 This hadn't happened a long time, Mayor. That concludes my report. Well, goodness. 104. Slow clap, slow clap. OK, very good. Do we have questions regarding city council action items for the next meeting, April 26th? Any upcoming items you want to alert the manager to? OK, then we'll move to our briefing on proposed policing technology contract. I believe Chief Noakes is going to kick us off today. Mayor and council, we thank you for your time today. Accountability and transparency are the two things I want you to remember the most important thing today. Technology moves at a rapid pace, we all know that. And it's a struggle for any organization to keep up. For us in policing, it is no different. And today, what we're doing is asking for your consideration on a contract with AXON that not only will improve our technological prowess, it'll help us do our jobs more efficiently. It'll help improve accountability and transparency and streamline some of the processes that we're asking supervisors to do, and their plates are full enough already. Coming into this, I spoke with some other chiefs, specifically the chief of Fresno, chief in Oklahoma City, and the chief in Austin, who have similar contracts with AXON. I heard nothing but glowing reviews, not just from the technology itself, the integration across multiple platforms with the technology, but also the personal touch, the customer service, the attention to detail by the staff at AXON. So we're very excited about this. I've asked Lieutenant Vince Brown to come and lead this presentation. And I want to thank him publicly for all the work he's put into this, into this contract, into the presentation and making sure we're being as transparent with you as we can with this process. Obviously, once he's through, we would accept any questions you have. This time, I'll turn it over to Lieutenant Brown. Good afternoon, Mayor, City Council members. It's a pleasure to be here to give you this presentation for your consideration today for our contract with AXON. I hope I'm hitting the right button, which I'm probably not. There we go. As the Chief mentioned, one of our biggest goals with the City of Fort Worth and the Forward Police Department is our commitment to accountability and transparency. This contract really does help us achieve that goal. We're going to talk today about the current state of our contracts. How far have we come with technology and what's new? What does Fort Worth currently use as far as the police department in the Marshall's office? What can we improve? We're going to hear from the city attorney's office and the monitor's office to talk about contract pricing and what our next steps are. So why are we here today? We're here today because there is some new technology available to help us out with the Forward Police Department in Marshall's office. We have several contracts with AXON and related contracts that expire at different times and we're trying to get to the point of consolidating those into a single contract. We'd like to get some long-term pricing and increase efficiency through automation because this will allow our officers to use their time better in crime prevention than it is on some of the issues that we have with doing reports and audits and things of that nature. We currently have six contracts with AXON and you can see by looking at the board up there that they go everything from interview rooms to vehicle cameras, to tasers, to body-worn cameras. All these contracts have been put into place over several years and as they get put into place they all have different expiring dates and so what we want to do is consolidate that and make it into one solid contract. We do have four other contracts from Motorola, Central Square, Vigilon and Blue Team and what we want to try and do is phase those out is our AXON contract and those software products that will come online will be able to support. Right now we're looking at technology that we've used in the city forward. Now we've gone everywhere from nothing in our cars to cameras, dash cameras, to tasers, to body cameras, to their software platform that integrates all the data and links it together and so what we want to do is we want to continue that and what we've done is we've brought some devices that we've used in the past for you to take a look at. We have some VR cameras and we have some body cameras that will be utilized that you can take a look at and put hands on to see kind of what we're talking about and at the end of this presentation, we can show them to you and you can ask any questions you might have. So what do we currently use? Currently we have body cameras that you see officers wearing on their persons. We have cars, cameras in our vehicles. We have interview room cameras inside of our different police sectors and that includes homicide, catcoup, things like that. Drones on a limited basis. So we currently don't have a lot of drones. They're usually tied to SWAT, maybe barricaded person, maybe traffic investigation or something of that nature. We do have some licensed play readers. I would say most of them get used by the Marshall's office but we do have some on some vehicles that are out in patrol right now and tasers. And this is what this contract that was approved by the city council will provide to us. It's gonna give us performance audits, live streaming, automatic camera activation on some new technology that's gonna be provided. Use of force recognition, which will ensure that we're doing the reporting required by the FBI on our use of force statistics and all this hardware that you see up there. Training, use and virtual reality. And for nowadays, most of us can look back and see what the new generation is doing and that really is video games. And so they learn a lot through that and we can utilize that. Now, for some people that like myself, I'm not really into video games, so it'll be a learning curve for me, but hopefully it's not that bad. We're gonna have wireless upload through LTE for our vehicles, more tasers, more cameras, more interview rooms and upgrade to our vehicle technology. Does it work? I would say we started getting tasers in about 2004. We started getting body cameras and in-car cameras. In 13 and 17. And we've seen through all the studies from the Department of Justice and PERF and AXON themselves have come out and shown that this technology works. And most large cities, the majority of them greater than 75% have transitioned into this technology because it does provide accountability and transparency. And we see it all the time. Every time that we see something on the news, not necessarily in Fort Worth, but anywhere, what's the first thing people wanna see? They wanna see video. They want to be able to see for themselves if what they're being told is actually what happens and that's what we want to because we don't wanna hide anything. So this helps us get there and these numbers kind of support that. What's our current limitations? We have limitations in our camera systems. They don't all integrate with one another. As you can imagine, when you have video that's being requested by either an open records request or it's being requested by the DA's office or detected needs it for investigation, but it's been saved on a different platform that integrates, then we have to go find that. And now we have a chain of custody that we have to address. This helps us eliminate that. The redaction process is extensive, requires a lot of man hours. It's a process, getting those requests out there and we're restricted by the Attorney General's office and we have a timeline by law we have to meet. And so we have to put man hours into that. Our RMS system, we've had it for a while. It was not created solely for Fort Worth. So we would really like to have something built from the ground up because then we can go into axon whether creating this RMS system and we can say this is the information we wanna pull out of it so that we can answer the questions that we get asked. Sometimes it's hard to ask questions when the system that we have that wasn't created necessarily for us doesn't capture that information. License plate checks for officers, VR training, the ability for us not to have to use Wi-Fi on our vehicles. So as you can imagine, a patrol vehicle that currently downloads all the video over Wi-Fi has to be close enough to a secure Wi-Fi source. In other words, Fort Worth source to download that video. And so the more cars we get, the bigger the city gets, the more Wi-Fi we need to put in place. It's expensive. These new vehicles will upload through LTE so they will upload on scene as soon as the video is captured. And currently supervisors, they're in the office doing audits. And when we really want our supervisors, we want them out on the street teaching our officers to be an example for our officers and not paperwork inside the office. So that is another issue we'd like to resolve with this. What does it improve? This is just a list of things and I won't read them all to you. We'll get into some highlights here in just a second, but really it's everything from helping us track use of force, auto redaction for our internal affairs to get these public information requests out. It's gonna be live streaming. So supervisors that aren't on scene or at a command post can live stream and see what the officers are seeing so they can help make better decisions too, right? Because believe it or not, we get people that this might be their first, whatever the scenario is. And so to have somebody that can talk to you and say, hey, this is kind of what's going on, be careful of this, it can help deescalate. And that's what our ultimate goal is, is to be able to talk people into things and calming the situation down. So what are some of the big highlights? Body camera activation. Everybody always asks us, was there video? And in most cases the answer is yes. But in some cases the answer is no, because something happened so rapidly that the officer doesn't have time to turn on the camera or he thinks he hit the button twice to activate it and he only hit it once. But he has to address whatever's going on in front of him. Whatever that situation is, however chaotic it is, he needs to address it right now. So having things where if I pull my firearm or whether I turn on my taser, it automatically turns that camera on. If another officer's on scene and he turns his taser on, it turns my camera on too. Which what's that give us, that gives us accountability, transparency, and that builds public trust. And that's what we want. We want to build public trust. We're part of the public ourselves. We're part of society. Automated audits. We talked about supervisors spending time doing audits. If we could have a system that automates whether it searches for keywords in videos, whether it is following up with the protocol put in place for camera activation and sends an email saying that here's something that's happening, is it justified? That allows us to go in and make determination on whether this is something we need to look at for officers. And then we can get ahead of the curve and before something happens that is dramatic, we can put the training in place to resolve it. New record management system that takes all these details and links them together. And that's amazing. The idea to have one source where you can collect all your information and an example would be our current RMS. You have to go in and put your use of force statistics in there. In this case, Axon will go ahead and put a task into our RMS and it will mandate that that be resolved before the report can be approved. And the last two we'll cover here in a little while. I will say that when you start talking about training officers, that is one of the most important things we do. And that is continued education. And so when we start talking about being able to take a group of officers and put them into VR training where they can see situations that they're gonna run across and stressful situations, then they're accustomed to that. And when they want to cross it in real life, now they're not stressed out also because we're asking them to de-escalate the situation. But if they get there and they're all agitated because this is something new to them, then that just creates more confusion. And this resolves that. And this also includes all the different things that we can use and is currently available in training in here, but probably one of the most interesting things is later this year, when we have an incident here in Fort Worth, then we're like, our officers need to be trained on this. We can reach out the axon in this contract and they will build us a scenario in this headset that we can use to train officers. So instead of taking a year to try and send officers scheduled to the academy to receive this training that we think is important, we can send out teams to different sectors when they come to roll call and give them 15 minutes of training right there on something that we think is important for the city of Fort Worth. That directly helps us. Our automated performance audits, very important. What once again, we talk about, we only have so much time to go through and review these videos. And it is the officer doing everything that he should be doing. So this right here will come out and say, your officer only turned on his camera on five calls today, why is that? Now there could be a logical reason for that. Maybe he changed someone's flat tire, maybe he got a cat out of a tree, but maybe he didn't. And if that didn't happen and the officer wasn't within protocol, this allows us to address it and we can do that. Now these automated performance, it was asked earlier, what is the scope? What can they be used for? And it's anything inside of a chain, meaning that if the chief wants it for the entire department and he wants to report right now, he submits for the request, he gets a report for the entire department. If a commander over division wants it for the division, they can get it for the division. If a lieutenant wants it for his district, I can get it for the district. And if a sergeant wants it for his team, he can get it for the team. This also means that we can pull up a map of the city, we can draw a geo fence around an area and pull up all of the videos in that area so that we can make sure that we're capturing all the videos of an incident just because they're not tagged to each other. License play readers. These are an amazing tool, but there are some concerns and I get that. One of the things that, unfortunately for the city of Fort Worth, if we remember the incident with the young lady that was abducted in Ryan's place, you know, it was terrible. We were very fortunate that we had citizens out there running around and they were able to locate that vehicle. We were actually able to get her back into our custody. I look at that and I see all these violent crimes that are up here on the slide. And I think if we would have had that vehicle information and we had all of our patrol vehicles out there and one of our patrol vehicles could have captured that and alerted the possibility of us getting her back sooner. And so this is very important. Now, could there be policies put in place for any concerns? Absolutely. And that's something that Chief of Police will have to make those decisions when the policies are updated or created. This right here is just a snapshot I want to show you. This is what we currently have available for the LPR in axon where we can make selections on what it alerts. And so we do have options, right? And then like I said, these options here will be put in place when the Chief of Police creates those or updates the policies that are gonna be related to this. Now the one thing you will notice up there is NCIC, I'll be honest, we don't have a lot of control over that. That's a national database run by the FBI. So we can't go in there and tell them to separate something out of their national database. We get it as a whole. But I would also say anything out of that database is usually a felony out of another state or the state of Texas that they're willing to come pick that person up. So usually it's something serious. You normally won't see something like that for a minor offense. Quick question. These are current availabilities. Is that what you said now? This is our current, this is a snapshot of our current availability. Okay. And let me just expound on that a little bit. We currently axon reached out to us and they asked us if we would test a couple of these fleet three. So currently this is not in all of our vehicles. Currently this is just what's available in those test cameras that they gave us to test, right? We do not have fleet three in our police fleet minus those test devices. Right now I'd like to open it up to the city attorney so she can make any comments. Good afternoon mayor and council. And I told them to put interim on there. I didn't want anybody to get any ideas but wasn't being presumptuous, I promise. So I just thought that it would be, David thought it would be helpful if the department who most interact with the police department talks to you about how this kind of technology could help us. And ultimately this kind of technology could help us in our losses and how we evaluate our cases. So I wanna give you a couple of, I wrote down a couple of things that we often hear in our lawsuits. The complaint that a use of force was used and there is no report on it. An officer did not activate their body cam or their dash cam. A car accident when there is a dash cam but it doesn't back up far enough to see who had the red light. How long it takes us to respond to PIA requests? And all of those things could be addressed with this kind of technology. For instance, the technology allows auto activation of cameras, which means that everybody around them, around that area, their cameras will activate when one person's activates. So sometimes in a lawsuit you'll hear well this officer activated but why didn't you? If you thought it was important, why didn't they think it was important? Well, that means that we don't have to answer that question anymore. It's also very important that it goes into the records management system. Perhaps what you don't know is that a lot of our requests that results in office or time is because we are fulfilling discovery requests for speeding tickets and red light tickets and things of that nature. And if you can imagine in a volume practice at the size of the city, that's a lot of requests that police has to fulfill and they have to go and manually look for everybody who may have been at the scene. This helps them locate all of those cameras and that makes them more efficient being in discovery requests and PIA requests. It allows it to be quicker in a process. And finally, what I'll say is the ability of this camera to back up further than 10 to 30 seconds. Right now your body cams are 30, sometimes your life dash cams are as small as 10 seconds. So you get into an incident, it backs up 10 seconds. This could back it up longer which allows you to capture more of an incident which is absolutely a gift. It is helpful to the public and it is very, very much so helpful to your lawyers. So I also wanna point out to you that one of the items that will increase under this contract is drones. I know there are concerns about how drones are used. There are state law rules about how drones are used in law enforcement. They are stringent and pretty strict. And so to the extent that there are drones being operated by police, they will have to comply with state law and we will definitely be working with Kim's office and police as we make recommendations for additional GOs and policy revisions. And I'm happy to answer any other questions. Can you give us an idea of what those state laws look like just so we can wrap our brain around that? So basically the state law with drones is that drones really have to undergo the same kind of qualifications as an arrest warrant. I mean, as a search warrant. So you cannot just willy-nilly put a drone up in the air. It has to be exigent circumstances or emergency or really you have to have a warrant. So there has to be some kind of judicial determination for why that the drone should be up in the air looking at someone's specific property. Now again, in a SWAT incident or an emergency incident, a kidnapping, those would be allowed without a warrant. But for the most part, it's the same requirements that would require you to get a warrant. Are those laws analogous to what we see for say use of air one, if we put air one up and they're looking for somebody, do our drone laws follow that, is there that law for our helicopters? Depending on the use, yes. So if you're looking for a missing person or you're looking for a person who's running from police and you're using the drones, it would have the same requirements as Air Force One. But if you are looking, I don't know, if you wanna see if there's a certain kind of dog in a yard, well, yeah, you're gonna have to get a search warrant to use the drone to do that. So it's, but it's possible under state law and this might be more of a question for chief that we could use these drones in lieu of air one when we're looking for a suspect or a kidnapping. That is possible. And would that be, do you know what the flight hour cost is every time, I mean? It's astronomical. Yes, and definitely what we wanna do is keep that helicopter in service as long as possible. When we great stewards of the tax dollars we're trusted with to purchase that, if a drone could help extend the life of that helicopter, that's a definite plus for us, yes ma'am. Okay, thank you. And I'm not law enforcement, but I'd like to point out that it's easier to take a drone with you than a helicopter. So you may end up at a scene where all of a sudden you need to know some information right then and there to dispatch air one takes a little more time than if you're swatting, you already have the drone in with you. How many drones are part of this package? Do you know off the top of your head? And you might not know, that's okay. I do not know. Okay. I think currently what it is is part of this contract. It's a dollar amount that they've set aside for us to get drones. So whenever the procurement of the drones comes about is when and the cost of those drones will kind of dictate that. I'm thinking off the top of my head right now, I think it was approximately 30 is what we're talking about. So it would be enough to like put with our specialized units and whatnot to kind of illustrate what? It's possible, yes ma'am. The next slide is for Ms. Neal. So Leticia said they were the department most touched by the police department. I think our department might beat Leticia's. So police oversight monitor Kim Neal. Good afternoon, mayor and council. I think that the new contract definitely of course endorses the police department's effort to be more accountable and transparent to the community. So in that respect, I think it's a great thing. I just wanted to talk about some of the implications of the contract and new contract. So we course and I think Leticia references, but of course we need some policy development around it. We need to enhance our body one camera policies, which we've already been working with the city attorney's office and the police department to do that. With in respect to license plate readers, we have no policies and procedures on that. No general orders on that. So I know that the police department is dedicated to creating policies and procedures around the LPRs as well. And then as far as drones are concerned, even though they are heavily mandated by state law, the law department knows that state law has recently been challenged. And so we definitely need some policies and procedures around that as well. And I know the department is dedicated to doing that. So those are all great things that we need to move forward. And what follows along with that of course, is once we implement policies and procedures that are effective and proactive, we need to of course make sure the training that comes with those policies and procedures are effective for the officers so that they can understand the new technology as well. But I also think, and I've talked to the chief about this, is that we need to engage a community more because this is a very large contract and the community needs to understand that we are enhancing the body-worn camera program and what that looks like to the community, but also the LPRs and the drones, what that looks like to the community. So I know that the police department has said that they're dedicated to doing a community engagement campaign behind that. Potentially it can cause reductions in uses of force. Potentially it can cause reductions in complaints against officers. And so that's a good thing. And then more complaints, and I often tell this to the new recruits that start with the academy, that more complaints or less complaints will come if or at least they will be, if they are complaints, they will be unfounded through the use of body-worn cameras because they show the picture. And so having come from a place where really this whole thing, this whole body-worn camera program, the transparency with it started in Cincinnati, which is where I came from, I tell people all the time that I have unfounded more officers because of body-worn camera footage than we were ever able to do prior to body-worn cameras being available to us. And so for that reason, that's a good thing. Just some recommendations to council. I know that community members have expressed concern in the past about cameras. And so, and I've shared this with the chief as well. So if there are concerns that have been raised by your constituents, I think it's fair to see the outcomes, particularly of the license plate readers and what that looks like from a demographic standpoint, what folks are being stopped, what the demographics are, what the neighborhoods are, what the circumstances are behind those stops. And so the council and the mayor may decide that they want some periodic reporting from the police department on that, maybe in the first year of implementation after the community engagement is done just to see how that looks from a reporting standpoint. I think that we also need some accountability and we can handle this through policies and procedures for violations of policies when it relates to deactivation of the camera and premature deactivation of the camera. We know that there are some concerns with that. Officers are doing a lot better job. The police department is holding officers accountable for that. But it's not just an encounter issue from a body-worn camera perspective, it's also a safety issue. And the safety issue is not just for the community member but it's for the officer too. So we want everybody to understand that the importance of that camera being on protects everybody. And so that's key. And my last comment I just want to say regarding the camera deployment program is that it doesn't replace community policing. I think we all know that community policing is still important and procedural justice are still important. And so those are the factors that our office continues to be dedicated to as we work with the police department and community and moving forward with enhanced accountability and transparency and Fort Worth. So any questions, comments? One. Yes, sir. Thank you all for this presentation. Just want to say overall, I think this is a right step in the right direction. I really appreciate the level of technology that we're using and the level of intentionality with storing that data and having it available, especially for your office in the event of some unfortunate event either way. The question I have is what's the timeline on the policy development portion of that? I know we're gonna vote on the resources but I think that it's also important that we have policies in place, especially for the body camera, the vehicle cameras as well as when officers pull equipment and activate that camera. So I know there's some policy work that needs to be done. I just want to know the timeline on that. Yeah, I'm gonna defer that to the chief. I know we're already working on the body one cameras. We've already sent that to the police department. So I don't know what the average timeframe is for implementing policy. Yeah, we're reviewing all those. We actually just got our first drafts of an LPR policy. We're comparing that with what we're seeing with the Marshall's office to make sure in line with that we've actually reached out to other large cities in Texas that have similar policies to make sure we're hitting all the best practices and hitting the points we need to to make sure that accountability and transparency is in place. The LPR and I'm hoping the body cam, we could have something ready prior to the vote. We've already had a lot of eyes on them. Really the last eyes that need to make the decision are me. And once I get that done, I can definitely share that. Thank you. The other piece I wanted to say and let Tisha touched on it was we have had concerns in our office raised about and this isn't a police issue. This is really, I guess a public records issue about the process for requesting body one camera footage. And so in talking with law department, that process was a little bit strenuous for the community member because if you don't check the right boxes, you'll get denied the request. And so I know that law department has worked tirelessly to improve that process. And they also make their attorneys available to community members. So we have, we'll refer community members directly to attorneys. They can walk them through that process if they are having problems with getting a body one camera footage. Thank you all for answering that question. Also thank you for all of the questions that you all answered for me in our meeting offline. I'm like, you know, I appreciated y'all talking a little bit about what the implications are for capacity with relation to staffing and staffing this new technology with camera activation. You all talked about the policy discussion that we need to have, as well as, you know, y'all answered questions around the record management system and reporting requirements. And I know those are still things that we have to answer. I'm trusting and hopeful that we can answer those questions to make this even, you know, better thing for the community and an additional resource that our community can have in their hands for increased accountability and transparency. Thank you. Mayor Pretend-Bivins. I was gonna wait until the end of the presentation, but I think we're just gonna talk about dollars next, so I'll go in and put my question. You might wanna hang up there. Okay. In looking and reflecting on the meeting that we had, which I did appreciate, I thought back to June of 2019. And it was a Sunday afternoon that turned into an evening when a young man named Jacobian Slayton was shot and killed. And that was on a Sunday in my district and I was on the street because we were near riot stage that time. And so while walking with reporters, reporters were questioning, the audience was yelling, we need the tape. We need the videotape. And so I think it was Sean Rapp who asked me what about the videotape? My response was, we gotta have the videotape so that we can see healing start. And that was Sunday night. And I guess later on about maybe 10 or so, I was told that, well, police said, we can't get the videotape. And my response was, no, we gotta have the tape. And so we were in the chief's office that Wednesday. And that was very important because the community noticed this was the first time we had such a quick turnaround of videotape. And that showed the people that there was flexibility with police. And so I really think where you're going with this does show that police, the department in itself, really you're trying to meet the needs and the concerns and the anxieties of the public. But I wanna run a few names by you and you may not be able to answer now, but these are things that are really important to me that I'm hoping technology can help with. Now, years ago, I met Art. I think his name is Art Colton. He was chief. Acevedo. And when I met him, this had to been maybe 2017, 2016, his cars at the time had a 360 camera, meaning time you opened that door that camera was rolling and could not be shut down. And so one question I have is, do we have that capability that you're describing today? I think with the 360, I'm sorry, the 360 view around the vehicle, we did not too long ago test a camera that gave us that ability. In fact, you probably saw one of our cars running around the city with that little R2D2 little thing on top of it. And that's what that was. And we found that the quality of the video and the access to it and so forth did not meet a standard where we were gonna pay the price to have that benefit. I know that one thing that I've talked to Axon about is that this new fleet three that we have, it can support up to like five cameras. So at some time in the future, if that's the capability that we want for the department, we can purchase extra cameras that will go all the way around the car. We can do that. I think that's gonna be important. Just because it's gonna answer questions about, well, was somebody really coming at the officer? And that's why he or she started shooting. So I'm glad to hear that we'll be looking into that more names to read off to you. And what I'm trying to get to is the technology that you're talking about today, could it have mitigated or avoided circumstances that happen to people like Gerald Banks, who's one of my constituents who comes practically every Tuesday because he was manhandled by Officer Martin. Another name, Michael Jacobs, of course, Jermaine Darden, Jacqueline Craig. You know, is there something in the technology that if an officer may not be in a car, but he's about to have a physical encounter with a pedestrian like Jacqueline Craig. And we end up on network news and, of course, a talking on a Jefferson. And so when we're talking about technology, I think what I'm hearing in the presentation is things that are predictable, but it's those unpredictable situations that lead to violence and tragedy. And so I'm hoping when you guys are looking at this technology, go beyond what the box tells us we can expect, but how do we use technology in circumstances that we cannot predict? Does that make sense? It makes sense. So talk to me. Well, I think one of the things that really helps us out here is when we start integrating all these pieces, when you talk about the unpredictability of a situation, where an officer removes his sidearm and the camera's automatically activated. If he takes his taser and he turns his taser on, his camera's automatically activated. Myself and another officer, it is seen, and I remove my sidearm, it turns both of our cameras on, so it gets the full aspect of every camera that's in range of that Bluetooth signal. And so that really is what helps us on those instances where we can't predict what's gonna happen to get the most transparency that we can get. Now, do you remember, I think this was rah-rah, not sure, but along 820, there was an officer who stuck his hand in the vehicle and the driver took off. And the driver ended up dead because the officer shot and killed while he was hanging onto the car. Yes, ma'am. What happens with this technology in that kind of scenario? In that scenario, if we had this current technology that's available in this contract that you're considering, the his ax on camera in his vehicle, because the vehicle should be parked on the traffic stop behind that vehicle in front of him, and when he turned on his lights, that ax on camera should come on. At the same time, it should turn on his body camera. So we would get the aspect of not only the vehicle camera, the officer's body camera, and if he was riding two men, it would be his partner's body camera. Or if there was two vehicles there, it would be everybody's body camera. It would all be activated. So we would get a clearer picture of what was seen because we know that sometimes one angle of a body camera or one video doesn't always tell us the whole story. And that's why 360 is important to me. And I don't have any more questions, but I do have some commentary. And this is why I wanted you to stake him. I think when we're looking at making advancements by using technology, we should also make sure that we have the appropriate punishment at the ready as well. Because if you can prove something with videotape and the officer does not dispute it, then there needs to be some type of swift action to get a bad officer off the street. And so I'm hoping that you guys will be looking at incorporating that aspect of it as well and working with your office. I think we can see even more progress. So thank you for your answers. May I put him? I was just gonna add to the comment that when you look at the Sherrell-Thomas case, one of the interesting things about that case was that the majority of the incident happened away from the dash cam. So the dash cam didn't capture it. It was at a time when we really didn't have body cams and full effect. And so what would have happened in this instance with this technology is that it would have activated the body cam automatically. And so he wouldn't have even had to try which he couldn't have been able to do with his hand stuck in the window. But would 360 have helped? Yeah, 360 may have helped, but just the activation of his body cam would have helped because it would have showed us what he was looking at, including what, you know, there was some dispute about whether or not he was really stuck about his arm being in the window. So it would have shown. I love you dearly, but I'm gonna listen to cops talk about the cops. I know you are. But yeah, I had the lawsuit and so that was the legal arguments that were made. And that answers those questions when you can have that kind of technology. Let me ask you this, since you're gonna put yourself in that conversation. When it comes to Jacqueline Craig, and I'm not being, I really wanna know. When it comes to Jacqueline Craig, what do you see could have happened because unless it's something that's keeping his taser, I don't know. What does technology offer to a Jacqueline Craig scenario? I guess that's the best way. I'm gonna be a little more careful because we're still in the lawsuit with that. Really, and you can chime in chief if you want, the body cam activated and so it was able to capture the whole interaction between the officer and Ms. Craig. What may have been a little more helpful is that I don't know that the dash cam itself captured anything I cannot remember for the life of me. I don't think he activated red and blue. So his dash cam did not capture anything. That's a question. And just like most, I know where I was when I saw that video, I was in the hair salon. And so, but I'm just trying to figure out how can we do everything we can with technology to avoid these horrible situations. So two things, his dash cam would have been activated and I think another officer came on the scene and that may have worked to have his stuff activated as well, so you get more footage which is never, which is always a benefit to have more footage of what's happening in real time. And if I may, one of the, for me, even the most powerful parts of this technology is you're out there a lot of unpredictable things, but there's a lot of lessons we've learned and we're able to tailor our training with this virtual reality based on instances like that. So hopefully we never see another instance like that. Thank you, thank you. Yes, ma'am. I think Elizabeth had questions and Carlos, then Chris. Great, first I wanna say, maybe it was six weeks ago now, I had the opportunity to tour the real time crime center. I think I always say that wrong. I hope I said it right this time. All right, good. And I was thoroughly impressed with the work that happens there and I think my comment was, we had to do a better job of telling the public how we're using this technology to reduce police interactions, but to enhance our crime. And I look forward to working with y'all on that and having Axon out in District 9 so that we can have those conversations with the community because I do think it's a step in the right direction, but I think it's careful that we don't step too far and cross the line that violates our constitution and our rights to privacy. I appreciate your willingness to put some policies and procedures in place around the new technology. And I just wanna highlight some things that I think are important as we move forward in developing those policies. I think adopting some sort of retention limits on how long we keep that data. I know that International Association of Police Chiefs did a pretty thorough report in the longest DC keeps it three years, but it looks like most keep it 30 to 60 days. And so I'd like to make sure that we're defining how long we're keeping that data. There's been a recommendation that there'd be an adoption of a two-step scan, and I don't know if this technology allows us to do that, but where there's an initial flag for the police officer, and then they take a second step that then provides the sensitive personal information. So if it's a flag for, say, a warrant for failure to appear for jury service versus wanted for capital murder, they can choose whether or not they release that additional information, and that's when that would come up. I think that's worth looking into if that technology has that ability. And then our audits and our audit logs, how often we plan on auditing, how this information is being used, what our police officers are doing with it would be incredibly helpful to build some trust. And then what steps we're going to use to prevent misuse? There was a study done and found that, and obviously it only takes one bad apple to taint everything, but there's been a study found that some officers used it for inappropriate reasons. Maybe they had a crush or an ex-girlfriend or someone that they didn't like, and they were using that to look them up, and so we know that that's happened in the past, and so I wanna make sure that we're addressing that when it's appropriate for that data set to be accessed by our police officers. And how often we're updating the database, it should be important as well. The hot list, I believe it's called, like I mean, trying to learn some terms here, but how often and how accurate that particular list is, what's the method for implementing the updates? Is it USB, is it wireless? And then how are we ensuring the accuracy of the databases that we're relying on for this particular information? I think are all pretty important when we determine how we're gonna use those. So I appreciate that. Thank you. Carlos. Thanks, Chair. Chief Lieutenant Brown, for me it's very encouraging to see that the increased use of technology and the evolution of existing technologies coupled with effective police training, and good policies, are putting us on a path that police can offer their level of public service to the public and have that confidence and trust increase within the public. Back in November of last year, myself and Michael visited the AXON displays where we're out there at the Bob Bowlin Public Safety Complex to actually get hands-on experience with existing equipment, upcoming equipment, VR training, which is very exciting. And we could tell, it left an impression on both of us. It's very convincing, right? We could say that could be a very effective training tool which leads me into my question for you. The more we implement these types of technologies, the more data storage becomes an issue, right? Now AXON has its own data platform, data storage platforms, is that correct? Yes, sir it is. Okay, are we using that? Is that part of this contract? Well, we currently use their storage platform right now and it accepts all of our video that we uploaded. It also accepts any third party video, an example would be, say we go to Walmart and Walmart provides video to the officers. They can upload that into evidence.com so it's all linked together for any user that needs to request it. This contract includes all of that and the data is included for all the devices that we're attempting to put into this contract and it also includes another storage area if the city elects to use that storage area and it's part of the bundle. All right, so it's not just data storage, it's also data management and interfacing with that data in case, say you need to get ahold of some historical data. Yes, sir, right. And I don't know what interface you use exactly but is that well facilitated enough that we don't have to wait on AXON to provide that information for us? In other words, any requested information could be provided in a timely fashion. Yes, sir, with the current platform that we have, it's evidence.com is what they call it and when the videos or the data is uploaded into that, it's immediately accessible by anybody that has credentials to get into that software platform and it's all web-based. I see, and how is that charged to the city? In other words, is that, in your opinions, is that the most cost-effective way of handling that data storage? Well, I've reached out, so one of the things that I discussed with Michael Monday was is it feasible or practical for the city of Fort Worth to maintain all this data on our own? The number of storage servers that we would need to include backup and personnel to run those backup servers from everything I was instructed about is not cost-acceptable. I think that right now, if I was, from the last numbers I received, it's somewhere between 40 and 50 terabytes of data that we have stored with Axon. And you can imagine the servers and the personnel to make sure that we have backup so that we can ensure a chain of custody of evidence and to show that the evidence isn't manipulated in any way and this allows that to happen. So in my opinion, which obviously it's not really my decision to make, I think it is a very effective way for us to store that information. And that is a considerable amount of data stored. Thank you both. Yes, sir. Chris. Thank you, Mayor. I wanna go back to a couple of things. I think that Councilman Jeff brought up and Mayor Pro Tem. And I think one of the things that we're failing to mention is the activation of the body cam. That activation only takes place if, and correct me if I'm wrong, if the body cam is in a stem, if it's not turned off. Yes, sir. Okay. So if the body cam is turned off, whether they pull their weapon or taser, the camera is not gonna come on. Yes, sir, that's correct. Okay. What is the corrective action that we have put in place to our officers to rectify that? And I think in the meeting that I had with you, with you guys, that's one question. The second question is, does Exxon not have an override option? To a lot of things we discussed before and I'll try and bring those up. We do have a rep here from Exxon that can answer any of those questions. Absolutely. Sure. One of the things is, they have always been a good partner with the city of Fort Worth. And when I mentioned that, it's because if we've run into issues, like we talked about in the meeting about officers who power off their camera, because that was their only option if they're gonna go to the restroom or if they're making a personal phone call, they wanna turn their cameras off so it doesn't catch what they're in the restroom. And so we reached out to Exxon and Exxon's working with us to resolve that. And one of the things they've done now is worry, have an option on our cameras to put them in a standby mode. In the standby mode, it doesn't require that 20 second power up. It allows them to put it into a sleep mode and it's not activated by different things, but it instantly comes back on and you can trigger it by hitting the event button. So we're currently working with different options and another option is with the fleet three if this contract was approved and we put those cameras inside of our vehicles. When the officer gets in a vehicle, he links his body camera with the camera in the vehicle. We can have it set that if the officer's camera's in sleep mode and they put his red and blue lights on, that it takes it out of sleep mode and activates it. So we're working on steps with Exxon to correct any of those deficiencies. Okay, that sounds good. You said the rep is here, can they come up? That sounds good. What concerns me is saying we can, we have instead of putting it in black and white because what's gonna, and correct me if I'm wrong, David, we're asked to vote on this win next Tuesday. So when the vote is taking place, I wanna take a vote on what's in black and white and not what's on a maybe or a wish because those maybe or wish may not never happen. So that's just a comment I wanna, I wanna ask you is there an option instead of them turning off their camera to put it in a standby motion so that they can maybe sleep or whatever. And then when they pull their weapon, they don't have to manually turn it on, it automatically come on. Yes, sir, Mayor and members of council. My name's Andrew Grayson, National Director with Exxon. The direct answer is it's available today. Okay, is that a part of the contract that we have now? Yeah. Okay. Is there a way to deactivate the complete shut off of a camera? No, the officer will still have the ability if they choose to totally power off the device. Now, the software will memorialize that and will send alerts to supervisors that the officer is intentionally powering down their device. Okay, is there an override option? Not allow officers to manually power off the camera? No, if they manually power off the camera completely. So that means it's not in standby, it's not on, but it's completely powered off. And they pull their weapon. Do you have an override where it automatically override that off button? We do not. We don't, okay. If the camera's completely powered off, it's in our eyes an intentional decision to do that and it's powered off for a reason, we do not have a system wide override to power that camera back on. Okay, and so the alert that'll be sent to the supervisors would also show how long the camera is off, like a time they turn it off and it's been off for 30 minutes or? Yes, sir. So there's gonna be two places that we're gonna memorialize this. One, it's very overt. It's through the axon performance, which is the compliance dashboard of officers using their body worn cameras. And if they've power cycled the camera, how many times they power cycled it? What percent battery charge was it when it was power cycled? And power cycle is just turning it on, turning it off. The second and more, I guess, inclusive way we memorialize it is in the audit trail. So we show active telemetry of the physicality of the body camera and its audit trail in total and every function that was accessed on the body camera in the softwares memorialized in that audit trail. Okay, so in my previous work, I used to work for Sprint and when we had all those crazy callers, we can be available and then we can put ourself an idol or turn off in your case. And soon as we go and idol a supervisor is in real time alerted that this person is an idol and not taking phone calls. They can get up from the desk and they can say, hey, what's going on? My question to you is, when they turn that camera off in real time, will a supervisor be alerted so they can possibly monitor if it's been off for five minutes or hey, what's going on, Officer Johnson? You turned off your camera. In real time, can they be alerted? Not today. Not today. Your system, they'll operate. Yeah, so what you'll see in the system is if a body camera is in standby mode, in buffer mode or in record mode, that's all accessible via map, which is all web browser based. So if you have the rights and permissions to access that on the map, you'll be able to see all of your officers. So today, if that device is completely powered off, I won't be able to get an LTE signal from the device. So it's like find my iPhone, so to speak. That functionality is built into the cameras, but it has to have power in order to do that. Okay, I have a slate of other things I wanna ask the officer, but I'm gonna yield for a second to Gina, go ahead. I'm just gonna tie in. You guys are, police are able to prioritize the calls that officers make. We get them through Evergreen or whatever that's ever bright. Is it possible that if an officer is dispatched on a high priority call that we fix it so that nothing can be deactivated? High priority being shooting, even a major accident. Do y'all get those notifications? We'll see, when it's a high priority call, that's an indication that something is really, really bad here. And so if you think about that, are you able to, and this is to achieve what my councilman Nettles is going for, are you able to program the system so that no deactivation of camera can take place on a high priority call until that scene has been cleared? I would say that it is possible, we talked to Axon that once we have our RMS in place that acts on in this contract and it ties into our CAD, they could possibly, and he can confirm whether this is a case or not, they could say that if that CAD signal that goes out to the car that says you're dispatched to this call is a certain code, like shooting a robbery or something of that nature, that they could do something with the cameras that allows them to operate in a certain manner. But that would be something that would have to be programmed into the RMS and the CAD program as they develop it. So that functionality is available today. In our world, we call it remote based activation or event based activation. The city would set the policy of these five criteria, just to use an example, this body camera will always turn on if there's a CAD call that meets one of those five criteria, and so that will be a secondary trigger that will turn them on. In the pricing of that, so I understand it's available. Is it available to us in the price that you quoted? And you can be real, if not, let us know. 100%, it's in there. It's already in there. Yes, sir. Okay. I'm still, I have the floor, but I'm yielding to Jared because I- Thank you. I shared that similar concern and we talked about it. One of the things that I want to add to that, we discussed, I love the standby option more than I love turning off the camera because then if there's an emergency after they go to the bathroom or they take a personal call that it's able to be activated. And I loved the override part. One of the questions I asked is anytime, can we set a policy where anytime officer either puts it in standby or, and especially if they deactivated, could we put in place that they have to ask request permission from the supervisor on duties and code those so that we as a council know what type of reasons there were for shutting it off? So, and so the reason being is that it's not at the liberty of the individual officer to turn it off, but that there's a chain of command to where we have a record for that approval and authorization. Sir, anything is possible through policies set by the chief of police. I know that I will share some experiences of my own. When you start talking about permission for officers to do things that we're trying to give them the discretion to do, and every time that they want to get out of their car, they wanna do a traffic stop or they want to remove it, they have to call supervisor. We don't have enough supervisors for that. So if every officer, and that's just my opinion, so if every officer needed a permission to do something and they had to contact the supervisor, then we'd need time 10, the supervisors to have the ability to get those requests. I'm gonna interject for a minute. I think y'all gotta finish the presentation and talk about pricing in a minute from Chief Nokes. Is that right? Why don't we finish that and then we can keep asking questions. Thanks ma'am. So this next slide, what this really shows right now is what the pricing for this contract would be. For fiscal year 22, it would remain 3.5 and then on average, for the life of the contract for 12 years, it's about $6 million a year. For a total of just the police side of just under 72 million. The Marshall has a spending authority in this contract for $200,000 per year. They currently spend out of their special revenue fund about $49,000 a year and they do not anticipate on that increase. The reason they requested the spending authority is because if a city council approves more officers for the Marshall's office or if they elect to outfit their police vehicles in the same manner that we do, this would give them the spending authority to do that if it fits inside the special revenue budget. This is just a breakdown on the average for the 12 years of the contract, which comes out, like I said, to about $6 million a year. This slide here is a good representation of where we're coming from and where we think we'd go to in this contract. In 2016, you can see that blue line that goes up there to the side. That was our actual spending up to this point and you can see the spikes in there and that comes from us adding contracts. We're negotiating new devices as are we try to equip more officers with body cameras and you can see the spikes that go up and then we get to where the orange line is. What that is, is that's the increase in this contract. That's gonna give us new users, new services, new technology, but really kind of one of the bottom lines is right now for our big contract with Axon, we're on 2016 pricing and you can see on here where we started in 2016. Those pricing aren't available anymore and so we're gonna be going from 2016 pricing to 2021 pricing, because that's where our quote came from. Once we start paying the 2021 pricing, you can see this line levels out and we can anticipate for the duration of the contract that it stays stable. This contract also has growth built into it. So we won't be coming back saying, hey, we've added an extra 100 officers in five years from now and now we need more funding to support this contract. That's already built into the contract, but if we don't add that extra growth, then we won't be built for it. This just kind of gives a display, the difference between the bundled contract and if we went out to do a co-op, so if we went to something like buy board or something of that nature and tried to do a contract pricing, this is what our savings is by doing the bundled pricing. This slide right here shows that the light blue line is the plan we're looking at, unbundled, going out and getting it, not anticipating any cost increase for New Year pricing. So even though that shows a pretty stable line, it probably would increase over time. The dark blue line shows what we're currently proposing and that is an increase to the $6 million a year with contract pricing over the next 20 years. The orange line shows if we just tried to renew at this year's rate and renew the contracts as they come due, then that's what we would anticipate and we forecast our cost would be. And so we're forecasting that this contract will save the department money if we're keeping the same services we currently have and not gaining any technology. This is really just a breakdown, a simple slide that says if we were to stay with our six separate contracts and renew them as it comes by, next year we'll pay $5.56 million. That's what the current pricing with Axon is and that would give us no advancements in technology, it wouldn't give us the audit, it wouldn't give us the transcribing, it wouldn't give us the new RMS program, none of that. The new proposal down there, the price is 5.9, but that includes growth and that includes all those advancements of the program that we've been discussing. This is just a slide showing what is a suggested forecast of CCPD. That's what we're looking for, the funding source for this contract. What are the next steps? Currently this is scheduled to go to MNC next week on the 26th. We're currently in the process of reviewing general orders for any possible updates. That includes in the future if we get drones, making sure we meet current guidelines for state requirements, body warm cameras, anything that we need to address, especially with new technology, LPRs, et cetera. The proposal right now is to return to city council in six months to give an update on any policy updates or hardware that we've put into practice. Questions? Questions, council? Carlos, I'll come back to you, Chris. Okay, either for you, Chief, or Lieutenant Brown, mine pertain to the contract. Yes, sir. Does this proposed contract have a termination for convenience clause in it? Yes, sir. It has two different clauses, one's for convenience and one's for nonappropriation. If we decide, or I'm sorry, if the city council decides not to or determined his contract for convenience, axon requires a 30-day notice and then after 30 days, the return of all equipment that was purchased through the contract. Okay, same thing is lack of funding. Yes, if it's not appropriation, then we get to keep the equipment. All right, and as far as, let's see, well, let me just say that that has an added benefit. Those clauses have an added benefit of protecting the city's credit rating as well. Correct? Yes, sir. If it didn't have that clause in there, we could run into trouble in that regard. Okay, and then I think this is probably already the same thing I had a question about, maybe if you could just cover generally, cancellation terms, terms of cancellation in the contract. Yes, sir. If there's for convenience, it's 30 days notice. If it's for nonappropriation, we just notify them. All right. Okay, and then one last question. You were talking about bundled services in this contract. Yes, sir. And I can see where you have some cost advantage with that. I had read at one point in time that part of those bundled services that AXON is beginning to offer includes 911 record management services. Are we buying that? Is that in here? Or is that something we're not considering for this contract? We're not considering that for this contract, sir. Okay, thank you. Chris, and then Leonard. Okay. Let me go back to where I was on the option, the equipment that we have. Yes, sir. Do we currently have the standby option on the equipment or we need new equipment for it? The current options, we're gonna use our same equipment inside the contract for group, I'm sorry, for the 12 years. An example would be currently our vehicle cameras, we have fleet two. If this contract is approved, we will get fleet three, and in five years, we will get whatever the next fleet camera is. We currently have body camera threes. As soon as the 30 months rolls over for body cameras, we will get their body camera four or whatever they call it. Same with the tasers. Okay. So yes, we currently have the body cameras we use right now we'll retain until that update. Do we have the option to stand by off only? We currently now just started the policy of the sleep mode that we were discussing, and we're starting to work on a policy for that. Okay. So, I'm like Gina now, I need a yes or no. Can they put the camera that you have now, the options, can they put it in safe mode now? Sleep mode, yes, sir. Okay. And they also can turn it completely off. Yes, sir. That's the question. Thank you. Yes, sir. I want to go back to page 14. We talk about the violent offense. You have five listed, and I think Kim Neil talked about it earlier. The highlights for the license plate readers, she got kidnapping, sexual assaults, murder, suspects, robbery, and aggravated assaults. In this system, this contract we're going to purchase. Are these the only five things that the license plate reader will read? No, sir. This was, these are things that we will generate in a hot list that will be pushed out, and we can make whatever we want. We didn't want to take this slide and put 30 violent crimes in there. We just wanted to give examples. The hot list, when you talked about, you said we can put those in a hot list and push that out. So we determine, right, I get that, with the NCIC, we don't determine, but our internal hot list, we get to choose which offenses that we're putting in that hot list. Yes, ma'am. We can make determinations on whatever we want those parameters to be, and that could be, it could be something that's not even, it could be a bolo on a vehicle where there may be not anything in the alert that it is probable cause for a stop, but just something to alert the officer that this vehicle has been seen in the area or something of that nature. Awesome, and then Chief, as part of the policy, is are we gonna define what we load in that hot list daily or weekly? Yes ma'am. Okay, awesome, thanks, sir. That's okay. I wanna know what they're gonna be. I don't have the full list. Are there some you're concerned about? Do you like to ask about specifically? Well, yeah, because do we currently have this option now? We have the same options. Currently, sir, what we have, we do not have this option with the cameras. These cameras, fleet three cameras are not in our vehicles. What we do have is in the city of Fort Worth, we do have the ability to put out on local alerts, so like for local warrants. Instead of a local warrant, we can have in our, I guess it's clear square now, you can put a bowl out there and it will show up as the officers alert. So do have the ability to do this through central square, but not where it's automated like this. Right, and this is gonna be more efficient, right? Great, something new, but you want me to vote for this, but you're not gonna tell me what it's gonna read. I wanna know what it's gonna read. I can't answer that right now. I can get you the information, but we need to determine that with our policies first. And when would that be? We can get something to you before the vote. Okay, I'm looking for that because when I go to community and say I voted for this, I should be able to tell them what is it gonna read? I should be able to tell them from the Rudy to the Tooty. And if I can't tell them that, then we're really not being transparent. We really not. And that is what my concern with this technology. I like the fact that it would make us more efficient. But if we're not being, I mean, just tell them. I mean, it's not gonna change if a person has a misdemean, if a person is a stealer, if a person is a killer, and they ain't gonna change that character. They gonna keep doing it. But we at least needs to know that when you're riding the communities of our neighborhoods, if we're gonna have to be community police, we need to know exactly what is this gonna read. This slide tells me it's gonna read five things. The next slide tells me I have the option to reading all these if I check them. Then I'm asking you and you saying, I don't know. That's not transparent. And so I need to know exactly what is it gonna read so that I can put it out there to my community and there be a little bit more transparent. I truly believe this is me that we're spending a lot of money on this contract. And that the things that concern our attorney, the things that concern Kim Neal, those policies should be written. And I don't know if we need to do overnighters and I get that you're gonna come back in six months, but we need to at least have a commitment before the vote of what policies will be written out so that when we come back in six months, that we have an expectation of what we're gonna get. I think we're gonna have that. I'm not voting for it unless we don't. Well, I'm not voting for it either. I'm pretty sure. I'm glad I got your support on that. Aren't you gonna tell us? Yes, ma'am. Yeah, we'll have that. All the policies. I don't see any problem. Okay. That's what I'm looking for. My feet hurt. And so that's why I was walking around. I think it was page 10. You talked about the live streaming. And I wanna ask on the live streaming and the record, I think you said that the supervisors have the option to, as the person is out there and the cameras is activated, that the supervisor in the office would be able to click and live stream and see it from his office. Is that correct? Yes, sir. Okay. When that officers, when that supervisor activates and begin to look, is there a record to show that they saw it live? I would say that I would have to make sure with the axon rep, but what I would say is, is when you turn the camera on from the supervisor, so the camera's already activated and he goes into live stream, instead of the light on the camera being red, it turns purple. And I would say that there's gonna be an audit trail when that function is created and there's also a tree for access. So if I'm a supervisor on North, I can't go look, well, I'm sorry, the chief of police will make determination on who can see whose camera. And then once that happens, I'm sure there's an audit trail showing who watched what and what their credentials were to log into the system. Okay. And the last thing I have, I think, I don't think we should determine whether officer turns off the camera or not, anything like that. But I think there could be some type of standard of what are reasons to put things in standby and what are reasons to put it in off mode. I think if there's like some type of standard or procedure in place so that everyone has the same understanding across the board. I think that is a good suggestion. Leonard. Thank you. Just a couple of quick questions on, really on page 20 where we, or slide 20 where we itemize some of the elements in the pricing. And I guess maybe it's in the detail of the contract, but just a couple of things. You know, we really where the bulk of the expenses annually, it seems to be a mix of hardware and software there. Do we break that out any place? A lot of the contract, and I'll be honest, Exxon makes crazy difficult contracts for me. They, but I will say that for the most part, the software and the hardware combined together, and we pay for a package of the taser and the body camera. That's probably the bulk of the expense because that all includes the data storage. And so that's where a lot of it's at. It's like a combination to include that refresher that we talked about. Every 30 months we get a new body camera. Every five years we get a new taser as they get developed because unfortunately tasers are like cartons of milk. They have expiration dates and at a certain time they're no longer in warranty. And we don't want to have officers out there with things that may not work correctly because it's a liability both for the officer and the city. Okay, and then the under the officer safety plan, this 1693 quantity is that, my question really is the quantity of the hardware. How many officers, how many cars are we outfitting? Currently what this contract will do is it will bring our number of tasers and body cameras up to 1693 or authorized strength right now if I remember correctly, a 1743. So this will allow us to upfit a majority of the officers and we currently have 600 vehicles. You currently what? Have 600 cameras and vehicles. And what percentage of officers is that? So 1693 out of 1743, I can't do the math in my head. That's a high percentage, 90% we'll say 95. 95%. That's just an estimate though, please understand. All right. Yeah, I didn't have a math test to become chief for a reason. The last question, certainly the records management system is important here and that's done offsite. Does AXON own and operate that server farm or is it outsourced? I believe Mr. Grayson would be the best one to field that question where the server is located. Yep, it's a great question council member. So we outsourced Microsoft Azure GovCloud and that's our provider for cloud services. Okay. So we own evidence.com, evidence.com sits on Microsoft Azure and then the city of Fort Worth has a tenant within that. Okay. And then Microsoft is responsible for the redundancy. Yep. So all the redundancy and disaster recovery is owned by Microsoft. Okay. And Carlos may have asked this earlier, but in the contract, do we specify the period of time that it's stored, that all the data is stored? AXON will define the storage limit or the storage term that's based on policy set by the agency. What we'll guarantee is it's unlimited storage based on whatever policy that you set. Okay. We currently have a policy in place for our AXON storage. If it's considered evidence, we keep it indefinitely. If it's non-evidence, we keep it for two and a half years. Great. Gina, Michael, do you have a question? No, just Geo does. Thank you. I was chatting with our acting city attorney just for a moment there. What's really important to, I think this entire body is making sure we marry all of the concerns we've heard today so that before we take that vote, we know exactly what we're getting. And I'd like for Kim Neal to make sure that we know if there are any concerns that she has that have not been addressed. Kim, that's a cue for you to come to the microphone. And I also, even though you'll see frustration around the table, every concern has to be addressed. And I take every concern spoken by this body very seriously. Now, if you guys know, this is my first time wearing shoes, so I was walking around, not being disrespectful, but I had to walk around. And I state that so you know. But I heard concerns from council member Nettles, Flores, Jared, from Beck, myself. Even if I hadn't heard from the little carries going on, everybody. And so I wanted to make sure our legal council was making a note of these because when we come back for this vote, we need everything addressed. And so Kim, is your office on the same page with the presentation as given to us today? Or are there some outstanding concerns you have that need to be addressed? Our office is on the same page, but of course we're concerned about the policy development. Well, I shouldn't say we're concerned. We're working with the police department on the policy development piece. For the LPRs, the drones, and the body worn cameras. And then we wanna make sure that the transparency piece that is communicated to the community members, a good community engagement plan is put in place so community members understand the implications of the technology. Now, this is my first time hearing of that concern, so can you send that to at least me? I've been gone for a couple of weeks, but I didn't know that. We gotta get it right. We're spending more money. We're gonna have a contract. I like what I hear, but I just wanna make sure that it's right. And everybody else does too. I know that for a fact. So whatever it is that you're concerned about, I wanna know. And if anybody else doesn't know, you need to share that with them as well. So that's all I got. And I wanna thank you. Sure, I just wanna say thank you for putting this together and putting in front of us. I've often said that one of our main jobs as counsel is keeping our citizens safe. And I know depending on what you look like, you have different versions or different definitions of what safe means. You know, as Councilman Flores brought up and Councilman Beck had gone to, I've gone to the RTCC, a real-time crime center, done the de-escalation training, did the axon training where zombies were shooting at me and I was trying to fire them. But one of the things I'll say that was great was the real-world scenarios. And we focused a lot today on the cameras. And I think there's some policy issues that we have to, we all have to address as part of this. But we focused a lot on the cameras, but there's a lot of other technology in here that keep our citizens safe. And one of those are the real-world scenarios, the VR training, the other piece that you brought up, where you get to interact in a real-world situation. And all of the things that we're talking about, about keeping our citizens safe and how problems are addressed, a lot of that's through the training. And so I don't want that to get lost in this contract that a lot of this is to make our officers better, to react better, to be able to interact with our citizens better. And that's a big part of this that, but there are some serious questions, I think that need to be answered as part of this. And I think y'all will do that and get that back to us. And so thanks to you, thanks to Kim, LaTisha, all for working on this. Appreciate it. Any other questions? Council, go ahead Leonard. Just one last one I forgot when I was talking earlier, the evidence.com licenses, what are those? And how are they used? So the platform, Lieutenant Brown talked about where we access the videos, that's what evidence.com is. So these are licenses to be able to access evidence.com to be able to view those videos. Okay, okay. All right, thank you, thank you. Did you have something, Elizabeth? No. Thank y'all very much for presentation, very thorough. I just wanna make sure we're setting expectations here. It is not common practice of the city council to vote on policies and procedures of the police department. We now have the police monitor's office that will work really closely with Chief Noakes and his command staff. What I think what we can agree to today is based on the questions that have been raised by some council members is some more specifics, especially when it comes to the use of those cameras used in cars to identify their vehicles based on their license plate reading. That was one predominant issue that needed some clarification. Maybe some high level clarification on how the technology of the body cams can be utilized based on what's available to us and how you'll be rolling out those policies and procedures over the next six months. Anything else I'm missing that we need to get before next Tuesday? We'll also look at the community engagement piece. Thank you, that'd be great. Just at a high level to make sure everybody's comfortable and anybody has any questions prior to next Tuesday needs to direct those to Chief Noakes directly if you don't mind. Thank you very much. Thank y'all. Thank you, Mayor, thank you. Good afternoon, Mayor and council. Next week we'll be asking you to vote on a resolution to adopt a strategy report for the open space conservation program. So the open space program and the ideas identified in the report are really to help for us to be more positioned, to be a more livable and sustainable community. So we have the special open spaces in the future for our future generations. So today, Brandy Kalp, our open space team lead is gonna be presenting to give you an overview of our trust for public land efforts. Talk about the key recommendations in the strategy report and then talk about our next steps. So Brandy. All right, so I know you've heard quite a bit from Jennifer and myself on this over the past year. And so we're going to be hopefully drawing to a close on these preliminary discussions and really diving into the meat of the program going forward. And so today's agenda will be focusing more on the report than in previous presentations. So we'll go for those key program recommendations and where we hope to go from here. And so just brief refresher, the open space working group is comprised 12 different city departments as well as our external partners. And we work together to bring the strategic goals and vision of the city into our mission in an open space program in Fort Worth and learn those best practices and avoid the pitfalls that other communities have made. And really taking a data-driven approach to all of this. And again, all of that data that we pulled together is available on that online map. And it was very important to us that this program be very transparent and that we incorporate our feedback from the stakeholders and from the public. And so every step of the way we've worked to do that. And we're also as part of the report looking at potential funding options as well as those key program recommendations. And so some of the recommendations that came out of this very basic defining open space for city plan documents as well as potential ordinances and policies. And then working with external partners which we're already very much in the process of looking at a land trust in the area and potentially getting a conservancy up and running, working with our regional partners on open space. And we've already made some acquisitions and I'll go over those as we move forward but we're gonna continue to refine down those priority parcels and really get to those most important areas of the city so we can preserve those. And then we're looking at exploring incentives and opportunities to potentially require open space conservation in the development process. And this is something that has actually seen a lot of positive response from our development community. So I'm excited about that. And then we're also looking at the different funding mechanisms. One thing we need is a sustainable funding source for the program. We've got the bond funds but that will of course run out and those cannot be used for the maintenance of open space. So we need sustainable funding for both acquisition and capital projects as well as the ongoing maintenance which right now the parks department is shouldering. And so we're really kind of drilling down with our open space working group and starting to define the roles that each of the members are going to play in the day-to-day operations. Currently there's no dedicated staff. We're all pulled together from different departments to work on this. It's great for collaboration but as we start to acquire more spaces of course it's going to require more of our time. And so we wanna continue to commit to this program to an equitable and inclusive open space management but as the program grows we're going to have to look at where it's going to live long-term whether we need a dedicated open space team and possibly even things like rangers for our larger open spaces, enforcement of rules that those really heavily visited areas. And like I said currently park and recreation are maintaining the open space acquisitions that we're making at this time and we're already working with them to look at a training program specifically for open space. Our parks department has a lot of open space parks and a lot of natural areas and the maintenance requirements are very different and getting a group trained specifically on those areas will hopefully make us more efficient. And then looking at land management plans for some of our larger parcels and making sure that we define those objectives very clearly and then again evaluating those passive recreation opportunities. And so finally one of the first things that we're looking at is a permanent stakeholder group and we'll be coming to our council members about that. Currently we have about 65 stakeholders so we're trying to whittle that down to a core group and so far again they've been very engaged and very responsive so I think we can get it down to about 25 or 30 and we'll be coming to you with our open space recommendations on who all we want to be involved in that effort. And then growing a volunteer program around this we've got a lot of opportunity with existing volunteer programs and then potentially developing one specifically around open space. And so just a brief mention our acquisitions to date we've got four and Broadcast Hill was of course the first that was the 50 acres by Tandy Hills, Petino Road was 24 acres of eastern cross-timbers it's a highly endangered ecosystem. Rock Creek Ranch was a joint acquisition and I've actually been told that it just was recently expanded to over 300 acres. We picked up a parcel that was kind of cut out of the middle there and at least 40 of that will remain open space. And then we also extended the Fort Worth Nature Center by 30 acres of prairie ecosystem around the bison range to protect the entrance there. So we're already actively working on spending down those funds so we'll be looking to you on where to get the next round. And part of that of course is the bond election that's coming up we've got 15 million for the open space program that we're asking for. And of course like I said we're working on whittling down these priorities. You'll see the red, the dark orange areas. These are the places that we're going to be looking and taking that public feedback again we're going to refine the parcels based on the very high priority open space. Those that have really high ecosystem preservation scores because that's what the public identified as their top priority. And then looking at those areas around town that currently lack parks and open space so we can fill some of those gaps. And I know that's important as part of the 10 minute walk initiative as well. And then it all comes down to availability. This is a volunteer program. We can't force people to sell their property in open space. So we'll come down to what is available in these areas. And so our next steps next council meeting we'll be asking the council to adopt the report. And basically what that means is this will become our official guiding document for the program. It's a menu of options and recommendations that we're able to choose from based on what works for the city in the future. And again, the bond election and then working on that permanent stakeholder group and then we'll be developing a story map webpage with the trust for public land that is very public and interactive where people can go to learn more and interact with the program. Thank you, Brandy. Questions from council? No, very exciting. We appreciate you very much. A reminder to vote on May 7th. Yes. Is that the last of our presentations? That's it. Any future agenda items council? I have one IR that I'd like to see. If we could get an IR on our street striping maintenance program, like what intervals we do that in and what the process is for if we get extra worn how we get that? Cause I've had a couple of complaints lately. Thank you. Something to, there's obviously been a lot of talk about the Forest Park pool. And I'd like an IR just on the heating of the Forest Park pool. I've gotten some constituent asks on this, running of the lines, what that would cost, monthly maintenance, increased staffing costs, what that would look like as a full package if we put that into the rehabilitation with the Forest Park pool. And then just as part of that thoughts on the process of what, if it's not able to be done there with the master aquatics plan, what that might look like for other future pools or future aquatics, how that can be done. Gina. Mine is just a reminder to the city manager of my request for a report on all entities receiving money to fight crime and what impact they're having. And I specifically stated not just city funding but United Way, the county, it's a whole bunch of people fighting crime but crime continues to go up. I won't know what's going on. Any other questions council? Future nonims? No? With that, I think we're adjourned. Thank you.