 sa Pilipinas at sa ibad ibang panig ng mundo. Ito po ang Usapang KP, Kalayaan sa Pamantasan Episode 5. Ang ating pungtapping ngayon at tututukan yung mga rocket science people na po, mga CNTP ko at Pantas, Hanep. Ako po si Malumangahas at ito ang inyong Usapang KP, special po ang ating co-moderator ngayon. Si Dr. Fidel R. Nemenso, Chancellor ng UP Dileman. Introduce ko lang po muna ng kontek. Delawang araw makalipas, March 2 ay nanombra siya bilang Chancellor ng UP Dileman. So mag, first, your anniversary po niya ngayon as the 11th Chancellor of UP Dileman. Mathematician and professor, ang areas of expertise niya. Okay, watch out po. Number theory, elliptic curves and coding theory. Siya po ay bi-bachelors degree in mathematics from UP, masters and doctors of science degrees from Sophia University in Tokyo, Japan. Isko po natunay, mayroong distinguished line age. Siya po ang anak ni Dr. Francisco Nemenso Jr. Ating Presidente ng UP system at nimi Princess Nemenso, a widely respected and gracious feminist and activist, beautiful inside out. Before his appointment as Chancellor, Fidel served as Vice Chancellor for Research and Development of UP Dileman, and is the convener of the Center for Integrative Development Studies Data Science for Public Policy Program. Nag-idin po siyang asociate din for academic affairs ng UP College of Sciences and Headed, its science and society program. Siya po ang chairperson ng Mathematics Division, ng National Research Council of the Philippines at naging membro ng Governing Board ng NRCP ng 2019. Nag-iring Presidente ng South East Asia Mathematical Association and the Mathematical Society of the Philippines. Marami po ang awards na to yung ating co-moderator, One UP Professorial Chair Awards and International Publication Awards from the UP system, Achievement Award in Mathematics from the NRCP in 2013, and Gawad Chancellor para sa pinakamahusa ilaguro ng UP Dileman ng 2005. Matatandaan nyo po si Fidel, bilang student leader ng Marcos Marchello period, at Nabariel, at nagaroon ng parang injury sa likod niya dahil tumaguspo yung bala. Ito po yung Welcome Rotonda Rally Shooting sa September 27, 1994. Montyk na daw siyang bawian ng buhay kung di nga lang siya ay isang atleta at runner at may healthy lifestyle. He does not only run, he also sings. Hindi siguro alam ng lahat ng membro ng groupong patatap. Si Dr. Fidel Arnamenso, welcome Fidel. Magandang hapon, malo magandang hapon sa lahat. Announce ko muna ang special webinar series na ito on academic freedom. Ay mahalin yung mapanood via live streaming sa YouTube, sa TV UP channel, as well as the TV UP Facebook page. All right. At naglalive streaming din po yung sa Mas Alumni Association Facebook and Twitter pages. Ngayon, acknowledge po natin yung mga organizers, yung mga recruiter, nito ang ating mga speakers ngayon ng Fidel. Ang mga recruiter po at organizers nito ng webinar, mga sumusanod. University of the Philippine System. Ang Office of the Vice President for Public Affairs, si Dean Nanny Purnia. Ang Office of Alumni Relations si Ms. Rika Abad. Ang UP Information Technology Development Center si Lanawel. Ang TV UP kasama si Director Gigi Alfonso. Ang UP Office of Media Affairs si Mr. Wendell Kapili. Ang UP Alumni Freedom Project yung mga na red tag po yun. At ang UP sa Masa Alumni Association si Lasusan Villanueva. All right. Pidel, set the topic in context, medyo mahirap yata maarok itong community na ito, your kind of people. On a recently malo na, grave yung usapan tungkol sa academic freedom. Lalo-lalo na dahil nung na-abligate yung UPD in the agreement. We talk about the freedom to think and speak out as essential to our role as a national university. At ang three-fold mandate ng UP na teaching research and extension. But how academic freedom is understood, appreciated and exercised may differ across the disciplines. Today we look at our university and academic freedom from the perspective of science and technology. Malo, I belong to this community, the science and technology community. At ito, we talk about scientific discovery, we talk about innovation and applications of science to solving our nation's problems. Pero, bihila kami magkaroon ng opportunity to reflect on the culture of the university and academic freedom. And how these enhance our work as scientists, engineers, statisticians, planners. Ang sabi ni Professor Emeritus Gisela Concepcion, unang webinar sa status na ito. Ang sabi niya, academic freedom is the freedom to pursue knowledge without boundaries in an unencumbered and enabling environment. This environment, according to College of Science Dean Ganitapang, is an environment that is conducive to speculation, experimentation and creation. So ayan, kaya excited akong maninig atin mga panelists. Gusto akong maninig, siguro kayo din kung ano nga ba ang ginagawa nila bilang mga scientists, engineers. At kung bakit mahalaga ang academic freedom sa kanilang mga gawain? So Sige Fidel, i-shout-out ko lang, may mga participants tayo galing Vancouver, Canada. Tiblao, Anfique, Ilo Ilo City, Teresa Rizal, and of course Metro Manila. At mami may guest tayo galing sa Estados Unidos na magsasalita din. Ang ating unang speaker sa panahon ng COVID-19 pandemic at taka haluhalong kalamidad, manmade or natural disasters, ang pangala ni Dr. Alfredo Mahar Francisco A. Lagmai Ekadikit Palagay. Siya po ang director ng UP National Operational Assessment of Hazards o UP Project Nawa. At executive director ng UP Resilience Institute. Geology si Dr. Lagmai at marami siyang karanasan din sa pagbantay, pag-visita, pag-monitor, pag-suri kung yan man e-bulkan o bahak at kung ano ano pang sakuna. Meron siyang master's degree in geology from UP Dileman at my doctorate in geology from the University of Cambridge. Nagisang visiting scientist sa University of Mexico and on his return to UP, eto muto sa mga bulkan at mga implicasyon ito sa human activities. Ang si Dr. Lagmai Ekadikit marami rin na publish ng mga articulo at mga reports at bahagi siya ng Philippine panel na nagsalita sa United Nations Commission ng the law of the sea on our claim to Benham Rise. Marami na siyang awards outside ng Filipino for geology and earth science wikipinoy in 2014 at radio, TV, personality. Nagisang co-host ng red alert program sa DCMM kasama nonsang mga telepaganda at mga telepaganda at mga telepaganda ng red alert program sa DCMM kasama nonsi Atom Araulio at Sid Ted Esguera at marami na rin iba pa pang award from Hildegard Award, Communication Management Award at naging consultant. In katulad ni Fidel mga kaibigan si Dr. Lagmai po ay anak din ng isang natatanging isko si Alfredo Lagmai, National Scientist for Experimental Psychology at Professor Emeritus ng Psychology Department ang UP Dileman. Dr. Lagmai, magandang araw po, you have 10 minutes. Talk to us about calamities and disasters. Magandang, magandang hapon malo. Magandang hapon Chancellor Fidel. Of course, putakal ko naka yung mga kakilala. At 10 minutes ang binigay sakin na lang. Kung hong magsasalitaan na lang ako tungkol doon sa Pananao siya ay nag-research-research din ako. Saka may rin din akong alam tungkol sa academic freedom dahil ang aking tatay ay bahagi din ang mga naglaban sa academic freedom as early as in the 1950s where there were attacks on the State University. Pero hindi ito tungkol doon sa anti-terror, hindi ito tungkol doon sa ating agreement, yung abrogation ng agreement. Pero hindi ibang mga bagay. Kasi ang attacks on academic freedom may take many forms. Hindi lang itot about the military. So, habahagi ko lang kung ano yung Pananao pilang isang scientist dito sa College of Science ng University of the Philippines. Sa aking pagkakainpindi, ang University of the Philippines ay may mission bilang State University. And we have these three mandates. At isa sa mga pinakamalaking haligi para magampanan itong mission na ito ay yung tinatawag na academic freedom. Without it, baka mahirapan tayong isulong itong or magampanan itong mission o mandato natin dito sa University of the Philippines. So, saan ba nagsimula itong salitang academic freedom na ito? Yung mga universities doon, mayano silang mga kanya-kanya, but really it was enshrined na codify lang itong academic freedom na ito. Noong panahon ng educational reforms ng William Humboldt na merong dalawang napaka-importanting konsep ko na isinulong niya. In German, it's called as the Lehr Freihheit, which means freedom to teach, at saka yung Learn Freihheit, which means freedom to learn. These two concepts are collectively known as academic Freihheit or academic freedom. And they became popular in America eventually. Maraming mga nakakita nito na how it worked for Europe. And when it was brought to the US, who at that time, many people perceived them yung mga educational institutions as training institutions instead of universities with a commitment to advanced knowledge. Hindi katulat ko sa mga German universities who were at that time considered as the light of the world. So, yung academic freedom is also accompanied by a very important principle called as institutional autonomy. Para yung mga scholar to be able to generate and advance knowledge, there must be freedom of the mind. Nung Germany, sa Germany nung pano na magkakaruna ng gera, si Hitler dinikler niya na yung universal education na nangyayahari doon, nung observahan doon, gina gamit doon, is the most corroding according to him and this integrating poison. So, pinalita niya yung ministro ng Germany nung 1939, di pala pinalita niya, but by 1939, nearly half of German faculty members were already Nazis. It was declared that the future basis for all studies in Germany, German universities would be the Nazi way. Totod din naman na alam natin pag sinabing German naka-advanced din ng knowledge in a certain way, but it only advances in a singular way, isa lang, and that was the Nazi way. Alam naman natin kung ano yung mga kumbakit magkaruna nang gera, meron mga tanggol ng mga kalapatan ng mga tao and many ideas that can truly advance universal knowledge and truth are immediately shut out kapag gagaloon yung classy ng sistema and alam din natin na ang university is of strategic importance to any vested group. It may be any group, may be a political group, you might think of it as a rightist group or a leftist group, a moderate one or a religious group, any group pag may vested interest, ang university is always of strategic importance. Those who seek to propagate a doctrine or promote and propagandize some costs must appropriate an instrument of education, to sabito ng tatay ko, which had already achieved a measure of full recognition and acceptance by the community they want to change and the university of the Philippines is such an instrument. So everybody must be able to freely express their ideas and thoughts without setbacks from any vested group dominating the university by either institutional control, whether in funding control or by force, which instills fear among scholars. So antawag dito sa mga ganyong classy mga galaw they are considered as attacks on academic freedom which is the freedom to teach and freedom to learn. A commitment natin, ito yung commitment natin to advance knowledge. So we have learned a lot from the history of science as well. Over the centuries, marami tayong alam na mga pinorosahan mga scientists and they have been silenced and even persecuted yung mga scientists repeatedly by those who entrench the status quo. Ang isang example siguro dito ay pwede natin isipin. Pinakamadali, everybody knows Galileo Galile. Convicted in 1633 for publishing evidence in support of the Copernican Fury na yung earth revolves around the sun because during that time, ang paniniwala, ang center of the youth leaders, center lang lahat ay earth and he was suspected of heresy for pushing this and suffered a lot from the inquisition. Mayanong pang isang example, for example si Henry Oldenburg, yung tata yung founder ng Royal Society, ang ginawa niya was because he was seeking for a lot of high quality scientific papers inano siya. Magsulat siya na magsulat, dami niya mga communications through mail, snail mail, sa mga iba-tibang scientists all over Europe and he was suspected as a spy and hinoli siya and he was held in the Tower of London for months. Mayanong pang isang si Gerard Domas, yung German pathologist and bacteriologist who won the Nobel Prize for discovering the Sulfo, ang mapanganin ito, Sulfonamide parang anti-biotic ito, yung sinakauna. Nanalo siya ng Nobel Prize dito and he was arrested by the Gestapo for his critical views against Hitler. Isapasiguro na probably many people can relate to Albert Einstein. Yung kanya mga passive political views, tanang mirecent yan ng society ng Germany during that time and because of his views, pinanggalan siya ng title, pinanggalan siya ng post sa Prussian Academy of Sciences his property was seized all of his books were burned. So many professors in the past during their time fought for academic freedom and as a university professor who seeks to advance knowledge and truth through science, duty ko rin like my predecessors, like my parents na to protect academic freedom. Hindi lang ito single view na it's about the military. It can be any form of attack as they did in their time. And otherwise, pag hindi nating ganoin ito as history tells us, the University of the Philippines which is the National University would fail in its mission to generate knowledge and also tasks to engage the public. If we are not allowed that if we are covering in fear if there is no academic freedom we would fail our commitment. It's up to bang ten minutes. Maluh. Malamat po. Okay Pidel, ang galing na manon, mulabul kaan, punta tayo ngayon sa Dagat. Mulabul kaan ng dagat. Ang ating sunod panelist ay ang director ng U.P. Marin Institute Science isya siyang professor of oceanography na may Ph.D. mula sa University of South Carolina. She makes use of remote sensing and modeling to explore how ocean physics influence the distribution and state of ocean flora and fauna. So si Dr. Laura David buko sa paging director ng U.P. Marin Science Institute ay chair ng CHED Technical Committee in Marin Science. Kabilang din siya sa National Panel of Technical Experts of the Climate Change Commission isang Climate Fellow ng OML Center at board member ng tao Pilipinas a woman-led non-profit NGO of technical professionals who help guide housing issues in urban and rural areas. Internationally she is also a scientific steering committee member of the geo-blue planet and academy member of future earth coasts. Both of these organizations are committed to people-relevant ocean science. So ito si Dr. Laura David. Nga nangapon po sa lahat. Baka po magali dang aking lolot-lola pag hindi ko na mention na, ang linea ng U.P. going for generations. So lolot used to be the vice president for ACAD affairs. Siya po yung nagsimulanong unang GE Dr. Ten Matay ang gusto Ten Matay. Gaya nigan, isang batang U.P. silaw na gaya ni Maher. That's right. So salamat po sa pagpapoonlak ng yung hapon sa ganan lamang po ng karagatan like a lot of the other sciences sa folio, sa university. Ang maing science po kasi is an applied science. So marami kaming ginagami na iba-ibang discipline. Hindi lang within the sciences, kasama social sciences, sama economics, and so on. And as an applied science ang talagang drive ng aming research is service to society. So lahat nang ginagawa namin but eventually, ma-papkinabangan ng society. So we actually deal with we use and deal with two types of science in my point of view. We do survival science o yung science na direct siyong pinaglalaban. For example, marine biotechnology na humahanap ng mangamot para sa mga tao. And my own discipline uses a lot of remote sensing which is a technology developed during wartime. So yun yung ang Tintago survival science. The other one is inspired science which is science that develops a new way of thinking or looking at things. For example, yung science po nang systematics yung genetics nang ginagami namin. It makes you think of how you live what you are, what is your place in the world. Na level of thinking. So parayopo yun sometimes is inspired by conflict but a lot of times even in conflict it is surrounded by a bubble of support. Kailangan merong siyang suporta ng buong kultura, ng buong community in order for it to prosper. Pasi otherwise isipin nyo nalang po kong kukawa kayo na exam at kayo ay kutom, kayo ay takot lumabas ng bahay ang hirap kumuhan na isang exam ba ang hirap sumagot. So ganung din kami, ralo na kami kasi we go a lot outside go on field a lot a lot of our work tandems field laboratory and theory. So kung threatened yung nismong survival namin ako po, konyari as director hindi ko basta-basta palabasin ang aking mga tao para mag-field kung alam kong hindi sila safe. So ngayon na lang kong pandemia, for example. Typically po people live about four months of the year outside campus kasi they're doing field work but now we really restrict them because of the COVID so we take a lot of precautions. Pero yung precautions po na COVID medyo handa ka do ne PPE, social distancing, RT-PCR so meron tayo pero yung threat of security. Mahirap yun kasi hindi mo alam nismo kano yung kailangang mong paghandaan? Eh, madalas nga po buti nga ngayon meron na kami internet sa bar ko, saka Dati po, lalaot kami pagbalik namin iba na pala presidente ng Bili Pinas. Hindi namin alam kasi isang bo kami sa lalaot pagbalik namin tapos na in sa dos. So nakakat hindi rin po siya nakakapanatag loob. We go to very remote areas. Minsang nag-the dive kami pag akit namin, minakadutok na barin sa amin. Korpo punta kaming kalayaan sa pag-asa islands natin minaharas kami ng Chinese along the way na Chinese vessels. So these are real security threats. So ma-importanti po sa amin na kaakibat namin din ang security force ng Philippines para internally hindi kami takot. So we actively collaborate with Department of National Defense, Philippine Navy, Coast Guard, National Police. Every time we go out, we ask the permission of the LGU kahit na ilabesis na kami pangpanda don, pinapalam namin sa kanila lalaot kami, para abangan nila kami pagpalik. So we really have to work hand in hand with those people. And we really appreciate that collaboration. So medyo na bahala kami parang naiba yung tono at naiba pagtanaw nila sa UP dahil naramdaman namin yung pwede nga maging impact sa aminsensya. Lina kami basa-basa makakalabas. At kahit na lang di try sa loob ng campus, pwede nga may threat. Manami rin po kami dinagawa na manami rin po kami laboratorio, baka mapakamala kami gumagawa na siya bu. So marami poong layers of threat na in this na mag-concentrate namin sa paghanap ng solution sa mga problema na hinahalap ng punituna. Syempre, mauunom mo na yung kapakanan ng mga talong tauhan namin. And I think what we need to do is turn around the whole vision. Kasi there are threats external to the Philippines that we need each other in order to solve. There is the threat of climate change. Climate ano na siya. Prices na siya. So with a common enemy I think we have to band together all the institutions of the Philippines in order to actually study and prepare for the even greater impacts of climate change. That's one. The other one that nobody's mentioning is the threat of the decrease in fossil fuels. According to an international study mga 60 years nalang po wala na tayong fossil fuel. McHole tayo for another 100 years but wala na tayong fossil fuel. So ano gagawin natin for this? So we need to explore a lot of alternative sources of energy and a lot of those either na sa bundok, like your thermal or na sa karagatan like ocean energy both of which would need security otherwise any development there will also be threatened. So I think pag ito yung inilatag natin na common goal common enemy siya. So common goal of surviving this and actually thriving in this new environment I think mabubu rayong magiging trivial all the rest really talking about the survival of the Filipino as a culture and as a nation. Inalang po. Ang galing naman. Nakakatua ano mula sa mga volcanic disasters Fidel at COVID pandemic yung mga threats na external security threats. Very very important and the climate crisis. May nag-comment lang na deep marundo yata kayong tatlo. Ikaw Fidel, si Dr. Mahar Laura. Ito tinan natin mo kambaka deep marundin to. Anyway, ang susurud po nating speaker I see Dr. Lisa Grace S. Bresalis. Siya lang naman ang unang national statistician ng Filipinas at UP System Vice President for Finance. Si Dr. Lisa ay professor sa UP School of Statistics at naging studiante iska na iska bachelors, masters, doctoral degrees in statistics from UP Maraming naging studiante po ito yung iba yata pumasa yung iba hindi kaya tanda-tanda pa nila si Dr. Lisa. Bago naging national statistician si Dr. Lisa ay director ng graduate studies and dean ng UP School of Statistics at vice president for planning and finance ng UP System. At noon 2014-2019 siya nangapo ang naging unang statistician ng Filipinas nung pinagsama-sama yan hu mga statistical agencies ng ating gobierno at naging siyang civil registrar general of the Philippines founding director ng Philippines Statistics Authority yung po yung kabuan at director ng 2015 census of population of the Philippines. In 2018-2019 siya was president of the Philippines statistical association at naging membro ng International Statistical Institute the Worldwide Association of Statistics and the whole sectors pinag-a-aralan sa academia, sa gobierno at sa industria. Si Dr. Lisa Grace Bersales ang ating third speaker. Welcome, Dr. Lisa. Maraming salamat, Miss Malu. Chancey P. Bell. Ako po yung natutuan na napasama ako dito sa ating usapan tungkol sa KP Kaleaan sa pamantasan. Ay, mula po sa Vulcan papuntas sa Ocean. I think ako po ay nasa cloud kasi ang ating Datos sa cloud na po. At ako po dito din ay na ko marun na marun po ako kasi po yung aking nana yung mga kapatig ko ay mga anak ko ay UP po ang yung asawa ko UP din po. So proud na proud na iska po ako. Ako po ay may props sa aking ikikwento sa inyo tungkol sa aking reflection sa aking pagiging statistician in the context of academic freedom in the university. So ito po aking reflection na ito ay coming from my being a data scientist a data person in general and a statistician in particular. So nung hinibita po ako na magbigay na reflection na kaisipo ako. So nag-review ako. Tumatawa ako dun sa unang webinar before this na may run po tayo mga ibabing mga kasamahan na sinabi nila kung anong para sa kanila ang academic freedom at kasama nangapodongan si Chancey Tidell. So gusto-gusto ko po yung mga sinabi nilang lahat pero ang binasik po sa aking reflection as a data person and as a statistician is what Professor Emeritus Gisella Conception said which I believe kinot din kanina ni Chancey Tidell where Gisell said freedom and she basically defined academic freedom as freedom to pursue knowledge without boundaries in an unencumbered and enabling environment toward the overarching goal of serving the nation and humanity. Parang tulid din po ng sinabi kanina ni Dr. Laura na at saka sinabi ninyata ni Dr. Maharna yung Michelle talaga ng UP ay makapag-serve mag-bigay ng servicio sa ating mga kababayan sa sa data community and in particular sa statistics community pag magsama-sama po kami and we collaborate with other stakeholders other disciplines we find that this enabling environment of academic freedom makes us bloom makes us create knowledge that benefits our country and gusto ko ipakita sa inyo ano po ang mga resulta nito academic freedom sa aming commandad sa statistics isa lang po ang example ay bibigay ko meron po tayong Philippine journal the Philippine statistician which is Scopus Index at dito po usually nagsasubmit ng mga kanilang research papers yung mga statisticians data people with their collaborators na ko ang statistics po ay kameleon nga kasi science and technology siya pero miembro din po on statistics display ng social science council kasi nga hindi lang siya methods in science and technology napupunta din po siya sa mga nabibigyan ng servicio sa country from the social sciences makikita mo natin varied no resulta no academic freedom in enabling environment sa aming tumitingin na mga data both methodologies and data collection sumula sa mga survey consumer expectation survey impact nang impact ng basic education reform rapid assessment spatial temporal analytics marami po sila pero gusto ko ipakita po itong ginawa ko kasama yung mga kapa ako statisticians sa philippin statistics authority at ito po yung multidimensional approach to measuring poverty poverty in my experience as the national statistician was the one of the most controversial results that I would release kasi rami-reklamo bakit ganito lang ang poverty line pero ang napakadami po ng resulta nitoong academic freedom sa atin sa nakikita ko ngayon we have not recognized evidence-based empirical data-driven policies and decision-making and this is really the area of data and statistics so I myself as a researcher I enjoyed academic freedom in UP napapasalamat talaga ako in my so many years decades in the university and outside the university there was freedom for me and my co-researchers to talk about measurements indicators methodologies of data collection data analytics like finding determinants of poverty predicting economic performance of the country for casting weather all of these issues and of course packaging information so naman siya ko po ka ni may research on multidimensional poverty indicator pinili ko po ito sa nang example of how academic freedom makes us bloom poverty as I've said is very controversial so the concept of poverty is clear but how do you really measure it so how do we measure poverty how do we identify the poor these are questions that we should always ask we do not want to be always status ko we want to innovate so we always ask tama ba yung ginagawa ng world back na ang kanilang indicator of poverty is ko ikaw ay billon $1.9 per day tama ba yun sa Pilipinas yung ating measure of poverty official statistics on poverty is based on income alone so tama ba yun na ang income only basis for you to say that the person is poor should that we consider other dimensions like access to services in education social services so ito po yung question on research na min e sabihin namin baka hindi tayo satisfied so $1.9 a day na ng world back baka hindi tayo satisfied dun sa income basis na identifying the poor so other dimensions were considered and so we talk about what are the determinants of poverty well how do we collect the data what are the results how do we release the results and who should know the results so example lang po ito na risota ng study na dinawa namin na anakita namin if we consider multidimensional poverty indicator as a measure of deprivation poor siya kasi na deprived siya nito mga different areas that would cost poverty like access to education access to health and nutrition services housing water and sanitation employment and we found out that in 2016 to 2017 basic education po ang isang number one na deprivation index ng pamilya alam po ba ninyo ang datos nagsasabi na nako half of Filipino families as of 2017 di isang high school graduate wala po sila imagine 50% of Filipino families ni isang member mila wala ng high school graduate sa kanila so in my mind ito po talaga iportante the academic freedom kasi we have this freedom to ask questions and if I may add this as national statistician I was the data ambassador of the Philippines to the UN and my experience in the university of academic freedom critical thinking asking questions helped me be a good participant in discussions globally of statistics methodologies salamat ut marami po salamat alright maraming salamat Tamis Lisa ang galinga na po kasi Fidel parang tipong iba ibang sector man or policy field akane lang pinagagalingan sa suma total malagang academic freedom for what UP stands for service, excellence and integrity alright punta tayo sa reactors panel natin Fidel, kaibigan mo yung susunod na speaker na tatandaan mo to sa arts and sciences student council pero nag-iba na ba siya? Fidel, introduce mo ito UPING UP ito magamat matagal ng nawala sa UP si Dr. Emanuel Boyeng Laliana tinututing pa natin isang member ng UP community si Boyeng Laliana ay dating popesod ng political science pero isa siya ng digital guru siya ang founder at chief executive ng IDEA Corp. isang independent non-profit organization na nakafokus sa pagamit ng ICT sa governance education, business at economiya siya din ay ang digital development advisor ng UNSCAP Asia Pacific Training Center for Information and Communication Technology for Development na nakabase insurance sa South Korea dito sa UNSCAP Training Center nagdedevelop siya at nagbibigay ng training on data-driven governance social media for development data protection and privacy and developing national ICT policies and e-governance for government officials of SCAP member countries si Dr. Laliana ay isa din miembro ng technical panel for political science at technical working group on smart campus development ng CHED siya naging consultant at World Bank on open data, e-government civil registry and vital statistics at ng National ID Management Systems para sa Pilipinas siya ay naging consultant ng UNDP sa Butan where he worked with the Ministry of Information and Communications to develop the social media policy of the Royal Government of Butan si Dr. Laliana ay nakapagturo hindi lang sa UP Deliman kung di patirin sa Lasal sa University of Malaysia and also continues to serve as lecturer and resource person at the Career Executive Service Board mga kaibigan si Dr. Boying Laliana. Hello, Boying. Mr. Sapidel, malamingsalamat sa magandang introduction. Magandang hapong sa ating lahat at malamingsalapat sa organizers for inviting me to this panel. Etok atang unang pag-describe sa akin na pantas. Marunong, dalubhasa, expert ko. Syempre, tumtua ako sa description ako. Pero nung ginagawa ko dito sa panel na ito, hindi ba ako isang epistemic trespasser in the popular parlance, Anong kay ko? Part of the explanation is that I'm working in the field of digital development as has been described by PDEL. I think a greater part of the explanation is that I follow the power knowledge tradition in the social sciences. So yung power knowledge, one word, power slash knowledge. So Foucault introduced the term power knowledge to signify that power is established through accepted forms of knowledge, scientific understanding and truth. In this way, society creates a regime of truth and social institutions define what counts as true. Take for instance, data-driven decision making or science-based policy. When we promote, as we should, the use of data and analytics in decision making, we should also ask who are privileged or empowered and who are marginalized using this approach. So a definition of data-driven decision making is that it's a process of making organizational decision based on actual data rather than intuition or observation. Given this definition, it is clear that policy analysts, technocrats, statisticians are given a favored role over civil servants or politicians in decisions or policy. The latter should listen to the former. Recently, there's a lot of buzz on the algorithmic term, the increasingly central and strategic role of data processing in automated reasoning in business and in politics. In business, automated decision systems are used for credit decisions, employment, screening, insurance eligibility and marketing. In the public sector, algorithms are increasingly used in electoral processes, governance and policy making. The promise, of course, is that it makes for better and faster decisions. But the reality is more complicated. I'm referring to algorithmic bias or systematic and repeatable errors in a program that create unfair outcomes such as privileging one arbitrary group of users over others. Bias in algorithm can emanate from unrepresentative or incomplete training data or the reliance on flawed information that reflects historical inequalities. For instance, women are poor credit. So banks generally do not allocate loans to women and prefer men. If left unchecked, biased algorithms can lead to decisions which can have collective, disparate impact on people's lives. In other words, it can be a problem that can be solved in groups even without the programmer's intention to discriminate. In sum, in the power knowledge tradition, power and knowledge are not seen as independent entities, but are inextricably related. Knowledge is always an exercise of power and knowledge. At the same time, data science is an interdisciplinary field that uses scientific methods, processes, algorithms and systems to extract knowledge and insights from any structural and unstructured data. It's related to data mining, machine learning, and big data. On the other hand, critical data studies is an emergent interdisciplinary field that uses legal, sociocultural, epistemological, and political aspects of data science, big data, and digital infrastructure. Critical data studies interrogates all forms of potentially depoliticized data science and tracks the way in which data are generated, curated, and how they permeate and exert power on all manners of life. Research topic in critical studies include data justice, data empowerment, data privacy, and gendering data, and responsible artificial intelligence. Of course, this is not, this is that universal critical data studies just assembling. Now, of course, there is a good relationship between establishing a world-class data science and critical data studies with academic freedom. Without academic freedom, you really cannot have good data science or good critical data studies program. Now, I don't think I need to elaborate on this relationship as this has been discussed by the panelists and is, in a sense, a well-trodden ground. All I want to add is this, and this is also to realize what education is all about. To quote the Irish poet, education is not the filling of a pail but the lighting of a fire. Maraming salamat po. Wow, parang naging poet, si Dr. Boying, lighting of a fire, masyadong provocative, yata yung mga pinagsasasabi. All right, kaya yata marireb, tankan na naman dyan. Meron tayong isang speaker. Galing sa Program Management Office for Earthquake Resiliency of Greater Metro Manila Area, Office of the President. Si Mr. Ramon J. Santiago ay experienced na consultant na may demonstrated history of public service. He's skilled in non-profit organizations, sustainable development, analytical skills, government and emergency management. Galing sa Philosophy Department ng University of the Philippines. Dr. Mon? Ang gandang hapon Mon. Kailag ka mag-amute. Hindi ka mading nigg Mon. Maraming salamat at tamagad ng hapon po sa inyong lahat. First of all, gusto ko saan ay korak yung production sa akin. Hindi po ako doctor. Ako po ay kadala saan. Tawag lang nila sa akin ay director Mon. Kahapong pa ako na, unang-unay sa paghangad sa ating mga nagsalita na una patin ay akin ka sa mga reaktor, si Dr. Ralyana. Sa aking mga na-denig ay talagang nakikita natin na ko ano kahalagahan ng malayang pag-salixic o pag pagaaral. Maganda ang kahapon at kanina umaga nang di isip ako magpre-prepare na ako ng reaksiyo na. Pero minabuti ko na mading nigg Mon ay ang ating mga naunang panelist upang makita ko talaga ang gist at makita ko yung punto-divista ng ating mga involved sa akademia. Maganda ang pakakalahad ng Dr. Mahar ng historical perspective ng mga anban nagiging kahinaan ng isang society dahilan sa pagsikil ng malayang pag-iisip. Paganda yung kanyang na ibigay na punto na upang maging mayabong ang knowledge o ang karunungan mas mabute na hindi ito restricted at ito ay kadalasan sa educational system mas mabuting kung ating mga sa saliksake ay malaya sa kanila pag-iisip at malaya mga akagalaw kung ano man ang gusto lang tokoyin sa kanang pag-aral lalong-lalong na sa sciensia. Na dini ko rin kay Dr. David ay mga nag-i-experiencia nila sa experience nila sa film nakadalasan nakikita natin sa mga news articles na may mga pangyayari na hindi rin talaga kalongkot-longkot din para sa ating mga nananaliksake. Pilakita rin niya kung community at cultural support sa mga siyentipi kung pananaliksake. At unang-unang inlayo ni ito na makatulong sa ating society kung hindi ito makakapuha ng support ang muna sa komunidad at mananatili silang threatened sa kanilong pag-alaw hindi rin ito nagbubungan ng dynamic dynamic activities para talagang mawala yung boundary na pwede umiipit sa kanilong pag-i-isip otuloy ang pagsaliksake. Yung nabangkit na kanina dahilan dito sa mga repercussion na ang UP ay otuloy ang perception sa UP ay ay maysan na-isip para-activista na lang tayo lahat pero malaki ang nagiging contribution ng mga hindi lamang nasa ordinario katungkulan o kaya sa private sector ng mga nagaling sa UP yung itong ito kasing kadalas ang ang hindi na realize sa ating mga kababayan ay marami rin ang mula sa UP at ang pag-i-isip na isang nagaling sa UP nakikita natin there's a free flow of ideas at ito ay dahilan sa ating malaya ka nakapag-i-isip malaya ka nakapag-e-express pagdating naman kay Dr. Brasales nakikita ko na sumasang ayan din ako sa kanyang mga nabangkit na kinakailangan na may explore din yung ibang dimension at hindi tayo na-apectuhan ng mga poanimpanan nao o ng convention pagdating dito ang universidad ay nagiging ground for exploring other dimension or determinance gusto ko rin i-relate sa ating makikilig o na noonod nitsong programa na ako nanggaling ako all throughout my experience na sa pamahalaan din ako umabot ay sa punto na minsan na di din ako na more recently na sinasabi na kinakailangan science-based ang mga policy-ya kinakailangan ay data-driven kagay nabangkit kanina niyan internal data-driven ay Dr. Rallayana at Dr. Brasales at may mga ibangsangay na rin tayo na pamahanan na dito na rin at siguro kung mapapayabung pa ay magiging ikang irrational and logical ang ating mga policy-ya at mga programa involved ako sa earthquake at naging challenge nga rin ito dahat dela sa wala na mga naniwala sa iyo kung hindi kagamit ang numero hindi kagamit ng sayang tipi kung datos so nung ginawa yung project sa ating inadidiling natin West Valley Fault minabuti natin makipartner sa ibang dahil misan wala naniwala sa mga di ba hindi naman sumikat si Christo sa kanyang sarilimbayan kadalasan ay na-influenciahan tayo o misan naniwala pa tayo sa ibang lahi para lamang isulong programa dito so dito yung mga application ng sayang sa mga policy-ya at kung paggamit ng mga datos ay unti-unti namin naging trend at kung patuloy sa academic setting na talagang pati mga estudyante, ating mga guru at mga mana nalixic ay patuloy dito pag-develop ng kultura na ito at hindi sila mas siya dumatatali sa mga conventional pag-iisip ng kulbito ay palagay ko ay unti-unti malalapas natin ang lahat ng mga challenges na ating hinaharap pati ang mga percepcion ng umiiral dito sa ating spaman tasan kadalasan mga kanina, tinitig ng po yung datos na pinakita ang Dr. Lasales nakita natin mababa talaga o on-day privation natin sa education ay malaki-prevent talaga ang porciento at siguro kung gagamitin lang ang mga output ng ating mga nasa academia gagamitin lang para sa pag-develop ng mga policy at programa na mas responsive sa needs ng ating mga kababayan ay matutugunan yung mga short kanus na ito kadalasan na kasi dipender sa ating pag-express nung ating mga nakitaan datos upang tayo mismo ay pakinggandan ng mga policy makers at decision makers sa ating micling reaction na ito sana ay nakatulong din ito talagang humahanga ako sa ating mga naging speakers at yung nao ng reaktor sa aking at maraming salamat sa pag-begay daan sa aking dito na iskipa paano ay mailahat ko rin ko anong nakita kung presentasyon ng ating mga panelist maraming salamat po ayan sorry, mahalaga po yung inyong ko nga sinabi Mr. Monsantiago So Fidel, meron tayong next speaker Bagetz naman ito Sujante Sujante, si Goran Tomacruz ay isang 50-year student ng BS Chemical Engineering sa UP Dilimann siya ang team leader ng Alamat UP na siguro alam nyo ito recently nanalo sa Shell Ecomarathon yung pitch the future competition ang Alamat UP ay nanalo ng global championship in the tracking and reduction of carbon dioxide emissions from vehicles category na talo niya ang 84 other teams mula sa ibad ibang bansa siya ay mula ng 2017 siya isang student apprentice sa laboratory of Electrochemical Engineering kung saan siya nga nga assist sa ibad ibang research projects siya ay isang magna cum laude napaka-aktivo sa research isang magna cum laude candidate at miembro ng UP Chemical Engineering Society sa mga mga kaibigan si Goran Tomacruz Hi, hello pa everyone of the afternoon so ron po magpasalamat sa opportunity and the corresponding organizations as well as I would also like to say hi to my family who is watching as well as my workmates in Lee, Ken and Alamat UP in my part I'd like to give my own perspective not as a scientist but more as a student probably scientist or engineer to be as well as tie in with my experiences as a global champion in the previous competition so like Dr. David I am extremely passionate about survival science particularly climate crisis which is why I started researching in the laboratory for Electrochemical Engineering since 2017 and that training gave me the skills that I needed to think of innovative and great ideas for Alamat UP which we won a global championship on but I do recognize that not everyone has the access and the opportunities and the privileges that I have had not everyone has the solid bubble of support and for many students academic freedom is not attained so that's what I would like to give today Dr. Lagmay mentioned that academic freedom is the freedom to teach and the freedom to learn which I completely agree but in the context of students and teachers I would like to give a more specific at least my version of what I think academic freedom should be for me academic freedom should provide fair education where my fellow students and teachers have the access and the facilities to learn and teach in their chosen fields and service for society as well as the ability to speak out on these issues if these goals are not attained so in UP alone these this academic freedom is not always followed with barriers that have existed especially in the previous semester so we had intense storms that cut off many of our fellow students electricity and internet access actually it also affected our team in Alamat UP we were not we were almost not able to pass our proposal due to the problems in electricity and internet access so this was also from personal experience as well and even and there are students in remote areas that do not have stable access even before the oncoming storms and these students have difficulty in catching up to these to the requirements that are set by the university so if we can't help our students today then can they help our society tomorrow? That's a question that I wanted to pose even outside UP there are so much there many students are also experiencing the same problems if not more as Dr. Bresales mentioned a while ago and since education is the number one source of depravement we have to laser in into these kinds of problems so how do we get to a free and fair education so some of the solutions include in my opinion unyielding efforts to support students with poor to no access to academic resources financial support for more research and development activities especially in areas that are immediately beneficial to our society greater flexibility for faculty of working hours because sometimes there are professors who are more adept in mentoring their professors that are more adept in teaching and giving them more freedom could let them exercise the power to teach more effectively and guide the future scientists and engineers of our country and then lastly this goes without saying but I think that it is also important that there should be immediate medical support for the country as the best long-term solution when it comes to resolving this education inequality is to have science-based and sustainable medical solutions not just physical which is of course obviously COVID-19 but also mental as many disorders and mental illnesses such as depression and anxiety are also under rise during this period so this is actually our advocacy in Alamat Yopi what we wanted to show was that our win was not just an acknowledgement of our abilities to think of new ideas but it also is a testament to what Filipinos can achieve with no boundaries and a free and fair education in my numerous competitions at my works in the laboratory I've met with people from different backgrounds different colleges different universities and many of them all of them have brilliant ideas we need to make sure that these ideas come into reality by taking down these barriers alright Maraming salamat Goran at mukang talagang it takes to produce good science and good scientists ngayon po, acknowledge ang dag-dagnating participants from Mariano Marcos State University ng Batak, Ilocos Norte from Legaspe City and from Dubai, United Arab Emirates ngayon, imported ang ating special guest actually, ito po ay statement ngayon ni Daisy Magalit Rodriguez mula sa San Francisco, USA na ginawa ng UP Alumni Association in America. Miss Daisy are you ready to read the statement for our participants here in the Philippines? Gabi po do na no pero gising na gising pa si Miss Daisy Welcome Miss Daisy Salamat sa introduction mo malo Good afternoon everybody from California we don't have snow here like Texas but it's still quite cold so Maraming salamat sa inyo good afternoon everyone distinguished panelists reactors Ginaar, magandang hapon po pa ayong ahapon dita ya ako at saka magandang ano mayayon nga hapon sa aklan I feel very humbled actually and privileged to be among this group of people who are so distinguished to join this group and other alumni to give a voice to strongly support our alma matter in our fight to preserve academic freedom the university I echo the sentiments of UP alumni across the globe in the United States to represent my organization the University of the Philippines Alumni Association thank you for giving me the opportunity to read my letter so here goes it was written January 26th Dear President faculty and students on behalf of the UP Alumni Association we express our strong support for your stand in preserving the integrity and independence of the university as the bastion of academic freedom our vision clearly articulates the values of UP AAA as a strong broad-based organization of alumni of the University of the Philippines in the service and support of the alma matter the UP alumni the UP system and the community in pursuit of common goals recent developments have prompted us to highlight once more what the university can control as the nation's premier educational institution of learning is a microcosm of the larger community but has a significant role in nation building it is and it has been the breeding ground for progressive and creative ideas and free expression represented by our iconic statue of the ablation the university has created ideas and free expression university has produced leaders in the community and country who have contributed in a large part to the progress of our native land cycling academic freedom denigrates the immense promise of the youth to contribute to the future of the country as a foreign-based organization of UP alumni driving to unify alumni in the United States and other countries by the anchor upon which alumni living in foreign lands from the diaspora of the past look for unity and collaboration it is therefore with alarm that will see the insidious threat to the independence leadership of the university in promoting academic freedom in other institutions of learning all over the country we need the UP youth to go boldly into the future to shape our nation as leaders that the country needs them to be we need the faculty to continue molding young minds in the tradition of our heroes of the past and become leaders of tomorrow we recognize that unlawful behavior is never tolerated by the university and has adhered to the observance of these laws but it is also the obligation of the university to protect the rights of the students the faculty and everyone within the jurisdiction of the university when these rights are violated without due process democracy in the country is gradually eroded holding the threat of punishment or fear over the heads of students at the university as a whole becomes a cloud that suppresses growth of academic vibrancy closing in pursuit of honor and excellence UPAA remains truly yours signed by me Desi Amradrigas national president and Dr. Jovenia Sello our executive vice president it's an opportunity Maraming salamat Miss Desi Hindi lang pala sa US, Philippines, Middle East Sa Canada Maraming hu talaga na Thank you Miss Desi Alright critical hu yung sinabi na parang do not suppress that freedom because then we cannot build young minds into leaders of the nation Alright Fidel question and answer session may mga ilanapong nagpasan ng ilang tanong at siguro kung may rungpahung hahabol maganda din hu kayong sumagot ito galing ke Maria sa Lume Vios para siguro sa lahat ng panelist ito Hindi kaya na stifle ng academic freedom sa UP ang kanikanilang UP Manila ng kanilang in-endorse ang Sinovac vaccine ang transparency at saka wala ng publication ng interim phase 3 trial ng Sinovac ito yung muugong kasi pangunahing balita sa bayan ang bakunahan I don't know if our scientists and our pan-task would have some comments here Medyo na sacrifice my academic freedom I think it was Dr. Maharo said na dapat hindi lang institutional, financial ng UP ng academic freedom can we get our scientist to respond ano sa tingin mo fidel yung unang katano na itungko sa bakunah kasi mukhang yun talaga yung pangunahing issue sa maraming taumbayan natin ngayon alright Meron hu bang panelist gusto mag-comment don't si Dr. Maharo marami kasing questions sa magaganda mama ya doon sa ating mga ibangun oh po Dr. Maharo ano tingin mo na sacrifice malo sa tingin ko hindi naman kasi pinayagan naman silang magsalitay to express their views yun nga na hulang sa datos at pinayagan naman silang magsalitay hindi ba na karun ng town hall na meeting and everybody was able to ask questions and opinions about the vaccination siyempre sa university marama na iba iba ang mga views but ultimately merong kailangan decision na gawin basically yung decision na yun was probably made in the interest of the country but in terms of suppression I don't think there was any suppression of the views of the people okay so may actually problem may atalang din doon sa transparency ang isang issue na sinabi dito nung sa nating participant na academic freedom rest not only on teaching and learning but also the results of the exercise of academic freedom if the truth will come out na parang problema tayo dito na parang if the truth doesn't come out so parang stifled by academic freedom as well as ito po ay katanungan galing kay Glenda Arquiza so kailangan da with academic freedom rest more on what the faculty teaches and how it teaches in pursuit of the truth but the most important thing is being responsible accountable and maintaining respect for the dignity so if the truth doesn't come out o katoan naman yan in respect for the dignity I think na walayon I believe that after the town hall meeting when everybody was able to express their views their opinions ito sa discussion na ganun naman talaga sa C.N. Shine sa ayans kung ano pinagbobo tohan kung ano yung tama umali e it's a consensus achieved through time but anyway in this case sa COVID meron kailangan na decision na gawin and that decision had to be made yun lang ang tingin ko so Fidel si Doctor Laura kasama din sa Dolomite issue na sumilip na usaping yun Doctor Laura interesting and in a way worrisome yung sinasabi ninyo na may physical threat minsan lumusong kayo sa dagat pag daong ninyo ay ibanay ang pangulo ang panahon ng EDSA People Power 2 at nagkaroon din ho ng minsan incidente na pag ahon ninyo sa dagat ay may mga baril na nakatutok sa inyo how important and how actually could we address issues like that security or threats sa field I'm sure si Doctor Mahar may nagingkaran asan na na fethreten kasi they don't like the results of your research or they don't like you going into areas saabingan ni Doctor Boying parang critical data na mahanap How much are scientists at risks? Siguro mamalu palahorin niya ng kaitanong relationship communication channels kailangan parati kami natutok kami na mag inform na mga kakahirap namin public so na dadag-dagal lang yun listahan parati kung dati si Mayor lang at si Barangay Captain napat kasama Philippine National Police DND so information I think is actually a safety net the more they know why you're doing it the better the relationship so yun yung isa kaya request namin on their side then is to keep that communication open na walang decisions to be made walang actions to be made without that communication pero nagtatalo ang science siya at politika madalasa na po ok lang naman pumantalo ang science at politika kasi iba naman yung kanyang science is in the pursuit of truth and knowledge whereas politics is the part, the real politics is for the benefit of the people so kuminsan hindi kasi kasi short term benefits ang pinitignan instead of long term so kuminsan hindi siya kagad mag magtugmak pero again with dialogue and constant communication hopefully magkaintindihan yung dalawa where the politics is trying to exercise it's right to make sure that it's beneficial for people and for the scientists to show ito talaga yung science ito talaga yung data and napat siya ang isama sa decision making si Chan, si Fidel baka gusto nung sumali numahok at kasi I think si Dr. Lisa din may karanasan dyan sabi niya pang poverty report naku ang daming gulo ang daming puna ang daming galit kasi ayaw nila yung resulta so Dr. Fidel and Dr. Lisa can you weigh in on that? Anyway, malulay lalapag pag pinagusapan nakarang termination ng UPD and the agreement tingin lagi na tao yung lagi magkatugnale ang UPD at ang nagubyaw pero ang actually agreement ay naging framework for cooperation naitong nakarang tatlumdikada gusto kapan e tanong sa tatlunating panelist anong nga ba ibad-ibang engagement nyo with government at may affecto ba dito ang pag-oalambisa ng ating UPD and the agreement? Alam ko si Chan alam ko halambaw as si Dr. Lau ay atalagang marami ang collaboration with the Philippine Navy na pwede ba ating isayan si umpisa tayo kay Lau? Tama po yung marami kami in collaboration with the Philippine Navy and Philippine Coast Guard and also Department of Foreign Affairs kasi nga usapan ng territorio kansama po rin namin ang DILG kasi nung kami sa LGU kumupunta so and to wait po ito hindi lang yung kami may keilangan sa kanila and therefore ni-inform namin sila sila rin po lumalapid sa amin kung niya re meron silang problema na gusto nilang ipasog kung niya re mas gusto nila mas mandaling makapag-communicate under water o meron silang mga gusto ipadevelop na technology para madaling makita kumidumadaan o gumagamitan sa partin ng karagatan lumalapid din po sila sa amin and next siyong nga po kung ipapatan nyo meron lang po kawing balak na offer na professional masters in operational oceanography ang target po nito itong mga ahensya nga na ito kasama pa ng NAMRIA pag-ASA DNR before in the police force as well para matutusilan ang mga kailangan lang malaman po sa karagatan professional master siya so mga 16 months siya modular in the hopes now because of a better understanding they can also help us better protect our environment Doctor Mahar, anong engagement mo? Sa sagutin po lang meron dito ako na fitang question sa chat there was no consensus I was referring to mga discussions about science in general nandigo naman po sinadin na nagkaroon ng consensus in fact ang importante na kinalabasan niya talong town hall meeting was that walang sapilitan na magpabakuna I think that was made clear during the discussions and nobody was forced to take the the vaccine the Sinovac lang in fact kung ayaw hindi naman daw mapapalita may bababakun sa priority list kung hindi pag may dumating ay pwede pa rin makakuhay mga healthcare workers so in fact that's right there was no consensus kaya gaya nga nang sinabi ko hindi po pinagbatohan ng science ako anong altama malik it is arrived at at sa consensus in time alright yung tanong po yun galing ke Noreto Anthony Rosales datin chairperson ng commission on human rights na umateng po ng ating webinar ngayon ayung tingin nyo do sa tanong ni Fidel ano yung engagement din yung sa gobierno at mayroon bang mga pwede improvement ng mga ngayari Doctor Mahar? kakai ulit po kakai ulit na tanongan po ni Doctor Fidel the Chancellor Fidel mga agent at anong Fidel anong pwede naging minstant pinagbabangga tayo sa gobierno nakakalimutan niya tanong mga taon tayo rin ay partner ng gobierno ay ok sigil, tama yan in fact sa narangan po ng science dito po sa UP kaya naman po masarap din na na sa University of the Philippines dahil meron po tayong parang kalayaan na magsalita at magsabi kung ano yung mga resulta ng science natin di po nga ngahong lugar na porki sinasabi natin yun ay kaaway nakakagat natin dahil sa lungat ito sa policia na ginagawa ang gusto lang po natin ipahatid to ay kapag ka tayo ay nagsasalita meron tayong pananaw na ganon dahil sa ibedensya na ito ay pinag-aralan sinurik at may basehan yung sinasabi hindi po ito para atakihin ang gobierno kung hindi ito po ay para isulong kung ano yung ating pinag-aralan kung ating nadescubre ating napag-alaman sa pananaliksik yun lang dapat po hindi ganon at maganda na meron tayong ganyan dito sa University ako malakasakumagsalita ng mga bagay-bagay na minsan sa lungat sa mga policia ng gobierno at hindi po ako natatakut doon kasi alam ko na hindi namang po personal yung aking sinasabi yung aming mga sinasabi kung hindi ito ay buka lang lang pag-aaral at ayun kapag pinaghalo po na merong malisha doon sa sinasabi hindi po tama yun hindi dapat tayo pinag-aaway sa guberno sa guberno dahil ang ginagawa lang po natin ay yung ating nalalaman buka lang nung ating mga ginagawa sa pamantasan ng Pilipinas. Si Dr. Lisa. Thank you. Thank you, Malu. Ay, masasabi ko po medyo mag-ganda po ang karanasan ko sa engagement with government kasi po meron na po long tradition statistics sa University of the Philippines na nakikipag-usap sa ating statistical agencies. So in fact palaging nandun po tayo sa mga interagency committees ng statistics agencies. So actually humihingi sila ng inputs from UP sa pag-developing questionnaires sa pang-compute ng indicators sa pag-develop ng mga proseso using technology. Ang masasabi kung difficult ay pag na-approved ay yung methodology so yun wala pang risulta na-approved yung methodology gagamiti na yung risulta kung misal masakit ang information masakit ang information na ng government. Pero ang kagadahan naman po ang rules of engagement acakaklear yung reason for the message ay patanggap naman po after the initial disappointment to hear the negative message. And for me na nang national statistician na po ng height ng high inflation noon ay sabi kung dapat po makinig na po kayo sa negative information doon kayo dapat nagkikindi kasi alert po you under something wrong happening and so inappropriate initiatives can be done. So after the initial storm medyo kalma makikidig na po kailangan ng medyo cool na cool lang kagigay ng negative message. Marami pang salamat. May tanong dito ba kasi Chancellor makapag sumagotano may research ba ang UP about covid vaccine ang situasyon ng UP contribution o relation sa gobierno kawg nai ng covid response galing po yan ke Rafi Akino at Kejamae Canas to all the panelists ano yung tignin nino nakatulong ba ang UP sa covid response? Nakakumalakiang tulong ng UP in fact na sa front line ng UP siguro ang makakasagot na dito si Mahab dahil si Mahab ay minsan nag-attend na mga meeting ng IATF may research ba ang UP sa covid vaccine sa pagalam ko wala pero ang pinag-aralan niya ngayon ang mga bagong testing methods at pinag-aralan niya ang pag-sequence at ito mga bagong variants dito sa ating Philippine Genome Center in fact this next few days nakatutuk sila sa pag-aral ng mga bagong variants na lumalabas ngayon. Pero si Mahar si Mahad baka pwedeng pwedeng sagutin dito dahil Sa pagkakalam ko marami po mga gumagalaw sa UP hindi lang po sa Diliman hindi lang po sa Manila ako hindi po ang UP system marami po mga nagagawa in fact ang ating executive vice president sa UP na si Ted Erbosa ay kasama po doon sa national task force nagbibigay siya ng advice doon sa national task force kaya secretary Galvez ang makaramihan ng mga nasasabi niya kasi ang buong UP gumagalaw yung mga matematicians yung mga nasa UPLB nasa bioinformatics hanggang sa UP Mindanao at saka sa UP Visayas magkakasama-sama at gumagawa po mga predictive mga models siya mga projections ginagawa din daily ang statistics mam, alam niyo to na si Peter Caiton po na andami halos gumagawa ng 4,000 pages per day per day ang ginagawa niya on the statistics of COVID imagine niyo po ilang taon na isang taon na tayo more than 365 days ta siguro tayong na sa lockdown so how many pages yung pagtalanon kung bagay yung mga ginagawa po ng UP ay direct siyopo na pungapasok doon sa napapakinggan ng National Task Force for implementation at in the earlier period kasama din po tayo sa IATF meetings in fact marami po tayo din mga recommendations din tayo alam natin na minsan pinakikinggan minsan hindi pinakikinggan pero nakikibaday din po tayo na pumbagan na tayo ay nakuponsulta hindi naman po natin kasi pwede ikiit na tayo lang ang tama ni ba pero pwede natin sabihin na ito yung ating mga pananaw basit doon sa mga pagaaral at maali niyo itong iconsider kasi iba po yung government din iba po din yung ginagawa pero ang maganda doon meron naging parang basihan ng decision para sa mga polisiya panlaban sa COVID minsan natusunod minsan hindi pero ginagawa po natin ang abut ang ating makakaya para makatulong marami po talagang ginagawa in fact tinitignan to sa ibang bansa tinatalong tayo anong ginagawa sa campus hindi lang tayo tumutulong sa Diliman Campus hindi lang tayo tumutulong sa Lusbanyus Campus hindi inexpand po natin ito para mapakinabangan ng publico Meron ka tanungan Fidel quick ito sa ilang akin k Dr. Lang ang sadalamite issue were you threatened akademically when DNR said that you were bayaran? Hindi po ang me-interpretation ng talaga is wrong choice of words in a really big misunderstanding on that part kasi we've been working with DNR for a long long time and we know and appreciate their inputs and vice versa marami kaming na-input na sa DNR so this is just a small misunderstanding in a long long series of collaborations with DNR so definitely not threatened at all Alright So it's up to me Napakagal din nilawan ang folks person ng science community nung nungabas yung issue ng Dolomite binabas ako itong huling comment dito galing kay Rain Sindayag natin nang USC gaya mo at dito sinususugan nyan ang sinabi ni Boying kanina ang knowledge hindi pwede ihwalay sa usapin ng power pero pinaalala rin niya na si Leonard ko na siguro kilala nyo bilang isa sa pinakama husay na botanist ng Pilipinas ay lagin victim kawala na academic freedom gaya ni Galileo at ni Einstein nabinangkit ka nila ni Mahara Alright, tama So Boying gusto bang magcomit dun Dr. Laliana si Leonard ko sa botanist na target dahil siya daw ay tumutulong sa... Napakay siya habang nag-filled work nangalala kong sinabi ni Dr. Lau na napakahalaga ng seguridad sa mga field workers at field scientists nangyari Boying Sa palagay kay naman sa lahat ng policy areas ng dunan UP hindi naman I don't think there's an area na hindi pinoponsusta ang UP faculty and research kahit sa political science policy person ang nagiging problema ang critical kasi tinatanggap naman nila ang positive comments pero nag-react sa critical but that again is part of part of our role which is not only to help but refine policy but also rethink policy policy ang issue ng field work mas malaking issue din yan sa social science ang archaeologists ang anthropologists sociologists na gumagawa ng field work at least nga kung sinabi mo ano ako maring scientist tinatanggap nila sa science nyo nagsinabi nilang political scientist ako doing field work po monista to hindi science sa political science so we have I think the problems of natural sciences and the social sciences are roughly similar we do provide useful advice to government we are critical of government in certain policy issues but then when we become critics which is part of our role then that's where friction happens okay so may batalastas lang sa glitfidelan kung tungkol daw sa COVID-19 ang sabi ng UP Vice President for Public Affairs Jim Nennieper pumunta po kayo doon sa website ng UP UP.edu.ph COVID-19 dash update para po sa lahat ng COVID efforts ng UP kasama na po yung kanilang patuloy ng webinar series na stop COVID-19 so sampun taon na daw silang gumagawa na wala wala silang gumagawa na ito mga webinar na ito Fidel malu balika natin yung kuento ni Leonard Ko dahil ang sabi ni Tessie Angsy sampun taon na namin ginagapang ang kaso ni Leonard ito yung justice for Leonard Ko Campay nyo yung pwede hilingin atisikan si Eta Rosales na datin CHR chair kung pwede siya mag-comment kung ko sa kaso ni Leonard Ko bakit nga ba na hirap ang mga postil siya para Leonard Ko Salamat Fidel Metal Tattoo kung tanong pero I will start with Leonard Ko Ever since when I was chair of CHR i-unmute at i-labas yung video na wala si mam Unmute ako All right Ito mga ito All right mam Go ahead Can you see me but I can't Yes ma We can see you later Yeah I just want to say that when I was in CHR chair kinutukan namin si Leonard Ko and ang position namin for the lawyers or here Rafi is here is actually it was a violation of the international Yes violation of the humanitarian law because they didn't even know they mistook Leonard Ko for NPA and they thought the military they thought they were in NPA territory when in fact they were in NPA territory they were in the energy and development cooperation territory and Leonard Ko was doing research there now ang kala nito mga kuan nito mga militar na hindi pinagaralan hindi pinagaralan yung area ala nila kasi forests of kanang ganito ala nila nandong sa NPA territory it was so stupid so bineril nila kasi merong kaluskos doon sa forests it was Leonard and so from yung contest yung kanyang kasama at si Luis Baromeo yung guide nila na magsasaka na pinagaralan yung research kaya grahaby dalaga na pakasakit anong nangyari yun ako I am emotionally affected by it because well I've become close already to Linda Ko the wife and Reena my daughter recognizes Leonard Ko and so on anyway to make story short tunutukan namin yun of course wala na ako sa CHR pero yun yung amen tapos yung lawyer ng Leonard murder ang sabi nya called blood and murder ang ginawan ng gobierno ng NBI in investiga nila siyempre kampis nila sa militan yan ang mga biases kasi so ang nilabas nila what was it it was actually homicide it was available and homicide bailable na homicide ang kabila ko so the military who were responsible for killing Leonard Ko and Sofronya Contest and Luis Borromeo went scot free they were bailable and that has been how long ago was it seven, nine years ago and so up to now the poor girl Glenda Ko still has to go to Kananggam municipal court in order to follow up the case wala na sumo sumo doon sa case na yun so she came to me so I said I will help you the way I can yun anong nangyayari ngayon I spoke to Maidas Maidas from the Supreme Court at at the Supreme Court at the Supreme Court at the Supreme Court at the Supreme Court at the Supreme Court palitan niyang don't go to the municipal court bring it to the McCarthy Court so that the poor girl can go to McCarthy already so that is the case and to me to me I'm talking to the UP alumni we can help learner God number one by helping him and his family access justice hangga ngayon and then number two yung kanyang mga kwan ang studiante niya merong siya mga studiante they came up with a beautiful kwan YouTube about learner God so natin ang mga kabataang yan for all you know naka graduate na sila so yan ang yung Goran the young Goran who spoke I was so impressed with him I think this is what he was trying to say so let us follow the path yung that is learner God thank you com chair eta Pidil merong ka tanungan na iba pa pero sabi ni attorney Rafi Aquino yung international humanitarian law principle ng distinction between military and non-military targets ay na disregard sa kaso nil Leonard Ko clear as day pero nagcomit naman si Rainier as tinsindayan paano na lang ayon outright nirereddag ang mga tagayupi thinking about Leonard Ko's case was then mistaken for an NPA ngayon outright basta na lang tagayupi NPA now I don't know how the panelists could probably give two cents worth there kasi pa closing remarks asana tayo no? Ano ba yan? Dalalagay ba sa bingit ang seguridad ang buhay ang trabaho ng ating mga cntp ko kapag ka hindi ayon o hindi maganda ang resulta at paano natin pwede yung protectahan yung ating mga cntp ko isa sigurong round ng last closing remarks ng ating panelist. Salamat po, chair Eta. Salamat Eta. Salamat din pero si Kuan can I just love one one landi si Laura Laura David yung Dolomite and then just one very small Ano po yan? Oh, yung budget kasi yung budget ang philosophy ng budget they increase money for the protection according to the law enforcement which is the PMP pero yung administration of justice walang ginawa ibig sabihin si HR on Bootsman the OJ walang nga increases yan ang punto rito during the time of COVID lalong lumala ang mga violations dun sa municipal fisher folk na nawalan ng lugar ang mga fisher folk natin dun sa 15 kilometers na dapat sa kanila at saka na si Sira ang kanila ang mga Kuan lugar and so on because hindi kinulungan sila ng PMP patrol and yet PMP command patrol lumaki ang budget nila sa administration of justice I think analysis of the budget and how it actually addresses implementation for the protection of the poor should be looked into and then become critical and firm even during the implementation nila Salamat Kahapon po nag-reach out ang PMP maritime command and they want a series of workshops with them to deal with coastal and marine issues so I think at least meron sila na yung humingi meron tayong pagasa so hopefully that will work sila na humingi ng tulong okay final words sa po tayong sa ating mga panelists so paano ang siguridad ang trabaho ang akda at ang physical well-being ng ating mga cntp ko nalalagay ba sa pangani at ito sa ilangang tulong para sa lahat ang ating panelists na ako sumagot malubo mam go ahead mam magsagot ko uo kailangan yes even if I have said that I have not experienced such in my field work but still you know if there's a climate of distrust kailangan unahan na natin proactive tayo so in my mind how do we become proactive reach out to certain government agencies in my mind are government agencies that realize the importance of the work of the academics in UP but there are some government agencies that do not realize the importance of academic freedom so in maging kami di Dr. Laura nakikipagusap na at tinuturuwan na ang pnt so ako yun yung aking pananaw yes so we have to be proactive let us reach out to those who do not understand what we do thank you very much thank you Dr. Lisa Dr. Mahar yes mw gusto ko lang na maliwanagan din ang pag tinasinabi na atin academic freedom hindi lang ito tungkol sa militari no it can be any form of a no mayroong isang bested group that is able may kailangan influence a niya na pag gano na nangyari hindi makaka pagtisip ng malaya yung mga scholar natin hindi mo matimunga professor ... saka yung ating mga estudiante. Kailangan palaging malay ang pag-isip, walang magdidikta na para tayo ay makakot at hindi na makapag-isip ng mabute. Kasi kung hindi tayo paggagawa ng kanyang... ... classic environment, kung protect kanyang classic environment, yung kanyang setting, mananatili na tayo palagi sa dati, di natin may so-so long yung mga bagong idea, yung mga bagong discovery natin... ... na bubu nga lamang yan kapag malaya ang ating isip. Yun lang ang importante na hindi kailangan militar ito, academic freedom, it can be... ... any form of attack from any vested group, na dapat walang dominating control na mahihirapan tayong malay ang makapag-isip. Yung po ang aking pananaw sa academic freedom at ito ay dapat protectahan natin gaya ng mga nauna sa atin na protectahan ito sa all forms of attack sa university. Alright. Thank you, Dr. Mahar. Dr. Lau. Sa dulo po ay academic style, so we're both scientists and teachers. So as scientists, I think talagang ang makapakita natin sa society, sata ayaw tayo sa datos natin. So hindi tayo matitinag kasi datos yun. Patutohanan yun. And then as teachers, alam yun naman po, iba-ibang klasi ang mga sojante, mga sojante magdaling makaitindi, mga sojante hindi. So as teachers, I think on our part, we can just really be patient in communicating, in teaching, in sharing our data and our philosophy in the hopes that eventually... Babalik tayo dun sa datin pananaw na zin sa teachers na diba, pag teachers sa province, love na lahat, inaniniwalaan na lahat, walang bumabangga sa teacher. So dapat umabot din ulit sa panel. Dr. Lau, thank you. Ang ating po bong mga reaktor, siya may quick comments, writing shots. Dr. Roy, quickly. I think mayroon talagang an easy relationship between knowledge and the power-wilders. Uncomfortable sila sa things that they don't want to fear. Alambawa, let's not forget that the first western philosopher, Xesocrates, was sentenced to die for corrupting the minds of the young by atingyan democracy. So if you take that historic view, talagang palagi yung conflict na to, but science continues, dahil may passion, may commitment yung mga scientists. And I think in fact, even society itself is interested in the pursuit of knowledge, the pursuit of science research in teaching. So yes, there are real threats. But again, this is not new. Hallows occupational hazard na yung ata. But because we're interested in knowledge, then that's something that we would take as part of the rules of the game. I do not feel like that. Thank you, Dr. Boying. I think si Mr. Santiago, sir. Like Lee Lamang, sa nakita kung daloy naman ng mga talaka yan, ay hindi lang siguro in sciencia o yung mga poseso. Kundi talagang kagay na bangit, Dr. Lau, atsaka na mamversales, atsaka na Dr. Mahar, importante talagang pag-ugna yan ang ating pinapahatid yung mga resultan ng ating pangkong sasalik. Malaki ang factor yun. Nakikita naman ating tinatanggap lahat ang producto. Pero yung pagbalangkasang polisiya o ang programa, lumalabas na siguro yung subakod ng pagsasalik. Ay lang ultimate decision makers, not necessarily everything will be in accordance with how we would like our products to be accepted or to be used, will be dependent on who decides. Regardless of whether it comes from government or the private sector, this is basically the same principle. Salamat po, Mr. Mohan Santiago. At ang ating pinakabaget, si Goran. Goran, with your quick comments, anong yung take away? Well, my take away here is, aside from, like it's not just also the professionals that have these kinds of occupational hazards but also students as well. And science and data and research and development, they all head towards one direction, which is the truth. And in order for us to have more progression in research, development and truth in the country, academic freedom must continue to be defended and protected. Alright. Thank you, Goran. And now, we give you a chance, Fidel Nemenso, again for a summary of the webinar today. Dr. Fidel? Maluna tuwala nga ako sa kombinasyon ng speakers natin. Lala pa yung unang tatlo, na sabihin si Mahal, pinagalala ng Vulcan, si Lau naman ng Karagatan, si Lisa, the cloud, the data. So, Mahar gave a historical background of the evolution of academic freedom. Ang sabihin niya, Mahalaga para sa mga pamantasan, universities, and academic freedom and institutional autonomy. At kinoot niya ang tatay niya, si Professor Alfredo Lagmay. Ang sabihin, the universities are of strategic importance to different interest groups. Kaya dito pangapasokin siyan sabi ni Boying na hindi mo mahihiwala ay ang usapin ng knowledge, usapin of power. Mahar gave examples of why academic freedom is important for scientists. He mentioned Galileo, Einstein, at kanina sa ating talakayan na mention ang kuwento ni Leonard Ko. Ang sabihin ni Lau, that marine scientists, especially marine scientists, if they are to do good work, they need to feel safe. This is why, because of the abrogation of the UPD and the agreement, para nagbago ang kanilang work environment because instead of focusing on their science, they worry about safety. Ang sabihin niya, Mahalaga, if you focus on the common threats and greater threats, and this is what scientists are doing, you address climate change and also the problem of the depletion of fossil fuels. Si Lisa sa decision and the scientist ang sabihin niya, even in her work, academic freedom is very important. She does evidence-based empirical data-driven policy work. Because for example, her recent paper, she studies poverty. But poverty is not only controversial, it is very political because how we measure poverty influences, how we distribute resources, which is a very political topic. And because their contributions to knowledge happens in this context, academic freedom is very important because academic freedom has allowed not only scientists but social scientists to question convention and look at the many dimensions of a problem. So sa ating discussion kanina and especially highlighted by Boeing ang sabihin niya, again, the contribution of to knowledge of scientists always occurs in a political context. Because if we do not address this, in data science for example, lumalabas ang algorithmic biases, misunderstanding of the relationship between knowledge and power can lead to decisions that can exacerbate inequalities. I think itong nakalaang mga webinar lang natin pinagusapan, alam natin ang important role ng isang pamantasan. The university contributes to knowledge, to policy and solving problems. We've always talked about the value of academic freedom. But I think the important message in this webinar, in today's webinar, is that academic freedom is not only important for activists, those who are in the forefront, or at least what we see as a forefront of the defense of academic freedom. It's not only important for critics of government. It's important for everyone in the university. And dito na highlight importance ng academic freedom in scientific work. So academic freedom is important for all disciplines, not only for activists sabihin niya monson jago. The graduates of UP are everywhere. Not only in the streets, they're in government, they're in different institutions of society, and all of them are proud of the education they receive in UP. And they're proud of the education they receive in UP, whose core principle is academic freedom. So I think we need to defend academic freedom on all fronts, but we need people across different disciplines to speak out of how academic freedom helped nurture them and made them what they are now. All right. Very good. Coming from a deep maroon bench, ito po ng ating webinar. Generational po ito, people, families who value academic freedom. Magpapasalamat po kami sa ating lahat ng panelist ngayon at siguro po naman malahalaga yung mensahe. Respect the data, trust the science at sabihin ng isa nating participant, challenge the convention. Because that is the essence of academic freedom. UP stands for service, integrity, excellence. And I think all our panelists and the webinar speakers before had illustrated well enough that academic freedom can produce excellent results. All right. Salamat po sa inyong lahat. Introduce po lang. Next week po may bagong webinar ulit. Ito naman ang tutok e mga social entrepreneurs kabuhayan para sabayan. Ang moderators po natin next week ay si Ms. Lisa Dakanay at si Dr. Grace Hamon. At ang ating po mga panelist kasama si Dr. Aris Alip, founder ng CARD MRI, Center for Agriculture and Rural Development, mutually reinforcing institutions, Ms. Alvia V. Reyes, co-founder ng Bote Central and Philippine Coffee Alliance, Ms. Rhys Fernandez-Ruiz, co-founder and CEO, Rags to Riches, at ang re-actors si May Anonuevo ng Atikha Overseas Workers Communities Initiative, Mr. Erl Pareño, Chairperson of Alter Trade Foundation, at Mr. Norby Roque Salongga, Director ng Lasallian Social Enterprise for Economic Development. Magpunin yung kalimutan. Webis 1-3 p.m. Ito po ang usapang KP, Kalayaan sa Pamantasan. Maraming salamat sa inyong lahat, ating mga panelist at kait Chancellor, Dr. Fidel Arnevenso. Magandang hapon po. Nag-agap, bukas o nakaraan sa anga pang patutungo. Nag-ugulhan ba ako ngayon? Nag-hijintay na sila. Do ay panagun, ay panahon ng pagharap at pagsulong.