 This is the SF Productions podcast network Time for the old superhero media roundup from the pop culture bunker in Indy and I'm Mark You can check out our audio podcast how I got my way three comics on iTunes or on our website SF podcast network calm So there's a number of things going on in the superhero movie in TV space So I thought we should cover them just in one one shot one fell swoop. Yeah The flash movie has just lost its second director Seth Graham Smith co-wrote the movie and was attached originally to direct but then demurred Now dope director That's the movie. He's in the dope Rick Fama Jeeja has left over creative differences Now the movie's still in pre-production Although they haven't passed their flash, right, you know because When a director leaves a project, this usually means the studio doesn't support their vision Yeah, and then their translation of that is a the director in production are out of control And at this point it wouldn't necessarily be that because they're not in production yet On B the studio is delusional the director with notes that would ruin the movie that would ruin at least their Vision of the movie and it's pretty likely. It's that B Yeah, the flash movies already working at a disadvantage Because it's going to inevitably be compared to the successful TV show. Yes, of course That's earth one and you know the movie will be earth To earth M for a movie. I don't know Of course, it's all moot if production doesn't start until after the Justice League movie comes out Because W the Warner Brothers You know will expect The Justice League movie to make a billion dollars the first weekend and if it doesn't they will cancel all the future movies Yeah, you would expect that and now apparently the actor playing flash already has another commitment for another movie So now they're gonna have to wait till after that other movie is done So the flash movie gets pushed pushed back. Maybe that's in fact what Warner Brothers wanted could well be Meanwhile The director of Deadpool Tim Miller has dropped out of the sequel over creative differences with the star Ryan Reynolds Out of control actor munch Hey, Ryan stay with the guy. I got you there Also the composer of the original Deadpool movie junkie XL has dropped out in solidarity with Miller Oh, no, who will drop the beat? Back in the DC universe the Wonder Woman movie is looking better than ever based on the most recent trailer There's kicking ass. There's swords. There's the lasso. There's bullets versus bracelets They're pretty much checking all the boxes and there's no danger of this being canceled since production is already complete And it comes out before the Justice League movie comes out Despite mediocre reviews and what I thought would have had a script to match Suicide Squad has made a lot of money for Warner Brothers $324 million US box office 420 million internationally and There has been a ton of merchandise Absolutely, that's and it hasn't made it to blu-ray yet as of this taping So you can assume there's a Harley Quinn spin-off movie in three two one Now I know Harley Quinn started off as a kid's character Yes, but it's really hard to equate that with the Harley Quinn in this movie And I would be hard-pressed to let my kid dress up like a Harley Quinn anymore and yet there were a lot of them for Halloween Meanwhile the DC TV universe is going very strong Reportedly making Warner Brothers One billion dollars in revenue this past year because you've got so many shows. Yes, you've got flash You've got Arrow Supergirl Legends tomorrow iZombie Gotham Lucifer Preacher and Teen Titans go the animated series coming up powerless which we've talked about before it's the DC universe sitcom and Krypton which is going to talk about the grandfather of Kal-El on Krypton So it's kind of like Gotham in a way. Yeah, it's the before I don't see that one. No much, but and then in development already. There's a black lightning TV series There's a static shock live action series and there's a scalped which scalp is one of the vertigo titles They're their imprint. Yeah, so that counts Flash is the CW's top rated show although it only got a 1.3 share in the 18 to 49 demo But for CW that's very good And I think this is the show that best captures the classic DC Comics craziness Yeah, if I had to pick out one of the shows to watch it would be that one Although it only really seems to work well when there's an ongoing villain and not so much the villain of the week I mean it's starting in terms of the storyline moving forward Yeah, yeah, you know the otherwise it kind of seems a little disjointed from from episode to episode at least my opinion Supergirl at least so far hasn't seemed to have suffered much after moving from See the CBS to the CW as well as the move to Vancouver Except for the loss of Kat Grant played by Callista Flockhart who didn't want to move to Canada for the show I am not liking it as well just personally, but that's only me. Yeah, well It's never been the best show to begin with. It's okay And I think you're right. It's like aliens are taken over and there's too many aliens the whole alien nation thing they have going on basically Arrow continues to plug along Although I'm really getting tired of flashbacks uses plotline helper. Yes They've decided to add Talia Agul to the show played by Lexa doig as Oliver continues to act as Batman light Yeah Lessons tomorrow still doesn't have a lead. Yes, it's an ensemble. I understand but you need to have a lead Yeah, I think you do so Rory. I'm sorry rip Hunter was supposed to be that in season one But now he's gone. I'm sorry to see Rory. I mean rip Hunter girl Yeah, that's hard because there is actually a character named Rory. Yeah Yeah, like most time travel shows changing the past has consequences except when it doesn't All the CW shows suffer from the need for soapy elements. Yes, the whole will they or won't they and it's like oh come on You know you have that when you don't have something else to fall back on I suppose We will get another crossover among the main CW DC shows arrow flash supergirl legends Featuring old DC alien villains the dominators in a plot that reportedly goes back to a late 80s comic book plotline called invasion Plus some sort of musical episode is coming now the leads for supergirl and flash were both on glee and Three other cast members from the various shows are Broadway vets. So it kind of makes sense Well, and um the CW kind of has a history with that too, so even going back as far as the musical episode of Buffy I suppose Over in the Marvel TV universe the Netflix shows are doing better both in terms of reviews and viewer interest Then agents of shield and ABC Which continues to walk this tightrope? Is it a secret agent show? Is it a superhero show? You go too far one way and nobody watches it you go too far the other way and the show is too expensive to actually work financially Leaving shield in this twilight zone where nobody satisfied Ratings for the show are actually lower than flash Which for an ABC show is really bad if you know if Disney slash Marvel didn't own ABC It would long since be gone. I think yeah Would Marvel consider a cameo by a Netflix character on shield to bump up and there's a lot of You know supposition going on about that would they consider that I think it would Only really help shield and it could hurt say daredevil's street cred or any of the other characters Yeah to slum it on shield. Well, they don't really fit too well, but it's all supposedly in the same universe Now maybe foggy nelson shop stops by shield HQ You know one of the side characters you can get away with And we have no idea how well the Netflix shows are doing Since Netflix refuses to provide any stats because they say look we don't care how many you know We don't sell commercials. So we don't care about the ratings. Yeah, we care about how many people subscribe to Netflix You know where that's where they make their money. They don't care as you said about the advertising because there isn't it So you have to assume though. They're at least paying themselves They wouldn't make anymore right and they are making further seasons of these. Yep I am looking forward to finally seeing the defenders. Yes. That's next year Of course, we got to still catch up on well, I gotta catch up on Daredevil. We the second season We still got cage. We got to get through that season. Yeah, and by the time we do that Well, iron fist is gonna be between there, too, right? And maybe another season of Jessica Jones. Yes so Oh and a Punisher Series as well. I think Netflix is the best Shows for superheroes right now. I don't know maybe just cuz they're darker. I thought I don't normally like dark I don't know right. It'll be interesting to see how those DC movies do We will be going to watch them. Yep, and you can too. Yep Meanwhile, check out our audio podcast how I got my wife to read comics and iTunes or on our website as a podcast network.com From the pop culture bunker, I'm Indy and I'm Mark. Thanks for watching I'm off to binge