 What's going on guys? Welcome to Rotorat. My name is Alex Van Over and on today's episode I'm gonna be letting the drip and let's fly our C fly my dream setup This is the CL-1 VS which stands for Vanny style I worked with Drew and Andre to make sure we had a lighter weight version of the CL-1 that was a lot more rigid Which helps the quad fly a lot better in the air, but what we're really really excited about is right in here This is the fat tech which runs kiss farmer, which some of you guys who've flown a PV may know but it's a lot better hardware in my opinion and That's what I'm excited to show these guys today. I want to show them just how good my setup flies I'm not gonna try and brag out the props motors or anything like that in my opinion after two years of show Up to Rotorite episodes, you know struggling to have a consistently smooth flying quad I feel like I finally found that setup and I'm very excited about it Can I fly as good with a session as I can with a hero on hypersmooth? That's the test I guess, right? Oh interesting. That's a good test. Because you always fly hypersmooth. Alright, here we go. You have some juice. Okay. Wow. Yeah, that's... There's something different about it. It's really smooth. Does it sound different to you? Yeah, it sounds different like it's not wobbling. Oh my god. Wow. Right? I pulled... I just pulled out of a split S and it didn't like prop wash. Oh my gosh, I can hit the throttle and it's like... It's not like shaking on Betaflight on my quad. Look at this cheeseball face. It's just... the amount of time I have spent... You've been there when I've been complaining. Yeah, you've never stopped talking about kissing. I'm like, yeah, whatever. I'm not flying that garbage. But wow, this is really good. This is really smooth. Like, I don't know. This is so cool. Like, I don't think I've seen a single bit of prop wash the whole time I've been flying. I see what you're saying. Maybe I could fly this without hypersmooth and be happy with the outcome of the footage. Don't you love just being able to advance the throttle and not getting those mid-throttle or full throttle? Yeah, I want to try that thing. Oh my gosh, there's like nothing. There's going to be a lot of people who talk about how Betaflight and Flight 1 can fly this smooth and they're right. I've had Betaflight quads fly amazing. I've had Flight 1 Falco X quads fly amazing. The difference is the consistency has never been there. And it seems like when you fly in a new environment, sometimes the way they fly changes. Kiss, for me, on FetTech gear has been very consistent across the board. And it's smoothness. And it's the easiest to get to fly that smooth. It does it on stock, which Betaflight does not fly this good on stock. No, I don't want to tune anything. I don't want to tune anything. I hate tuning. I don't want to spend the time on it. I just want to fly. And if you've got an awesome tune, then I'll just take yours. Yeah, you can take mine. This is awesome. I actually want to give a quick shout out to Vic FPV. He's one of the guys who is one of the hardest rippers in FPV freestyle, I would say. And he flies FetTech on Kiss. And I was messaging him a few months back and we were talking about it. And he was like, you've got to try it. It's awesome. And he gave me some tuning tips and I want to thank him. It's so much easier to orbit. It just seems like all the tricks that I do normally are easier to do with this. Woo! Through the tree. That was cool. Oh boy, here's some scraggle. And I missed it all. Oh, I did at first and then I didn't. That was a lot of fun. That was really cool. I like that a lot. Yeah, I definitely going to build one of these. After that flight, I'm very hesitant to switch from Betaflight because I'm so familiar with it. Fighting with Betaflight for like six years. I'm very familiar with all the menus and everything. So getting me to switch to another flight controller is going to be really hard. But after flying that, I don't know, man. I literally felt what you were talking about when you said you don't need hypersmooth. You just fly it and I could feel that. Like it was literally smoothing up my movements of my sticks. And I wasn't seeing that jerky motion. I tried to force the jerky motion and I couldn't even force it. It felt like the rates were a little bit lower than what I fly. And that was the only thing that I would complain about probably. If I hit the rates the way that I normally like them, I would probably just love it completely. The way that it flew, the fact that when I pulled out of a dive, it didn't oscillate. I mean, there was just so much great things about it. The last time I used Kiss, every time I descended it would shake on me. And I was just like, nope, I'm done with Kiss and I stopped using their stuff for about three years and I just never wanted to go back. But after that, I mean, it's worth trying, I think, for sure. It's going to feel different, but it's also probably going to feel more powerful because it's 6L. But I'm used to wide arms, which drag more. I'm used to much heavier drones. So this is lighter. I have flown this with the Hero 7 recently. I actually did like the way it flew. I could have definitely tuned it for a little bit of extra weight. But this is tuned for like 630 grams all weight. It's a very, very lightweight drone. So I've been flying Betaflight pretty much since I started flying FPVs. But I started with. I've gotten really familiar with it. I know the system in and out pretty well. I've dabbled with some of the other systems like Flight One and Kiss in the past. And I was just, I don't know, I just never really like cared enough to switch. Kiss specifically, I only tried one time. I thought it flew okay. And then I tried tuning it. And apparently I committed some sin where I changed the filters. The point is it caught on fire. I was going to say, did it catch on fire? It caught on fire. Because I had a lot of Kiss stuff catch on fire in the beginning. And everyone, everyone who knew Kiss and saw me go, well, you're not supposed to do something. How am I supposed to know? I don't know. But either way, it works really well for some people. It's just, it didn't work for me that one time. And I wasn't motivated enough to try it again. But van over won't shut up about the Spectrex stuff. I wish we had like a two year compilation of my misery trying to get a good freestyle quad to fly. Alex won't stop talking about it. You won't stop. Just kiss this and kiss there. And I was not interested in trying it until I saw this. Ready? Have you guys seen this? Look at this. I'm gonna arm it. And then when you disarm it, it makes this out. How cool is that? That whole like. Oh, it's so cool. You have it speak up. I can see the smile. He's trying not to like it. He doesn't want to. It's fine. It's fine, he says. It's fine. I like it. You know, it's just whatever. Yeah, right. I don't buy that. Just do a split-ass. Yeah, do a split-ass and see what you like. What is this? What is this? What is happening? I'm so happy right now. It's good, right? It's so hard to put my finger on it. I don't know what it is. It's smoother. It's like really good. It's really good. I can't make it. Let me just try and do some stupid things. If I just go like. What the? I know. I got a little prop wash. Okay, one. No, that's incredible. There's like no prop wash. Okay, so one of the secrets of being smooth is like when you come out of a split-ass, getting on the throttle early. So right now I'm applying throttle and that's how you fly out of your prop wash. I'm going to break that rule and I'm going to do another split-ass and I'm really just going to like kind of dump it in there and right kind of like, gosh, what? Like doing it like that, waiting that long to add in the throttle forces you into dirty air like and that's what makes split-ass is not smooth. It's weird like that I could get away with that. It is worth knowing that Drew is flying a lower latency 2.4 system. You fly crossfire normally. This is TBS tracer, which is a 3.5 millisecond, I think, 2.4 latency. In my experience on this quad, that's not what made the difference in terms of smoothness necessarily, but it definitely is nice. I feel like I can feel the responsiveness. So I don't know like how much of what I'm feeling is Oh, there's power lines. I know some of what I'm feeling is that decreased latency and I wouldn't have thought it would make such a big difference, but I can feel it. But also there's just like, like I feel like when I move my fingers, the drone moves. Do like a slow increase of full throttle and experience no shakes. Nothing. Yeah. It's nice, right? So one thing that I'm notorious for but what if I just like punch it? Okay. So you get a little bit of that bunny hop. Yeah. Okay, so you get that bunny hop. The eye of stock though on this quad. So maybe with a little bit of eye-term tuning you could get rid of some of that bunny hop. But I do like, I mean that sort of jabbing is something that I avoid anyway. It's really counter to my style where I want to be smooth. So let me do what I would, what I would say would be like the most aggressive throttle add. Let me like pull out of a dive. So I'll like kind of like dive this tree and wait till the last minute. Whoosh. I got a little bunny hop. There's a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. But I think that can be tuned out. My PIDs are tuned, but the filters are stock. I think I raised roll P and pitch a little bit and then I increased the D term a little bit as well. I'm gonna try a little bit of that. And that was it. On stock PIDs, I flew this thing. Beautiful. What? Isn't it nice? I'm just like dancing up in here. Whoop. Whoop. Whoop. Just gonna do that. All right. The battery is probably about to crash. No, it's not. It's fine. It's fine. You're flying a dumb crossover too. It's pretty smooth. What? You hear how smooth it is? Oh, there's a pole there. Oh, but it's in there. You just won't stop flying. The battery is really dying and you're just thinking. What? Are you seeing what's happening here? Okay. Yeah, this battery's toasted. One, this one. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, right. It's fine. I'm gonna get the call. Guys, when you have a quad that flies well, you know this. You naturally push it. Yeah. You naturally push it. I was having a good time with that. Can you use? Do you have to use FedTech ESCs? No. You can run the FedTech FC. It also integrates with KISS. Do you think you'd still get that good of performance out of it? I don't know. I don't think so. So the secret sauce is the ESCs? Yeah. There's a bill video for this exact same setup. So if you guys want to have this same experience, be sure to check out the Road Riot Store, check out the bill video. I don't want to waste time tuning. I've spent so many hours tuning a quad. I just want to take your tune and just fly it. So I'm good. You just tune it. You would do all of what you want to do. Link in the description to Alex's tune. So if you have the setup. At the end of the day, go out, fly, enjoy the hobby. Have fun. Fly with some pals and just enjoy the hobby. I still got some sunlight here. So let's get out and rip. 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