 you know CSI and I have a little experiment going right where we gave each other our oldest sour diesel cuts and we gave each other our chem dog cuts and we gave each other our chem D cuts and we're going to see A if we think they're all the same and B you know are there differences we're absolutely positive actually that the chem dog cut is the same but they've been separated for you know I mean I think he got it in 06 yeah you know so they've been completely separated and never exchanged for the last 17 years between the two of us yeah I'm fascinated by this because I've always had that theory about acclimation and stuff and I'm very interested to see how plastic the chem 91 cut is