 It's time for the Lorne Jean Chronoscope, a television journal of the important issues of the hour, brought to you every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. A presentation of the Lorne Jean Witnor Watch Company, maker of Lorne Jean, the world's most honored watch, and Witnor, distinguished companion to the world-honored Lorne Jean. Good evening, this is Frank Knight. May I introduce our co-editors for this edition of the Lorne Jean Chronoscope? Mr. William Bradford Huey, author and analyst, and Mr. Hardy Burt, noted author and correspondent. Our distinguished guest for this evening is the Honorable Alexis Kirou, permanent delegate from Greece to the United Nations. Mr. Ambassador, our viewers, of course, recall that it was your nation that suffered the first effort at communist penetration after the Second World War. They also recall that under the Truman Doctrine, our nation lent considerable help to your people in fighting off this communist effort. Now, sir, as the first question, did that joint effort of ours, did it pay off? Has it been completely successful? Of course. It has been perhaps the greatest success now, until now, gained over the communism. Our joint effort at repelling the communist effort to take over Greece, you would call that the greatest success over the communism since the end of the Second War. Has that ain't been largely in military supplies or outright financial aid, Mr. Ambassador? It started by being largely military supply, then it turned off to the economic side, but after Korea, it came back again to the military. Are your borders relatively free of fighting now? Is there any fighting going on at all on your borders? No, there's no fighting at all. You know, Mr. Ambassador, there are great many countries in Europe that receive financial aid and military help from us, and they reported not to appreciate it too much so far as the public is concerned. Is that true in Greece? Do you think they understand the scope of our aid? The Greeks are extremely grateful to the United States. Are they friendly to the United States? Well, sir, now that there's no fighting on your borders and that the external threat of communism has been repelled, is domestic communism a problem in Greece today? Well, there is. This domestic communist problem is much smaller in Greece than in other countries in Europe. What percentage of your people are communists today? I think not more than 10 to 11 percent. How was Stalin's death regarded by the public in Greece? Did they see a threat before coming out of it? Well, I think that most of them saw in the death of Stalin the way of a powerful figure that they had... Did it make them optimistic or pessimistic? Rather optimistic. I don't know if that is a perfect guessing. One of the things that our people now regard as rather hopeful, sir, has been the agreement recently signed between your country and Turkey and Yugoslavia, this tripartite pact. Now, sir, can you tell our viewers exactly what the significance of that pact is in your opinion? Well, to put it in a very large line, I think that the significance, the primordial significance of this pact is that the frontier of the free world now is the Daniel. You think that our frontier against Russia is now the Daniel? If any one of these countries were attacked, you have Greece, Turkey and Yugoslavia in this pact. If any one of these countries were attacked, say, by Russia, would the other two countries be obligated to come to the defense of those countries? Well, that is the sense of the pact. And our military staffs are working out the details. Our people recall that Marshall Tito was a very controversial figure in the United States. And of course, we remember that during your war, when you were being attacked, that Yugoslavia was sort of the privileged sanctuary where the communists hid. And now, you've made an ally of Tito. That brings up this question. Do you regard Tito as a dependable ally now against Soviet Russia? Yes, 100% dependable. Do you think there's any chance of him swinging back to the Soviets? No, I don't think he wants to do that. But even if he wanted to do that, I don't think that he could do that. Do you think he would last very long? Could you venture an opinion, since Marshall Tito is now paying a state visit in London, could you venture an opinion as to what the principal purpose of his visit is? Well, you must also get that Tito was in excellent relations with the Labour government on the one hand. And then on the importance the British authorities are touching on bringing about a reconciliation between Tito on the one hand and Italy on the other. And settling the Trieste dispute. Yes, I think that's the principal aim of this visit. Well, sir, I believe that, of course, you've been in the United Nations since 1946. And I believe your principal concern there now, or one of your principal concerns, is over the several thousand Greek soldiers who are still being held prisoner in Russia. Now, how did Russia get these prisoners, sir? Not only in Russia, I know the coming from this country. During the guerrilla warfare in Greece, the guerrillas attacked systematically outlying the frontier post. And the military personnel manning this frontier post were transferred to the frontier north of Greece. Where were they transferred? At the beginning, in Albania and Bulgaria. But from there they were transported, some of them are still, of course. So they were, in effect, kidnapped from Greece by parties that came over and captured them. And now they are in different concentration camps throughout the whole coming from this country? Well, have you had any success in your efforts to get the Russians to return these prisoners? Not for the time being, but I hope that on the long run this resolution will be taken some days ago by the political committee, which will be ratified tomorrow. Do the Russians deny that these prisoners are there, by the way? Well, that's the tragic thing. They didn't deny that these last meetings in the political committee. When I put out some figures, the Russian delegates, Mr. Zarubin, denied the figures, by that way implying indirectly that they were. They were actually there, so it doesn't make any sense. I told them and a lot of fellow colleagues of the delegates told them that, well, it's the question is not if there are 3,000 or 2,000 or even two. Let's the Red Cross International Committee go there and ask them if they want, yes or no, to come back. Now, Mr. Ambassador, you are a very important member of the United Nations, so this is the reason I ask you this question. There have been reports, which may be rumors, that American prisoners of war from Korea are also in Soviet concentration camps. Have you heard any reports to this effect? Yes, I heard. I heard some reports. Of course, I couldn't say if they correspond to facts, but when I think that there are some Greek military personnel kidnapped and detained now in Tashkent in Uzbekistan, I wonder why they wouldn't do the same thing with American prisoners in Korea. Well, about Korea, sir, how many troops does Greece have in Korea now? When the request of the Security Council was made in 1950, we offered at once one brigade. But at that time, it was after the first successes and before the entrance into the play of the so-called volunteer from China, the Unified Command was General MacArthur at that time. Thank you very gracefully, the Greek government at that time, but I thought that one battalion would be enough. So you have one battalion, about 1200 men, and I believe they've engaged in a great deal of fighting and suffered considerable casualties. Yes, you must have something around 450. Well, as the nation that fought off the communists and since you have been involved in the Korean War from the beginning with us, do you have any solution to recommend to our viewers as to how we have to carry on in Korea? To carry on, to be patient, to be firm, and to be hopeful. Do you think we should have a more aggressive policy as has been recommended? As far as Korea... Aggressive, perhaps spiritually. I wouldn't say that aggressiveness always pays. But if we are always mindful of our aims, and if we don't forget that their worries on the other side are much bigger than ours, then I'm quite sure that... They have something to worry about too, then. Oh yes, there are, we have. I believe they're almost a million Americans, almost one million Americans of Greek origin in this country. I'm sure that they would like to hear from you some expression as to living conditions in Greece now. We know that there was once a great deal of suffering, starvation. Are your people getting enough to eat now? Oh yes, the conditions improves every day more and more. You have recovered from most of the devastation that the Germans brought there? The Germans, the Italians of that time, and the guerillas. Well sir, as a final question, as far as the Middle East is concerned, do you think that there can be an expansion of this tripartite agreement to take in other nations in the Middle East so that we can erect something really strong in the Middle East against Soviet aggression? Well, we have in this tripartite pact a clause asking the neighboring countries to come in. And you think that there's a pretty good chance of getting some of them in? That depends from Moscow and that depends from the population there. But I think that we had something, you had something else in mind. You thought of perhaps of this Middle East pact. Yes, you think. Well sir, I believe that our time is about up and so thank you very much for being with us this evening. The opinions that you've heard our speakers express tonight have been entirely their own. The editorial board for this edition of the Laun Jean Chronoscope was Mr. William Bradford Huey and Mr. Hardy Burt. Our distinguished guest was the Honorable Alexis Kirou, permanent delegate from Greece to the United Nations. The pleasure of giving a Laun Jean watch is surpassed only by the pride that comes from receiving one. For owning a Laun Jean watch is like owning a thoroughbred, a champion, the best in its class. It's a fact that only Laun Jean, among the world's finest watches, has won so many honors for elegance, excellence and accuracy in international competition at world fairs, at the great government observatories, and in fields of precise timing. 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