 Welcome to ToffeeTV, we've been doing a lot of interviews recently keeping you up to date with all the Evertonians around the world and today we are joined by a Marvel artist who has written for Spider-Man, the Avengers, Star Wars characters, he's fully amazed into pop culture and that's why I'm doing the interview. It is of course, Will Sliny from his fantastic, brilliant mate, look at his studio. Now his studio is absolutely incredible, it's any, I'd say boy, but that's just any man's dream to have a studio like that, Will. Yes, my career has been from working in my own bedroom to working in a spare bedroom and I finally have a room built for it now after 10 years. That's how I've kind of categorised my career. That's the dream mate, waking out of your spare bedroom is the dream. Now you can hear the living out of this spare bedroom, I think is doing very, very well for themselves. Yeah, definitely. So how have you been coping in these very strange times? Obviously you said that you're in your studio and you've had to diversify a little bit recently from what you normally do? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, like I normally, I've been working from home for 10 years, so I'm well used to that side of things. Obviously it's a little bit different not being able to see your mates or anything like that and not having any sports on at the weekends and things like that. But in terms of my working day, it's pretty similar to what I've always been doing working from home, but yeah, it's diversifying a little. I've been doing tons and tons of comics for the last while, whether it was Spider-Man or the Star Wars, but now I've started a video side of things where I've been teaching people how to draw and there was kind of no better time to do that while all the kids were stuck at home. So it really took off and we've had 30,000 drawings sent our way over the last of the while and it's keeping me a lot more busier than I thought it would, so it's cool. Have you had to grade them all? You haven't had to get your red pen out and your black pen and some gold stars? I actually judged an air competition years ago and I swore I'd never do it again seeing a kid cry in front of me. So I swore I'd never do anything like that again. So it's all positive stuff. No school homework or no marking or anything like that. That sounds like literally the worst thing in the world, haven't it? Oh man. I'll never forget it because I was judging an air competition and this one kid was convinced he was winning it. As I was saying the name, he just got all really excited and was about to jump up and I said a different name. And he started bawling and crying so that's officially the last time I'll ever judge an air competition. We'll come back to all your comic book stuff in a moment because obviously I really do want to add. So honestly I'd rather talk to you about anything else but how does a lad from Bali County Court become an Evertonian? Yeah, it's all true. My uncle, he's been going to games since the 60s. He actually was working over in London on a road outside Wembley when everyone ran an FA Cup final and he couldn't get into it. He couldn't afford a ticket or something back then. But he's been going all of his life basically and it kind of got passed down to me in the cut, as we say. And I've been going ever since and always been an Everton fan. It's actually easier for me to get to Liverpool than it is for me to get to Dublin. It's a little half an hour flight from Cork which is handy and it's always a Ryanair flight. So it's been quite easy enough for me to go to games and stuff like that and to stay as close to the club as I can. So yeah, so there you go. And obviously we've been blessed with two absolutely massive heroes for Everton and Ireland and Kevin Sheedy and Seamus Coleman. That must give you a lot of pride to see that because we've been looking back at a lot of stuff recently, certainly a lot of the 80s stuff and the more you watch Kevin Sheedy and the more you realise what a player he was for not only Everton but for Ireland as well. So it's just made me doubly as proud to see something like that and obviously Seamus Coleman. Yeah, definitely. I mean like he's a hero here anyway for his goal against England in the World Cup. But yeah, there's always been a great relationship between Ireland and Everton going back through the years. Even like three or four years ago, we'd four of our first team players with a good bunch of them. So hopefully that will keep continuing on. There used to be Home Farm Everton, a club here as well which had a link to Everton as well. So who knows what will happen going forward but there always seemed to have been an Irish player in the team and Seamus is just a bit of a legend for both Everton and Ireland. Like he's such a sound fella and like a real kind of, you know, he's got that real loyalty thing that a lot of players might not have now and it's really like I love the man. Since after Duncan Ferguson, he's become my Everton hero since then with being the Irish captain as well obviously he helps. Yeah, that must really help inspire other people to become Everton fans I think with Seamus Coleman. There's a lot of teams out there and obviously Liverpool and Manchester United have huge support in Ireland but to have the Irish captain and not only that but just because of the way he come to prominence the whole 60 grand thing coming from directly from Ireland, becoming an Everton player and then obviously the way he plays it's like something out of comic book just the way he plays. His story is like a comic book, he then breaks his leg playing for Ireland, he comes back and then it's all the other things on the side, all the stuff he does, all the charity where he does as well. We heard of something I think just last week where he'd given money to a young lad and there's no hairs and graces about him. There's no fanfare either when he donates this money. He just does it because that's Seamus Coleman and that's who he is. Yeah, he comes from a real small little Irish town similar, literally on the exact opposite side of the country from where I am but you can see that kind of village mentality in him. One thing over here, they won't let you get an ego about yourself which I love about Ireland. Everyone's the same and that's the way he carries himself as well I feel. You just know when he's back in Killy Beggs, he's just one of the lads I would imagine. Yeah and funny enough I heard the story about him, about how his brother went into the club shop in Liverpool City Centre, Everton 2 Liverpool 1 of course is the address. With basically a share for every single person in his little village, he got them all printed up and then he signed them all and basically just went and handed them out to every single person. Probably got his dad to do it in the pub I imagine. It's stuff like that which I only heard about that because the guy in the shop told me but there's no fanfare, he's not looking for any kind of publicity about that. He just does it because that's the kind of guy he is. Yeah, good lad. You've had obviously the pleasure of drawing a lot of Everton plays as well. This started under Roberto Martínez and I'll always remember the programme cover and it is of Seamus Coleman. We had them up in our studio, I think it was signed by you and it was signed by Seamus. We had them framed, they've still got a framed back cover and it was brilliant at the time because you were coming through, you'd done some Marvel stuff and you'd Everton latched on to you and you've done a cover for the third kit. I'm looking at it, it's just sitting on my table there, a cover for the third kit release, the green one. You had Seamus Coleman, you'd done a little spread within the programme for Roberto Martínez and at the time it was like all these worlds colliding for me, Marvel and Everton. Everton were doing really well and so how did that come about? Yeah, simple as that. Everton basically discovered that there was a Spider-Man artist that was a fan because I think I posted up a drawing of a couple of drawings like that one day and I found out quickly through Twitter that I was just across the pond over here and that I was an Everton fan so they reached out. It was quite a big project, it was the tale of the Toffees, they called it. On the inside there was a comic book and on the cover of the programme it was Seamus and Seamus actually told me in fairness to him, his mum has that up on her wall as well at home which is nice. They've been brilliant ever since and I've worked for a ton of different departments inside there and they've really kind of brought me in and made me feel like a part of the club which is nice. I had a lovely relationship with Umbro through that as well. That's how the third kid cover or a third kid release image came about and then over the years it's been different things. When they celebrated 10 years with Chang they did a big presentation over in Thailand which was presenting them with a big kind of mural that I did of the Everton team and of course there's that one inside in the stadium. There's a big mural in the family section that you can pose with and they've other plans for more things as well going forward in the future so it's nice. It really opened that door and what was really nice for me is that from my uncle bringing me over to games when I was young I got to bring him back over and we got to be behind the scenes and meet like whoever the manager was at the time and he wouldn't have stood out beside the pitch before and things like that whereas now it's a case of coming in because I kind of know the gang there. So it's lovely and there was even one day we were inside in Finch Farm and Duncan was there and he just literally just took us to the side for a few hours and brought us up into the players lounge and he chatted with my uncle for about half an hour and by the end of it both of them said to each other that they couldn't understand a word each other said with his strong Irish accent and Duncan's strong Scottish one. So it's nice, it's been lovely to be invited into the club in that kind of a way especially for my uncle I think it's been fab. Yeah and you mentioned there, so it's like in the family enclosure it's like a traditional team picture isn't it with all former players and you've obviously done, you did a collection of all the umbro kits as well so all players wearing classic umbro kits in a team picture as well, that was fantastic as well. Do players come up to you and do they want you to draw you or when they find out that you have been drawn by or are they delighted because that must be the thing, being a footballer I think we forget is that that's their job and to us that seems like the most fantastic thing in the world so that they come up to you when they see themselves in a comic book form and go are they like amazed by that because that to me would be like the next step for them because everyone always wants to be something else don't they they've got the perfect job to us but they're probably like oh yeah Brad I'd love to be I'd love to be a Marvel artist or I'd love to I want to be in a comic so when those players see themselves that are they you know they're delighted by it and they'll give you you know they want more and more of it. Yeah different reactions from different players it's funny like the first time I met a bunch of them was when we did the press image for the third kit basically all the players it was the day when they were to you know when they you know all those videos that they shoot for Scali and the Premier League where they'll turn around and walk to the camera so it was the day of filming that so basically I was inside and finished for them while they were doing that you know each one had to come out and do it for the different companies and so so we showed the players that were in the in the in the image you know asking what they thought about it and it's funny like some of them almost default straight into that kind of media trend of going oh that's lovely fair play or whatever but then so it kind of breaks through past some of them and it depends on who they're like a good example again then is Seamus like within two minutes like we were talking about GA over here and things like that and some of them I think some of them are a little bit concerned about the green kit when we did it to be honest which was funny was one of their first time seeing it but yeah it's been nice and again Seamus and Duncan actually Duncan when he saw that on row 11 picture he really seemed to really get get something good out of it as well so but it really depends on their personality you know so some of them are some of them are really really normal and some of them I guess feel like they have to just go through that normal kind of you know all well done thank you or whatever they can't kind of break past that yeah a lot of them are but for the majority of yeah a lot of them are obviously very guarded on because like you just said it's all down to the training and how they're brought up they're very wary of outside people and I understand why that is and have you encountered any players at Everton who are really into comics or into comic book films is any does any of them come up to you wanted to know more about what you do rather than what they do because there must be some who are really into comic books and comic book movies yeah they're not that nerdy I've been trying to crack them that way for a little while and I know yeah yeah even I was watching an interview with Seamus and they were they were mocking him for watching Game of Thrones or something like this yeah they just don't seem to be which is a shame because it would really work well with the drawings then like so like like like Richard listen obviously it's seen Star Wars and stuff that was one of the latest things that I did and I got to hang around with him a good bit like but I don't really see him sitting down reading spider-man unfortunately which he should he might help him learn English a bit better so we asked Seamus about like we interviewed him last year and Baz I asked I said to Baz I want because it was like it was coming into the last season of Game of Thrones and there was so much hype about it and I said to him Baz ask him if he watches Game of Thrones or anyone else watches Game of Thrones and he asked them and and honestly his reaction couldn't have been it was like we punched them in the face when we asked them if he liked Game of Thrones it was like I asked he was like I asked James McCarthy about that and he said he had dragons in it and I was and I was thinking man you're Irish just you've got nothing but stories you've got nothing but incredible stories and this thing is filmed in Ireland you should be respecting this I was so disappointed it's like it's like I'm back in yeah it's like we're back in school again when they haven't got the memo that nerds are cool now so they're still kind of a big guy about that side of stuff so so and I really want to I just want once a bit I just want to see like Tom Davis skateboarding like a spider-man t-shirt or something like just waiting it because it's cool like not a new spider-man t-shirt something that is like it's been in 14 charity shops and has faded to death but I want to see Tom wear them on just so I can go yeah at least there's one person who's into the things I'm into as well so yeah shame shame us needs you just think a boy from a small little village in in Ireland would be into it would be into dragons no no comic shops up in Killy bags that's it obviously you you started with them one of your first things was the Celtic warrior comic book which is your own little thing now I've seen images of this that were based on shameless from the WWE were they based on him or did he just become the the look of the character and why because he's a horrible red so no it's actually the other way around so so he had nothing to do with the book but when it came out he started slagging me off on Twitter asking why it wasn't based on him so so any basically he was saying why doesn't he have red hair and things like that so I kind of fired back at him and in fairness to me back down straight away this is before I knew his his big Liverpool legions is but yeah that's what it was so he's not no he's not in the book we talked about it if I was going to carry on and do another Celtic warrior book to have him as one of the guys but I think now that he's Liverpool fan I might kill him off early yeah yeah definitely yeah find someone who's like got a leg and everything tattoo on their arm but like it's not it's not an event that he just looks like an event tattoo to be fair he seems like a soundfarer I know he's done a lot of interviews with the guys at the Redman TV he does come across as a genuine guy like but you know you can't have him in your comic book and what again you've done a lot of spider-man and the amazing spider man and spider-man 2099 and I remember one of the things I remember you from was you actually managed to get like some like an evidence scarf but it said Saint Domingos and I think like a poster on the wall in Peter Parker's apartment and at the time did anyone else understand that or was that just you just trying to just get those evident legions as into a comic well there was definitely a few letters from Liverpool fans sent in to Marvel saying that they're not gonna read spider-man anymore when I stuck those in the background which is hilarious I did a little bit of that at the start I'm a little bit more careful about that stuff now for sure like you're not gonna find any Everton Easter eggs in Star Wars lore unfortunately which would be hilarious to do but yeah that was a bit of fun we made we made Spidey an Everton fan actually it was Spider-Man 2099 his girlfriend was big into sports and stuff so they asked me to put up some fake sports teams and things like that so that was a good idea to put that in there and it hasn't come back to bite me yet thankfully. Has anyone from Marvel ever know that they know anything other than you just think just fake teams? It's just not part of their world. So this is why you need to keep doing it then push keep edging it up just literally til finally you just have Seamus Coleman on an entire wall like graffiti on the outside of a wall in New York. How would anyone know? Will we set you the task I feel like you'll just be letting us all down if you don't do it. I lived in when I was starting out I lived in New York for a year just kind of because not that I needed to be over there for it but it was good for it and I wanted to as well but it was back during the time of which World Cup was it? God it was I suppose eight years ago now or the one around and I can't even remember where it was on but like there was literally one other body of mind that worked in comics we were the only two that were going out to watch all the football games so they're just the ones that are sporty inside Marvel their baseball and American football are their games particularly baseball there's a lot of Mets fans in Marvel actually so I've been to a few Mets games with them but no football hasn't appeared in their radar yet but it is it's like you know yourself like it's growing massively over in the States so it's becoming it's almost like a new sport to them. Yeah yeah you mentioned you know you've done a lot of Spider-Man 2099 and we've seen an appearance of the character Miguel O'Hare is that what you're pronouncing? He got a little cameo in the end of Into the Spider-Verse last year what what were your thoughts when you're seeing that because obviously that movie took I mean we've all been not used to in the last 10 years being used to the MCU the Avenger films but when Into the Spider-Verse come out and it's obviously directly what you do you must been blown away by that film in particular and then seeing the character that you've drawn for so long getting that little cameo and setting it up for the second film. Yeah no it was brilliant no no I did get about a hundred messages before I went in going state to laugh at the credits I was like oh there you go Spider-Man 2099 is in the credits but it was cool and I'm definitely excited for Spider-Verse 2 for sure like I can't imagine there won't be tons of Spider-Man 2099 in it like he played a big part in so I actually drew the Spider-Man 2099 part of Spider-Verse in the comic book you know so like it would just be amazing to see the stuff that you draw kind of come to life like that which is always one of the really cool things that can happen like before that like I worked on a lot of characters that are in a story with Valkyrie who you see a lot in the tour movies now so I'm really hoping that like they don't tell us but I'm really hoping that those characters that I got to create will end up in the new tour movie and things like that so it's just a really nice part of getting to kind of play in these worlds seeing where those characters go after you've kind of created them and like they'll be around for longer than I will like you know like that's just so bonkers about it all. Yeah that's the best thing isn't it? They're yours but then you pass them on to someone else you must take so much pride because as I said you know seeing something that you've drawn and it must be amazing as I said especially when it's in the same media that you drew it in because obviously Valkyrie's in the movies now and played by Tessa Thompson and that's a great book to see something that you've drawn and it to be such an accurate representation must give you so much pride. Yeah it's amazing there's a scene in Thor Ragnarok which is like they'll often like you can you can just imagine this Marvel Studios and stuff they have tons of comics around for inspiration and stuff and the very one of the first scenes that we see Valkyrie as a Valkyrie is the exact same shot as the first drawing of Valkyrie that I had in that Fearless Defenders book like you know so little touches like that are fab for us you know but the dream then is always is to see the characters that you create you know make that transition into whether it's like animated shows or movies and things like that which is amazing. Now more recently you have gone the other way you've taken characters from movies, certainly the Star Wars movies and you've put them in the comic book where the Star Wars comic book where there's really exploded recently and now when the original films come out they had a time with Marvel and they did a lot of stories but more recently obviously with Disney being purchased in both Marvel and Star Wars you've had that now crossover where these characters who we've seen on the film in movies sorry but we might have only seen little bits of them in films and we want to know more about them those stories have been taken and put more recently into the cartoons but obviously in the comic book world as well so we've seen Darth Maul go away and do things people wanted to know more about Darth Maul he hasn't just been cutting off he's out there in the real world he's done stuff but you've done in particular the character of Becky from Solo so anyone who's seen Solo the movie about Han Solo the character that is role model in the movie you did a comic book for him and expanded his world. Yeah that's one of the great things about Star Wars is that everything works through Lucasfilm and what they call the story group that's like the core story so the stuff that we do is adding to that Star Wars canon if that makes sense. So yeah Becca was the first that I did then I've done some adaptations of the movies where you add in extra scenes but in particular the Galaxy's Edge book and the Kylo Ren book then both really kind of got to expand on things like perfect example is the Kylo Ren book like you if you've seen the new movie if you go back and if you read our comic book you'll understand his character so much more and why he does what he does and why he ends up the way that he ends up because there's a huge because you're basically if you can imagine that if you're compared the comparison between Kylo Ren and Darth Vader like you originally would have just got the story of Darth Vader and he ends up you know turning to the light side at the end whereas many many years later we got to see the Anakin Skywalker side of how he went on his path through the dark side and stuff so with Kylo Ren and Ben Solo whatever so all of the you saw the Darth Vader stuff like it is in the movie whereas the Anakin Skywalker stuff for us which is the Ben Solo stuff we got to tell that in the comic book which is amazing so I think that's definitely one of the the real big impacts on Star Wars canon that we got to do and then for the the Galaxy's Edge side which is mad as you know only too well I was over there last year with Baz Oh I'll tell that story in a moment don't worry So like so that was cool because they were building this whole new Star Wars land and I was in kind of at the ground floor of that as the whole thing was being built and we kind of created a story that was set there so that when you're in the park all the locations that we use in the comic book you'll know so much more story about that which has been amazing to be a part of Yeah it's getting better and better and it's getting more a lot of this stuff as well not only is it selling really well but it's because of the whole media world attached to it now the YouTube channels looking for all the content they're latching on to all this stuff now and so all the information is getting out to people even if they don't read the comics we want them to read the comics we want them to read the books the PlayStation games it's getting canonized and all this information is getting out there now and so people are starting to understand like you just said these characters getting flushed out more and what's great for that is and I might sound like a terrible boreus a comic book bore but we're seeing that stuff like Ahsoka Tana who was originally in Clone Wars went into Rebels and now she's going to be a live action character in the Mandalorian so all these characters that you've helped create or have been part of the process are getting a chance now to be part of the live action world eventually and that must be exciting for you knowing that if you are part of the birth of a character that character one day might be on the big screen and for millions and millions of people to see yeah like if you told me that when I was a kid I'd never believe you I got to be a part of that you know because it's it's it and I think that's one of the real credits to Star Wars is that really you know when you're younger it encourages creativity and like you know you there's all this big world out there and you might do your own little fan art and drawings and fan stories and things like that as well and the fact that that can kind of lead into like I obviously have this love of comics but to be able to affect Star Wars canon like that is amazing and like I know the team well and other that are inside Lucasfilm and how they but the way they're able to balance and control that story and be able to you know bring it out in so many different ways that lots of different people look like like people love reading a book about a character or a comic book about them or watching the movie or of course the animated series and now the live action TV series which is obviously amazing and then once you once you create something that goes into any of those that then exists for any of these creators that get their chance to play in that field and exactly like you said with Ahsoka like she's such an incredible character but I never would have believed that she would have made that transition from the Clone Wars so many years ago to now see her in live action that's just going to that's an incredible thing to be able to see in the next season of The Mandalorian and it's exactly what the fans want as well and what they what they absolutely crave for it's all it's everyone's dreams are coming true because all these characters that we've only we only ever thought would be either on page or in a comic in a comic or on a cartoon and we're now going to finally see them in movie and then and then you get the other side of it where like you've just said you've got you've got an actual theme park which is you've written a comic for and it's crazy the way it's all gone and the way it's back and forth and all the time so you can walk into a theme park in Florida or Anaheim and be in a place that you've written you've read about and you might have read about it first and that's what is so unique about the whole world now yep, yep I agree so yeah, so last year you Galaxy's Edge was getting opened in Florida and you were there as one of the guests and it just so happened that Baz was over there at the same time as well someone who'd never ever hinted to me that he was a huge Star Wars fan the call came from you the call came from you to say you were around and the next minute I see pictures of Baz basically living my dreams out for me I mean thanks Baz for living my dreams for me but he got to experience Galaxy's Edge with you going on the Millennium Falcon a boy or dream he said, do you know what I mean? I always thought you wanted to score at the Gladys Street and all those kind of things but no he wanted to sit and be the chewy to your hand essentially in the Millennium Falcon what was that like though being in Galaxy's Edge and it all being quiet and getting the chance to do all those things of course with Baz of course yeah I was bonkers it was definitely one of the more amazing things I look at it and I've had some amazing opportunities with comics and one was this relationship I got with everything I got to play in Goodison, things like that but getting over to Galaxy's Edge from drawing this place that didn't exist to then it becomes real and then I got to go over and basically be in the park for a few days before it opened and just have the place to myself to the canteen and trying out all the drinks and just running around the Millennium Falcon and then what they were kind of having there it was their opening night when they kind of told me look we might be able to get you a few passes if you know a few people around and literally Baz was just in the right place at the right time so we got to bring him in with his gang which was great no fair play fair play I remember at the time I was like answer your phone answer your phone like because he was I was messing he was like I've been asleep I was like get on the phone to Will now yeah yeah yeah because it was a one-time only thing it was for like they had that couple of hours of that opening night or whatever so we got them to him in the end which was good fun yeah it was brilliant it looked brilliant I mean it's even worse because I was due to go to California in June and I've got it all planned out planned out you know I was got it all planned out I've been watching I don't know if you've seen this but on YouTube there's all videos of people because now they have virtual cues for the galaxy's edge the rides like the new rise of the resistance at all and you have to get and there's video like these videos on YouTube they're absolutely insane of telling you how where you have to be what time you have to be in the park what you need your phone to be on open to like you need to go in the park then out the park so you get a clear bit of like internet signal on your phone I've been watching and preparing only to have my holiday cancelled we're not cancelled, delayed by how long but there may be a silver lining to this because by the time you get there hopefully the new Avengers park will be open in LA so that's the so I'm and the space crews they're expanding galaxies and it's going to be even bigger as well like so yeah so I was like but what I was trying to time it to see when you were going to be in LA obviously getting us free passes so we'll have to I'll talk to my people you talk to your people and we'll work that out you mentioned before just fine you mentioned before you're doing this you're on YouTube at the moment and you're doing this we will draw so you're getting all the kids from all over Ireland to draw are you teaching people to draw as well via the videos and just trying to get them creative juices flowing while these kids are at home pretty much yeah like I kind of I kind of had been dipping my toe into the YouTube waters just a few months ago and I kind of invested in the setup and thankfully had it before this all kind of kicked off and even I did a video with Everton where we showed how to draw with Charleston which was good fun before I was over for the the United game which was that the second last game before this all stopped yeah it was the last whole game yeah so I drew the cover for that program which was nice and so the video shows you have to draw him but really it was just an excuse for me because I said look if you want me to do this can I kick around with him just to learn how to draw him which was obviously totally made up I just wanted to have a bit of kick around with Everton there but we did that which was nice and that was kind of the start of it and I had this setup for it and what happened then was so we closed the schools a little bit earlier here in Ireland about like I think it was like two weeks before he did and like so my wife and my mom and it was definitely a real feeling of doom and gloom but I went online and you know people send me art anyways but a lot of kids that send me in a few drawings because they had nothing else to do and I kind of sparked the idea of well why don't I give it kind of a bit of a direction onto this and you know put out a daily art challenge and I was expecting you know maybe like a hundred drawing just something but like the first day we had a thousand Spider-Man drawings the second day we had two thousand Star Wars ones like I was just sent a video like with Japanese subtitles for me talking when it was shown which is crazy things like that so it really has gone all over the world which is nice it's nice that there's a you know I think a lot of people stop drawing stop art maybe possibly even before they should because they don't realize that there is a career in it when there's very much that kind of side to it now and it's much more accessible and more demystified and I think a lot more people are drawing you know in this time often than would have done before so who knows where that will lead for people but it's been cool I have a and they've given me a little slot in TV in Ireland here now for five minutes today or I do a little art lesson and who knows where that will kind of lead onto and I'll keep doing videos and live streams on YouTube as well which they've been a bit of a blast so as you well know yourself it's like it's it's totally that side of it was totally new to me and I think I was even on to you going oh that's what do I do here I can get the live feedback from the video but you know I'm starting to figure it out and it's been a learning process but it's been good fun for sure and it's amazing seeing all of the drawings yeah it's definitely setting up YouTube channels is definitely a lot easier than being able to draw comics I know which one I'd rather well I know which one I'd rather do but I know I can do one quite easily but the other one I'm a terrible drawer so just before we let you go what is your YouTube channel where can people find you yeah just just search my name nice rare name with slimy and it should pop you up my little WS logo you'll find the channel so yeah there's a Roshalis and video on there already and I plan on doing a few more kind of football ones in the future I'm talking to a few people about that so that would be good fun and like like there'll be more and more everything stuff as the years go on as well so I'm going to try and try and do that as much as I can like not just have the drawing out on Twitter or Instagram or something for joiners well it's been absolutely pleasure speaking to you about my other favourite subject which you know I can't really have these conversations with Baz he just gives me funny looks we have got him on to we've got him on to Disney Plus that's like the first step it's the first step that there you go to get him into the MCU I've told me he's got to sit down with his boy and watch them you know he wouldn't be a good father if he didn't sit down and watch the MCU with his son so we'll see how that goes but well it's been absolutely pleasure speaking to you and I'm hoping to see you absolutely thanks so much and I love the show keep it up big thanks to Will Sliny for joining us on Toffee TV you can find his YouTube channel at Will Sliny if you search for it on YouTube he's got all the tutorials how to draw and just search his name for all the stuff he's done spider-man he's done Star Wars and he's done all that ever and stuff as well don't forget give this video a like if you haven't subscribed please do and if you want more great videos join us over on Patreon the link is in the description we'll see you soon