 2pm. Okay, looks like we are live, folks. Welcome, welcome. If you haven't already, please put your name and location in the chat. Love to hear where you're from. It is really exciting to see so many folks from all over the country and around the world. Italy, Myanmar represented, Canada, all over the continental United States. So it's great to see everyone. Today, we will be talking about professional development resources for OER adoption and creation. We've got an excellent panel with us today. So what I'm going to do is just kind of give you a little bit of overview of who we are at CCCOER, introduce the panel, and they're going to talk about three different areas of professional development, kind of a really wonderful resource out of Texas called Texas Learn OER. Then we'll talk about copyright and licensing, which is always a popular topic. And then we'll talk about, say you are familiar with OER, what's the next step? How can you learn more? How can you become more engaged in the community? So we'll hear more about self-directed learning and building a community. We'll share some resources with you and have a Q&A period and then close with some upcoming events and ways for you to stay in touch. As always, please put your questions in the chat and I'll be monitoring that and we will try to redirect those to the Q&A period or answer them in the chat as we can. So our panelists are from around the U.S. We have Ursula Pike who's the Associate Director of the Digital Higher Education Consortium of Texas or Digitex. We have Shana Hollich who's the Interim Director of Library Services at Wilson College. And Cheryl Couillier, Open Education Librarian from the University of Arizona. I'm your moderator, Nathan Smith. I'm the Faculty and Residence OER Coordinator at Houston Community College and also a Philosophy Professor. CCC OER's mission is to expand awareness and access to high quality OER, support faculty choice and development, foster regional OER leadership and improve student equity and success. The primary way that we do that is by building a community of practice through our member organizations from around the U.S., Canada and connecting with each other through these webinars, through a very active listserv and through a really helpful website with lots of resources for you. So if you're interested or have questions, please visit the website at ccc OER.org and become a member. Okay, so I'm going to turn it over to our first presenter, Ursula Pike. Great. Thank you so much, Nathan. Welcome, everyone. I'm so excited to see you here. So if you could go ahead, yes, perfect. I am going to talk about Texas Learn OER today. So again, I'm Ursula Pike. I'm the Associate Director of the Digital Higher Ed Consortium of Texas. I am also a member of CCC OER's Equity, Diversity and Inclusion Committee. So what is Texas Learn OER? It is a 10-module asynchronous self-paced training on OER basics with a Texas twist. And it was launched in August of 2020. It's a Google site and also a Google doc. And I'll have a link to that later. And it's CC by. So it's open for adaptation. If you could go to the next one. Yes. So the origin story of Texas Learn OER is that the great Kerry Gitz, who is a librarian at Austin Community College, as part of her Spark OER leadership program, she developed ACC Learn OER. And Dr. Judith Sebasta, who's the Executive Director of Digitex, and I really loved this resource. We thought it was great and easily understandable. And so we worked with her to adapt it to be broader, to address the whole state. And let's see. And so she created Texas Learn OER. If you could go to the next slide. And it included many of the same things that were in ACC Learn, but then it was broadened to look at the requirements in Texas and some of the issues in Texas. And it took about six to nine months. And I want to make it clear that we compensated Kerry for her work. I think it's really important to remember that these free resources that we're creating actually take a lot of work. And it's important to compensate the librarians and the faculty and folks if we can for their work. One thing that ACC Learn OER had that we brought over into Texas Learn OER is having it peer reviewed. Could you go to the next slide, Nathan? So we were able to get some fantastic folks from both in Texas and then outside of Texas who could give a nationwide perspective. And they gave us reviews and they gave us great feedback. And we were able to incorporate that into the Texas Learn OER modules. And I think this is a critical step in developing any OER. So if you could go to the next slide. So as I said, it's 10 modules. And one of the modules, for example, here is module five, finding and evaluating OER. And here's the information. And I think it's also important to recognize that we reused some existing really good resources on OER basics. So for example, Abby Elder at Iowa State University has a phenomenal course with great videos and information. And we reused some of her training videos, some of her content, and other sources as well. So I want to be sure to point you to Abby's great resource if you're also looking for basics in OER. If you go to the next slide. So as I said, it's OER basics, but with a Texas twist. So that Texas twist is information on the landscape of OER, what schools are using OER in the state of Texas, and really critically looking at legislation around OER. Because Texas has had some specific legislation in the last session and then in the current session looking at how they want OER and open education to show up for students how to make sure that students can find it in the schedule. And so this was really important to us to make sure that we gave people this information as part of this. And this is something that we are continually updating and making sure that any current issues that come up are part of this. Because in the year since we created this, there have been changes. There have been recent developments. And so we want to make sure this part is updated. The next slide please. So one of the most important parts of Texas Learn OER is the certificate. We want people to be able to test their knowledge after they complete the 10 modules to test for understanding. And then to get a certificate that they can maybe they can get some CEUs for that. But it shows that they completed that they can add that to their CV. It shows that they put some effort into understanding OER. The next slide please. So on the copyright and attribution module we have a link to the Google doc. And the reason why that's in there is we want to make sure that people are taking this resource and adapting it for their own use. So there's instructions here but then also specifically in Texas Learn OER there's instructions for how to take the existing resource and adapt it to your own. And the next slide please. Because as I said we want you to take and adapt Texas Learn OER to your local content. Rice University has taken it and created Owls Learn OER and then other colleges here's an example of one Northern Virginia Community College has created their own resource but we have talked to numerous other states about developing their own and we are happy to talk to you about how we work through that and give any advice that we can. But we really think that this is a good resource and it can be made better by addressing institutional or regional issues related to OER. So that's Texas Learn OER. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. And y'all if you have questions please share them in the chat and we'll come back to Ursula in the Q&A period. But the next speaker will be Shanna. Shanna go ahead and pick up. Yeah hi everybody I am Shanna Hollick. I'm the Interim Director of Library Services at Wilson College which is in South Central Pennsylvania in the U.S. And I'm going to talk today about where you can go to get some details and some training and information about the licensing and copyright parts of OER. So the more you get into OER a lot of people we find end up having some really specific and detailed questions about well how does all this CC licensing stuff work anyway? What are the copyright laws in my jurisdiction? How do I know what I am and I'm not allowed to do with certain types of content? So on the next slide here I have what I'm going to spend most of my time talking about because it's kind of the biggie. Many of you may have already heard of these creative commons which is a you know global organization they make licenses they support the open movement they do all sorts of things. They also run these certificate courses and there are links throughout the slides will be shared along with the recording so you'll have access to all of this stuff. What the creative commons certificate courses do is give you a really in-depth look at the CC licenses there are six of them sort of seven. The basics of copyright the foundation of creative commons and open practices in general. It's a 10 week course. It is asynchronous but it's cohort based so you register for a specific time frame and you have weekly deadlines that keep you on track. The course materials include ungraded quizzes for you to just sort of check your understanding of concepts and then there are graded discussion forums and practical exercises. So there are also optional opportunities for enrichment we do webinars for example with actual lawyers from creative commons where you can just really ask them absolutely anything that's on your mind about licensing and copyright and OER sorts of things. We have a slack workspace where you can network and engage with folks taking the course from all over the world. The course is open to absolutely everyone courses run multiple times a year registration is pretty much always open at some point. In fact registration is open right now for our course running in June. So on the next slide here there's a little bit more information. If you go to the registration site which is put in the chat you'll see we do offer a couple different specializations. So there's a certificate for librarians which is focused primarily on issues facing academic librarians but you know is applicable to to multiple library types. There's a certificate for educators which is designed for educators of any type. Those courses usually see the broadest audience people working in classrooms from K-12 in higher ed. We have people from the Wikimedia Foundation taking that course people in nonprofits and NGOs and we have a newly developed certificate for Glam workers so these are folks specifically working in galleries libraries archives and museums. We recognize that they usually have some different concerns and some special considerations around OER. The CC certificate course does cost money so unfortunately it's not 100% free. The money pays for expert facilitators who guide you through the course and give you really detailed and individualized feedback on all the assignments that you do. And the assignments is really the heart of the course we design them to be very hands-on and practical demonstrations of knowledge so we usually encourage folks to you know make an artifact that you can actually use in your work. So a lot of people make lib guides or videos or even just you know write up a word document with like ideas for a future lib guide or video. But all of the course materials are CC by licensed so they're openly available. There's an audio version for people who want to listen in the car and there's several translations and I believe that link was also put in the chat on the resources page and there's a ton more information at certificates.creativecommons.org. I've seen some people in the chat have taken the course. One of our other facilitators is here. Hi Paola. So any questions always happy to talk about the Creative Commons certificate courses. But I also wanted to take a few minutes to talk about some other options especially you know I'm aware that pandemic especially has kind of made things a lot harder financially for a lot of institutions and so it can be difficult to kind of afford some of these professional development opportunities. So on the next slide here there is another course and this is a little bit of a shameless plug I will say because I also teach this course. So there's a course through Library Juice Academy. Library Juice Academy is a professional development organization that is geared primarily towards librarians so everyone else bear with me for a minute while I talk to the librarians in the Zoom. What we've done here is because the CC CERT course is openly licensed I've been able to adapt some of those materials and expand upon them in a shorter version focused specifically on librarian needs. So there's this four week course available through Library Juice Academy. It's also an asynchronous course but with weekly deadlines. It has similar material but is less about the specific intricacies of the CC licenses because that already exists in the Creative Commons certificate courses and I do a lot more in-depth discussions on exceptions and limitations to copyright especially in the US and Canada which is primarily where the audience for LJA is. So we talk a lot about fair use we talk about the Teach Act and we talk about some other open license things that go beyond Creative Commons. Registration for that course is also open now. It does cost money. The course materials I'm actually still editing them at the moment in preparation for the first week of June when we run this course. It just ran for the first time in January and I'm taking some of that feedback and running it again in June but I'm hoping to publish those and make them openly licensed so that further people can adapt this content because copyright law is tricky but there's no reason that we can't make this information and knowledge more available and open to anyone who's interested. And on my next slide here I have for people who start dipping their toes into Creative Commons licenses and are like you know what this copyright stuff seems really cool and I want to get super into the nitty gritty details of copyright. There's a lot of information out there but these are courses that I have taken in the past and so I really recommend them because I think they were great. These are both run through course era so they are free the content is completely free. It's mostly watching videos and doing readings with some quizzes. You can pay extra money for certificate but I didn't for example the content is just out there and there's both of these courses are asynchronous they're entirely self-paced. There's one on copyright for educators and librarians and one specifically is about copyright for multimedia which I found especially helpful as we transitioned more and more things online due to COVID and these courses were developed by super smart copyright folks. A lot of you will be familiar with Kevin Smith. He was integral in developing these courses when he was still at Duke so these I also recommend they're much shorter than the first two courses I talked about but they have a really good foundation and someone in the chat just mentioned Copyright X and that's what I'm going to talk about as I wrap up here so on the next slide I've called this the one course to rule them all. This is arguably the most comprehensive and legally rigorous copyright course especially the one that you can take for free. It's run by the Harvard Law School in partnership with Harvard X and the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society. It's arguably the one that's closest to a real course if you want to sort of relive your college or grad school days. It is synchronous so there are weekly readings and videos you read actual case law so it is fairly time intensive. There are weekly synchronous lecture seminars where your attendance is required and the only assessment is a comprehensive final exam that they I think they estimate that it takes I don't know something like 15 or 30 hours to complete it's intense it's very research heavy where they give you several legal scenarios and you actually analyze them step by step using the legal tools that you've learned. When you take this course when I took it they ran an online section for librarians and it ran concurrently with the actual copyright class that Harvard law students took on the Harvard campus during I think it's a first-year law class so you're getting the same content that those law students are getting at Harvard. The course is free it's open to anyone you don't have to be a librarian or a professor you don't have to have a PhD you do have to apply to take the course and explain why you're interested in it. Their enrollment is limited admission is pretty selective but on the website here that also was put in the chat you can find the recent syllabi and those are openly available and they have links to all the reading materials and most of those reading materials are actually actual case law and judges opinions so that's all material of the federal government it's mostly in the public domain and that's a lot of fun to read through if you really want to see like oh well I know how fair use I they told me I can use this thing in my OER because it's fair use but how did that happen or why is that so you usually can find the readings in the copyright syllabi that actually show you oh here's the actual case in X year decided by X judge where it was decided that this is fair use in the US you can actually see where a lot of that stuff comes from. So that's all I have for now but I will be here at the end for Q&A if anyone has any questions or wants to know anything else definitely feel free to put questions in the chat so thank you to Nathan to Una to Liz you know all the folks at CCOER and at Open Education Global for putting this together today. Thank you Shana this is great a lot of shout outs in the chat for your facilitator skills so that's great and lots of great information here thank you. Okay now I'm going to turn it to Cheryl Collier. She's going to talk about additional networking and and learning about OER and I think Cheryl's having a little difficulty with her bandwidth so we might not see her video which is fine. Cheryl I'll turn it over to you. Thank you. Yeah I'm going to keep my video off for now and and pray that you can hear me. Okay next slide. So I've been asked to talk about more advanced professional development opportunities and so I've divided these into two buckets. The first is building a community and the second is kind of self-directed learning so this first bucket is all about the importance of doing things together because we can do so much more together than we can separately. I think developing partnerships and networks is critical when adopting and creating OER. The OER community is incredibly generous and supportive and people are always willing to share help and advice and templates and encouragement so I'm going to go through these resources OER Twitter, listservs and newsletters, learning communities, task forces or action committee committees and the read us community. Next slide please. So I resisted Twitter for a long time but Anita Walls at Virginia Tech convinced me to get involved in OER Twitter and she was right. It's a wonderful community and a great way to learn about new OER projects, research and training opportunities. These are just a few of the groups and people I follow. You'll quickly expand your network and in the chat I'm going to drop a list that Nathan compiled of other Twitter recommendations. Okay next slide. Like OER Twitter, listservs and newsletters are a good way to learn about professional development opportunities and to build your OER community. I subscribe to all of these. The digest option can be a good way to reduce the number of emails that you get and while there's some duplication and postings each one also has unique content. If you're adopting OER and looking to see what's available the Spark Lib OER archives are a good place to check first. Spark stands for the scholarly publishing and academic resources coalition. There's a rich history of help with OER topics, often hard to find subjects. There've been things like mortuary science and all kinds of topics that people have asked for help on. So those are archives for you to search. Spark's monthly community call is library focused but it's open to anybody. Recent topics have included leadership in Oakland education, inclusive access, otherwise known as automatic textbook billing, OER outreach and events and commercial use of Creative Commons license materials. There's an archive of notes for the Spark community calls which you'll get access to when you sign up for Lib OER but I don't believe the calls are recorded. Okay next slide. So learning communities can be another great way to do professional development. In 2019-20 I co-led an OER community and then in summer 2020 we did beginning and advanced press books communities to coincide with our campus launch a soft launch of the press books publishing system for OER. I partnered with a nutritional sciences instructor on the OER community and with the digital learning instructional technologists on the press books communities. We did these with zero budget. We used the resources of faculty affairs larger faculty learning community program to market ours. So this helped with communications and it also serviced people that we didn't realize were interested in OER. I've set up a Google Drive folder with our press books learning community resources so feel free to adapt anything that you find there. We cover topics like copyright, fair use, CC licenses, open pedagogy, project management, collaborative annotation with the hypothesis tool, interactive H5P activities and accessibility and the weekly folders in that Google Drive folder include PowerPoint slides and agendas and follow-up emails that you can adapt and they have links to lots of different resources. If your campus doesn't yet have learning communities I recommend reaching out to campus partners to see about starting one. There are lots of different models for learning communities. Karin Pakula who's the OER faculty development coordinator for Minnesota State has previously shared about their learning circles where participants get a stipend and she did some great sessions for the open education network and those recordings are available on its YouTube channel and the links are in my slide notes. Okay next slide. So speaking of campus partners is really valuable to build networks of OER stakeholders. At the very least you can see about organizing a list serve. I use ours to share the OER digest with campus. We formed an OER action committee a few years ago that includes all of these partners. Campus also has a new student success and retention innovation unit that I need to recruit. Other potential partners could be cultural centers, your fundraising foundation, your institutional research office. If you do course marking, your registrar. I encourage you to be creative when thinking about who your partners could be. The Rebus community is another great resource for professional development and it was co-founded by oh sorry I'm on the wrong side. Next slide please. This is another great resource for professional development and it was co-founded by Press Books founder Hugh McGuire. It's a fabulous community for collaborating on OER projects and for getting help and support. If you're looking for co-authors on an OER project, this is the first place I recommend going. The top URL on this slide offers links to resources like two of the great guides published by the Rebus community. There's a guide to making open textbooks with students and the one shown here, the Rebus guide to publishing open textbooks so far. It also has links to the monthly office hours webinars with the open education network which cover all kinds of publishing issues. The next one is May 20th with the fabulous Abby Elder that Ursula referenced from Iowa State and she's going to be talking about faculty authoring workshops. On the Rebus site you can also sign up for their newsletter and read through their archive. This second URL is a help in questions page where you can ask questions about OER creation, for example latex issues. It also shares resources on accessibility printing and lots of other topics. Okay next slide. So I'm calling this second bucket professional development resources self-directed learning and when I graduated from library school in 2008 I'd never heard of OER or Creative Commons. I've built my knowledge through lots of webinars and trainings and conferences. These are, there's lots and lots of them available. This URL here at Google Doc is a list of conferences that CCC OER has compiled. With the community's emphasis on open and the idea that sharing is caring, many of these are free or low cost. I think there are three conferences happening just this week alone. The OER toolkit is something that I've put together and it features a variety of resources including many of the ones I've talked about today as well as things on accessibility, finding OER and evaluating OER. It's licensed CC by so feel free to customize it for your own institution. And next I'll talk about the Open Education Network's PUB 101 curriculum and open pedagogy resources if you're involving students in the creation of OER. So the PUB 101 curriculum is part of the Open Education Network's publishing cooperative which OER members can join. I went through the training a couple of years ago and it was fantastic. OER members can contact Karen Lourton for more information about the cooperative. Karen tells me that the next synchronous cohort will probably start in spring 2022. But the PUB 101 curriculum in Canvas is open to anyone and is licensed CC by and the various units which are kind of outlined here have really useful resources and templates for OER creation like an adaptable OER publishing agreement. I really recommend this resource for anybody who's working on OER creation or adaptations. Okay next slide. Lastly this is a link to the University of Arizona's press book site which features open pedagogy resources at this URL. It includes ideas for open pedagogy assignments as well as videos resource guides and tips on doing open peer review. Our press book site also has lots of other self-directed learning resources. So I will pass it back to Nathan now. All right excellent so many good resources Cheryl that is just amazing. So one of the I think things that we've seen in this webinar and I'm going to try to capture some things in the chat here. Let me just forgive me for a second while I try to rearrange something on my desktop so I can do that better. At any rate we one of the things that we do want to do is to share these resources with you and so we have created a Google spreadsheet that is that is the first page of which is borrowed from the Arlo professional development matrix so that is just a list of lots of the resources you've heard about some others that you haven't heard about today and then an attempt to kind of identify what the company sees and skills and the audience is for that resource. So that that should help and thank you Liz. Yeah Arlo stands for regional leaders in open education which was a project as part of OE global. I think it was started last year last academic year. So we want to also share we have another sheet so one sheet is the professional development matrix another sheet is just a list of additional resources so try I want to try to capture some things that are in the chat and try to load them up there as well. And then finally to help with that networking piece we've also included a copy of statewide a statewide leaders directory that that I believe rebel coming Saul put together recently and that's a really helpful way to just identify people that are in your region or state that you might be able to reach out to if you're starting up a project or looking for collaborators. So I actually have a question for you in the chat before we turn to questions for our panel and that is do you have a state or local OER group that is an excellent resource that maybe hasn't been mentioned so far or are you looking for one maybe you're from a state or a region where you don't know of people throw it in the chat let's see if somebody if we can create some connections today. Thank you Jessica I see northeast OER summit being in there that's a great regional conference. Yes thank you Una. Okay so you know if you if you want to put that in the chat please do and and also if you have questions for our moderator I mean for our panel please throw that in the chat as well I've kind of been following a couple of the conversations and so I'd like to next just turn to kind of a discussion question period we have you know ample time actually for for some discussion and questions so if you have questions for the panel you know you can you can you can ask in the chat if you'd like to unmute yourself and ask it live please please do that. So just yeah go ahead and and and if you want to indicate either with a raised hand or a or just throw something in the chat and let me know that you have a question I'll be happy to acknowledge you and you can unmute yourself and ask the question. I do want to say one thing that a couple things that came up as we were as we were going through that I wanted to know Ursula on the Texas Learn OER do you have any feedback from folks who are using say the certificate as part of a performance evaluation process or some kind of a review of professional development at their local institution? That's a good question and I am not aware if if there's anyone I know Judith Sebesta uh Dr. Sebesta the executive director of Digitex is on the call and she might have she might know but as far as I know there isn't one anybody using that. Judith if you had a if you had something to add that'd be great I I just think the the idea of bringing OER professional development and OER creation as part of a performance evaluation process is such an important thing for institutions to do but just wondering if people and so I'm glad you all have that certificate which I think is great so I was wondering if folks are using it but. Nathan and Ursula can you hear me okay? Yes go ahead. Right that's a great question Nathan you know we don't currently have a way of tracking that so like Ursula I'm really not certain to be honest I sure would like to know whether or not folks are actually using that particularly in promotion and tenure processes or for hiring processes but we really don't know at this point we're going to try to figure out a way to track that better as well as the adaptations that are out there of Texas Learn OER again we don't have a really good a good means to track it it's mostly been anecdotal so far. Yeah that's great thank you so much and then I saw Yoli Bergstrom Lynch had raised her hand so if you want to go ahead and unmute yourself it'd be great thanks. Hi everyone I'm Yoli Bergstrom Lynch I'm a research instruction outreach librarian at Trinity College and I'm the person that's primarily responsible for expanding our OER program and I recognize Shanna I did the Creative Commons certificate program for librarians with her and she's absolutely outstanding so I cannot say enough about her as an instructor but anyway my question is so at Trinity right now we have a mini grant program where we offer faculty $500 to review OER and an additional 1,000 to incorporate OER into their courses and one of the things we're looking to do starting probably in the spring is building instead of having just a mini grant program we're looking to develop a kind of OER faculty fellows program that's a community of practice where we have workshops that we offer faculty and then they can get together and and and discuss OER and I'm just wondering if there are any resources out there about how to build a OER faculty fellows program or community of practice I think that might be a question for Cheryl Cheryl you did mention some maybe you had some resources that can help people build a faculty fellows or community learning community on campus yeah so I think our our learning community could function as a faculty fellows program we broadened it beyond faculty to include instructional designers and program managers and other folks but take a look in that google drive folder and I'll put the link in the chat again there yeah all kinds of resources that you can adapt there I know that Amy Huffer in open Oregon has also created materials for faculty development so let me see if I can find the link to to her resources and I'll put those in the chat as well thank you excellent thank you Cheryl and I know Cheryl also asked a question in the chat and I just want to make sure to bring it up and she was asking all of you attendees are there any topics for professional development that you're seeking some specific topics that maybe you have needs for on your campus go ahead and throw them in here and and maybe we can connect to you connect you to a resource I had a question for Shana I was wondering um you know this is like a really basic question but maybe I don't know maybe it will be helpful the idea is the question is like why do people need to know so much about copyright like I mean people in open education why do they and who who's coming to these classes like who who do you find gets you know gets stuff out of it I know you talked about the different kinds of certificates directed at different groups but but maybe you could give us a little bit more insight into like why why we should why we should go further to understand that stuff yeah I think it's a really good question um so this sort of stuff is relevant to pretty much anybody who works in education and I've been in education for a long time at all levels I started off in high schools and middle schools and then I was a public librarian teaching mostly adults in the community now I'm back in higher ed um but there's this uh you know as most of you folks here know because you're in the OER community and you're sort of steeped in this sharing culture but education in general has a lot of this sharing culture where you'll make an artifact and share it with the other teachers at your institution and now that we have the internet you're able to share it with teachers beyond your institution and in all sorts of places and this has raised a lot of questions about well if somebody just sends me a thing in my email what am I allowed to do with it you know I want to make sure that I'm being respectful not only of the the laws of whatever jurisdiction I live in you know nobody wants to get sued for copyright infringement that's no fun but um one of the really nice things about the cc licenses is that they're sort of opt-in right like not only does the license tell you what you're legally allowed to do um but it tells you ethically what the creator had in mind when they shared the thing so you know when you learn about the different licenses you learn about the different parts you know sometimes there are some licenses that say you can use my thing but not for commercial purposes so now you know okay the creator who made this thing wants it to be used out there in the world but they don't want me to make money off of it because it's their property and that's okay I can respect that and now I know exactly that that's what I need to do um some will say you can use my thing but you can't adapt it you have to use it as is I don't want other people to change my work you know I'm very dedicated to it now you know okay great this is the covenant that I enter into as a member of a sharing society um so I think it can be really helpful um you know even if you're not a person who wants to get super into the weeds of all the legal language and things you know you're out there looking online for lesson plans or for teaching guides or for textbooks and other resources you can use in your class and you just start to see all these logos and all these symbols and you don't know what they mean and you google them and you're like okay well this one says CC by and this one says CC by NC and this one says CC by SA and what what is that can I use it or not that's all I want to know and so a lot of these courses are really helpful um and sort of being able to to define that space a little more clearly and to kind of spell out okay yes you can you know here here is the situation in which you can and can't use the thing and I see some good comments in the chat too yeah that's great I I think and I think Judith's comment in the chat about you know how in fact I mean I guess in principle you know I think we can agree that that education really should be a sharing practice and yet in fact it seems that so much of academia is is really about not sharing and so I think it's uh you know maybe that's uh maybe this learning about these sorts of things can also uh help us shift the culture of education that would be really cool yeah and I think some of that is a is a need for a culture shift and some of it too and and we go over this like in week one of the cc course for example some of this is due to the law sort of lagging behind the technology as it tends to do so we have the internet now it makes it a lot easier for me to share textbooks but even to share like video files and of course the teach act is like super antiquated and makes it really hard to teach online with video um and like why why is that we can do better um so some of this is just like open licenses I think you know when cc developed these 20 years ago or so a lot of it too had to do with sort of bridging that gap between what the technology allows and what the laws that are rooted in 17th century printing practices allow yeah and then when they get written they they get rewritten in ways that are not favorable to individuals but favorable to large corporations it seems yeah just to editorialize for a minute um so yeah I think these are great um Cheryl I wanted to ask you um what your experience of kind of the level of engagement that you're seeing on your campus um in terms of like what what you were talking about sort of building communities um around you know in OER engaging in self-directed learning do you see that kind of catching on at your campus and what do you think are the catalysts to get people around you kind of engaged in that type of process yeah that's a great question uh and one of the frustrations that I've had doing course material initiatives is is really lack of bandwidth there's so much more we could do if we didn't have our press books as kind of a self-directed program um so we've really had to find targeted ways to support faculty um and this learning community was really a nice way to allow faculty to meet each other and I ended up meeting a professor in the iSchool who has for the past two semesters done an open pedagogy project with her class in press books actually just right before this uh this webinar she sent me the link to the finished version um so I will show that in the chat it's it's a really cool uh humans are social media textbooks that has all kinds of student perspectives on social media um I don't know if I ever would have connected with this professor if it hadn't been for setting up this learning community uh so yeah I I try to be involved in various campus groups like faculty governments and our student affairs policy committee and instructional design groups um campus technology groups just to meet various people from across campus um to build those networks um yeah there there are lots of different ways to do it but scalability is always the challenge that's great great to hear um your experiences there I wanted to um shout out that Laura Cummins in the chat was asking about um doing some open pedagogy I would say broadly open pedagogy types of assignments in her Spanish language class um and then Jessica I think is replying to that and provided a great resource for open pedagogy called the open pedagogy notebook um which has uh is basically a crowdsourced um sort of collection of different uh strategies uh lesson plans practices for engaging students you might find something there um Laura and um or if anybody else has something specific to Spanish language I think uh that's a really interesting thing um the one thing I would say as someone who tries to do a little bit of open pedagogy in my class is is that the big thing is the big thing the biggest thing for me is to try to think of an assignment that gets the students to think about creating something that is for their peers or for the public rather than creating something that's simply for me to review their work and I think that's the big shift um and then once you make that shift um I think uh sort of developing coming up with ideas is is a little easier a great power um response that um yeah she's gonna she's gonna look into uh some Spanish librarians in the European network and then get back to us so that's great and again um just to to note you know that CCC OER has a very active listserv and you can uh this is the kind of thing that you we frequently see sharing and questions about in the listserv and so you know if we have you post back information about that in the listserv that would also be really helpful great lots of resources coming in thanks Cheryl Nathan but before we go I just wanted to put in a plug for the Spark Open Education Leadership Program that's another professional development um it's I am just completing mine uh I've been in it it's a year-long program there's a open call applications are due by the end of the month for the next cohort uh and it previously had been only librarians but last year they opened it up to non librarians and uh it is a great I've really enjoyed it I've learned a lot about um open education and we've had some really great discussions about what it means to be open and especially related to equity so I I would just like to encourage anybody who's interested in that to check it out that's outstanding thanks and thanks for sharing the link I think we doubled up on each other there but that's all right and someone mentioned um I think Paolo mentioned earlier that she would just love to have a um a copy of the chat and so someone else mentioned that you are able to download a copy of the chat just by going to the bottom of the chat there and there are three dots if you click on that and say uh save chat you should be able to save a version of the chat as a text file to your machine uh I hope that's not just something that's available to me as a co-host um and um but uh hopefully that is available to everyone hi everyone it's Paola here sorry to interrupt no that's great thank you Nat thank you Natana it's just that uh if you if you didn't have the chance to enter uh to the chat since the beginning or if you lost the connection for any kind of reason which happened to me you can't have the whole chat that's why I was asking okay great point great point and I think that's that could be something we can do um I'll definitely save a copy and we can uh I'm I don't think it would be a problem to share it uh to the um to archive it with the slides and the recording and everything seems like you know saying that that she can we can do that so do we have one last question um about six minutes left or any final comments or thoughts from our panelists okay well um I just want to thank so much I want to thank our panelists you all were really incredible um so much energy and resources that are being shared here hopefully this will inspire you all who have attended and and provide you with the kinds of things you need to take the next step also want to say apologize to Shana and Cheryl for butchering your last names I shouldn't do that and it's bad moderator practices so uh I apologize so I want to end just by um letting you know about events that are upcoming um with CCC OER so we are finishing out our spring webinar series um this is uh our May 12th webinar we have the last one on June 9th is about making classrooms equitable and anti-racist so obviously a very important and timely topic um so I hope you can join us for June 9th um and please as I've mentioned stay in the loop keep uh the community going um definitely come to go to the website so you get involved and learn more if you go into the learn more tab that's where you find uh recordings and information about our webinars get join our community email listserv um and then we've been running a um uh equity diversity and inclusion series of blog posts so I encourage you to read those student impact stories about how OER is expanding access and and and reaching out to the students that need it most um if you have any further questions please reach out to our um director Unedeli uh her assistant Liziata our our president's Lisa Young or Sue Tassion um I think that is it um so thank you all so much for for being here and enjoy the rest of your day