 gunfire started going off and the crypts was on the one side bloods is all running around and what happened is I shoot was outside the limo shoot just bam bam and I remember I opened the door and I always remember I said look at this 20 million dollar idiot shooting at people about to get you when you talk about MC Hammer you know people used to try to play him as if he was like just a cuz this guy different when I started researching since I met you and when you told me those stories I thought he was just a regular dancer dude in some big pants but this dude is a not only a entrepreneur this dude was somewhat gangster you know I said you know we thought we was going with the non-gangster we ended up going with a king kind of game it was like wait a minute hammer anything cuz you know you would when you first you don't think about it in the pain I'm telling you and you think it oh he's just goofy and stuff when I got to meet him I was like oh no hammer street he's straight okay you know the high street boys I say who he really is street you know I'm saying that's crazy man and and what's sad is that you know it's really sad think about this all the rappers that talked about hammer for getting deals and getting all these endorsements do you know they all got endorsements that's how they make money they make money of selling on records no I mean think about you get them streams the one centerpiece and stuff like that no they make we make money off endorsements of a people actually endorsing us they clothes cologne liquor think about all that these rappers is making money the most often having their own liquor putting their name on liquor and getting proceeds from that let me ask you this when death row came cuz it came after NWA when shoot night came on the scene it seemed like everywhere people when he wanted to come in a room I was in a room when he came in once you know casino everybody start whispering I'm not playing they so I'm saying like how was that she was it is terrifying as people made it to be well you know what you know why you know what the thing is is that she had you know there we don't be honest with you I don't know if it was true or not but she had this kind of people but told me and then you know and I hope I don't get in trouble but I don't care but she was under Harry O and so everyone knew Harry O was like the business so you didn't mess with Harry O so if you didn't mess with Harry O you didn't want to mess with should wow and then with Harry O here no Harry was locked up in prison but he still was oh man Harry O he out he's still called shots we can read Harry O you know what somebody told me it was a cotton pickle what's his names you remember himself cotton pickle the one always in a view yeah I can't remember he him and Larry he's he's Harry O he deals with him yeah Harry's out now yeah because you know I think he's under you know yeah but I heard that I'm serious you know he I wouldn't he I heard he doing business I heard he you know he got his stuff together he's doing his thing and you know I salute him because why was you and sugar hanging on it though because what happened is why remember hammer went to death row sure D so what happened is before he went to death row I was supposed to go to death row and so what happened is that you know she heard some stuff about me was a hey I like your voice when we put you on some backgrounds and and so I used to stay everybody stayed in Fremont I stayed in LA had a girlfriend to stay in LA and England so I like to be in England all the time so I always fly down and go you know and hang out with all that's the reason why I'm one of the ones that knows a lot of people in industry because I came to LA wow and I lived in LA and I just fly back to Oakland to Fremont and work with him but but when I did that when I came to LA shit would be around and I would be like hey we got this party won't go here you won't go there and I was like yeah you know you wide-eyed like yeah sure but then I realized that being around shouldn't might not have been so and then I got a little I'm gonna talk about now but I'm gonna talk about it in my documentary whatever but me and sugar had a little falling out little distance a little falling out and because I had the falling out was sure I realized that because she respect didn't do anything to me I got a little rep in LA because everyone thought that I was I seen him at the American Music Awards before he got arrested and everyone just and what was so sad was that the people that were walking with me all dispersed really I told you they ain't weird they dispersed when they saw because they knew she was not really happy with me at the time yeah and I grabbed him and we just shook and he said man we gotta give it and after that so y'all did was able to come together in the way and said you know I mean there's a deeper story of course I mean you won't tell a documentary but at least it didn't come you know I had some protection at the time so you know it's a deep story so I mean my thing is that but he was cool and what got me was I realized I said these folks that I was hanging around didn't have my back didn't have my back at all I said I couldn't believe that I walked up and they all they all just dispersed like you know cuz I guess they thought oh deuce about to get shot dead something something like that but but but I've seen that was shook I've seen where he's I'm gonna give a story and I don't care if you get mad if you tell we were at Prince used to have a club okay and people gunfire started going off and the crypts was on the one side bloods is all running around and what happened is I shoot was outside the limo shooting just bam bam and I remember I opened the door and I was arrested look at this $20 million idiot shooting at people about to get killed cuz at the time that was back in the 90s he was like we're $20 30 million and to us that was could have been a billion to us you know back then but I just was tripping I was thinking look at this dude he worked all this money and he up there you know I'm saying he doing the street stuff and you know you know and here all these other people supposed to be gangsters and all the gangsters is hiding in the cars and running around and shit out there just I heard stories man I hear stories one one story I heard just recently on my show that she was gonna do it he lost $700,000 trying to do a death row East Coast and then I heard he lost $400,000 trying to do a death row Atlanta like in the South and it's like the question came on show like how would he lose that much money it was like that's not that wasn't a lot of money when you the type of guy he was in the morning you have him having 20 30 million with the company at the time and you gotta think about he had the biggest rappers of all time on his on this on this you know which project did you like the most that he dealt with because you had Snoop you had pocket you know yeah I was with digital underground you know I knew digital so you know money be tell Ronnie I said Ronnie I said what's up tell him deuce was are you seeing deuce yeah actually Ronnie used to be my manager really yeah money be with my manager for a while we did a song called remember when Master P did no no no no yeah me and money did a song like that y'all don't just do y'all oh no no we was actually we did it before he did oh but I was kind of drunk on the song and I said I'm here so you met Master P and all them before oh yeah yeah yeah so you know silk yeah so what can you tell me about silk just that they I mean cuz I work my cousin is actually Rico you've heard of sons of funk no they're from Master P okay so my cousin and so we actually he's on we're we're he's part of the tour it's it's called Master P meets with MC hammer it's a TRS it's sons of funk it is a bleed mcbleed Natasha and Moby Moby Moby Moby I can't think Moby whatever Moby Dick or something like that it's called but we're all doing a tour trying to do a tour together yeah we on boss talk one-on-one yeah we gonna talk