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No, it's not magic This fucking guy He's uh, he's a speed reader where he like, uh, he looks at just the whole paragraph and then he moves on to the next Paragraph. He doesn't actually read word for word like Johnny five. Yeah. Yeah. No, what's not that? You know what it is. It's okay. So I was wondering what this is going to be like. Let's all be straight up Okay, let's all be honest now, uh You guys you guys know my ad it's a legit issue like I it's very hard I was a little concerned for you like let's like when we have meetings you guys make jokes about me all the time Uh, but you know, we have meetings. I'm like it's very very hard for me to I have to like stand walk around Very very hard. So all right. So here's what has a little background, right? So The book that I wrote is almost ready. It's almost ready to be sold and the the last some of the last stuff that we need to do besides finishing the editing and all that stuff is I Read the book and do the audio portion and authors Usually hire somebody to read the book because just because you can write doesn't mean you can speak and They hire actors for that they do and there's professionals that do it But you know, I'm a podcaster it would be stupid for someone to buy my book and then not hear my voice I'm known for my voice or you know, for the few people I do British guy So I'm like I got to read it, right? But this requires me or required me to sit down Actually, you sat in your chair, Justin So if you're wondering why your seat is uh, is a little smells like olive oil or why he had Mike smells like ass Wow Anyway, so uh, I sat there and the So smells like my mom Sorry mom. Why uh, no, I so I had to sit in your chair and Hold an iPad and I read the book from 9 a.m. To 3 p.m Straight from have you ever have you ever read a book in two and a half days before? I I mean, I yeah when I'm really into it, but there's so different to to read a book and and read it out loud Into the mic or talk and do it right and you got to you know, you're not you're not I don't think I've ever read a book in two days. Maybe I was in here maybe four or five days, but two days That's crazy. Yeah, so and I'm but it's straight, right? I'm reading straight I have to after you know when you're reading you remember the person's listening to you So not like I'm just going, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that's boring I got to read it and talk and emphasize and voices. Yeah, not Like characters like when I read to my son, I remember when I trained you have moments of treks like little like swear words Yeah, I remember when I trained my client Sharon and Sharon asked me hey Sal What no, I didn't do that right? I didn't change my voice So how did he how many times because they okay? I know Doug was in here in studio There's somebody from the publishing company hashet right company. We're working with and he's listening in and then you'll stop me If I pronounce a word wrong, which I tend to do Thank god I was Back up A thousand more times, please my uncle asked me why I didn't write a book. I said that's why I didn't write He's got to write your own like webster's dictionary Like a key that comes with it So I so he'll stop me Oh, you said that a little fast or you slurred your word there or whatever or I'll do it myself I'll read a sentence and I'll just go back and read it over So it was 9 a.m. To 3 p.m. And um, I didn't know what to expect I've never done anything like that before and I was actually nervous because again, I had It's so hard to focus like that. I thought I was gonna go crazy. I was exhausted dude at the end of the day I was so tired. I went home. Did you not talk when you got home? No, well, I was my kid it was just me and the older kids remember Jessica was visiting her mom So but normally when I come home, I'm like going on walks with the kids going to the park taking my workouts I came home and I'm like you guys want to watch tv? Yeah, yeah, just like zone out. No, we're gonna relax But uh, no, it was it was great, dude. I actually uh, I don't want to say enjoyed it But it was cool the guy that was listening in Was super cool. He loved everything I was saying which was cool is very encouraging Um, so it was it was it was a cool experience How often did he have to get you to say something over again? Did you did you mess up? I don't know how often would you say he had to stop me often or I mean I stopped myself way more than he did Yeah, he did occasionally mainly for Pronunciation I would say or like you said earlier maybe slurring something together jumbling some words. Yeah, because I was drunk Drunk with power, you know what I said wrong what? Actually, now I don't know how to say it a dina sign try phosphate atp, right? He said, how do I say it? No, or did I just say it right? I don't know I also you had to look at a dinner scene a dinner scene. I think is the right way to say it Yeah, so you had a guy on there that knew how to say things like that That's what he does. That's what he does He's like an expert at uh pronunciation in English I didn't even think about that that they would have to find somebody who had that's versed in like, you know, because that's Right, you could pronounce a lot of things really really well And then you get into like You know supplements and the and the in the words and the chemicals and that's like my field So I didn't even think I said wrong right and he stopped he goes is that I don't know Are you sure that's how you say it? I'm like, I don't know We looked it up and you know google lets you hear the word how it's supposed to be said I was like, oh, that's wrong Oh, wow interesting. Yeah, so it's cool. The guy was super awesome as soon as we because he's on zoom, right? So Doug had a computer set up. I can see him And he's muted unless he he interjects or whatever did he expect you to be more buff since you wrote a book about lifting weights Yeah, he's like you got he's like, uh, where's the guy that wrote this book? It looks like you try Have you read your own book? He says Yeah, are you gonna work out when the book comes out so people think No, I I he's in his house or whatever and in the background He had a big picture of uh, Frederick Douglass is one of my heroes. So right away I'm like, I like you I told him that like is that Frederick Douglass in the bag is like, absolutely And then we became friends after that. Yeah, but it was he was cool. It was fun. I'm really excited I'm really excited for this book to come out. It's definitely um, if you're in fitness if you're into fitness and you're a fanatic This book is gonna help you communicate Uh, the help you communicate fitness the right way and it's the perfect thing to give someone that you've been trying to talk Into doing things the right way selling it to like your friends and family That's the hardest part effectively and it's of course. It's about resistance training And uh, and so that's the whole purpose of it. Anyway, a lot of fun. It was it was really really hard I was super nervous, but we finished the day early Yeah, I remember surprise. I did not think that was gonna happen. Yep I remember I was asking you before you started I said what happens if you don't finish in time They just extend it. Uh-huh, but you got it knocked out and that's with stopping too. Yeah. Wow. Yeah That's really impressive. I'm pretty amazing Oh I don't know if I want to do it again. Oh, but anyway, hey, did you guys this has got it? This things are getting silly nowadays. Uh, did you guys hear about the mr. Potato head can stuff? Yes I saw connor talking about it. What are you? They got rid of mr They wanted to make it. Sorry. That was a weird laugh. They wanted to make it gender neutral Yeah, yeah, what it's a potato Yeah, okay, I had a mr. There was a missed potato head. First of all, yeah, they're gonna hurt first of all He identifies as a mister. That's a good point There was it. There was a missus potato. Yeah, they wanted to make it gender neutral But he identifies as a mister forever since day one. Yeah, and it's a potato. It's a fictional character. What the fuck? Anyway, they reversed it. They're they're gonna keep it mr. Potato head. Oh, they did. Yeah. Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's that's a big deal Yeah, that's a good thing. What do you call it? Just put potato head That's what it was. That's what they were gonna do. I thought it was missus. So I thought I already went I didn't know that they they reversed it, huh? No, they reversed it. They were just talking about it They announced it. Okay. Everybody got pissed off. Okay. They announced it or was it one of these things that we No, they did we gotta be careful of where like some internet troll brought it up I feel like all these things are trolls and then it just becomes repeated because there's another thing with like is it true Like coke was, you know hammering their employees for being too white. Yeah, no, you saw that. I saw that Yeah, that has to be fake. No, that's not a real video. Oh, it is. No, it is not That's called critical race theory. That is not the one that the video of the of this the freaking Bears and then he gives them a no, no, no, that's not that's what I thought the polar bears Yeah, the polar the polar bears give him a coke and he says be less white. No, that was a joke on what actually happened Okay, so what what really happened critical race theory is this? Yeah, no, I understand that But what does that have to do with coke? It was a training course that they did for their employees And it was talking about essentially Had to be less white because being white apparently racist according to Critical race theory and it was I mean very racist the way it came across And so people were kind of up in arms about it and I did not know this. Yeah, it was a real thing. Had to be less white What? What do you do? I said, okay, so I've seen you. I don't need some artists. I've seen some artists making songs So that must be why so this just happened then. You're right. Let's stop it Just just stop all this stop with all this stuff. Step one. Get a tan. Yeah, step two. Don't eat mayonnaise. Oh, sorry Walk right in. Oh, and you know, I'll just see my way out. Did you guys read the Men's health article that came out about orange theory. Oh, yeah, you showed us that boy Yeah, I was trying I was gonna ask dug I meant to ask him what episode was it when we first talked about orange theory and the epoch theory Do you remember when that was? I'm sorry, but my memory isn't that sharp. How far I mean, obviously not the exact world, but it was it's been a long time. He is old. I mean, it's It was it was in I think it was in the hundreds. It was early. It was way early Yeah, it was really so for people who don't know because we have a lot of listeners that came in way after that, right? You worked with the first ones in the Bay Area. You were an integral part of them So, you know the ins and out of orange theory like, you know, very well Yeah, right and the first thing and I'll never forget the first meeting like training me that I had and they in fact And in the men's health article, they talk about this how They came out with, you know, really pushing the epoch and the afterburn theory and that you burned all these extra Calories throughout the day because you pushed really hard In your workout and we knew about this. This was this got really popular. I want to say in like the early 2000s Yeah, because there was a study that came out that showed that so epoch represents the The afterburn right so excess post oxygen consumption. Yeah, so you burn a bunch of calories in your workout But based on how you work out your body then will burn additional calories Then it normally would for hours after the workout not just hours 24 hours, right? And they're saying oh, this is a big deal epoch is why orange theory is so effective Makes you burn those extra calories that kind of stuff. Yes. And so we and again We were I remember when this study went around back and I believe it was the early 2000s when it got really popular And um, you know, we were all jumping on the bandwagon We were all doing hit and pushing circuit training and that was a big deal And then later on uh research came out to basically poo poo the idea that it really is it's it's splitting hairs The difference is chasing the burn. Yeah, and most your benefits of doing cardiovascular training happen while you're doing it And the afterburn effect is minimal to nothing at most at most And I thought it was really interesting that this brand that was exploding out of you know Out of florida made its way over here and and is in this the late 2000s Was attaching themselves to this kind of old science And I remember being in the training and talking to all the trainers and my buddy who owned the facility and You know, they're touting epoch and telling everybody the afterburn effect And I'm going, you know, you guys know you got to find something to to go with their tech No, totally got to find something to base it off of it's a great. Whoa. Look at it 273. Yeah, so in 2016 we talked about Yeah epoch 1500 now the way. Yeah, we're way way back the the the men's health is slow, obviously Yeah, I know behind epoch is uh for marketing purposes. It's brilliant, right because you you do you start this brand The when the method, you know orange theory classes are hit circuit based It's what they are So what a great way to sell your workouts to differentiate them from other workouts Other classes burn calories But our our classes burn extra calories after the workout and it's epoch and going in the orange zone or whatever Is what does it? So it's very very smart marketing But it doesn't the science doesn't stack up at all. It's like you said, it's It's more than splitting hairs Well, and then then the problem is that that that really I think bother me and you guys too when we talked about, you know Circuit training is the opposite of what most these people need So that was the real problem that I had with it So aside from this being bad old science and attaching your entire brand around that that's already bad as it is And then that modality of training just from my experience of all the clients that I've trained I would never train them that way. It's just not ideal Most of them need to build to rebuild their metabolism Most of them are were these are the type of people the type of people that are drawn in this class Are the cardio bunnies are the people that love to do the circuit training love to do this On and off the wagon with their diets and it is not helping the cause whatsoever. No, and okay here This is the big conversation that it's not happening yet, but it will happen Hopefully we're the ones pushing it but even if we're not it's going to happen You can view exercise your workouts two different ways, right? One way is the calories being burned while i'm working out The other way is what are the adaptations that this workout is causing and then what are the side effects Of those adaptations good or bad So if your goal is to burn more calories, I can either burn them manually Or I can train adaptations That will make my my body burn more calories on its own Now obviously one of them is way better of an approach Especially long term the other one is super short term requires a lot of time a lot of effort And it's not very effective a hard one hour workout By the way, your cardio machines are lying to you So if you go on cardio machine and you do an hour it's like you burn 900 calories total bullshit Oh, yeah, you're lucky. You're lucky if you burn an extra 500 calories in an hour workout If you're really going hard right intense right 500 calories. You're lucky That's a lot of work a lot of sweat a lot of what now could you speed your metabolism up Through training the proper adaptations Aka building muscle getting stronger. Could you get your metabolism to burn 500 extra calories on its own? Totally realistic. In fact, I've done that with almost every client that I've ever trained in fact So, you know, you guys have heard me bring up the Hadza tribe before right, which is this okay? So again real quick It's a modern hunter-gatherer tribe Scientists went down and these are hunter-gatherers. They're moving all the time In comparison to the average modern society westerner They're moving way more right. They're hunting. They're gathering. They're not watching tv. They're not on the internet whatever And they found they threw some very sophisticated testing that they didn't burn that many more calories Than the average westerner became more efficient with their bodies Adapted and learned to do that right so here's another one that just came out This just was this was just posted in the new york times And what they did is they studied the amazon and they studied children who are in rural areas who Run play and forage for hours Versus kids that lived in the more modern societies where they sit down there on the internet watch tv or whatever And they said okay the kids who are out in the rural areas in the jungle They're leaner they're much leaner and more fit than the kids in the modern societies It's got to be because they're constantly moving constantly doing all this activity But what they found was what through again through sophisticated testing. Here's the trippy part They do not burn more calories day to day The difference was they just eat way less calories. Yeah, they ate a lot less calories. So Trying to burn your way out of obesity through manual exercise. It's such a losing strategy. It just doesn't work So we have to completely shift our this is actually part of what the book is about. We have to shift our focus Otherwise, you're not going to succeed. Obviously. I mean we've been Hammering burning calories manually for decades. It ain't working. Well, you just I mean you notice that with clients with yourself Like how quickly you get adapted to that style of training specifically So yeah, it's only a few weeks and then it's like you start getting really good at it But then your results just stop happening and then you know people think that they got to press harder and press harder and press harder But it's it's you can only go so far and then your body starts going the opposite direction That's right. That's why athletes do their first couple weeks of like hell week Or they had the hell week and they do all kinds of cardio then their body adapts to a peak And then it's peak training and then the rest of the season they don't disappear I mean they're still running all over the place I mean or every athlete would just disappear if that if if using cardio as a main source of tool to burn body fat Was a great way to do it Then all athletes all runners would just completely melt away It doesn't happen because the body gets very efficient at doing and we wouldn't be here. Okay. Here's the truth humans would not exist If that happened if we didn't adapt and our bodies didn't become more efficient because The hunter-gatherer lifestyle was very active Now you tell me as a hunter-gatherer you drop someone in the middle of the jungle or in the wilderness They don't know agriculture. They don't have you know livestock or whatever. They're just hunting and gathering Could they get an average of three to four thousand calories a day? No They would did no way they couldn't so the body learns to adapt So the key is how do I get my body to adapt in a favorable way? In you know under the context of modern society that is to train for strength Which helps speed up the metabolism. That's what you want It's the best insurance that requires the least amount of work and here here's a problem burning lots of calories You get results initially so people get tricked by it, right? It goes like this It goes real fast and then it plateaus and then your screw and the opposite is true with weight training with weight training It's a snowball effect It starts off slow and then it starts to ramp up ramp up and in just this long-term effect starts to happen So that that's the message that that needs but yeah, I read that article in the new york times I was like man, you know by the way daily activity daily cardio still has health health benefits So I don't want people to be like oh, it's a waste of time It's just not a great way to burn fat, but there's still lots of health benefits from doing it So, you know keep it up. I think the same thing like fasting, right? We talk about the benefits of fasting for the you know relationship with food It's not a great tool for you to use for fat loss. Yeah, absolutely So hey, uh, how you guys how do you guys workouts go these these workouts are fun with you guys? Yeah. Yeah. No, it's been going good. Everybody's looking good. I had so I I backed off a little bit this last week I mean I was with family up in uh, truckie So I didn't train for about four days and I was like really low calorie I was eating like 500 calories a day. So I wanted to drop. Wow. That's how low. Yeah I wanted to drop some weight. So uh, I you know, I told you guys I was pushing like 236 or so Then I came down to about 230 still Not feeling good. I just felt stiff and tight my hips were bothering My low back was starting to bother me my shoulders like I was losing my mobility and as much as I was enjoying putting size on and getting stronger and stronger My body just doesn't you know, my body does not want to be above that and I've it doesn't matter How many times I try and I thought maybe this time around because I spent so much time On mobility for the last couple years that I thought, oh, maybe I'll feel different when I get to that Kind of weight again. It's interesting to me that I still didn't feel good now I I have more mobility Like squat depth than I ever have in my life and at the size that I am so still still positive. Yeah, right? So I'm still I'm super mobile, but I my body just doesn't like that doesn't like that weight It's so I drop down again. I'm down to about 224 or so And I already feel way better. What's your what's your weight? What's your best muscular weight? Like as far as just overall feeling. Oh, you mean how I feel? Yeah, uh 215. Yeah. Yeah, 215 and lean like 215 and like 9 10 percent. I feel really really good I feel strong at that weight. I still feel like I have got good size to me. I feel mobile I feel lean athletic like that's a good. That's a pretty good weight for me Although You guys know this like you can be a total different version of yourself at 215 222 10 So I've been, you know, five different versions of myself at 215 So the weight is less important than more. You said 215 9 percent. Yes Yeah, I thought I was losing weight and then I just looked and I gained three That going for me your trainer Fire that guy Yeah, no, I went to uh palm desert. I got a bunch of sun. It was great There was actually this gym that was open the only one that's open there This world gym, but and I asked the guy I'm like, well, how was it possible that you guys were able to stay open And I guess they found a way around all this by Um, they were treating some some of their clientele that were coming in for like diabetes and they had like a physician on staff And so they kind of went more in the medical route Uh, and we're able to get this like certain type of a license So like the whole time like uh with the pandemic are they've been able to stay up and I always thought that was brilliant That's very smart It is great because it was like it's funny because like world's gym and golds are you know a little bit more of the You know the meathead kind of clientele that are like really nice, but like super serious especially worlds Yes worlds a lot of big dudes in there like super serious So I was like man, you know, I'm squatting and there's some dudes putting some some weight up And so I was like, you know got inspired and was feeling good And I had worked out a couple times and then the day came where I was doing squats And I was starting to stack some plates and it was like Like I did core beforehand and my core was fatigued Was not bracing properly and I just totally screwed myself. So I'm like working through a lot Oh, did you really? Yeah. Yeah at the most hardcore gym. I've ever been into was a worlds Gold ego got me Golds used to be that way But then gold's kind of went a little bit more mainstream-ish. They were still pretty hardcore, but a little more mainstream-ish Worlds stayed like I mean I went I went to a worlds as a kid. I was like 18 And I'm like, I'm gonna go to love it, dude. It's like a blast from the past You know, you get all these old dudes in there that are just at beasts Oh, yeah, I had it. So I have a supplement question for you because I've been lately I've been trying to like cycle both using uh pre-workout on something because I've been using more pre-workout than I have in a long time So I noticed that I was so I was kind of cycling off a little bit and I was using the the red juice from organophilia game And I noticed I really like it, right? So it does obviously doesn't give me the same type of energy that I get from a, you know Caffeine loaded pre-workout that's stimulant free, but I get a pump from it I get a good little energy kick from it and I get a good workout from it But I also noticed that it has rhodiola in it and I know that I've tried other supplements with rhodiola And I don't like the way I feel Do you have any idea why it doesn't bother me in the red juice? Do you think it's so I think it's the it's the dose So rhodiola is by the way, very well studied. It's one of the only stimulant uh free, you know, uh compounds, right? So it's not a stimulant. It's not a classic stimuli caffeine, but it does improve exercise performance Reliably, it's very very consistent. It will improve your performance, but it is not a central nervous system stimulant now Here's the thing with rhodiola The doses can be very individual. So like you if I take a high dose of rhodiola I feel bogged down. I feel tired if I take a smaller dose of rhodiola I feel energized And so the organified green the red juice has which I have it right next to me. Isn't that weird? It's like I just had it right there They it's got it's got it also has cordyceps in it And it has a good appropriate dose. I would say if you like more rhodiola, you could take a bigger dose But it's a it's a great stimulant free Uh pre-workout. So you're gonna get you know exercise So here's how I recommend people do this when they're weaning themselves off caffeine, which you should You should wean yourself off caffeine at least once every three months Because caffeine loses its effect. It's just not it's great when you wean yourself off go back on It's amazing. But in that off period, you'll feel like shit if you don't find something else. Yes And uh, you know rhodiola is a good substitute and the red juice has all that in there So I'm that's I'm using it that way So I just kind of like when I ever I catch myself I've talked about this on this podcast using anything if I find myself Scaling up scaling up I allow myself to do that a little bit and then when I get some point where it's like, okay I'm having a pre-workout. I'm having one or two coffees or an energy drink in a day I'm getting too far now come back the other direction and instead of just going cold turkey I'll come I'll cut like the consumption of caffeine like in half and then I'll add something like that in there Yeah, so I that's what I do. I cycle my caffeine. Otherwise, I just I end up getting up to 300 milligrams You're the most sensitive of all of those very very very very you guys can handle quite a bit more than I can Yeah, Justin, did you see I would assume you saw it. Did you see the combat drones that are now getting Did you see no, I thought you're gonna bring up the cock fighting. But yeah, no, we'll talk about that too So it's combat drones. So what they had they're geared up with like guns there There's a the first so it's a it's a Singapore based Aerospace company. I think it is That now they have a bunch of orders, right? It's a drone That it's the first supersonic Combat drone ever in production. So it flies supersonic And it's scary unmanned So, you know, I'm just picturing these these aerial battles in the future with drones that are moving so fast You can't see them and just and just you know blasting each other so weird This dude this is gonna get weird my brother crashed and broke my scary. What? Yes Those things are hard to crash though. Oh, we can't have to go manual when you're up it Yeah Well, so the one the big one that we have for work is hard to crash because it has all the sensors But I have the little mac the dji mac mini which is dope, right? I love that thing And uh, I let him fly it while we're up there and uh, he's he's I was showing him like yeah It's really cool. It's stabilized here and I'm like here take it and just hand it over to him And he's like we're both watching the screen while he's flying it and he's just like man, this thing's so cool And I was like caught up watching the screen And I and I go I look up to try and find it and I get lost in the sun I can't really see it and he's like and then also to hear this And it gets he flies it into the tree, bro. Oh into the tree comes down and just explodes Yeah, you can't save it dude cannot save it whatsoever. It's painful, but he felt so bro He felt so bad. I just let bro. It's a toy relax, you know saying so he ordered me a brand new one like right away on the spot He's like, oh my god. I feel so terrible. They're fun, man They are and the technology is crazy on those dude That's like when we were Tahoe and like Eli had just got the drone He was gonna do this whole aerial footage of like the house and everything and I'm out there I'm like, oh, this is pretty cool. And it's like it just caught a left He couldn't turn it right anymore. Just Exploded. Yeah, that's the problem with those things is they're they're not built like really because they have to be so light weight Right, so they're not built like really sturdy and I didn't I thought maybe it would be like I was like Oh, maybe I'll just hit the branches on the way down and it'll be salvage war. They'll be like, no They're like explode. Have you seen people who because you know, like there's Like wasps nests can be really hard to take down. Yeah, so there've been people with that That will put a fire a flamethrower. This is this is like my area. Yeah, and they'll don't like hire me to do this Get on the but pure joy Lighting these fuckers on fire. I love it. It's so awesome. How have you guys not brought I can't believe this podcast I don't know what we 20 minutes deep into this and you guys have not brought up the UFO flying over the airplane Oh, shit. I barely read this I know I just I read that for sure. You dork swim in like commercial airline, right? Yes Reported it and they have him recording it and then they had multiple other people because it's happened every day now You know, I swear there's like UFO sightings all over the place. They're preparing us Yeah, yeah, well, I told you guys like if you if you actually like listened to that whole episode of uh, Bob Lazar, I listened to a bunch of it with you remember in the car. Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty interesting I just liked how uh, you know, he was able to kind of break down a lot of the the the science behind like You know the reactor and everything Just, uh, you know, who knows whether or not that's like how everything works But it was just interesting to hear like a scientist try to explain what was unexplainable Yeah, it's weird that we're getting all these sightings all of a sudden It seems like a cluster. So I'm not or we've had them and then they haven't reported I'm still not sold. I just think that we don't we don't know what like the cia is built Like I mean think how far ahead we were with like the stealth bomber and stuff like that That thing was created like 20 30 years before it was revealed to anybody else So if we had if we had that it was inspired by something Yeah, but if we had that technology back then what do you think we have today? And we're just talking about drones that can fly like light speed and lasers and shit. Come on Come on. What is what do you think they got out of there? It was trippy when in that like bob was our thing. He was talking about like they had they had uncovered one of these Um UFOs like from an archaeological dig Like it was ancient. It's like ancient. Yeah, I was like dude that that sounds like a Steven Spielberg. Yeah, that's their crappy tech Oh, you found our phase one UFO, yeah, we're at phase 5000 now. Yeah, I don't know. I don't have to think about it all but it's it is cool It's interesting whatever but I like the theory that aliens are just humans from the future And they're so different and they came they come back to to study it. That's what I like I like that theory. Oh, that's kind of interesting. It's a very egotistical one There's no aliens just yeah, there's that one and then there's some kind of like biological robots, right? So like if you're gonna travel and traverse like to different galaxies like It's probably gonna be pretty difficult to do that with like the human form. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's a good end That's an interesting guy. You guys have all these really interesting theories. Wow. I mean, she's we yeah, we like to talk about it I'm into it It's a good time the multiverse and all that. Yeah, Doug. Did you pull up a picture of the of the drone? I want I want the guy I want the guys to see it. You guys got to see this thing. It looks crazy It's like a it's like a black dart and it's totally smooth and they're gonna arm this thing So here's the here's the question I have this is like something out of a marvel movie. Well, okay, so here's the question Okay War has always included humans and there's always been the cost of which has been human life We go to war people die, right? What's it gonna be like if we go to war because if It's easy to sell. We're gonna go to war. But don't worry. We're not gonna no one's gonna die because There's gonna be uh, yeah, there's gonna be casualties all over the place because of you know them fighting inevitably They're gonna shoot. Don't you don't you remember? I predicted it. My theory. My theory was that it's like, you know Look like a video game is the way we'll fight like you have a problem with another country It'll almost be like you step into a video game and you play them like a video Yeah, but okay, so the only thing that the only casualties are blown up drones and things like this Okay, so yes. So here's the question. I have you're let's we're going to war with another country. All right Let's all launch our our autonomous shit. You got your tanks. We got our tanks. We got our drones. All right Let's hit the button. Let's see who wins now. We lose. They're like, okay, cool. We're gonna take over your country You think we're gonna be like, yeah, let's do that. That's not gonna happen. No, we're like now We'll go to phase two. Yeah, we're now let's let's put humans on what's interesting because they've had a drone Like, you know in the air force, right? So they've had like they have to suit up They have to like treat it like they're actually, you know in the cockpit of it in order to like Make it seem still real because you could get I think they're worried about that like I don't know if it's cognitive dissonance or whatever where they're like disassociated with what's actually happening because They're far away from it playing it like a video game. I I read an article about that that these drone Pilots are suffer from PTSD, right? Because they live in Arizona. Yeah, they drive to the base They plug in bombing real people. Yeah, they're flying a drone and then they kill, you know Two terrorists and three bystanders, but oh, they saw that there was a woman or a child there or whatever And then they go home to their through their wife And they're it's hard for them to switch gears like that knowing Yeah, you think that they just bombed and killed someone, right, you know This kind of shit is a is a general's dream, right? Because As a general when you're ordering your soldiers to do something terrible, you don't want no questions You don't want no hesitation when it's a machine, uh, you know go just kill everybody. They just okay. Yes, sir Everybody's dead. Yeah, it's gonna be weird, dude. Well. Yeah, again. This goes back to my original like I'm just worried about like who's thinking about morals anymore like, you know with with uh, what what's happening with like these chimeras and like, uh, you know, like all this biological science and stuff that people are just like You know because we can't do it. We're doing it in the same thing now. We're looking at war differently It's like, oh, let's just let the machines do all our bidding and what do you think's gonna happen when it's just the machines doing all the Shit, then yeah, then they take over come on. We see that in Terminator. Yeah. Hey, uh, uh, talking about morals of weirdness Let's talk about the clock now so So here great Inserted dick joke. So so, you know, you guys know cock fighting, right? They have roosters They fight each other oftentimes they put extra blades on their oh, I had enough of that was a world champion Oh my gosh, yeah, you are so country, bro Philippines though, it's like real like in the Philippines. It's like Super Bowl like I mean you go to a stadium They have a big screen TV. There's replay like it's put them on steroids and shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. No You have you train them you train them and you you feed them steroids during their training And they have boxing gloves that you put them on you so you spar with boxing gloves And you pump them full steroids for months leading up to the fight and then you put on the blades when it's time to fight So a man was training his rooster Put three inch blades on him and the fucking rooster killed him Yeah, dude, he got killed by his rooster which by the way, that's standard. That's what that's the blades They look like this they're about this they're about this long and they they put three of them on their on each of their feet So so here's what happened. So during cock fighting training the rooster Stabbed the owner in the groin And then he oh my god, and then he bled to death He bled right story got even worse. Hold on. Hold on, dude. He went after the wrong cock But yeah, is that a true story or was it just set up? No, it was a true story. Really? Yes. Wow. Yeah Where was that at? Where was this? I don't know. Was it here in the u.s? I don't know. Where is it? Is it even legal? No, it's illegal here, but it's legal other places I saw in spain This is probably 2016 though like one of the ad doors got gored to death like in front of everybody and on live tv Oh, which is insane, but it's like That's the thing like that can happen and they know that can happen at some point like the odds are going to be against you And and you know, you're fighting. It's a wild animal Uh, see you later and roosters are aggressive. They're from what I've heard right adam You would know you you're oh, yeah, you're a hell of aggressive. Oh, yeah. No, no, they're mean little suckers Really? Yeah. Yeah, they're real mean. Oh, man, especially if you train them to be mean I mean they they're trained to just do that They get they're pinned up and then when they're let out it's to fight and then they breed them too, right? Because you have a champion rooster and then that's what you can sell them for a huge money So if you have just like anything else if it's got a bloodline of like it's been a you know Three generations of champions bread with another one that's a gladiator of chicken Yeah, then you can sell the you could sell the cock for you know 10 15 grand, you know Most expensive chicken you'll ever buy Hey, do they have funny names and stuff because now they name like, you know, like resources weird shit Nihilator, I don't I'm trying to remember if my uncle had any names for Kentucky fried fucker You know what though the trophies like real it was like six foot trophy. It was massive. Yeah What a weird thing to be proud of though, but yeah in other countries. It's a big deal though Like I mean here. It's like that's weird and it's and it's super frowned upon Yeah, no big time, but over over there, man. It's a big deal He's like famous when he goes there gets pictures taken if you want to sign an autographs and stuff like that. Yeah Oh my god, that's hilarious. I know and that's really weird. Oh, I got another article. That's pretty fun. I'm clucky You were thinking for a while Okay, so this is it. This is a study that so science daily I've talked about this many times great place to find a bunch of studies And there's like endless studies if you're a totaled nerd you can go on here and just have a great time Sometimes I'll spend hours on this but check this out, right? So They did a sewage study So they they went around different countries studied the sewage To find which countries use the most drugs because you know, some of it comes out of the poop Okay So the number one study that the number one countries for for drugs hard drugs Well for just drug especially for designer drugs. Okay was us. Of course us was first place, dude. Come on Yeah, uh the netherlands Australia and new zealand They're consuming the highest amounts of designer party drugs. Do you guys know what designer party drugs are by the way? Yeah, what does that mean? It's an mdma or no, that's a that's not it I know designer party drugs are drugs that were created to be gray market, right? They weren't explicitly illegal Uh, but they are now by the way a lot of them are now But they would create them to be like gray markets so that they could sell them And the way they get away with it was they would sell them as research chemicals So you'd buy them and it would say something like not for human consumption, you know wink Or they'd sell it as bath salts remember the bath salt situation. Oh, yeah Yes, so you go to these head shops people in the zombies in florida. I know I heard about that, right? Uh, so so I paid so the u.s. Those first place in consuming What are some examples that I don't know any other designer drug party drugs? Well, uh, Methodrom was one of them. Uh, very very similar in effect. Uh, it was very similar in effect to Mdma. Oh, okay. Yeah, so very similar in effect to mdma Um, I don't remember there would this be would this include like salvia and things like that No, salvia is an earth plant. Yeah Designer drugs are literally created in a lot of the counter. What about the fake the fake marijuana that was popular? That would be a designer. Okay. Yeah. What was that called? I don't remember what it was spice or something like that Yeah, something like that. Yeah, we are like I don't get that by the way You're gonna use a fake weed that could kill that has all effects Yeah, but is that real weed? I mean, is it any more different than people that are doing all the fake steroid stuff? What do you mean? Sarms is a dude. Sarms is even getting bigger now. Okay. Can I tell you something that hasn't slowed down? I was doing so I'm going to interview John Romano soon and John Romano for those who don't know this guy's like the expert On all the weird stuff out there. He's like a walking almanac. Yeah steroids Growth hormones and all the designer stuff. He's worked with top athletes He's been writing about this stuff for for years. So in preparation. I've been reading a lot about Psalms so all I did was go on google and look up Psalms and read about there's by the way There's so many different Psalms that are out there now right and Psalms for people don't know these are selective androgen receptor modulators essentially they're they're drugs designed to activate the Androgen receptor just like testosterone would but the goal is to have minimal side effects So it gives you anabolic effects minimal side effects But you know We'll talk about the side effects later. Yeah, right. Anyway, um, so I've been doing research on that I go on facebook And i'm getting hit with Hella ads for sarms on facebook. Wow. These are supplement companies and they're selling them in like supplement bottles I mean, it's blatant. It's a matter of it's a matter of time before they get cracked down on for sure Because it's getting crazy. I'm literally it's like buying supplements if you go online right now Well, I mean, I okay, so I part of me gets it right because we talked the other day about, you know Supplements as a young teenage boy and like I would try anything that was considered, you know, quote-unquote legal So I would be more likely to try something a psalm than a steroid Yeah, psalm than a steroid which is backwards thinking just because we have way more research on steroids than we have these made up chemicals Testosterone itself is especially for men very non-toxic. We know what it does. We know what it doesn't do Sarms it's their research. They're not they're not they haven't they're not even fda approved yet. We don't know exactly What the long-term effects are, uh, you know, it's just so easier to get Yeah, because I can literally go on the internet. It's not illegal That's why and that's why it's so popular because you remember what it was like being a 17 year old boy And if someone told you, you know, oh, I gotta take this injectable steroid or I can buy this pill over the counter For sure. I would have done it. Yeah, I would have done it. Yeah, no I would have fell for fell prey to it also Yeah, so anyway, I do and by the way, um, I want a little little shout out to one of our sponsors paleo valley You ruined all beef jerky for me completely He had some that's like a super dry and like chewy like I had some over the weekend. We were doing a hike And uh, thankfully I found a couple I stole some just so you guys know it was me From from the back. I figured yeah, I stole like a whole bunch of them But like I used them for our hike and it's dude It's such a stark difference and it's like it's it like holds the moisture in it's just they're they're exactly It's like you're eating grass-fed meat. They're they're you know, they're they're not dry as hell Yeah, um, well that's comparing it to like regular beef jerky too. If you if you find like other grass-fed like organic beef jerky It's super dry. It's rough. Yeah I mean, I think it's better than any of the any of the other beef jerky products that are out there It's especially better than anything that is uh like that I mean anything that is organic and grass-fed that is way way I y'all my kids love it my my kids are the spicy ones the the jalapeno ones your kids. Yeah, no, it's weird Yeah, I'm the summer sausage guy, but you know, that was obvious. What's your favorite flavor? Yeah summer sausage. Oh, my bad jalapeno Your mind is just wow Yeah What are you gonna do? Yeah, anyway, uh, what's that effect? Yeah, one more thing about the training I didn't forget to say this about about the workouts dude, uh, Doug and I were having this conversation In fact, we may I think this be a good single topic episode how strong I look. Yeah, just like, you know, Adam's looking really strong She just looks strong. Yeah, I see how you I see how you yeah, you and Doug look at my workouts That's why I do half of my workout here and then the other half of you guys You don't want us to see your secrets? Yeah, you just try copy all my shit You feel some of the silly moves and I'm like, oh, this isn't so silly. I like this Like those kick cars. Is that a Ferrari? Oh, no, wait, it sounds like a Honda. No, it's uh It we were talking about the value of following a pre-written program even for guys like us because of course I just probably so hard for me not to navigate to heavy lifting It's so hard for me not to to just see what I can do Well, I just I know it's just like you get drawn back in and you just think that like Like I should have done a lot of like prepping going back into heavy lifting and just boom. I'm right into it And then I feel sorry the price. It's the same way. I feel about tracking food very similar You know, it's the same same thing. Can you intuitively live? Can you intuitively eat? Yeah, absolutely Ken and I think most of the time you should I think that's a healthy way to kind of live I think it's a healthy way to train too. I don't think you need to be following a program I know that's kind of counter where we sell programs. That's how we make this business work But it's true I think if you're at a certain level that it's healthy for you to break free and kind of in free flow every now and then But there's tremendous value in revisiting that so even if you are somebody who's really advanced You know nutrition really well, you know programming really well Even for someone like me when I go back to tracking or go back to following a program I always see great benefits. Yeah, and I did use that new bar. What's that bar called? Is it a safety bar? Yeah, oh, that's great. Yeah, that is great. And then the curved one. Is that a buffalo bar or a bison bar? I don't know. I always get confused because yeah, no because yeah the bison bar Yeah, I've always been confused because there's one too that goes down Yeah, it's like this. Yeah, that's called an earthquake. Oh no earthquake bars the one that that's like the bamboo It's the one that flies No, it's the curved one that goes down just comfortable on your back But then I feel like that's a bison bar. I think it is But the safety bar is like a front squat and a back squat combined. I love that one Yeah, and I did both like crazy on friday and I'm just I love them. I absolutely love them First question is from lean queen Is the fat burning zone a real thing? Oh man, this thing's still around. Yeah I was queen as a trainer in in the in you know, the late 90s, right when I first started One of the first things that we were taught Was that there was a a target heart rate zone And the target heart rate zone you want to stay in so that you burned god forbid you like move a little bit Yeah, you want to burn body fat if you go under the target heart rate You're not doing much and if you go over it you're burning muscle. Yeah. Yeah, and so we would see and it was really just a sale I'm guilty of using that like crazy. Well, I didn't know though. I believed everything. Yeah. Yeah, exactly I didn't I didn't trainers that were adamant about yeah Totally 100 and so I remember one day I was like, you know, I was preaching this and this is how I talked to people on cardio This literally had approached people and be like, oh, hi miss. You know, are you in your target heart rate zone? What's that? Oh, it's the fat burning zone. You burn more fatty acids I felt I felt like I was smart. You die. Yeah, and I'd sell you know, whatever Um later on I actually did some math This was like maybe a few years later and I said, hmm If I train in my because target heart rate is not Super high intensity. It's not low intensity. It's it's also so moderate It's kind of somewhere in the middle, right? Yeah, and what the when you look at the studies What they show is a greater percentage of calories come from fat In a particular zone by the way, it's a super general because it's very different from person to person But within a certain zone you burn more a greater percentage of calories from fat now the percentage difference Isn't that big? It's like five more percent, right? But we sold it anyway But then I went and I did the math and I said if I train at moderate intensity and I burn 300 calories and 50 percent I'm making up a number, but let's say 50 percent came from fat That's 150 calories from fat if I train at a higher intensity And I train at and I burn let's say 450 calories But only 49 percent or 48 percent of my calories come from fat still burning more fat Right and then of course when you really learn about calories in versus calories out Doesn't matter in fact if you fast And do cardio a greater percentage of your calories will come from fat from stored fat But then if you eat later, it doesn't matter all balances out. So really at the end of the day Doesn't make a big difference now. What is your theory on somebody? Let's say let's take like a competitor for example Who is you know hovering and they're coming in their their final three or four weeks They are sitting around four or five percent body fat extremely lean And they have been low calorie for the last three four weeks So they've been in a debt they're constantly in a deficit right now because they're leaning out for a show Is it more advantageous for this person to do high intensity cardio for 30 minutes to an hour versus like walking for 30 minutes to an hour I think and I would love to hear your opinion now because you're obviously you competed But but you know instinctually what what I would say is it depends on how depleted and how stress the person is if they're going into competition, they're probably Super dieted they've been dieted for a while. They're four percent five percent body fat A lot of high intensity cardio probably would overwhelm their system and wouldn't make them look or feel good And here's a thing with four percent body fat a couple pounds of water looks like you gain three percent body fat It's such a big difference. So I mean, what's your opinion? So that's my my theory and that I would walk right? So I was you would go low Yeah, because I'm already the only time that you would catch me doing Any sort of intense cardio is if I was coming from a very fed state if I was high calorie And I was still trying to burn off a lot of calories So I didn't put on a bunch of extra body fat or any you have additional calories I'm trying to burn additional calories But when I am in that much of a deficit and I've been that low and I know that I'm that high as stress My theory is uh, okay If the body's got so low of body fat percentage as it is and I'm trying to shave the last bit of it I have no I have no stored energy because I've been depleted for the last three or four days in a row If I go out and do something extremely intense This is where my body would probably tap into and utilize muscle because it doesn't have a lot of resources And I'm stressing the fuck out of it. So my thought process is okay in that state It makes sense for somebody to use like low intensity or target heart rate type of training and only in that Anybody else you got a client who's 20 pounds overweight or above which is most people That's trying to lose weight. It's a calorie game where we want to get as low Okay, burn as many calories as we possibly can during this period of time I just look at it as another one of those gimmick things that they're going to hold on to just like we mentioned earlier about epoch I've actually seen a lot of circuit training type of franchises like back in the day trying to organize their entire Workouts and everything around this fat burning zone and really trying to make sure everybody kept You know their heart rate down and they didn't want to go too rigorous They wanted to kind of pull people back up and and just maintain this but yeah, it for for the most part it was like You know at the end of the day like like you'd said it's a wash like whatever You know your calorie intake is and then your calorie burn at the end of the day is it is for everybody else It is for most people for the average person Right like everybody like you're talking about the 1% when you get down to 4% body fat Like every little thing can make you look different. This is the big difference is how is it going to make you look and feel On stage and again, if you're 4% body fat, I've gotten down as low as 5 And I know that I could look like I gained 3% body fat just because my body was holding water right that doesn't happen at 12% body fat You can't tell the difference and my theory is this is that you the body always wants to utilize You know sugar first as fuel right it wants to use that first as the primary source But if you've been running low and you don't have any of that as a source The next primary source is fat If you don't have very much of that And then in addition to that you push the body really hard My thought is the body will adapt and pare down muscle in that situation Right, so in that situation you are stressing the body. You don't have very much You have no stored energy and fuel you've got very little fat as fuel in there You're already in this thin line and then you're pushing the body addition It's going to pare down muscle. I know a lot of people that think that you get old depleted Or they'll do a fasted cardio and then like they'll eat a lot later Yeah, and it's just like it's a wash. No, here's the way you should view cardio View cardio the two different ways one for health. So okay, I'm going to do this for health in which case Do the form of cardio that you enjoy the most because you're the most Likeliest they consistent doing the one you enjoy the most don't worry about all these nuances and splitting hairs If you're doing cardio for health, which is a great reason to do it Just do what you enjoy. So if you like hiking, there's your cardio. You like swimming. There you go You like to row. There's your cardio. You like to do, you know salsa dancing There's your cardio if you're here's the other way to look at it. It's for athletic Uh performance if cardio is for athletic performance If you're an athlete and you're doing it to improve your vo2 max or your performance Then you can start to really program it right if I want to maximize my vo2 max Then it's much I got to be much more specific with the kind of training that I do other than that That's it. That's pretty much it for for 99.9 percent of people listening Everything else don't worry about if it's for health. Just do your favorite type and you'll be totally fine Well, this is a performance get specific. This is another reason why I'm like a fan of like, you know You know a slow jog or a walk for your source of kind of cardiovascular training is because that it's more sustainable Yeah If you or somebody who gets into the like, I'm going to go get the stare master for an hour And just be drenched in sweat and kill yourself Yeah, you might have some motivation for a few months leading up to vegas for that wedding or whatever like that But the likelihood that you're going to maintain this stare master for an hour really intense Every single day for the rest of your life is very low But you know what I can most certainly discipline myself to walk for an hour Like that's not whatever you enjoy right exactly next question is from nicolas costa 35 17 How should one train and glow grow the gluteus medius? Okay, so let me some side bud That's I was gonna say so the gluteus medius is the side bud and from an aesthetic standpoint right from Aesthetics meaning just how good your butt looks The side butt really is important. It gives you that round That bubble but rotund looking butt and you can definitely develop your glutes and neglect The side butt and then you end up with kind of a long butt It doesn't get you don't have that nice roundness to your butt Which by the way is is mostly genetic, right? So the origin and insertion really dictates with someone's butt That's why some people have this like great little bubble butt. They didn't do anything for it was natural But that doesn't mean just that if you have a long origin insertion that you can't create the illusion That you have a bubble butt by training it and doing things like we're talking about right now I personally found so there's lots of exercises like the good girl bad girl machines or doing like slight side planks or You know walking side lunges or whatever. There's lots of exercises that target that muscle specifically I've had the most success teaching sumo deadlifts having people push the legs out Yes, sumo deadlifts when you have to open up your stands and you externally rotate your feet It turns that that muscle on and then you're loading the bar and you're lifting heavy weight Nothing I have seen have has grown butts more or more side butt than that exercise particularly Which I think it's funny because right now there's a thing going around Instagram right now of like anybody who says sumo deadlifts for the butt is a good exercise is ridiculous It's not I think that's ridiculous. I think it's not in my experience of training hundreds of different people on this exercise for this purpose I felt that's been one of the best gates. I like it frog pumpers are good too It's like a hip thrust, but where your knees are open and you're pushing with the problem with those It's body weight and you can't load them. Yeah, exactly Yeah, and what's gonna build a lot of muscles and I feel like a lot of women do stuff like that already So that's why like the sumo deadlift was so I had so much success with it So I understand that too, right? So if someone's never done a frog pump before you've never done like tube walking lateral tube. Yeah lateral tube walking Those are all great exercises that target that muscle specifically, but you're not loading it If you want to grow that muscle you want to load that muscle and one of the best ways to do that is sumo deadlifts Yeah, yeah, everything else is complimentary. Yeah, here's another one that I like and justin actually does these Quite often. So I know we tease him about his butt. This may be why Side walking but dragging a sled. Oh, yeah. So there's another great one now You're going laterally, but you're loading it, right? And it's this is such a great exercise because here's so the sled is so underrated As a tool for building muscle one of the things I love about the sled is you could load the shit out of it And you're mainly focusing on the positive portion of the rep. There is no negative, right? Now, why is this a good thing? I thought the negative built muscle Here's why because you're not doing the negative you could do a lot more volume with minimal damage So you could do your normal leg workout Throw a bunch of slag drives on there and not hammer your body like you did other exercises But you still I'm not counting the amount of of steps. I'm taking Yeah, I'm just trying to get to a place and inevitably I'm doing more reps than I would have say I had to come back, you know into my My state where I'm like doing a side lunge and like prop myself back like I'm just grinding my way through So, yeah, it's it's a great exercise. That's another great. It's great And it's just in your your crossover stepping right your crossover stepping sideways with a loaded sled and get strong at it Like get really strong See how much you could pull for for you know for 10 feet or 15 feet and you will build the side button I also find a lot of single leg stuff is great for this Because that muscle is also responsible for having stabilized the hip So if you're doing a lot of single leg exercises single leg deadlift lunges Bulgarian split squats like if you do a lot of single leg work The glute me gets worked a lot too because it's helped stabilizing the hip in that position Next question is from Heather Kovacs What supplements are worth spending big money on and which ones can I save on? Okay? So, uh, I did I went full circle with this as a supplement fanatic as a kid You know taking supplements for a long time At some point I started to just look at the ingredient and then the lowest price and I'm like it's the same This one's way that one says way this one says Creatine this one says whatever that one says so I'm just going to go with the cheapest price Here's the deal with the supplement market. It is largely market regulated. Okay? So there's there's very few regulations in the supplement market For standards. I'm not complaining by the way. I love this. I love market regulations We we get to pick what we want to buy and what we like it also It really helps with innovation in supplements. So my supplement market is constantly changing and evolving That being said If your number one priority with supplements is the cheapest price you're going to end up with shitty products for sure and consider this Here's what you should spend the money on or worth spend money on Supplements you take daily if you take it daily Then go for quality. Here's why this happened recently by I suppose like a couple years ago There was a huge consumer report that came out where they actually took a bunch of protein powders And they found a bunch of them were like exceptionally high in in heavy metals Heavy metals build up in your system or way low on the protein that it said it had in a lot And that happened. Yeah protein spiking was a big thing They did or actually companies were putting let's say it's 25 grams of protein per serving But in reality, it's like 10 grams of protein But then they add the amino acids that get tested later to show that it has more So you think you're taking 30 grams of protein. You're only taking 10 or 15 Oh, but I spent, you know, uh, say five dollars on this bucket of protein, right? Quality is super important. Uh, number one, you want to make sure That it has what it says it has good companies will have third-party testing Number two, you definitely don't want to be taking something You don't know because like the heavy metals, uh, you know problem that can become neurotoxic So here you are you're healthy. You're fit. You're taking your supplements You think you're doing everything and then you start getting Weird symptoms. You can't figure out what's going on. Why do I feel like shit at work out? Yeah, I eat, right Why am I getting tingling in my fingers or why am I why am I anxious all of a sudden? You have no idea that your your health supplement weren't they finding a lot of that With fillings from like the dentist like using like specific types of metals Oh mercury. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, the protein powder one was a big one And guess what the ones that were the worst were the vegan organic ones that they found a lot of them Because of the the pesticides they use were the other thing you could save money on I think that's I think that's been blown out of proportion right now is the creatines The creatine market because so much research has come around that and we all agree that it's the best If not created all these different versions exactly now everybody's adding all because it drove the price now which is great Right, so it's made basic old playing creatine pretty cheap to get a hold of But because of that there's terrible margins in it. So supplement companies. Okay, let's add this now to say it's better It's faster absorbing or let's add this just creatine fizzes when you put in your water Yeah, do this one so you get recovery added with it And so they start adding all these other things and then selling the added benefits or why their creatine is better So one of the ways you can save a ton of money is don't go Don't buy into all the hype around other types of creating get plain ass creatine monohydrate. Yes That's the one that has all the studies. It's the one that shows that it's works the best It's the one in comparison with others has the greatest absorption All the other creatine versions are a waste of extra money. Some of them are fine And it's really and it's hard to pixie dust, right? So there's a lot of like pixie dusting in the supplement industry where you add Because you have so much stuff and you don't realize how much of this stuff that you want in that supplement Isn't really in there when it's just purely creatine monohydrate. That's all there is. That's what's in there So what you get what you sweet on it is what you get. Yeah, there was a supplement back in the day I'm going to talk to all the all the older lifters listening right now There was a supplement called hot stuff back in the day. Do you remember hot stuff? You remember that bottle vaguely remember Okay, so it was called hot stuff and the reason why it was popular Apparently they changed the formula apparently the original one was people loved it But anyway, hot stuff was popular because in the ingredients it had every single new and cool Supplement in the bottle just threw it all in everything. So you hope you buy it and you'd be like, oh my god, this has It's got you know, Smilax. It's got yo himby. It's got some palmetto. It's got, you know It's got ecti sterone. It's got and literally would be this ingredient list That was like a hundred things long But what you don't realize is it's they put like, you know, it's like, you know two particles of it sprinkle Yeah in there and then they say that they have it in there if they actually did really was just an expensive protein powder Yeah, spend money on quality food next question is from jj for red How do you stay motivated when you've reached most of your natural potential? Okay? So here's the problem is that you are attaching what drives you to work out To the progress and results you get in the gym Now there's nothing wrong with valuing progress and results and measuring them because it's a great way to know Whether or not what you're doing is it's good or not But it's obviously a failing long-term solution because you know Let's say strength is something that I'm always after I'm not going to keep getting stronger if that were the case. I've been working out since I was 14 I should be able to deadlift, you know, 10,000 pounds by now But that's not the case right at some point You're going to hit certain limits and your body's not going to continue to progress And if that's all I cared about I would stop working out. I wouldn't want to work out anymore This person has to work on their their body image issue It's no different than the person who is really obese that's chasing being happy through losing weight And then they get there and they lose weight and they're still not happy with themselves You're chasing these you've reached your potential of maybe building muscle or looking a certain way And yet you still feel unsatisfied and you're in the same rat race as that person Who's obese that's trying to lose weight to be happy is you got to be happy with who you are and what you look Right now that's a body image issue. Yeah, I would say you're working out Value it for all the other things the things that will always You know pay you dividends, right? So what's always going to pay you dividends with your workouts? I'm taking care of myself. You're always taking care of yourself if you work out properly. It's time to myself I'm present I enjoy the challenge. Can you challenge yourself with your workouts to the to the day you die? Absolutely It keeps me Mobile it it prevents me from major illness or if I do get ill It makes me more resilient. Is that always going to be true? Yes If you focus on those things Then you but if it's always about results. Yeah at some point you're screwed Well, you can also switch directions too Like if it's you know if you're if he's referring or she I don't know if he or she if they're referring to like Their aesthetic potential or their strength potential will then switch to mobility Yeah, there's a lot of other pursuits out there waiting for you Yeah, or train train something that you never lived Yeah, one's the last time you got really good at Turkish get-ups, you know Or when was the last time you've done an exercise you've never done before and got really good When's the last time you decided? Hey, I'm gonna get really good at pull-ups Like I think the way we've stayed motivated for all these years is at I'm constantly changing my goal. It cannot be always about aesthetics It cannot always be about strength. It cannot always be about mobility It's it's important to move in and out all those things something like this to me It just just speaks that they're comfortable. They're comfortable right now. They're whatever they've done They've been doing it, you know, and they're glad to see progress where they've made it But now it's like they're comfortable. What do I do now? Like I've hit what I wanted to do, but you know, you got to keep challenging yourself You got to keep moving in different directions. There's so many different ways The body could benefit from you training it Learn a new skill, you know go go in a completely different direction. That's just hard Right And so you're looking for like some advice to you know form back into your original goal But you got to go away from your goal and also be fair with your comparisons Like you know compare yourself to yourself And then if you want to compare yourself to others at least be fair and compare yourself to People in your age group for example, like if I'm 60 and I'm working out and I'm constantly comparing myself to Fit 30 year olds. It's not very fair, but if I look at other 60 year olds I mean I trained a lot of people in advanced age and it was remarkable to me And of course, it's easier to observe People other people than it is yourself when you're doing it yourself your ego gets in the way and you can be a little bit skewed But as a trainer one of the things I love about training people is that it allowed me to be objective by looking at other people And then I'd reflect it back on myself So I had these clients that were in their 70s who were consistent with their workouts I had one guy that I trained that it's been working out since he was 30 consistently always By the time I was training was in his late 60s and then early 70s He was very fit But man when you compared him to the average 70 year old he was on another planet I mean the average seven year old would have trouble walking up a you know 30-foot hill or whatever that guy could run up that hill. He could do all kinds of super mobile He's gonna be mobile and independent till the day he dies. So it that's a little bit more fair But looking at you, you know, oh, uh, oh man, you know, I can only bench press You know 200 pounds and that 30 year old over there is bench pressing 250 pounds like well, you know, you're 55 Why don't you look at other 55 year olds and see what that looks like? Make it a little bit more fair. 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