing efficiency. Penny was a 95th percentile prospect in my database. Yeah. He was like 0.32 rushing an EP for Kerry this year. He's awesome. He was Patrick Mahomes as a washer. He's like one of the, he's like one of the top guys in rushing yards over expectation too. Yeah. Like the next gen stat. Like he, he's awesome. Like it's steaks. We love her shot penny. He's suffered a broken lug court at Ian Rapaport means he's probably gonna miss a very long time. Travis Homer still has two more weeks on IR. So Kenneth Walker rounded playing 54% of the snaps. He had a huge touchdown. A carries no targets. He did run 12 routes though compared to DJ Dallas who ran eight. So it's a big burner for penny. We love her shot penny. We're sad about this. But what's your view of Kenneth Walker going forward in the Seattle offense? Yeah. Just really love it for a Walker like this offense. This offense is fun and that matters. So like, again, you know, I'm not, I'm not trying to compare Walker directly to like Ramon Dre. But that's fair. Go ahead. You know, I, in the matchup for next week within the offense, like the total is eight points higher at 50 and a half. Narrow underdog, two and a half points at home. They shouldn't be underdogs. Probably not. I already bet against the Cardinals. Cause I was like, oh my gosh, my number's only to bet against this team that I've been so frustrated with all year. Yes. Sign me up. No second thoughts. So like, sort of knee jerk, Monday morning reaction. I'm like, I feel like I'd have to be higher on Walker than Stevenson specifically for week six. I think it's close. But I understand that the receiving work is more likely to be there for Stevenson because he's had it, but Walker also I know didn't get receiving work in college, but I don't think that that necessarily means that he can't. He also had those 12 routes just didn't get targeted. I would say next week, probably if I, if I said 74 for Mondria, I'll just say 75 for, for Walker. Okay. I would go with 73 for Walker because of the past catching. That's fair. Like for me, I've always found that like, so like perfect lineup running backs are more likely to have six catches than zero or one or two. And that's a big number. And I don't see a path to six catches for Kenneth Walker. And I do see that path for under Stevenson. That's why I downgrade Walker. So I'd say 73. Do you want to do like a bet, a Walker versus Stevenson bet? No. No, cause it's both. The answer is really both. No, but we, yeah, but like, you know, I'm higher on Stevenson, you're higher on Walker straight up. Like we can, we can brute for both and use both, but like, do you want to bet? Cause we never write these down or remember them anyway. Correct. Also Kenneth Walker, 6,500 for next week. So. Well, that's the biggest right down then. Like even though I'm higher on Ramandre, $6,500 is too low. Yeah. Walker also like, no one cares about season long teams. Walker was the kind of guy I was trying to target in case of like a penny injury or a backfield takeover because the talent is there. The only knock on him really was the, the receiving in college. So. And like that he, in like from a 2022 perspective, it's like, okay, it'll split work with Rashad Penny and he will never get passing game work. But now like he probably will get passing, some passing game work and he's not going to split really down work with DJ Dallas. Like DJ Dallas only functions to serve, to throw picks in the red zone. Like he's not, he's not there to steal early down work. So. Is there a player who has been more under salary than Kenneth Walker yet this year? Cause I would say no. I don't think there's been like a quick, like a click and lock. We might have just gotten it. That might be our first like lock them in kind of play for the entire year. Yeah. I mean, I think you could maybe make the case. Like if it wasn't in this game, that it's sort of a fair salary with the question marks around the receiving, but in this game, then again, Arizona just ruins any game that looks appealing. And that's why I call them on Slack. I call them the worst offense or the worst team in DFS because they draw us in. I was going to say it because Brandon, although good teams win, great teams cover and the Cardinals covered. So like they're a great team this week. They ruined what could have been a much more fun game. Correct. I forgot that I was talking about being lucky. I got very lucky that Jalen Hurts as she touchdowns came on the ground. That was another lucky thing for me because I had a lot of him and it would have been much worse had those been passing. So that was lucky as well. I forgot to mention that. So I would say Kenneth Walker is the first time this year we've gotten like a free square based on an injury. And like, I know people get annoyed with that because it's like, you know, chalk, chalk, chalk, but it's like your opponents are gonna bleep it up and let them bleep it up. Let them do that. You do the right thing. You use Kenneth Walker. You use Ramon Drey Stevenson. Let them make the mistake. You do the right process. Let them mess it up. Yeah. And, you know, I did a, I dread thinking about the pivot study that I did because it just was a lot more labor intensive than I had hoped. But like, we're good as a collective at identifying good under salaried running backs and like the right situations. And running back production comes not from one touch. I mean, it does for like Austin Eckler, I guess. But like- Don't talk. Yeah. But like it comes from volume and volume is much more predictable for running backs than it is for any other position aside from quarterback which I guess there's only four, but give me a break here. So yeah, I think Walker's a lock in this week. I agree. So both of those are, well, our guys will be in our love section, I think. Walker Locker. Walker Locker, I like it. Hopefully that's not tied to Drew Lock because we need Gino in there. Let Gino cook. Injuries from week number five outside of those two, both James Conner and Darrell Williams left week five with injuries for the Cardinals. Cliff Kingsbury said that he thought Conner would be okay, but he had a rib injury earlier on this year, I think, or maybe last year as well. So that's a bit concerning there. Gino Benjamin, 54% snap rate, eight carries and four targets. No Cardinals running back has had more than 77 yards in scrimmage so far this year. But if both Conner and Williams were to miss time, how would you view Gino Benjamin as backfield? I mean, same game that we just talked about that we liked to boost up Walker. Benjamin, 97% second half snap rate. You love to see that. Of course it would come back as they sort of fill in, like backfill running back a bit. But he's a guy who can catch passes. And I feel like he's someone who a lot of people are high on in terms of profile. Yeah. I don't think it's even close to like a Kenneth Walker situation. No. If you're asking me like no Conner, no Williams next week, that's tough. Like 64. I was thinking like 62, yeah. Yeah, cause like they have Keontae Ingram and like I don't think he's been, he might have been active for one game this year, but like he hasn't been a threat in that backfield. But I feel like he'd probably be a bigger threat to Benjamin than DJ Dallas would be to Kenneth Walker or Pierre Strong would be to Ramon Der Stevenson. So I think that there are some issues there. He's 63. So that means we don't worry about it as much. I think that's a difference between us. What about a Gino Eno stack though? Hmm. Now you're talking. Okay. So Gino Eno. If a Monrod been healthy this week, who'd have gotten Marquis, AJ and a Monrod Brown? A Monrod St. Brown kind of cheating, but like, you know, whatever. I was looking to see if there was a player who had UPS in their name to get the what can Brown do for you? There was no one in the player pool who had UPS though. So I tried. Couldn't do it though. Alas. But I think Benjamin's role would be kind of flawed even if we get them with no Connor and no Williams. He also is in this Arizona offense. That's part of why. Not because of the offense, but because of the way they use their running backs. Sure. The offense is great. Again, they cover. T Higgins entered Sunday with an ankle injury. He played a decent chunk of the first quarter, but then had to exit. Would have loved to have known that. Like bring back the probable tag. So I know when guys are actually hurt. Like questionable, like if they practice all three days, I'm like, okay, cool. I can use T Higgins. I got so excited by the stupid Thursday through Monday slate. I had Nakim Hines, obviously bad stuff there. Chris Alave was in that lineup, concussion. T Higgins ankle injury, which means I've got my homes, Marquez Valdez, Scantley and Josh Jacobs. I might swap to like Chad Hennie. I was to protect Patrick Mahomes in that situation. Also like, I don't know, like Jerick McKinnon did to save Josh Jacobs. I just, I don't want to, I don't want to think to happen to those guys. It's a curse lineup. The most curse lineup I've ever had in my entire life. So I got to get off that. Never in a million years would I think you would sacrifice Jerick McKinnon for Josh Jacobs. Jerick's dust. I love Jerick, but you can just watch some games in the couch bud. Zack Taylor said after the game that Higgins could have potentially played situationally in the second half, but he didn't. Higgins could be good for week six, but Jamar Chase led with 12 targets. Hayden Hearst was second with seven. Those two also had three red zone targets apiece. So what would he need to see to buy back into Higgins going forward? What is that? Like what is he could have played but didn't even meet? So I'm guessing if they had a bunch of injuries or injuries at receiver, he might have come in. Yeah, but like, I don't know. Like if everyone sounds weird to me to be like, you know what, he was hurt. Like I think he could have come in. Well, they lost, so yeah. But I guess protect. They covered again. Who cares? Yeah, with him, I just need to see like a full practice, like full practices. Yeah. Put him on the game, the game regiments. If he gets in a full practice, light him up. If not, proceed to caution, you know? They play the Saints next week. Oh, gross. It's not a fun game. I feel like I can probably just avoid there. That's not as fun. Yeah, let me see. T, he's still 72. Yeah, I need a full practice before I go back. Yeah, speaking of that game, Chris Olave suffered a concussion on a touchdown reception and missed the second half. Shout out to him though for actually catching that pass. Helped some DFS lineups because he's a champion. They were already without Michael Thomas for this game. The Saints, just 26 drop backs despite 39 points. Alvin Camara tied Olave with a team high with six targets. Trayquan Smith had four. He ran a team high 20 routes. New Orleans very run heavy. And that could continue until James returns, but also Dalton might be playing better. But once you view this offense, especially the Lave, Thomas, James all banged up. Yeah, it's tough. That lowers efficiency. It's just something that we'll say throughout the season, but kind of stick on it a little bit more here and there. Like if you take Chris Olave off the field, yes, other guys are gonna get targets. If you take Michael Thomas off the field, other guys are gonna get targets. But that makes the offense worse. And then the targets are less productive. You get fewer red zone trips, fewer chances at touchdowns. Saints also, this was a head in the philosophical discussion, but pass rate over expectation of minus 19 percentage points this week. Full season rates minus three. I throw when you have Taysum, you know? Right. So the past two games, they've been double digits under expectation. Taysum hills a thing again. I know that like his usage is not gonna be super predictable or consistent, but that is extra carries that they probably will script into their offense. And also then, you know, I like Alvin Camero just fine, but if Taysum Hill is going to be a nuisance and be a menace, that really hurts Camero. Do you wanna talk about Camero here or in the philosophical section? Cause I could do either. I was just thinking like this offense as a whole, because- Okay, so I'm gonna talk about Camero then quick. Okay. Two games he has played a full game. Week one I omitted because rib injury. In week three, 29 adjust opportunities. He had three out of seven red zone chances. 43%, pretty good. Week five, 35 adjust opportunities. Four out of eight red zone chances. Didn't score, but actually pretty good usage. So despite the fact Taysum is there and annoying, I think Camero is like an 8,000 salary kind of guy again. Based on workload, yes. I don't think we'll be there because the results like touchdowns have a huge correlation with what your salary actually is. If you're underperforming in the touchdown department then your salary is gonna be lower than it should be. He's 81. So we're not seeking one by hand. I was wrong. I was wrong. What's your view of mid 81? Probably not in that game unless I'm stacking it. And I think the only way I would stack it is like chase Camero, but I don't know if I wanna go at Jamar Chase without T Higgins, like super healthy because then they can just bracket him. I think it depends on how deep running back is because he's pretty fairly salaried there and has a very good role. So why would be receptive to him? We already got two near locks. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like if there are a lot of guys who are in that range, then I can toss them out but it depends on what other backs we have. We don't have any backs on the Steelers, that's reassuring. Pat Fryermuth was ruled out in the second half to a concussion. Just two targets there. We'll talk about this offense under Kenny Pickett in the philosophical section. Naheem Hines played just three snaps before leaving Thursday night's game with a concussion. Head coach Frank Reich said that he is optimistic that Jonathan Taylor will be back for week six facing off against Jacksonville. You know, that's that. We don't really know if Hines will be able to go. Go ahead. It sounded like, again, Taylor could have played if there were a week five game wasn't on Thursday. Yeah. So give him 10 more days from that. I think it'd be good to go. Yeah. And Hines, he was kind of wobbly. So there's a chance he misses. If Hines can't play, would you bump up JT for potential increased passing game work? I think I might. Yeah. Because we have seen him get targets, like elevated targets in certain games. I wouldn't necessarily like to bump down the offense without Naheem Hines. But OK, so I was pulling up Jonathan Taylor's game log to look at his target numbers. Don't do that. Well, I saw his salary. So give me a salary next week. Assume, it doesn't really matter for Hines that much, but let's assume he's out. OK, so. They played the Jaguars. The total is 40 and a half. So Jonathan Taylor has had 45 adjust opportunities, 11, 31 and 26. So that's still like a. Jaguars again. That's the second time. 87 or so hundred dollar salary. Use 8,000. OK, so that's probably our third write down, isn't it? I mean, Taylor Kamara, I think Eileen Taylor there, even with. Not that either offense is particularly great, but yeah. So it's a running back in the flex kind of week is what I'm getting. Yeah. That's fine by me. Russell Wilson has been playing with a partially torn lat on his throwing side, according to Adam Schafter. The Broncos lost Garrett Boles to see in the broken leg. Their left tackle. Like, what's their outlook right now? Because Russ is banged up. Their offensive line was already getting called for holding and like that might actually get better with no bowls, but they'll get worse overall. They can't snap the football. Wow, Russ is missing KJ Hamler and KJ KJ Hamler is. I mean, is he like our like avatar on the team when he's like slamming his helmet? Like, I feel you, man, like this is you are me. What are we doing with this team? Mercifully, they play Monday night. So we don't have to break it down like in big detail, but also kind of strange that they get to play the Chargers on like extended rest of like 11 days of rest there. Yeah. And I think I think Russ is like trying to get shots to like play through the injury, but. It's not good. There hasn't. There hasn't been just hasn't been much. Like Melvin Gordon was just, I don't want. I don't know if we want to talk like that. Let's do it now. Go ahead. Like he was just like a majority back still. It wasn't like he was a full featured back. There was a report Monday that he'd be a featured back and I questioned that and I feel validated because well, like he got work like, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I saw that and I was like, I'm just going to play him again. No one cares about season long, but that that was my view of him entering the week was like, OK, if he's just going to be the featured back, just play him and see what happens. But 55 percent snap rates, Mike Boone, 42 percent. The rushing if you looked at like the rushes, you'd think that Gordon was much more involved in that. 15 carries to seven for Boone, three targets a piece, but Boone, one more route, 19 to 18. Like Melvin, I guess at least did have a 66 percent first half snap rate, but I can't. I can't really like overpay to roster Corlyn Sutton. Jerry Judy seems to be like, I'm trying. I was trying to think of a comp for those two guys and the one to pop into mind actually was like last year when Russ was heard like DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. But like now it's Russ like Sutton's been fine. Yeah, like and like if memory serves, DK Metcalf was like fine. He was like boosted by touchdowns and stuff. But yeah, how low of a salary do you need to play Cortland Sutton in like a I still think he's fine. He's still like 67 or so for me. Yeah, like I don't I don't object to him. I just object to everything else. Teddy Bridgewater ruled that for week five due to concussion injury, also an elbow injury. Tyree kill was in a walkie-boot after the game, but he said that he was OK. Scholar Thompson played all but one snap preseason star Scholar Thompson. This game did eventually get out of hand, but it was pretty close for most of it. Through the first three quarters, Thompson targeted Tyree kill seven times and Chase Edmonds where he most and Trent Schurf filled twice each, eight out with six point nine yards did have four attempts, 20 yards, 20 plus yards downfield. They play the Vikings next week. Like they're only three point dogs in that game. I think that's kind of a hedge in case like either Teddy or Tua is able to play. But like what's your view of this offense right now with all the weirdness going on? I think Tyree kills role is good enough that you could justify him and really any circumstance at this point, not to say like he's a like when I'm looking to roster my three loves, I'm not saying Tyree kill was like someone that I'm plugging in there no matter what. But he's really been featured in this offense. Another situation where I was trying to think of a good comp where like there's two really good receivers, but the workloads don't really like treated equally. Like one one dude's way ahead. And I know the salary is starting to reflect that. But to start the year, it wasn't that close or sorry, it was closer. So I think Tyree is fine. Remostered. It's also interesting with his with his workload. But you know, he was not really going to dip below 8000. I don't think if he does, I would get there. But yeah, I think like he said, like the workload is fine. I just don't want to pay that much for a guy who's on a third string quarterback potentially. So if Teddy or Tua are clear, I'll be OK with Hill. But if not, I don't really want to go there. If Hill were to miss time, Waddle would be a pretty he'd be a priority ish kind of situation there at that point. Yeah, but like, if you take Tyree off the field, what else do they have to like what are teams? Well, it's the same offense as last year, then. And that offense got you on Waddle on targets. So, you know, I think that's why I'd be there. Me a salary for Waddle, then. If there's no Tyreek or with. If there's no Tyreek. Who's playing quarterback? We take your pick. If it's Thompson, like three thousand. I don't like that. Just don't want like three thousand. I don't want to use it, but he's a team. If it's Thompson. Oh, like, you see, you're not going to play Jalen Waddle without Tyreek. I thought you'd like if it's Thompson. I don't want to. I just want this offense because I'll probably try to be run heavy and they can't run. So potentially a minor one. But Christian Watson left week five with a hamstring injury and did not return. Randall Cobb ran around on twenty nine out of forty one drop backs led the team with thirteen targets. Ellen Lazzard with second eight targets. Dobbs had five targets. Watson was not a huge part of the offense, but Cobb, I think, ran around on half the drop backs before this. So he did get a role increase. Is it enough for you to be on Cobb or Lazzard in this offense or potentially Dobbs? So Cobb's route rates the three weeks entering thirty nine fifty forty seven and then seventy one percent this week said it was a boost. I think it'd be interesting. I have a hard time with this offense no matter what, including the running backs, just because they'll spread it out. You never know quite who to prioritize. I think Cobb's interesting to a point. This team also plays really slowly and deliberately. Cobb also seemed to be open a few times downfield. I don't know how often that's going to happen. That might be a little bit unfair to Randall Cobb for what is deep for Randall Cobb. I don't know. He had five downfield targets out of thirteen, which for me is ten plus yards. Despite that, a below average eight odd for the position. But that probably implies that he's getting like like high percentage targets near the goal line, which is for the near the near the minus scrimmage minus scrimmage. Yeah, so that's probably not the worst thing in the world. Yeah, he had two targets, at least five or sorry, three targets, at least sixteen yards downfields. They actually was getting some deep looks. Like that's it's not. I'm not saying it's it's not in the law of a role. I want to make that very clear. But it's like I like having to blend a bull. Three red zone targets, two end zone targets. I guess he would be the guy to have the most interest in, I suppose I'd agree is with that as well. I think that I mean, there was a play where he made like a nice catch on a screen. And Rogers is like, yeah, man, like kind of giving him like a head nod kind of thing. I was like, OK, if Rogers is feeling it, then I can feel it. I think I think that matters, especially with Aaron Rogers, too. Correct. Cobb salary next week against the Jets, fifty seven hundred dollars. Low enough to be on my radar, as I would say. Yeah. OK, let's talk about that team as we go to role changes now because there might have been a role change in the backfield. Aaron Jones kind of featured for the Packers in week five. He had a seventy four percent snap rate. AJ Dillon played a season low thirty one percent. This was the first game of the season in which Jones surpassed a sixty five percent snap rate. And the first time Dylan was below fifty percent. So we're typically like I viewed Aaron Jones in this split as being a guy who has a very high ninety fifth percentile outcome. But his other outcomes are all pretty underwhelming. But if he's going to get a seventy four percent snap rate, that equation does change. So we're adding Aaron Jones, given that we don't know if this role is sticky yet. That's the issue is like we're we always look at role changes and we look at not just like one week shifts. We're trying to like track the trends and stuff. But you see a one week change like this. They they traveled like maybe AJ Dillon wasn't feeling great after. There was a narrative in favor of AJ Dillon because he went to I think like West London High School in Connecticut. So like there was London in his high school. I thought this was like I thought this was like he travels a lot and like that. No, it was much better than that. Something completely irrelevant. Like we had the high school name narrative and he still didn't deal a lot. So I mean, realistically, if we could just cut and paste this role for next week, the arrows way up on Aaron Jones. Yeah. I don't know if this is like indicative of much. He did have all three red zone carries. Dylan, despite a very small sample, like was efficient on his carries compared to Aaron Jones. Rose is upset about something. I don't know what she's like. She must have played her. AJ Dillon, apparently, you know, she's very upset. So I think they agree. You're right. I validate your feeling. Yes. Good job. I think what's most likely is that Jones comes down a little bit, but is up from where he was before. So like it's still an arrow up, but not like full. Like a half, like a half step. Yeah. Yeah. So Jones this year has had one hundred and seventy yards in service and one fifteen. And those are good numbers. He's had eighty on Sunday in that role, but no more than twenty four adjust opportunities, no more than five targets. So it's still kind of a weird role. And like that's that's a bit annoying. That keeps me at my enthusiasm in check, but name that salary against the Jets next week. So I said most are Ramon Dre, like seventy four Walker, seventy five. I'd probably throw him in like the seventy four range. I said seventy three in my head just because like I still don't know if the role is there yet. Seventy three years on the button. That's in play because that ceiling gives him like a path to like an amazing game. So if he if people catch on to the snap rate and like steam him up, that situation might be very nervous. But if he's going to be like, you know, six percent rostered, then, you know, it got that's a pretty good ceiling for six percent rostered in a potential role change. Yeah, I'd have to think that that that Jets Packers game is going to rate out very, very poorly in my in my pace numbers. The Jets have been extremely slow to pass two games with Zach Wilson. So that's a bit of a concern. Paces a little bit overrated, but this one they can just like keep the clock rolling. We get two sicko backs, though, with Aaron Jones and Breeze Hall. It's kind of fun. Yeah, speed it up, guys. Let's let's keep it cooking. Leonard Fornette had a role different this week than any other he's had so far this season. The snaps are still down to 61 percent, but he handled 14 carries and 11 targets. That means he had a carry or a target on 54 percent of his snaps. How would you view Fornette if his snap rate were to come down, but he had the potential for a dominant role regardless? Yeah, I mean, like we saw Fornette just be completely featured for three weeks, then kind of an afterthought last week. And now, like I don't know why, but the only role that comes to mind McCaffrey. Oh, sorry. Not the snap rate perspective, but his usage was McCaffrey. All the school McCaffrey asked on Sunday. I was so mad about it. This is going to sound silly, but like I remember there was a season where Adrian Peterson, his snap rate was like 40 percent. But when he was on the field, he got a carry. Yeah, he obviously didn't get many targets, but like his usage rate was incredible, and that actually made the snap rate almost irrelevant because it wasn't quite, you couldn't really compare it to other positions or other players of the position. I'll not say it for now to there, but I think it also is fair to say, like you got to think about how you view this offense this year. Is it as good as it has the potential to be not quite? No. So that with a decreased snap rate. And yes, we're talking about how he was involved when he was on the field. But a 54 percent usage rate on the snaps he plays is really high. Yeah. Is that sustainable? Is that like his? I don't think so. I don't think that's part of why I'm so skeptical, is I don't know if he can keep that up. Right. So like what I'm saying is the usage on a personal basis was great, but the way to guarantee more involvement, let your dev and single terriers used to be on the field. So if you're on the field less, you're probably going to see the ball less than this. So I think that this might be a time where like all the models, all the projections loved for that this week. We were lower on that because the role they wanted to decrease his role. It kind of did in a way. So they're like, yeah, we're going to use you anyway. Like, well, you're out there. Might as well give you the ball. Part of it could have been because like Atlanta has some like OK cornerbacks, like maybe that funneled some work towards the running backs. But they get Pittsburgh next week, which is kind of similar in a lot of ways, unless you're Devin Singletair, in which case. Or sorry, Devin Singletigets, like named that style for four night against Pittsburgh as eight point favorites. This is I would imagine lower than he actually will be. I think he was 78 this week. Yeah, I think I'd still have to bring him down, even though the usage was phenomenal this week. Yeah, I'd probably say 75. I'd say 76. He's 85. Yeah, I knew he was going to go like way up because of the results. But honestly, he's like Echler. We're like the snap rate stinks. He's actually with a better red zone role. Yeah, kind of. Backward does get to play with the best quarterback of all time, though. The golf get traded to the Chargers. I probably can't make those jokes anymore. Anyway, David Montgomery returned his usual role back with the Bears. Seventy two percent snap rates. Cleo Herbert played 28 percent. Montgomery, 12 out of 16 running back carries. He had all four running back targets. So he kind of just came back to his usual role, despite I don't think he practiced until Thursday. He missed Wednesday, which means he wasn't fully healthy yet, but still got his same role. So how are you viewing Montgomery going forward? Same as I did before, I guess, which. With now in the context, though, of like what running back looks like, at least for week six is lower than it was whenever we kind of were scrounging for any back with the semblance of like a steady workload. So I was fine with him at like 72, 73. I think I'd have to say like 69 or 7000 ish. Due to opportunity cost or due to supply. Yeah, that's fine. I think that makes sense. They're on Thursday against Washington, though. So he'll probably be the MVP of the game. Wee, Breece Hall cemented the role change last week. It's not a role change, but it's a role confirmation. Sixty eight percent snap rate, a hundred and ninety seven yards from scrimmage. He had just one out of five red zone. One out of five rushing touchdowns, which is sick, but he still had 36 percent of the red zone chances. So two touchdowns from Michael Carter, one for Zach Wilson, one for Raxon Various, but like, you know, still a good role for Breece Hall. How high should it be on Hall now that we can feel more firm at his role? Yeah, his role was so sick. He got that that downfield target. But his his A dot, let me check for this season, because his A dot has been like an outlier for running backs four point nine, which sounds really low, but like A dot higher than Curtis Samuels. Probably. I think it's hard. Ronald Moore's. Well, he had a decent three point five, I think this. But that's pretty awesome. Yeah, that is like kind of David Johnson's get like David Johnson's peak where he'd get like a lay down to get those two. They just like to lay him on a linebacker and take a shot once or twice a game. That has a lot of value. If you can catch like a 30 or 40 yard pass, obviously he did a lot with it. And he we could be looking at him with like a two or three touchdown game. Yeah, in addition to all of this, because boy, I sure know for a fact that he was stopped on the one numerous times this week. So. The only question is the offense. Is it a question specifically for next week? I think that they Green Bay's defense looked like but I'm saying I'm saying like, I guess I shouldn't over a pace anymore. No, it's OK to factor it in, though. Like it's going to be a gross game. It has the potential to be low scoring because the clock keeps moving. Yeah. Hall roll like just based on his role. Like 85 probably and his talent. I thought eight thousands just because like he's not going to have the same snap rate as Armand Ray, but I think his usage might be a bit. A little bit better. So that's why I went the same salaries for Andre. So I'd say eight thousands. He is 71. Can we flex to running backs? So we're going to have a I'm going to write down and down. So his role, he was 66 this week. His role stayed great. Yeah. And we saw them really use utilize him a lot. So we I mean, we got Jonathan Taylor, who I think is going to be under salaried if he's good to go. Ramon, Dray, Kenneth Walker. Breeze, it's going to be tough to narrow this one down. No, you just use those four guys and don't use anybody else. I think that's probably where I that's kind of where I'm tracking. This is like the perfect example of why I love this Monday show, because as of Monday, I'm like, OK, all these guys make so much sense. The salaries are fair. I don't like I can just play these guys. But then come like Sunday morning, I'm like, OK, I got him. Who is like whom I overlook and whom I miss in. And then single digits. Yeah, exactly. Stuff like that. Just talking ourselves into scrubs, Gibranese. Can you guess Zach Wilson's passing that expected points per drop back this year? I don't know if I've ever, aside from that breeze throw, I don't know if I've really seen him. Well, actually, no, I did see him overthrow some guys. You overthrew some guys. He had that really bad pick against Steelers last week. He had to pick the one off Tyler Conklin's hand last week. So like he's had some some rough, rough play. So guess is passing any people drop back. I'm assuming it's good or else you wouldn't be asking me. No, I'm not saying that. Point one, point one, one. A little bit above league average, because I think league average is point one on early downs this year. I've been checked full season. It's been like point of six. It's been it's been a rough year. It's point one on early downs. That's I have them working on stuff, working stuff out by me. Let me be. He hasn't been as bad as perception. So I don't know. I think the offense is actually kind of OK. And I think that game is not super appealing, but it's also not one that I'm going to run away from. I think like I think you could probably double stack. Like Breece and Aaron Jones and sick. If the game is worthwhile, those guys are going to have something to do with it. Yeah, I'm excited about these running backs this week. Also, like we Aaron Jones is 73 is not like a. Cross off, but like now we've seen you got four dudes who are right downs, like. Yeah, also like spoiler alert. There's a lot of looking at the teams who are on this slate. There are a lot of like stud running backs, so. Yeah, like Brace Hall and Kenneth Walker and Ramon. Well, we have a place to Nick Chubb. I can be off of Nick Chubb now. Like that's fine. I got my two touchdowns on Sunday. I'm fine. I'm I'm good. I sure didn't. I'm done. I like there are more options now. I can go elsewhere. Good. I had my little dalliance. Is that a word? I don't know. Whatever. Gabe Davis finally got involved for the bills ish in the first half. He had five out of 24 targets, which is 21 percent. Stefan Diggs led with eight targets in that time. But Davis just beasted out. You don't need multiple targets when you bust one for 98 and then bust another long one where you just make make if it's Patrick look like a scrub. It was with no Isaiah Mackenzie, no Dawson Knox, but Cleo Shakir and Quentin Morris got some targets, too. So it wasn't like it was just because they were out. How much does this game alter your view of Davis going forward, given they face Kansas City next week? And we're just going to see highlights of Gabe Davis going for four touchdowns all week. Yeah, this is going to be one of the scariest situations that will face all year, where we either just play Gabe Davis and say he's going to do it again. Or we assume that the salary goes way up because of the production this week and say. He's probably not going to do it again. Like the arrows, I like I like gave Davis. I'm struggling because this is one of the biggest like regrets, instant regrets, which it's very easy to regret something whenever someone breaks off a 90 or a touchdown within like three minutes of lock. But, you know, come Sunday again, I was talking myself into like courtesy of Ontario McClearn because of the opportunity there had them much more than I had like Gabe Davis. That's regrettable. Very easy to overlook that stuff whenever you're scrounging on Sunday morning. So it's important to start looking earlier. And even though we do the show, I still lose that. So I think there's a lot of value in this. So Gabe, he's going to be like 72, probably. Yeah, I would guess so. He is there too many guys named Davis 69. I would say that that's not a bad salary given that game. But that also means his roster is going to be very high, which means it's a week where I want to actively spend up to get stuff on digs to be a bit different. Because digs are also been amazing. So like I feel like if you're stacking that game, you should prioritize digs just from a roster rate perspective. And like you can use Walker Stevenson Hall, Jonathan Taylor, apparently, to like make that easier. And I don't know if you can get like those three running backs with digs and Kelsey and Josh Allen, but like maybe if you go like Mahomes, that's tough. Like you might know if you get digs and Kelsey, but like people are going to go to Davis a lot. This week, I think it's fair. Yeah, I do too. But there's still a lot of volatility, especially for a guy who did what he did and had six targets. Yeah. Oh, well, five out of those were in the first half. So like it was partly script related. But like there is a lot of volatility in that role still. Yes. So I think it's like his role is great. He's great. But in this game specifically, dude is going to be on a lot of roster. So just keep that in mind. Brian Robinson made his NFL debut, which is awesome to see. He led the commanders and rushes with nine. Robinson played to 16 snaps, though, and ran two routes. Jada McKinnon and Antonio Gibson combined for 11 targets between them. We can cross off this backfield, right? Yes. OK, cool. J.K. Dobbins' role got worse instead of getting better, which is weird. Even the Justice Hill out, Dobbins snap rate fell to 39 percent. I'm not sure if there was an injury here, because Dobbins played just one snap in the fourth quarter after playing a lot early on. Could have been because Kenny and Drake looked OK. I don't know what it was, but we might learn more about that later. I think for now I just back off of J.K. Dobbins and make leave it at that, especially with all the running backs we have. So, yeah, yeah, for now. With no workshop, Bateman, Devon Duverney had an actual role, not a fluke role, like an actual role. He had seven targets second behind Mark Andrews, who had 10. Nobody else had more than two. Duverney had three deep targets. So Duverney showed he can earn targets when there's no reshot. Bateman, which is important. Not everyone can do that. So how would you view Duverney if Bateman misses more time? I think he's relevant in the right game environments. They play the Giants next week. Surprised. Did you did you mention that he had three carries? I didn't know. Well, they got him involved in like different ways. I'm pretty sure he had some like backfield snaps to like pure backfield snaps. That is relevant because, as Jim says, that indicates that they want to get the ball to a certain player. It's an easy way to do it. And actually he like looked good whenever he had the ball. So what's the thing is he always looks kind of good. It's just like the usage was not there. But that's the Ravens. The thing we didn't like we didn't linger on Dobbins, but like they are so hesitant to give backs like consistent, heavy work. They haven't really ever for like long term. They Hollywood Brown had like a hard time getting work like consistently high market shares. Mark Andrews is the only guy that they do that with. Duverney is not going to have the salary that like Mark, he's Brown did. I think he should be around like 61, probably. And that's fine. 62. So it's it's fair. It's not like I prefer I would say of the two lower salary receivers we talked about. I prefer Randall Cobb at 57 over Duverney at 62. It's probably. Yeah. But I mean, he's in play, which he was not with when Bateman was healthy. So I think that's important to note. Situations to monitor week number five. What else caught your attention this past week? Joe Mixon is usually a big heat check guy, but his first half snap rate fell below 73 percent for the first time on Sunday night at 60 percent. Pretty sure they had a two minute drill to end the first half. But the fact that he was not out there when he had been in the two minute drills earlier on this year is concerning. I don't like we're we're always trying to be objective and like, OK, OK, well, here's why he wasn't in the field. But at a certain point, like if you're not on the field is running back. It's a negative. And there's really no way that I want to spin it. That it's a positive. Because if that's the case, I don't really want to roster you very much. So the two minute drill thing was part of why we were on Mixon at the beginning of the year. It's like, oh, he's actually getting some passing game work. Now that's fun. And now that's not there. So Austin Eckler. Cash in again, despite a 57 percent first half snap rate, 59 percent overall snap rate, 98 rushing yards over expectation, according to the stats, just 25 percent of the red zone opportunities. Like I just I can't get there. Like I think it's bad process almost always unless we have the salary to burn. They're not on the main slate this week. So thankfully, I don't have to to worry about it. Thank goodness. Just banish them. I love Justin Herbert. I love Big Mike Williams. So banish them from the main slate. Please. I beg you for he most are is at least a little bit interesting. Maintain that separation that he's had in the Dolphins backfield. Seventy three percent of the snaps last week, 68 percent this week, but actually 80 percent in the first half. And like 80 percent snap rates are super rare. 18 carries three targets. And he's sixty five hundred. I wouldn't say like he rivals the other backs we have. But I think you could do worse if it was if it was a bad running back slate. I think they were a bad running back slate. Sure. In the second game with Zach Wilson, no jet had more than four targets. I just wanted to throw that out there. The Rams backfield is just absurd. Camakers 13 carries Daryl Henderson zero. Like you couldn't use them if they were combined. Like if you could use Rams backfield as like one player, I wouldn't use them and they're splitting that up. Yeah. And 25 routes for Henderson, five for acres. So like in one of the routes he did run, he looked like a toddler. Like it was a Cooper Cup throwback pass. And acres was like, I might catch this. I was like, what are you doing, bud? This is why you're not. This is why I don't run around. It's it's like the perfect example, though, too, of the type of thing that when you're doing this week after week after week, you can be like, OK, there's nothing here, but it can be easy to overlook and miss stuff. I'm going to overlook them. And I'm going to. This one's OK. Don't go. Yeah. Damian Pierce, 79 percent snap, snap rate. Twenty six carries five targets. Again, out out routed Rex Burkett, 12 to eight. If you if you put this role in like a better offense, he'd be like 8000 or like 80. I mean, he was already like 76 or something this week. But the role is really great. And I want to just give him some some credit. I think Devin Singletary is is is is done. Who is that? Fifty three percent for a snap rate. Is that Devin Singletary? Thank you. He had been at 80 percent or more of the first half snaps. Two games entering this week. Fifty three percent this week. You don't love to see that. Drake London, I think, was a darling for us. I think things are a little bit down. The team wants to run the ball time, not throw it. And just a 63 percent route rate. I don't think he was injured, but like that's concerning. And then I don't know if this one was worth like the injury section, but Baker Mayfield has an ankle injury. He may not play next week. It gets to PJ Walker, but maybe maybe D.J. Morrill finally have a pulse. I don't think so. I doubt that they tried to make P.J. Walker their fourth string quarterback because they had Sam Darnell to use second string. They traded a 2023 third round pick to trade it for Matt Corral. They traded for Baker, which meant that P.J. Walker and their ideal world was a fourth stringer. And now I might start. I don't think that can ever be an upgrade. It can't be a downgrade because Baker's been awful. So it can't be a downgrade, but I can't view it as an upgrade either. There, I thought Dalvin Cook's muted snap rate. Last week was whoa. What's that? So it's status. Whoa. Boo. Dalvin low snap rate last week. I thought it was because of shoulder injury, but it was low this week to just 57 percent. 18 carries and two targets with 121 yards and two touchdowns. So production was there, but the usage was not ideal. I'm going to lower Cook. A decent amount in my mind going forward. Faces the Dolphins next week. Name that salary quick. Was 73 your role wasn't great. I'll say 73, but I know it's going to go up because of the two touchdowns. I think he was under salad at 73, but I want to lower him from being under salaried. So I would say he should be about 74. So it sounds like it's an increase, but it's it's not. He is 83. He's going to echo us one times. Very excited about that. That's no a verb, by the way. He's going to echo us. Chris Godwin ran just 26 routes on 52 drop backs. It's apparently not an injury thing, according to Greg Almond of the Athletic. They are just playing things safe with him. He said it's because they had a lead and they did, but like in name like it was a tight script and they still kind of just didn't really use him. It's weird. His ceiling is probably still good if you expect a back and forth kind of game, but hit a couple of downfield targets this week. Just kind of a pretty big ding to his median expectation right now. Tremors Etn out snapped James Robinson for the second straight week. Last week was a negative script. This week was more neutral. Etn finished with 114 yards in scrimmage to Robinson 39. That's not to say I'm on Etn. It's to say I'm off Robinson. It wasn't really on to begin with, but like firmly off of him right now. You talked about Damian Pierce. I do think it's worth touching on the past catchers there quickly too. Nico Collins is actually making Brandon Cook's far less appealing than he was. Cook's leads an overall target share by 9 percentage points, but Collins has 39% of the team's deep targets. I was never enthused with Cook's to begin with because he has a low ceiling, but now his floor is worse too. So Collins worth monitoring, not worth using. I think that Pierce is kind of the only bring back option on this team at the moment. Even with AJ Greenback, Rondell Moore's role was still decent. Played 91% of the snaps. Moore was third behind Marquis, Brown, and Zach Erts of the eight targets. Eight out was 2.2. So still not something we should slobber over, but he's at least worth getting looks. He's getting looks. Game will probably stack next week, Brandon. Would you include Rondell Moore in those stacks or no? It's really hard to have a ceiling if you are just getting targets at the line of scrimmage. It's a safe way to chip away and get points, but you have to do everything after the catch. I think that he's like a good enough athlete to do it, but yeah, it's tough. Yeah, two deep targets last week, two in the red zone total. It's not a good role. I would eat his salary to be like 52 like it was this past week and it's 56. Well, hi. Well, hi, I think for what he's at right now. I still think that if you're going to like, if you want to stack him with Kenneth Walker and then just game stack the living daylights out of Chief's bills, I think that you can do worse. Yeah, that's fair. Okay. Jeff Wilson scored and had 120 yards in scrimmage this week, but he also lost and worked seven Coleman Wilson snap raised 57%. Part of that was the score at the end because Coleman did out snap Wilson eight to seven in the fourth quarter, but Coleman also scored a touchdown in the first quarter. So it wasn't just garbage time there. I think it's worth noting that Coleman is somewhat of a threat to Wilson. I didn't really. Some people were higher on Wilson this week than I was and he was fine, but like I don't know if that's something I want to really bank on going forward. Let's go to philosophical changes from this week. Kenny Pickett made his first start at the Steelers. He they had a 58% early down first half pass rate in that game. They were at 47% with Mitchell Trubisky. Probably because they were down huge from the jump, but Pickett didn't look terrible, but they got crushed. Only five out of his 52 attempts were 15 plus yards downfield. There was heavy wind in that game at 19 miles per hour. So that could have played a role tough to rip it downfield when you've got six inch hands and it's very windy. Well, they weren't there weren't any if memory serves there were no. No dump offs. No deep passes. Oh, yeah, I don't remember any from that game. Yeah, definitely not none. Definitely not happening. Deontay Johnson, the king of the hollow target had 13 targets for which were deep. 60 yards. I did it like a search like on PFR last year, like number of games with double digit targets of less than 60. It was just like Deontay Johnson, Deontay Johnson, Deontay Johnson, Deontay Johnson, Deontay Johnson. He like he simultaneously has some of the best catches that I see on Red Zone every week and also some of the yeah, but it was great one on Sunday. Yeah, but like he also drops. I don't know what his drop numbers are, but I did see one that he dropped this week. It's just it's frustrating. Like you want to talk about range of outcomes. It's literally if he caught all his passes, but like it never happens, but his range of outcomes is bad. Like it's small. The spike getting a lot of work, which is odd. Yeah, it's frustrating. George Pickens at 83 yards. It's not just the offense. He had eight targets Chase Claypool at 50 yards on nine targets. So the targets may be more concentrated if Friday this is time, but doesn't matter. So with Pickens because I have I'm doing the waiver column for a number fire this week. So I had I think Pickens is a fine like waiver edition, but his catch rate over expectations plus 8.3 percentage points according to next gen stats Deontay's minus 4.4 Claypool's minus 7.5. So like the samples are still small, but I think that you could at least give Pickens credit for like over performing his situation. Whereas the under guys are not doing that. So I'm not saying I'm going to like play George Pickens right away, but that's not worthy. Yeah, I think that's right be as well where it's worth monitoring, but not worth using just yet. You had some notes on the Saints and Texans. What'd you see there? Yeah, I already said these numbers for the Saints, but they were super run heavy on the past two games. They're past rate over expectations been at least 10 percentage points below expected with Jason Hill being a thing that I don't think that that's going to help, especially in the red zone that could hurt the past catchers if and when they're healthy and for Houston they went run heavier this week in a neutral script. I don't know how often they'll get that ability, but when they do maybe they want to just kind of real things in past rate over expectation of minus 11 points possible if they can run the ball like they can deflate games. Not that they're the most stackable team for or against, but if a team has a bad rush defense, maybe that could kill that that game kill that other offense. Yeah, I think that's kind of the the role they can play, which is annoying. And like that kept me I think that's a good thing too because it kind of kept me off of the Jags guys who I thought were at least interesting and that did help me stay away there. So after his beneficial that they suck. So thank you Texans for doing that and saving me from mistakes. Let's dig into our salary school. Opening up the week six. Fandall main slate will scroll through salaries position by position and shout out things that stand out to us. We'll start a quarterback and nobody we got a list this week. There is no jail and hurts, but it doesn't matter. Yeah, we got Josh Allen 92 Lamar Jackson 88 Patrick Mahomes 86 with Allen and mom was playing against each other Kyler Murray 83 plan against the Seahawks. Will you spend below 83 this week? Um, definitely not burrow was burrow 8000 against the Seahawks. I have no idea. Um, and Gino's 74 Gino 74 not off that not into it over those guys but not off it. Tom Brady's head shot is stupid. I don't want to share my screen, but like I want to he's pull up your like take your phone out as you listen to this pull up Tom Brady's player card and Fandall look at his face. It's before he got his cheeks pulled in. So it's it's pre pre facelift Tom, but like his eyes are kind of psycho and he has like wispy hair. He looks very dumb. This is I can't use any more bucks rest of the year. I can't I don't think I don't think I'll play anyone below 83 unless it's Gino. Yeah, I think he's had a little more rushing than I thought. Yeah. He's been too good from the pocket to run. Yeah, I was like watch like watching him kind of roll around in the pocket like like move around and I'm like he's going to eat a sack or like he's going to do something and he like didn't really do anything to play like he's making plays like. So we use our savings at running back to spend it by quarterback this week or tight end actually because that's also a same thing over there. Running back. It's loaded to I mean like we have say, Quan we have McCaffrey. McCaffrey's role is awesome. I think he did he at one point late in the game yet a 98 percent snap right. I think it came down to 86 I think by the end, but it was because he didn't play at the end. So it doesn't really matter. He is he McCaffrey of old. No, because the offense is somehow worse than old McCristen McCaffrey and I didn't think that was possible. Yeah, he's yet to have fewer than 12 and a half Fandall points, but like OK, if I not to relitigate the Nick Chubb thing. His his maximum Fandall points is 21.3. McCaffrey. Yeah, yeah, this year. Okay, that's like Chubb is top that twice now, I think. So sure we're going to poop talk Chubb stealing. We should probably poop talk McCaffrey's to know it's it's not it's not that it's like. McCaffrey's doing it without the touchdowns, but like you don't expect them because the offense poop show can't predict Nick Chubb to touchdown games unless they happen every week. Anyway, so do we like say quan more than than McCaffrey then? Yes, they're facing Baltimore. We're going to prioritize a quantity 88 probably not. I think that he will be a decent like tournament pivot because everyone will be spending down at running back this week, or at least we will. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe that's not what consensus will be. But like, I would say he'll be like a good tournament pivot, but he will not be a core play. There's got to be we'll get down to like the mid sixes, but there's going to be some optimizer favorites and like the mid sixes that we don't really like. Like Jeff Wilson was an optimal. That's any two. Yeah. No, no, I mean, like last week, he was like you might be at this week. He's 72 this week facing Atlanta. So I could see him being. Uh, someone who pops in that regard. So we like Romandre and Breeze in the 7000 range. Dobbins at 68. I kind of like Aaron Joe, the 73, but like he's not on the same tier as Stevenson and Hall. I know that the Chiefs played a night, but Clyde Edwards Euler at 7000. He versus he and Singletary are going to show up on the field doing like the Spider-Man meme. Well, but like Singletary or Singletary did just play snaps at least. I guess, I guess they're not that similar because he doesn't really play a lot of snaps, but scores all the time. Exactly. They're the opposites. Yeah. Okay. So Kenneth Walker 65. He is like the standout down there. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Najee Harris 62 against the box, but I'm sorry for anyone who like drafted Najee Harris in the first or second round this year, but me too. This is why you play DFS though. So you don't have to use Najee Harris. I don't even deal inside of 59. I don't care. Okay. I really don't care. His rule got worse. It did. Well, he's got double digits just once this year. Maybe Clyde Edwards Euler and Derek McKinnon will both retire when he's does it at Pacheco 57. Let's hope because it now we'll talk about my season one thing. No. Yeah. I think we just pepper that mid-range like blasts the daylights out of from an exposure perspective and live there. That plus I guess is we can talk more about this on Thursday, but I think a question I'll have to answer is, is Jonathan Taylor 8,000 actually under salaried? It feels like he is. I think it's a fair question to ask, but I think he is. Yeah. I'd say it's not a bad question to ask though. So I think that's fair. Okay. Wide receiver. The Rams best quarterback is 94. Got some big names here. Well, sort of Cooper cup hasn't had more than 26.3 Fando points yet this year. That's surprising. Oh, it's weird. Three games with at least 22.4. That's what you pointed out. I know. Like a breeze is going to do any running backs have more than 20 points in three games this year. Nick Chubb almost does. Yeah, almost, but doesn't. Well, I mean, if we're doing almost then the cup's almost there in four or five games. Let's get past him. I think the digs, digs might be tough to get to because of quarterback and tight end being places where we want to spend up, but like in theory, I want to get there. Marquis Brown 82. Wow. Rude. Well, Marquis Brown, what's 82 plus? Lock it in Metcalf or 75 and 74 too. That's tough. So would you would you play Marquis Brown at 73 and Kenneth Walker at 74 together? I mean, sure. But like I'd rather play Kenneth Walker at 65 and Stefan digs 89. Sure. That's $700 difference. But like a Kenneth Walker plus digs combo is better than Breeze Hall plus Marquis Brown. Yeah. So I don't know. So I think based on the fact that we have like mid-range running backs and we want high salary quarterbacks and looking ahead high salary tight ends. I feel like we need to look in the mid-range at receiver as well mid-range and lower. So I'm going to scroll down to 7000 and start scrolling there. Gabe at 69 is a good play, but like again, it'll be very popular. So so there's that. If I do Josh Allen at quarterback Breeze is 71 Walker 65 Andre 75. You can do Bengals defense at 56. If you want to just plug that in there 36. Then I got for tight end and crew retrievers 65 25. So like you can with digs or you can get a high salary tight end. What do you like even with that? You're still kind of you're either going pure balance or you're going to get strapped. Yeah. So like even with the value at running back if you want to go into the stud tight or it's still tough. It's still tough. All right. So we're at 7000 below you said. So Josh Allen. So just basically those those running backs you had plus Bengals defense plus Josh Allen at quarterback. If I go Gabe Davis and Travis Kelsey, I have 5450 left for two receivers. That's really tough. So we're going to need value receiver. I think this week if we can if it's justifiable. I think the Cobb at 57 will probably have to be someone we think about MBS 58 given that game. I mean, I guess it is good like we could gloss over almost the entire 6000 range. Yep. Like there's Gabe. Like what's the difference between the 6000 range and the 5000 range? Besides it's like a PGA thing that we do sometimes. So Gabe at 69. A lava if he's cleared would be interesting. Maybe do Verne at 62. Yeah, I think so. But like that's it and the 6000 range. So anything in the low 5000 range that we can check out, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Also sorry to anybody roster or drafted DJ Moore myself included. He's 57 and I wouldn't even necessarily want to play him over Randall Cobbs. Oh, no. You're right. That's not sad. This is the thing like I every offseason I build like full season projections and like try to account for stuff and then by week six, it's like, would you rather play Randall Cobb or DJ Moore? And it's like, what was even the point of any of this? That's why Fandals grade and like the FS is awesome. Correct. I think we'll need to search hard for mid and low salary receivers or for a mid receiver. I guess we can go DJ Moore. Not mid salary. Just mid or the question is once we get the tight end, can we realistically bank on a down game from the studs? I pulled up tight end. I looked at $7500. Oh, no. Stay some hill. At least he's not like 4,000 or please make him quarterback eligible release this demon from my life. You're in two routes. He's not a tight end. Make him a running back. I don't care. So we got Mark Andrews at 78 in Kelsey at 83. We got to ask are they going to are they going to beat us or are they going to just be okay? If they're just okay and you roster them, you can really be like it can really hurt you. Sure. We had some breaking news. Robert on YouTube. Thank you, Robert. Apparently Matt rule just got fired. The Carolina Panthers. I clicked the wrong one. There we go. So Matt rule got fired. I don't know what this means anything like it's still been Mackity running the offense like I think it's same thing as like Baker to PJ Walker. Like is it going to get worse? Probably not because I don't think it can. Well, there's probably not going to get better either. There's some squeaky wheel. Oh, he's not really been that well. I guess he's been kind of he's been a little salty. Yeah, a little sarcastic. You mean DJ more right? Yeah. His squeaky wheel game is though like is seven targets. Five catches 42 yards. He's been didn't get in the red zone. He's back. Okay, I'm going to scroll. So okay, if we are like, I think I want to use Kelsey or Andrews a tight end this week. It's hitch for not using them would be they don't score. But then you also have to decide if they don't go off who does go off. So let's scroll down a tight end. Well, if they don't go off, you just need like something like 14 14 points is like an 80th percent outcome for tight ends. Like you don't need I mean you still need a touchdown because no, no, no one else has your other job side at tight end aside from those guys is Tyler Higby the Deontay Johnson tight ends. He has double digit targets in three separate games this year, 39 73 and 46 yards. Well, I mean, if you flip it the other way, he's got at least 70 yards in two games. No fewer than I mean, it's easy tight end, but like no fewer than 39 like you're at least getting something from him. But I could also spend less and get a guy who's gone for 89 73 88 yards of past three games and David and Joku could. I like use that as a pivot this week was using in Joku over Higby and Earth's because I didn't think they had good ceilings and like that didn't really pay off because in Joku finished with 11.8 fandal points whereas I think they were both either above that or around that Earth's had 7.8 Higby had 8.1. So like I think I'll probably just do that again if in the lines where I don't go Kelsey or Andrews just using Joku again and hope that the yardage around the converts in for a touchdown. Maybe. Yeah, I think that's fair. It's it's it's very sad that like George Kittle at 57. Yeah, is in 87% snap rate this week 91% route rate six targets just 47 yards like I don't know if he's just too hard to like be a difference maker after the catch. Yeah, I'll go. I'll try to watch some of the like I'll watch his targets and see if they're like creative at all but that's I mean if we're looking for a guy who could theoretically like match or get close to at salary. He's still got to have some of that potential. Yeah. I know you're going to hate this but like Ingram spin. No, like, no, no, no, 10 targets last week. He's he hasn't gotten to 70 yards though. So no, I'm not doing that. You can't make me. I'd rather Hayden hers is 49. I'd rather use him then. Yeah. Then whoever the person you were talking about is because I've already blacked out. Mo Alley Cox ran around on like a bunch of drop backs in week four and has mainly been dropped back down to 48 because that offense is the worst offense in football. What about your boy or Smith jr. I looked at this player card. Oh my God. Talk about yardage upside. I mean, Tonyan's the same thing. I looked at Tonyan's like snap rates. I'd see if they were getting better and they're not yet. So I can't get there at that at this point yet. Daniel Belanger the Giants wide receiver one at 47. He hasn't been worth it. Like it's really just I feel like in joku is the lowest salary tight end who has juice. Yeah. And it's tough with tight end because like is Mark Andrews guaranteed to have a huge game? No. Is Travis Kelsey guaranteed to have a huge game? No. And if like you get the 2.5 point performance from Andrews when he played Buffalo like it's really difficult to overcome that because you're using so much salary on a tight end, but he's got three games with at least 18.9. Kelsey obviously only four games yet, but 15.9 or more and three or four games. We'll see what happens tonight, but you can't really match that. Yeah. The biggest question though is like you're building one lineup. Are you playing Kelsey and value receivers or are you playing like nijoku and better? But then I guess like the mid range at receivers not appealing either. Well, the one one line of thing I'm probably going like I don't know like the Homes. So I'm probably Kelsey. Yeah. Most likely. I think it's gonna be really interesting slate next week. Oh yeah, for sure. So let's do a note to future me based around that. And I think it's been pretty crystallized throughout the podcast that like we know what the objective is this week. We know what the mission is in preparing for week six. Yeah, I think so too. It's really solidify the running backs that we want. I think part of that is looking at the Nick Chubb, Zequon Barkley, Christian McCaffrey, Leonard Fornette, Daven Cook, Alvin Kamara, tier and so like am I really selling the like am I just I'm not going to get there. I'm going to build around other players and I don't think they'll burn me this week because they all can to a certain degree, but also how good do I feel relying on multiple true value receivers who have really unpredictable usage and generally hard to find like pure upside. Yeah, I think that it's beginning to those running backs deciding how you want to view them deciding what you want to prioritize, but then also trying to find it. There is something you can like tolerate at receiver. I will say the building out a the three core running backs of Hall, Stevenson and Walker with Mahomes and Kelsey line up is a lot easier. So maybe it's do we go more Mahomes and Kelly than Alan and stuff like that. Oh, I don't know. It's like that. I think like the this is like a two part of the same question is like, okay, am I really just glossing over say Juan McCaffrey and those guys? I know I said that, but like it's also a it's. I don't know when the Packers play. They play at one, I guess. It's like it's 108 like that. I really just lock in rental Cobb. No, it's 108 and it's Oh, Aaron Joe just scored his fourth touchdown. That seems bad. Like did I really play? Randall Cobb and like George Pickens and like my main lineup this week. Well, like did I have to do this Mahomes on a by 5750 left? So it might be Cobb. Maybe not Pickens. I don't want to do that, but like it feels great to love the rest of your lineup. But then if you're one value receiver is like I had it with Curtis Samuel this week in my main lineup. And hindsight didn't love it. It's scamual for Brandon. Yeah, the way to get D'Ami Brown's career gown was for me to be heavy. So you're welcome D'Ami, but I don't look to pure value receivers is yeah, this lineup with Mahomes, Kelsey and those three running backs has a lot of dust potential with Randall Cobb and Rondell Moore in it. Like those guys could get you four or five. Yep. So it's not even like a could it's like are decently likely to yeah. So like I've done their research and yes, like receivers stud receivers have these big ceilings, but they're more volatile than running backs. But like if you're looking for like 15 point outputs from guys in the $5,000 range, it is you can cherry pick it after the week and get us made sense. But leading in that's tough. And I don't care what kind of lineup you're playing. If you're playing guys, you don't think can get you like 14, 15 Vandal points. They probably don't deserve to be in your lineup. What would make this a lot easier is if Marquez Marquez Valdez scantling has like a good role tonight, but doesn't like beast out. So he's not like super super popular. He's 58 because he actually has a path like a double digit. Yeah, just not totally common down there. So I don't know. Yeah. So maybe like maybe the maybe the go-to build isn't quite what I think maybe I got to just play like Nijoku and and a tight end and potentially. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. I think those are those running backs are the key pieces of this week still. No matter what I can't. I can't. I do. But like my future is don't mess it up. Let someone else mess it up like that is that is my no to future me. Don't mess it up. Let people make mistakes. People like Brandon. Maybe it sounds like we're like who who we become where we're like, yeah, I'm not gonna play sake one this week because I got I don't need to. I can get sake one for sixty five hundred. Well, no, sorry. It's seventy one hundred dollars. Okay. Okay. Breeze Hall. Yeah. Okay. The other New York guy. He's also a six point underdog or whatever. I don't know. Seven. He's also going to get 17 carries. It's also going to get six targets. He's also going to look amazing doing it. I can't say one for seventy one. It's fine. Let me take one. Yeah. I'm looking forward to this one already. This is a two. It's my favorite slate so far. Yeah. We've been underwhelmed on Monday shows looking forward. I'm not underwhelmed this week. I'm pretty excited about how things would play out. We'll break down to the slate in full on Thursday. That'll be live on the Fandal YouTube page at 10 a.m. Eastern will also be up on the Number Fire Daily Fantasy podcast feed after that is done. So go search for the Number Fire Daily Fantasy podcast feed wherever you get your podcast and if you like what you hear, leave us a rating and review as well. Brandon. If people have questions for you on Twitter, where can they find you there? I'm on Twitter at Gadoula 13. He didn't spell it. I was waiting for it. I know. I don't know. It's okay. I'll spell it moving forward. G-D-U-L-A-1-3. Okay. Cause I didn't know how to spell your last name. I just curious. I type into the Twitter and just like, oh, who's this guy? Who's Logan Gadoula? He's the first person who pops up every time I search Gadoula. I need to get his jersey or something. I hope he listens to the show. I don't think he knows who we are, but that's okay. I can guarantee you. He does not care who I am. Shout out Logan Gadoula, whoever you are, whatever you are. I'm on Twitter at Jinsons, J-I-M-S-A-N-N-E-S. You can also follow the FanDuel Podcast Network at FanDuel Podcast. Good luck to you with your Monday single game slates. We'll talk to you on Thursday. Get yourself what should be a fun week six. This has been the Heat Check Fantasy Podcast powered by Number Fire.