 Thanks again to Cameron, as always, to go over the agenda, the minutes, sorry, to circulate the minutes. For our agenda, we're going to go over the agenda, approve the minutes, I'm going to make a couple of comments, talk about the creative discourse proposal, and then check in about the stipend program and then the committee and committees, and then everything else that we have time for, and as is relevant. Anything else to change or add or whatever, cool. So let's have folks looked over the minutes already, pull those up there in the attachment for the original one, let's take a minute and read those over, and then we want to make a motion to approve, do that, Michael make a motion to approve, Jeremy seconds, all in favor. Hi. Hi. Any opposed? Great. Thanks. Work. So for the consulting with creative discourse, I reached back out to Sue immediately after the last meeting, she got back to us like a week later, and then of course Cameron and I never responded or touched base on the proposal that they sent because I just dropped the ball. So Cameron, I don't know if you've had a chance to look it over, and if you want to just like talk it over, kind of what your thoughts are. So I guess I couldn't understand what, so they had that on the second page, they basically have like two options of co-facilitators or a single facilitator, but I think it's really bizarre that the choices were for multiracial team versus a single facilitator. We don't have an unlimited amount of money. So my first choice would be going to the single facilitator regardless. I just think that that was just a way, we're just saying it's a bizarre way to frame that, but I don't know if we would need multiple people to help us review policy. So my immediate thought of, you know, being good stewards is to, you know, use only what we need. So that would be my one thought is that I think we'd be okay with a cheaper option if y'all feel comfortable with that. I'm okay with that. I also wonder why we need five sessions. Am I the only one who wonders why we need five sessions? I wouldn't mind. It's more set. I want to make sure we're doing this right. I wouldn't mind five sessions. And if this is too much, we certainly have a lot of other equity work that we're trying to do that I would like to hijack that time to talk to them about. Okay. And I just dropped in the chat what you put in her email to for context. It's not like a hard pitch, it's just like building, you know, building relationships is important. And so probably more for their original proposal, it like was a harder pitch. And now that we're using this more for reviewing the documents, it's probably less, less critical for perhaps, but Helen, Jeremy, do you have any thoughts? I think for this kind of targeted scope of work, lean towards one facilitator, one consultant, I think I'm just going to trust that all their consultants are really capable, competent in this area. So I think given on, given that it's, we kind of went down primarily like Cameron needs some real support in the implementation, understanding how we're going to do this right. So I'm okay with the option one facilitator up one facilitator option. I think we could also ask if, if that's not enough, if we could always expand that, if they recommend that we expand that, right? Like if we're not getting, if they don't feel like we're getting what we need, or we don't feel like we're getting what we need, we can always ask them to help broaden that scope and, and sort of invite other people to assist and pay them more, you know, anything else in the proposal that like language changes or clarifications or anything like that, are we ready to move forward with the option A, with the option of expanding to more meetings or just expanding general? All right. And I think we made the decision last meeting that we, so we don't need to make any decisions this meeting, but just wanted to check in on it. So Cameron's going to circle back with Sue and get the paperwork signed for the option A 1500 support for the rollout and implementation. That feels really exciting. That's like a big, big, big next step. I feel like we've been kind of like turning our wheels a little bit. This is great. Hello, Carol. Hello, Lauren. Welcome. We're on item six of our agenda now of we just talked about the, the, the consulting with creative discourse. I just pause there too. If there's any public comment, Carol, in particular, if there's. Great. I am interested. I let Cameron know that, and I think in our leadership team meeting, I'm interested in helping out with the work that's going forward around diversity, equity and inclusion. So just keep that in mind. We're having a staff change soon. I don't think we're going to be able to do that. Maybe not right away, but yeah, I'd love to help out with that. Carol. So yes, I think our next thing is all the stipend program. And this is back, back to you, Cameron. You've done all the work. Well, to be honest with you, our finance department. As you all know, last week was. Last meeting and this meeting. Was not focused on this. I apologize. So I still have pending asks to finance and to VLCT to talk about what insurance they think we would need. Or if there's any. I don't know. We're worried about having someone as a paid staff versus. Just what we need. So I have a pending request. I don't know anything about that. So. Thank you for being patient. Last week was just not a good week to ask them to do anything, to be honest. So. I will have more information on that piece. By next meeting. But did you all take a moment to say budget pass? So we have. Oh yeah. Yay. We didn't do that. Thanks, Lauren. Yeah. Yeah. So. That was very exciting. Everything passed, right? Yeah. All the stuff we had in there. And then we have this survey. Discussion on the agenda here too. And I think maybe this is more just like Jeremy and Pellan and Lauren, had it been like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lauren, you're on the call us to two of this, the language in the survey, we were going to circulate to, um, create a discourse with three scientists agreement because they just like, we're like, we're not going to look this over until we have that. You know, agreement in place. And so if there was any other changes or updates or thoughts about that. We're also not going to have that go live until the April. February. So we're going to be more involved in that. I think that's a little bit, I don't know if I should say that, but I would just hold up either. So I need to. We made a bunch of added oopsies. That's not what I was looking to do. Um, Made a bunch of edits like in the meeting, but I'm still needing to come up with a intro language as support. This is a community demographic survey. Yeah. I feel like you can hear somebody's computer trying to think really hard. Sorry. It's on its way out. One thought I had as far as an addition would be to ask directly about interest and receiving a stipend. Yeah, that would be good. That could maybe be just like an additional question that doesn't tie to some of the things that we'd want to track before and after. I would again like to advocate for Latinx to be taken out of the designations. I don't know a single person that identifies as Latino or Latina that agrees with that as a designation. How about that? I would like that to be language that we ask creative discourse what their thoughts are on, because I've seen a lot of really conflicting. What's the word I'm looking for? Articles, studies, first-hand counts. I do think it's something like 3% of people with Hispanic origin use the term Latinx. So it's very, yeah. We ask what the language is that people speak at home that's not English? Yeah. We have, it's interesting. So you remember I talked to the school about what they're, and it's interesting because the school has different languages that are most prevalent in their population versus like Montpelier at large. And then I had questions about the housing. I'm sorry, I'm just sort of, I feel like I'm dominating this conversation, so I apologize. Keep going. Okay, I did have questions about the housing one. Could we maybe specify home also means like apartment if that, you know, because I could see that tripping up some folks about home versus apartment. What do you mean? Yeah, and this is where I'm just like, Montpelier with this language. What type of housing do you live in? Yeah, no, it says, so what is your housing, which is confusing? So I would say what is your living situation? Oh, got it, got it. And the next one, yep. And then just say, assume, you know, assume this also applies to apartments because it says I rent my home and share it with family. We could say like house apartment or you know, put in a little preamble that says apartments also count because then it does ask what kind of housing you live in, which I think is important. This is the next one. Yeah. Maybe just reverse the order. Yeah, that too. That would be easier, wouldn't it? Probably. And can make the change. You know, this is like a thing for these types of surveys is like, for these types of surveys in surveys. I know you're supposed to ask demographic information last because it like impacts how people respond. And so being like, what? Yeah, like what up? Like the order or anything does matter of like how, you know, for how people respond to the answers above. Like I think it is a thing. Like if you ask people's race first, they like answer other, yeah, there's like some science about it. I'm making that up, but I'm not making it up. Like that is, there is science about it, but I'm like, I don't know which one goes first. And so I'm not sure if they'll know too and how much of an impact it'll make because these are all demographic questions, you know, basically. Because that wasn't something I was like mindful of and as I was trying to frame it, I was like, what? Questions I feel like would impact how I answer this and things. Yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't, if no one else, I don't think, though, I mean, I think some of the order of the questions, but you're right. They're all demographics questions. So I don't know if that would matter necessarily. We're intending to run this by creative discourse once we get our contract signed, okay. Cool. So are we going to reverse the order of these two, these type? Yeah, if you refresh it, you should be able to see the, if you refresh the page, you should be able to see the changes that I was just making on the call. Sorry. And so then also on our agenda is pilot proposal. And I think what we decided last meeting, and I know I just looked over the notes like 10 minutes ago, but I think it was that we're just gonna do first come first served. So be really explicit. We have 30,000 dollars to work with once that funding runs out. We're done for the year. But yeah, just being really explicit about that, but not having it be for specific committees or for having any type of means testing or anything. Cool. Was there anything else for that pilot proposal? Bullet point? No, I just, you know, I included that in the agenda just to make sure if anyone had thoughts since last time about that. I think packaging all of this will be important. I can work with Shayna to sort of write out all of this if that's okay with everyone that we can talk about next time. And then it's sort of a package that we're handing over to Creative Discourse instead of, can you review this? And then can you review this kind of thing? We're hopeful that they will give us some feedback so that we can use this for the Committee on Committees meeting. And that is the idea. Okay. Will we be looking for any additional feedback or oversight from council once we get our kind of package finalized? Lauren, what's your sense on that? I think that's a good idea. All right, I just got pulled away by a call. Is our proposal has to go back. Yeah, I think presenting to council, if I'm understanding because there was definitely a lot of questions. I think that would be great. I don't think after the Committee on Committees call, just like once everything's finalized or even getting their feedback, I'm not fully understanding. So I think before would be good. I think what is it, April 6th? Lauren, am I hallucinating? I don't know what meetings are. I plan a day ahead at this point. April 13th, there's a meeting. It was an under meeting, April 11th. April 11th is the Committee on Committee meeting. Yeah. So we want to have a meeting before that. I think it would be important to present it to council before it goes to the Committee on Committees. I know we've had that time held for a while. What are your thoughts on pushing it back a week to like the 18th? Was that like? Pushing what back? Sorry, the Committee on Committees. So that you have a chance words to go to council on April 13th to tell them what the plan is and how you want to communicate it out. I would actually prefer that, but that's just. The 18th is Easter Passover, Tax Day, everything. Oh yeah. That seems like, it's like the holidays of my calendar. Like, whoop, everything's happening. Okay. Is there some version even that could be sent before the March 23rd council meeting? I know that's tight. To me, I would be worried about getting it signed, getting the agreement signed, then getting the package together and Creative Discourse reviewing it before the 23rd. I would hate to tell them to impose a really quick turnaround for them, to be honest with you. And we think April 6th is too short of a turnaround between the city council meeting and- No, the first council meeting is the 13th. After the 23rd. It's the 23rd and then the 13th, got it, got it, got it. Yeah, it's always, it always gets sort of bumped up when there's five Wednesdays in a month and there's five Wednesdays in March. Oh. I mean, is there a way on the 11th to, if some of this we were kind of rolling out, but if it's like, it's also gathering input. Like I wonder if this is like, it's still a work in progress. We're working with Creative Discourse. We're gonna bring your input, Creative Discourse's input like to council and finalize a plan. So it's like more like an earlier stage in the process of like, because we had talked about part of that agenda and wanting to get people's feedback on it. So I think it's fine to do it as like a draft. That makes sense to me. Thank you for bringing us to a logical place in that, Lauren. It's 8.30 in the morning. And I'm like, oh no. What? I was like, hit not all cylinders. Great. So wait, can you repeat that? So I can look at my calendar as you're talking about dates. Let's see if it really does make sense. Yeah, yeah. So I was thinking we could plan to present either April 13th or the next April meeting to council. Use the 11th, just to make clear that you're kind of, it's like a soft rollout where you're still gathering input both from the participants there and from Creative Discourse. And so like we'll be back in touch with like the final plan. But so it's like a work in progress on the 11th. Hopefully like baked enough that we're getting able to get input but clear that it hasn't been finalized or approved by council or anything. I mean, I don't know that needs to be approved by council but has been presented to council. And I think there's tons of time for y'all to, you know, you have a, I think you're scheduled, okay, 9th, 23rd, 26th, that would be the 6th. So I think you could push any updates you want to give to council to the last meeting in April and then you'll have a meeting in between the committee on committees and then a council meeting to sort of discuss and finalize and then roll it out. Okay. That's good. That helps us too, as we're planning the, you know, agendas for the next few months, that helps us as well. Cool. Can we talk about this committee on committees meeting then? So I'm sorry, I just drafted up this very basic agenda but I think these are the two parts that we had talked about was having there be a discussion about like what your committee is working on and how, you know, you're incorporating equity and what questions you have for other committees. I think it'd be great if we could spend a little bit of time thinking about what are those discussion questions and how do we want to frame that. And then the other piece is that having, you know the overview of what C. Jack is working on and the stipends process coming up and how are they accessed and why is it important and how to do the pre-survey and, you know all of those pieces, but kind of splitting it into those kind of two different sections. I think that is what we've talked about. And so when I drafted it up, I originally put the overview of C. Jack on the stipends first. And then when I was kind of like thinking through what it would look like, like you switched them. And so I'm not sure if that totally makes sense. So just, I think like big picture reflections, reactions, anything like that. Okay. And so then I think the other piece is that for discussion questions, I was just like, hopefully it'll just like get people talking. I don't know what questions to ask. I don't know why I was stuck. But I'm just thinking like, what is your committee working on? How are you incorporating equity? What questions do you have for the other committees? You know, recognizing that we're gonna have, you know, between 10 and 20 people there. And we have about 40 minutes to be able to like do this section of the agenda. You have an hour and a half altogether, but with like the welcome and intros and with the review next steps and just kind of splitting it in two. It's like not a lot of time. And so would we like one idea that I think I had was to have people prep one slide to be able to like, you know, keep it moving and you know, kind of do the thing where you like the slide is going. And so it's like, when your time is up, your time is up, you can't ask questions. It's like not really a discussion. It's just a presentation or we could like split into small groups or you know, there's lots of other ways that this could look. And so I didn't know if folks had thoughts here. Everyone has something they're going to be here. Yeah. Would it be helpful for me to review what we did the first time around? Because the first time around it was basically all this section. It was like we went over a little bit about CJAC and then we did small groups and then we did large group discussion, right? Or? Yeah. Yeah, so we had two prompting questions really for the small group discussion. What equity issues are most relevant to your committee's work and what equity issues is your committee currently engaged in? And that kind of got things going in the small groups and then everyone got back together and kind of shared out in the full group with some, I think we're paying particular attention to maybe things that didn't, equity issues that didn't get brought up that were important to capture. I agree with Jeremy about reviewing because lots of the committees told us they are already doing things about DEI, so maybe we can ask them, okay, you mentioned this, what happened since something like that? I think that's a good idea and that would have been my suggestion because I think it's important that y'all are putting pressure on our other committees to actually do something instead of just talk about it, right? Like make sure that they're being equitable in the way that they're processing their policies or their recommendations. I think it would be important to sort of call them on that, so unlike what they've been doing. Or they can say, oh, we talk about this but we couldn't do anything since then we can say, okay, what happened? What were your obstacles? How can we help you to overcome that? So maybe it might open other discussions for further collaborations. So can you repeat how you would frame those questions? So my, yeah, my original idea we met before and you talk about your activities related to DEI, could you please repeat it and can you tell us what kind of progress you had? Then according to their answers, we can ask, okay, what happened? If they say, oh, we talk about this but we couldn't do anything actually because of that. So okay, how we can help you? What are the obstacles? How we can overcome together, you know, like more questions to make them talk about their ideas? Yeah, and then if they didn't come or if they can't remember anything else then we have those other questions of like what equity questions are much relevant to your company's work? What equity questions is your committee most engaged in? And other stuff to come up between the last meeting and now too, but we can have that be the prompt. Yeah. Helen, I like your suggestion about maybe digging into barriers to doing this work more this time around. I think that can give us some good information about how we can be a support or an advocate for what they think they want to be doing with equity issues. And do we folks think having the discussion first and then going into the stipend work makes sense? Like we'll be like cutting off the discussion, essentially. Is there an order? I know, this is, yeah. Do you see Jack and stipends overview first and then do the discussion? Cool. I think that's the important information that y'all really need to get out. So I'd put that first and then let people chat. I'm looking for the minutes I sit out so we can resend that out so people know what they talked about. Right. So I'm just gonna put that in the chat. Like the rework, does that look great? I like the way, like the flipping and Helen's suggestion for how to frame up the questions. I guess my only thing I'm wondering is like, like I like reflecting back on what people have done and it could be a chance for some of the committees might be like, we have something to record. It could be like energizing like, look, someone's like, recognize they were like, we've been doing work or giving a chance to recognize the barriers. Like this feels very like backwards looking though. Like is there a way to make it useful? Is it like something you've been working either like some equity work you've done that you can share with a group or like a barrier you faced and then a project coming up that equity is gonna be really important and you wanna make sure we all are aware of it. But I know that there's not a lot of time and there's a ton of committees. So I don't know how to really, or like leave with a like, just like put in the chat something you're gonna like, some way to like capture or get people like thinking forward looking and not just like reflecting back. I wonder more on that. There's one kind of forward facing prompt that might be interesting. It's the kind of, if I had a magic wand, what would I solve around equity issues within the kind of control of my committee which might give us a sense of priorities that people have about things they really would hope to work on in the future. Jeremy, do you mind like repeating that question? I wrote the essence of that question but it did not come out as eloquent. Thank you. Yeah, it's, so I think the prompt would be, imagine you can you have a magic wand and within that power, what equity issue would you kind of fix so to speak if you could that's within the control of what your committee focuses on. So I think the, it's more of a visioning kind of question because it's not, what is feasible necessarily or what is doable in the short term. It's a bit larger than that, like getting that kind of hoping and dreaming. I think it sounds like overall keeping this all in one big group and just being able to keep moving, great. We're going to send this out ahead of time so they have some time to think about it. Is that the plan? Yeah. That's a great idea. So my, once y'all had sort of finalized an agenda, I was going to send out the actual invite to everyone. I wasn't certainly going to put anything on anyone's calendar until that was done. So I can do that this week. And you do want this to be a zoom, right? As opposed to hybrid or in person or. Okay. We have not talked about that. Well, last time we talked about it, we're like, we can't do anything this summer because Omicron is everywhere all the time. It's just like whiplash, whiplash. Does anyone have any thoughts on that? You're definitely not hybrid. Is that. It's terrible. So it's one or the other, but. I go for zoom. More equitable. Yeah. Accessible. Yeah. And then we can mute people still. No. Just kidding. Okay. All right. So this, the question, this, because it's a public meeting, it goes out. There's a general. This information that this is going to happen. See, that's the thing. It's not actually. A meeting of anybody. It's a meeting. It's, I mean, it could be a public meeting. If you want it to, I don't think your last one was advertised as such because it's not a committee meeting. There's no, there's no quorum of anyone except y'all. So it was just norm warned as a C. Jack meeting. I'm not advocating for that. I just wanted to know if it was, if it had to be warned as a. Because we are all city committees. If it had to be. Warned as a, as a public meeting. No, I will probably warn it as like a C. Jack special meeting because you're the only one. I'm not advocating for that. I just wanted to know if it was, if it had to be warned as a, because we are all city committees. We just, we just wanted to know if it was a public. Let's just, let's just, let's just. Jack's special meeting because you're the only quorum that will be there. Like, y'all. Sorry. The lesson we've had folks register to be able to come. And I remember that caused all sorts of problems and like text messages. And so I think we're just not. Let's not mess with that. Right. It's like, it was more like, we wanted to like know. No registration and we can record it to share it with committees who can't come about it. Okay, cool. Yep. Um Can we talk about roles? I'm like, does anyone Want to hold I think we should all hold some role in the meeting for like, you know facilitation and Overview and and sharing and so if anyone has me any one of these pieces that they're most excited about by all means Any part any facilitation that's needed I'll just Just let me know Be there to take notes and be your mute person Have a power. Yeah We're not doing breakout sessions. Is that right? This is all plenary. All right. That's fine. I'll see you there. Then I don't think there's necessarily we don't we all need to have a role, but If there's not going to be breakout then we don't need to have people facilitating small groups And I think I'm okay with having fewer people Do things and if there's more to do, you know, can you can you lay out what else you think needs to be done? And then we can decide if we need to one or another let's take a role in that Yeah, I think maybe the I think the roles are like You know doing the welcome and introductions introducing, you know, who we are and the social and climate justice advisory committee Um doing the overview of the stipends is another role. I think um and kind of going over what the process is going to look like and the survey Taking questions for that And then I think like another role is, you know running the discussion Um and making and like having you know opening going over the questions And then maybe another person's like to like set the timer and to like move us along and call the next person um, and then the yeah last one is really the You know wrapping up the review next steps like what if there are people who are like i'm going to connect on this like capturing that um And then just doing like a you know quick e-mail and close at the end so I think it's just like I can do like the welcome grounding overview of cjack piece at the beginning if that makes sense I'll be the timekeeper if you need a timekeeper. Yeah So who's going to talk about the stipends? I'm happy to help with that like either do it or if we want to tear up on it or something If there's any specific like finance Things that people have to do all um, I'll discuss that Do you want me to facilitate the discussion portion great And then Helen can you do the closing reviewing next steps to the e-mail all that? Yeah, of course cool All right. I'm sorry. I keep this pasting us into the chat because it's really annoying to read because it's not like formatted but I think those are the pieces so should we each prep our own individual pieces like if you know for i'm thinking like for the um Siphon piece and be helpful to like have some slides to be like, you know, here's the numbers Here's what we're looking at. Here's the link. Um, and probably for cjack overview too Should we just each do those and then kind of can compile them stuff like all together? cool Okay, we've got about 10 minutes left anything else of the committee and committee's planning. Um I don't know what we've like worked great Nothing else on our agenda Ha ha ha famous last words. Okay I'm like links to myself. Okay. Um, but yeah anyone have any um, yeah report backs from other related city committees and council Other than hey, oh, we got our budget um Yeah Cameron. So, um, just so everyone knows, uh I've told you before that the leadership team is for the city is working on getting lockers Uh for folks experiencing homelessness. We are presenting that Not tonight, uh, but the following council meeting. Um, I think we've worked out the implementation plan We've worked out where they're gonna go. We've worked out which ones we want that DRC has approved it for behind the rec center. So we're looking for councils Feedback and buy-in on that Um, and that will be going to the homelessness task force next week for their feedback So just letting you know that that is moving forward It's a big deal for us So that will be the city committee meeting on march 23rd All right. Yeah, the city council meeting on the 23rd. Yeah, great Thanks Super pumped curious. How many lockers will that include Cameron? It was two sets of Eight so 16 big ones. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, that's a I think that's a big deal And part of the discussion for a long time now. Yeah, I know Did they figure out the lighting back there? Yes, that was a question. Okay. Yes, we figured out the lighting So, um, there's two It doesn't really matter, but we're going to have motion detector lighting shining on the lockers So that if anyone approaches them the light turns on and it will be angled away from any Housing or other structures around the rec center cool And then any update on the public restroom committee? I know, you know, like that was it's been over a year now And yeah, so just if there is any um a timeline or conversation update there. Yeah Well, there is some conversations So the homelessness task force asked council for funding and they were approved for 15 000 to pay a consultant To tell us What would be best served? Like what kind of structure do we need? What does it need to have in it? Right. So if we need bathrooms, what else do we need? In addition to that, right? So we're not trying to build a bathroom and then go back and build another thing like a day shelter or something right as a separate entity. So um We're gonna see you, you know, we're in a place where we don't know what we don't know Other than we need a bathroom, right? So yeah, hopefully that consultant will help move that conversation forward cool And there was money Like part of the budget had designated like a chunk of ARPA funds Of the city's ARPA funds for that and I know that there's been At least lobbying going on to try to convince the state legislature to invest Montpelier is our state capitol. So we think the state should be helping support this project to financially So I don't know if that will bear any fruit, but I know conversations are going on there Great And then any other yes self-education learning report backs to share as well I've like stopped reading books. That's my I'm just like I'm a stack of of hard non Nonfiction books that I'm just like, oh, I just can't can't that's It's very silly is what I'm trying to say. Okay I have a recommendation because I'm in the same I'm having a hard time taking new information right now But I did a few weeks ago, right? I read rebecca solnitz hoping the dark um, which she first wrote in like 2003 to the 2004 and it's been updated a few times um, and I found it a really encouraging book to read in this particular moment of craziness um in particular there's a historical perspective there that's just You know reminds me of like oh what it was like to live And be paying attention like right after 9 11 and the iraq war and afghanistan war um, so you get I've had a comforting to get a sense like yeah Things are really messed up But they've often been messed up in other times and people are doing really good work And there is hope to be found In different pockets, so It was it was an uplifting read for the most part if you need that kind of thing right now Thank you Yeah, any other business? I think Our next meeting is um, sorry just clicked away from my calendar Next meeting is going to be march 23rd right before the city council meeting. Um, and on that agenda, we're going to Do what hopefully get a report back from? um The uh creative discourse review and any steps there um Maybe do some work time on the committee on committee's planning, but like also That yeah, we can maybe we can have a short meeting and then we can just have it be a work time to work on that Right. Are there other other pieces? You know, we have other like bigger picture things that we could be tackling like outreach to immigrant and refugee groups proactive educational events Communicating our work to the community But I think maybe waiting until after the april Community and committees would Would make sense to do those but up for whatever else Either thoughts on next agenda Sorry, I Spelt my wheels there I just have a Note. I'm gonna be Traveling for a while So you're right be me Um, I'll be gone from march 20th to April 7th So I'll be I'll be off the map for that time Have a great trip Cool Well, see you all see you all then except for Jeremy Who's gonna be having fun? All right. See you all