 for people coming there. I can start? Yeah, it's actually really tight. Okay, it's recording, so we now start. Hello everybody! This is my daughter Ping, which I would like to introduce in this talk, besides other things. And, well, I noticed that in this year's DevCon, there were a lot of kind of history talks. And I turned 50, two months ago, maybe this is one reason to make some history, my grandson turned two years, two days ago, and I want to talk about two women now, which mean a lot to me. But first, I would like to introduce myself. Who am I and what's my wife. And then I want to give some good reasons, or some reasons why my wife could be jealous about Devian. And if it's about jealousy and marriage, usually you have children and wife and so I... How did I got the daughter thanks to Devian? Well, this is actually the woman I met more than 30 years ago. I decided to spend my life with her, then I already get it. And I would like to explain what you can do to make your family also not forget to met your geeks are a little bit strange. And this changes, for instance, started in my case, Mrs. Please rise your arms. Who knows this? Okay. Who doesn't know it? Who has never rise his arms? Who is not awake? Ah, okay. Takes some coffee, then we continue. So, punching cards, this was well, about half a year I touched the computer with punching cards you don't need to touch it, but it occupies well, the morning when you prepare a job in the evening when you get the results, so I cut it from the day before work and after work. Okay. This was the first thing my wife had to be very tolerant. The next thing I was doing some practice in some I never touched this kind of computer it's kind of PDP11 but one day my wife intended to cook for me, she was at home and had a spare day and I forgot I just forgot all the computer, so can you imagine? But anyway she decided to marry me and I'm really happy about this. So, and then later I got my first nice son I have only one real son and my wife said she was pregnant with her son and I was pregnant with our first PC computer, right? We have this PC computer a little bit later now, he is entertaining this and he also got kind of a hacker later. Now my relationship with AVI started I was seeking for some kind of Linux distribution and well, you know we all started with Slackware and so something, but then I needed to install a computer which was very weak and which had only this capacity to mount VRNFS and I was not the installer that supported this and so Susan G Klein when I never met this woman but somehow when I started even it was this woman she compiled three times a kernel just for me sent it via email, I installed with this kernel and finally I managed so and so I decided well, if somebody is that engaged and is caring for me that much, that must be the right distribution and this was somehow my engagement with Debian and well, what was a marriage I started to contribute and usually Debian contribution means you fix something which is missing and in this case it was missing the package world that nobody knows, this is a monolingual dictionary was not maintained anymore, it was intelligent to be dropped, it was at this time in 1998 it's a case that would be dropped and so I decided to become the maintainer, but it was a little bit complex for me and so I started with something simple, but this is XTeddy, who knows XTeddy it just acute had to move around the desktop and I wanted to make it more and I added some extra, this is one of the pets of my son, the Pinguin it's free software, you can add something so later, way later I started packaging what my colleagues might need you know me from this Debian but this is not the topic of talk today and I think in a partnership two sides complete each other, Debian really provides a lot and I decided just to contribute my small share the wedding was in 1998 it was confirmation that I got a Debian developer account I had never expected that I later would stand here in front of the audience of Debian conference so it was I was just happy that I had uploads rights for two or three packages but it just became more and then well the honeymoon was somehow at Debian conference 0 formally I met only one Debian developer, I had not even cross key checking also this was not last year at this time I met at holidays when Luther in Strasbourg this was the first holiday with my wife in France we met somebody but as I said I met the real crew of Debian developers Debian 0 and I had several other events I would like to make a small report about it so you know Debian is one event which is very special and I met other conferences which my wife liked more because she at least in parts was together with me please give a big applause to my wife because she always tolerates what I do yes, this was not Debian 0 but Debian 1 I see at least one face from this picture here in the room yours and me and there are several others here at Debian conference we were really young this was some other fun too much longer is also here at Debian conference there was another event which moved me a lot that was showing me that Debian is a willing family you see this t-shirt about morons I'm surrounded by morons it looks offensive but I'm wearing it if it's a little bit touching because the first Debian developer who died was Joey Eastpike Klecker he died at the age of 21 nobody was aware that he was in the middle and basically Debian was his life he was coding from the bed he was not able to move he was just doing all the scenes in his life and I think six weeks before he died he just wrote an email sorry guys I can't can't do my work anymore this was a very sad moment because nobody was aware of this and this touched me a lot okay so back to the nice things after Debian 3 in Oslo we did some holiday this was the only Debian conference my family was joining me but not actually joining I was on the Debian conference they did day trips we enjoyed no way afterwards this was the open source world conference in Malaga also nice event I know some people from Malaga are also here in the conference and yes for sure Vidae is always on the conference I don't mention this and this was a mini Debian conference in Beijing, I was the first time in Asia and the interesting thing in this Debian conference you see there is also a Microsoft conference there but we have the very larger advertising you know it's three types of launch and also met some people here who also attended this conference now the nice things the Diplo software meetings this is also a nice meeting in France but more relaxed than that conference all my wife enjoyed this this is in Amiens really nice city and when I say I'm married with Debian people I go also with the beach with all these people in Malaga what they call winter it's not really winter in Malaga but it's actually Argentinian winter and please look at the guy with the kilt going in wintertime in Argentina to the beach with the kilt I think this was kind of an event right we had a lot of fun at least three people of this picture are here and again I went to Malaga to some open source world conference also nice event and afterwards I spent my life in Spain very nice I give this hint to you if you want to accept your partner that you are moving around just try to show the world a bit this was the Diplo software meeting in Nantes you see this small hacker guy is grown up meanwhile this was the point with Pazares I was stealing the DPL beer from the from the bottle of sepul it was fun, I do not really drink beer but this was fun and I was invited to a Duke conference in 2010 in Alcavunia and we did some some holiday before in Santiago de Compostela in Galicia very nice, we liked it a lot and we were also invited to MiniDampCon from Paris you see DBAM is also trouble in the world I was on lots of places of the world these other nice ones now I come to the most favorite depth conference of my life this is depth conference 2010 in New York thanks to the video team for recording everything this is depth conference 2012 in Malaga again thanks to the video team for recording it this is depth conference 2014 from the external HegLab I am using the scenic HegLab sign from depth conference 2013 because it is my home is a scenic HegLab I just like it and finally depth conference Cape Town this was the most favorite depth conference of my life because we are watching extended family now it has a very interested potential fewer 10-year of further depth conference yes now you see I am grandfather and for some joke before I turn grandfather we started a potential grandfather's project potential grandfather's means you have a child that could have a child because we grandfathered at this time probably was some she's a white party you know Christian Perrier and so we had some fun and I advertised this as an April Fool's joke and this shows also some kind of misunderstandings that can happen in Davion because Bob Heyard it actually was somebody I was connected with my first package and I projected and it was very sad because he is actually a grandfather and he took this joke serious and we were not happy this was a little bit sad to me even his son is Davion developer so we had a grandfather father couple inside Davion and there was another misunderstanding I was pointed out that we should not exclude grandmothers yes that's true I now know that we even have potential grandmothers in Davion I am not sure if we have real grandmothers but potential grandmothers so you see Davion is fun as in any normal partnership then I turned to really grandfather it was the day before I went to DevCon 15 and I interrupted DevCamp for one day to take this photo and now we come to the point where I met the very nice lady who became later my daughter Min, do you want to say something now? not really good at expression my thought but I was saying I am happy that I got one more father to father in vietnamese it's not hard for me to say father means father in vietnamese I am her father and we met her in a city partnership meeting and exchanged emails so far nothing happened but then we had to burn another loss in Evia because some people might know her because the name sounded familiar to me because she was translating everything was not able to escape what translated by her there is no real sentence very specific and she also died and this announcement I said well it would be nice if a vietnamese woman which was very active would be translated into vietnamese and so my idea was hey there was this kind lady maybe she would like to translate and I asked her for translation and for us later I got the email sorry for the sad story but she was trying to attach for the vietnamese translation and I'm happy that I can help you with something good night I think this is the mail that I like it was kind it was precise it was helpful I liked it a lot and maybe he likes to talk something about how she received this email from me because she is not a computer expert how about the memory before answering your question that I usually call me Dory something in my life that is really hard to forget and I never want to forget that is kind of a forgetful memory that very first time that I met under us in the country but at that time we didn't know that later they become my adaptive current you can see that it's kind of magic in my life and it's for a really nice to talking with them at first met and I'm sitting in my office under us need for help translation a sad view of Vietnamese it's not Vietnamese but a country view talk at that time I kind of recent refused just a nice friend at that time you can see under us it's a very nice person and my friend but I don't know how a friend is going to be a father later that's always you never know how it develops but at this point in time I also would not have known how it might develop and well the next step was somehow that means started to translate more because I explained a bit and then finally she became proud of us to go to Depcon also Paul Weiss suggested her to go and so you also need to know she is not an IT person at all she has no idea what she might mean you see just working at the city government of our twin town and that's all and it took some time to get her to Germany and I need to thank the Depcon Pfizer team also the government of my hometown learning abroad because they wrote also some letters to the government of Hoi An to let me go who is a person who is running a really nice restaurant in Berlinga Road quite famous in the city and around and she did all the things with the partnership and our first travel but without her these talk would not happen today and also thanks to my spare time I had because I need to recover from some need surgery and finally we arrived in Heidelberg I think a couple of people were in Heidelberg do you want to say something how you felt in Heidelberg yeah but before it's my flash about how the Depcon 15 that I want to say something like is how I get to know Debian first but when you send me an email that has the translation of the news then before I got that email I didn't know what is Debian so surely I have no idea about that some project on Debian is this and when I translated news I started on the internet something about Debian and that's the very first time I knew Debian and from time to time I get more information about Debian and then when you ask me if I want to join to be a contributor and then I never imagined that I could go abroad to Germany to Europe but you ask me to apply for the sponsorship but actually at that time I didn't think that I could get the sponsorship because I know that my contribution to Debian is just very little but at that time I translated to news and I was not confident that I could go to Germany for the Debian Comp 15 from Germany to Vietnam I still never imagined that I was there and I got a lot of nice memories there though you didn't spend much time with me but I spent my time to talk to the video team to talk to other friends and even if it's like I told you that it's kind of magical that I got an adaptive other than I got more friends and they are really nice and lovely people that even like last year yet last year that I met now from Germany and then from the United States they came to Hoi An and we have a we saw each other again not in Germany but in Vietnam that's awesome and we had really nice time together and entitlement that's kind of you know it's my very first time traveling abroad and I think it's very new to me that's the point that's the very first time that I saw the echo tree I think the reason that you got the support is also that you are from a country we don't have so many contributors that we are women is also one point and that you volunteer to be your team to do something we also pay attention to what we assumed you can do and so you finally did it so the decision to sponsor you was perfectly alright I got to know more about I wrote to you that I have no IT background I learned a little bit more and I got help from some developer I remember that later I will tell you but there are also some like Vietnamese individuals that also help me and they are very patient because I don't know anything there are some like chicken breast I don't know they are so nice I will tell the people how you learned it impressed me always if I think about it I'm really impressed because first you see she also enjoyed the day trip we were renting a bike there and we did some biking tour and this is one of the moments that impressed me the most because what you see here is the laptop I have given me this is the first time she is touching a Nino's laptop at all it's 5 days I don't know and on the left is and he is introducing me into CVS WML and all the stuff she needs to understand to be a combat translator it's about in one hour introduction and I admit my brain would start to have boiling if somebody would approach me with all this stuff which I have never heard about well to say the truth I was sitting here in front of this and said no this will not be good but on the next day we were sitting next to be started translating so I was really really impressed this is how engaged she was and how she really managed and after that we went to our home and this is another moment I don't forget because when we were sitting to train from Heidelberg to my home she said well my dad was not really happy that I am going to Germany and then we started slowly thinking and said well we are some people from a western country have met a young Vietnamese woman for about 2 or 3 hours and then we paid her whole flight for staying and this is some kind of a pattern which could really wrong and once I realized this I said well ok I am now your dad to Germany I will care for you nothing will happen for you and this is I really like this role to be her dad so I never gave up and my wife also liked it a lot we have invited her to our home we have served her with some very things she has never known before we also try to introduce her into cheese but the cheese at the party was probably the worst moment for me because she can't eat cheese oh anyway we had some fun at all right do you want to say something Lin or should we continue yeah so by this chance I want to say thank you again to Philip the one who to know how to do with the translation and he is really nice but I don't know if he is showing the depth arm 17 no the depth arm Philip is not here at depth arm I haven't seen him but maybe he will come next year next year you also need to be at your house someone there I would continue now with the next step in our partnership because in 2016 we also went again to Vietnam and this is means bar we are together rowing the boat I learned how to row it worked and we have some tradition to do some umbrella photos you know this is at my place and this is at her place Min is also dedicated to that she is doing photos in Italy this was also for her it was the conference because if you once have proven that you turn back to your country then it's easier to get a visa so she visited other friends in Italy she also met like us in front of the Colosseum and finally five weeks ago we went again to Vietnam to really fulfill was the role of parents to be at her marriage and I need to admit I was well at some point in time playing this man in bar role was a joke but Min took it really honest really really invited as parents I think this was cool you see the opera to say the truth it was hot it was really hot and after 30 minutes I was totally wet then it doesn't come off it's okay so we were really fulfilling the role as bar and bar and I'm having a speech on stage as it's only doing the parents your husband is translating me at this event there are two marriages in Vietnam if you really like I can do in the evening some report about this just ask me and at the other marriage Min was translating it was some kind of moving moment we have no video recording because our camera said oh no it's too hot I switch off so Min do you want to say something do you want do you want to just remind Min a lot maybe I continue just so I see you are moved these are the some kind of wedding images and I need to say these two women they do a coalition against me and make always fun of me I don't know if I like this but yes okay I like the two and this is the other day this is this kind of photos is only for children and parents so you can't say more we are really parents and really like this and because I see a father should always give something valuable I even gave my baby a knife so this is hard for me you know there aren't any more these don't exist and it was not really planned because her husband is also starting to send it to Dewey maybe we see them on the two and in next step conf in Taiwan and at other step conf I'm known as a man who plans that Dewey and me and this step conf I'm known as a man with the photos and this is just because Min can't come for personal reasons and I need to say that the funding was granted for her also for this step conf so thanks to Dewey again for confirming that she could come in principle it's really great and yes my wife spent too much time on the wedding so she has no specifications and so both are not here but they are here with me in my heart and on the photos yes and well finally I'd like to say that Dewey does not really simply find my work but I love it but it's really enrich my life you see my wife is very happy so travelling and so and I have found the daughter which was most missing I just have a son and yeah it's a typical way we say goodbye to each other on the upload and I really hope you will lift her up again as soon as possible yeah do we want to say some final words before we have some questions for the audience thank you thank you again thank you for your friends I want you to everyone you can find your family here and even your friends here I really love the conversation that my world is better since you are in it much much better if you are in it and just be in it thank you so much yes thank you as well so do you have any questions you can answer together do you know some similar stories that I just so no questions everybody is happy as I said if you are interested I have also some pictures from the wedding so two days ago I did some report about in China who might have missed it Phil there is a question well not really a question I just really like to thank you for putting this together it's brought back old memories some quite painful and it's reminded me how much I was looking forward to meeting me again so hopefully you will come next year yeah I really hope that you will come next year thank you for the comments we have another comment this is a question for me what have you done about working before meet Andreas and Vivian what who about work or studies have you understood the question what was your work before you met me what's your profession translator the city government the city of in your job now to move to the next city I have like last week that last week I can't imagine if I would be an employer I would take you as an employee more questions otherwise we can stop now thanks a lot Min it was a pleasure to talk together with you next time I really like to be here on stage it's easier to actually work then in computer it's easier to stand in front of a lot of people yeah thank you