 Hi, today we are comparing Thunar and Dolphin and before we get into that you might ask why are like known the enemies that we have to defeat and the answer is no. I don't think that we should consider any open source project as enemies. However, I do think that a bit of healthy competition is healthy and the point is not to like shame Thunar or Dolphin for being bad but to understand a bit how other file managers do think and also in Magnum video I say that in my opinion some default apps from GNOME are less valuable compared to the KD ones and I wanted to actually quantify why and how to actually improve that in my personal opinion of course. People can disagree and of course I've always used Dolphin so that was going to be super biased so I try to do something that is do not base myself on the criteria that I think are important but actually ask my Twitter followers that are just as biased as me I guess but probably less biased because maybe there's somebody not using Dolphin so what I did is asked on my Twitter what makes a file manager a good file manager I got a lot of interesting answers I copy pasted what I thought were the most actually the one that I could use to compare Thunar and Dolphin so for each one I'm going to give one point to the file manager that actually fits the criteria in the tweet best so they both start with zero points in the home directory sorry I forgot that if I do a file here it also appears on the other way Thunar zero points and here new folder Dolphin zero points and let's see who gets many I have no clue whatsoever so first one draw view tabs keyboard navigation good search interface customization easy access to network resources so let's see which one fits most of the criteria as far as draw view goes we've got split view here and on Thunar as far as I know by default out of the box there is no draw view I am checking all of the options just for sure but I'm pretty sure there's nothing like that tabs both of this file manager have tabs keyboard navigation let's try to navigate a bit can I go to the sidebar on Thunar let's see okay here I have the options here I have the sidebar like this then goals and I open subfolders what about Dolphin I can go between folders let's try to go to the sidebar okay so I'm selecting options at the top now I should be where am I okay I'm in the sidebar and I can like go back to folders and I can like autotovari ff come on f so they both have pretty good keyboard navigation as far as I'm concerned let's close these tabs good search let's try to search something let's try a hard file to find let's go if you're going to caddy where we go user sure okay let's try to find this file which is pretty hidden as far as files go sorry I lost it this file it's in caddy build queen doc queen decoration cmake files doc queen decoration index cake and progress.cmake let's search for I don't know progress.make and see what we get in both there's multiple of that but let's see so let's start from home and search here for progress.cmake and that's nothing let's try here progress.cmake sorry typo cmake let's see what happens loading file name progress.cname right now there's nothing from both of them let's try an easier one like I don't know this is all caddy build stuff so in my projects folder I have this ultimate ttt and inside of it there is like I don't know notation.rs this file should be easier so let's try notation.rs notation.rs in here notation.rs okay tuner found it let's see if dolphin finds it as well okay so found on both as far as I'm concerned search is drone what else interface customization dolphin like if I have to explain this one you can actually customize all of the panels and also add new ones you can have the terminal and also folders there should be a preview somewhere I don't see it right now but in here you can like hit hide the sidebar and that's about it so interface customization goes to dolphin so has a hold this point easy access to network resources okay for enough let's see if we can set up some ad network okay I don't actually have a network folder to set up right now for testing so for now this point with dual views and more interface customization goes to dolphin so one point to dolphin next one being a file manager and not as with army knife this one goes to tuner no question asked obviously I mean dolphin is totally as with army knife like it has so much stuff inside of it it opens in a blink of a high loads big directories quickly copying moving is easy okay so opening as far as opening goes let's compare the two let's open a new instance of files and at is very fast and dolphin is is not how you open a new dolphin instance to close this one do this I don't know I don't know how much of a comparison this is I should probably but I didn't see much to be honest I think that both open like seriously low times loads big directory quickly I try to like find a very big directory but couldn't quite find a one that's big enough to actually test stuff copying moving is easy and I mean to be honest it's really easy and in here it even asks you what you want to do in here I guess it tries to earnings and move it only document and that's it like to be honest this is completely wrong okay this one the name dolphin so for this one Twitter point goes to dolphin just because of the name I guess the name is an important aspect of don't worry there's another person that says the opposite later on that's why I just kept the two tweets I thought that was funny one with Miller column view and I think I can simply say that neither of this in here you've got in here you've got just these two views in here you've got three but not the Miller so neither in here nobody gets the point the option to open as root without needing to add an extension service menu okay so let's try this in dolphin in theory this should be implemented in dolphin you should be able to edit files in owned by root and the issue is that I actually never managed to make this work on my dolphin and we are trying out my dolphin so I know del should still be in root let's try to create a file and that worked way too easily for this to be let's just open create a new I cannot create a new thing okay and could not enter folder root I think that yeah I just cannot do anything with the root and related stuff so in theory it should be possible it should be but I haven't found see it's just like access denied I tried in something that made actually sense so nope here and what about here or the issue is how do I even get to like here so let's try to go into user share plasma desktop theme and try to create a I don't know a new folder as an example nope maybe I don't know move a file nope okay so I cannot edit either maybe you can launch tuner as a pseudo it is 21 minutes in the recording that I realized that of course gnome's file manager isn't called tuner it's called nautilus like please forgive me for this mistake and now I'll just go on and I leave this part where I screwed up to be like honest and because also 20 minutes of recording and please forgive me and every time I said tuner meant nautilus let's get back to the terminal so nautilus is called nautilus let's try pseudo nautilus this seemed to work with some warnings nothing weird so let's go into the file system let's go into share and plasma and then create a new folder look oh well it did that without even thinking okay so you can launch tuner opening it as nautilus nautilus you can launch nautilus opening it as truth without any extension in theory also dolphin but actually no on my computer so for now for now and let's lose this points goes four to nautilus so two and two it's a tie next one have a page up button simple one so we are inside of cake as an example and we want to go a page up and as far as I see neither has a page up button this one is go back and this one is also go back and go back is not actually page up and you can actually test that so we switch to downloads in both of them and if we go back cake and cake which is not page up however in dolphin you can actually add a up button there is an up button but it's like not shown by default maybe here nope so it's not shown by default so it doesn't count neither gets the point here we get tags searchability we try this stable copy paste stable response even hundred every workload this one I'm not going to be able to test this but tags I am so let's try out tags let's try to add a tag to a file first of all documents no let's test dot pdf let's add a tag and it's probably inside of I know here on the right bar sidebar tags add hello okay so now there is the hello tag and if I click on it there's an error amazing let's try this one so we've got test dot pdf blah blah blah there is a star option but we want tags and as far as I see it there's no such thing yep no such thing so dolphin kind of has tags I guess they just don't work very well I guess as far as stable copy goes stable copy and paste I think the point here goes to neither of the two sorry but the tag system just doesn't work here and I don't know why in theory tags should appear on the left sidebar being able to recall a location of a file that your brain cannot based on some detail like metadata so let's open some okay so I have created this test dot mp3 and if we go here uh audio artist oh come on now it actually worked as you can see here we've got in the metadata that the artist and album is Nikolov as well as well as the title and the year is 2050 so let's try to see if we can actually search for Nikolov and or 2050 and find this file somehow I don't know how metadata search is implemented so if you're going to search we've got just this when now we can actually select based on some metadata that is like when it was edited or created last modified and last used nice we can also select select by type so we actually want let's use this one we want an audio where is audio music speaking okay and Nikolov is the author let's see if the magic magic search does something meanwhile here in dolphin's world let's go I mean dolphin cannot even for some reason actually display the fact that the author is Nikolov but that let's search there's more search tool which is kfind which is cheating but there should what search for in Nikolov okay that was weird in theory find name files there was a button to search like more stuff but I don't find it so let's search for Nikolov and nope this stuff is completely interestingly enough though we do actually get a Kazaborgese if we search for Nikolov Kazaborgese is the audio file that generated the test one so probably inside of here we have Nikolov which is the author saved interesting but it's not the so doesn't count kfind can you help us I wonder property is nothing okay so that's it I'm not able to easily find based on author and I think author like is the most significant example of metadata tabs and again tabs and both of them have tabs so no one wins here I love love how makintosh has the tag feature and we can see that we saw that tags didn't quite work now we have a big folder tree kd does have folder tree you can see it here so this one goes to dolphin various sorting methods let's just make see how many sorting methods we have on both systems and count them so here sort by so in Nautilus we have alphabetical modified size and type for here we have name size modified created access type rating tags comment title word count line count date photographed artist general album aspect ratio path deletion time link destination our owner dolphin wins this one like hence I didn't even know that we had that minute thumbnail view so let's go into side of pictures and I do see thumbnails here and I do see thumbnails here let this be so it's a win for both quick and reliable search function we already covered that collapsible file grouping I don't know what that means maybe in the folder tree you do have collapsible file grouping otherwise nope so since we already did for the three year let's just count this thing as a whole to dolphin whoops so this one is one point to dolphin let's go give it to where is it dolphin three points so dolphin gets a hat it has to be called tuner okay so now we again we got three points to dolphin and three points to Nautilus it has to be called tuner this is what confused me Nautilus this is what confused me okay this is I can actually blame this person because he said tuner and I thought yes the non file manager but no it's called Nautilus but he said tuner so I got confused so I can blame him I might go tweet the guy now being able to color folders and put emblems on file icons let's try this out dolphin you can follow folders properties you click on the folder you select your favorite color there is some with icons there should I hear folder blue as an example so you can color folders but also emblems on files let's try this out editor um properties no I don't see any way to actually add anything so no emblems in here let's try folder so we've got open cut move move the threshold compress open terminal properties so we can click on the icon and we have to select acoustic icon from the file system no and I see no option to change the color in other ways so this point I'd say is to dolphin because you can actually change colors of the folders so dolphin four points lastly slash foo bringing me to the exact file and need which names contains foo so let's try this it's slash and the name so let's try it with I don't know pxl this one slash and filter appears on the bottom picks pxl and here's the file in here slash pxl and that doesn't bring up anything because it actually searches for this lash as well I mean I guess using the slash to pop up the filter is something that dolphin does but I don't think that in here you can just type like pxl and that's it I do think however that it's slightly confusing to see all of the pxls and in order to know if it's from your current folder you have to look at it but I'm not going to consider this as an entire point for dolphin that would be unfair so that's it so at the end we have three points for nautilus and four points for dolphin and we also have an entire video where I accidentally call nautilus tunar and this is going to haunt me for I don't know years please don't make too much fun of me in the comments if you see somebody in the comments pointing this out I don't know act if I actually never did the mistake the first place just say like I don't know no what do you mean you got the name right just just type it in the comments thanks for 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