 We have an idea for a great episode Skitso needs to be in it. He's perfect for this episode, but here's the problem Dude never shows up anywhere. We're like 10 minutes from his house. We're going over to his house We're gonna get him and then we're gonna go shoot an awesome episode That Determined we're like the only way to get Skitso to come and play is to come and kidnap him You're actually up and texting me like we're yeah, what's the pin? Where are we going? I'm like, I'm gonna go back in their house. Let us do our bit though I want to find out how much of each pilot's individual style is like the fingers and how much is the setup I want us to all like explain our setups like rates up tilt whatever and then we'll like fly each other's quads And like see if suddenly I start looking like Skitso when I fly your quad And then we're gonna we're gonna follow it up with we drive each other's cars What? This is a five inch quad top mount a battery 10 15 degree tilt 2.3 millimeter lens Hey, at least is not on 2.8 anymore. This guy was on 2.8. He's on the sniper vision. What about your rate? My rate 750 degrees a second and this is on flight one. So I'm gonna fly my remix mr. Zero tilt here It's not zero exactly right this second, but it's pretty damn low flight one 32 bit I'm doing about 1,300 per second. So it's really high, but really smooth in the center You want to know about my setup? So here's what I'm flying today. This is the holy bro copis 2 It's a ready to fly. This is kind of a weird choice for a freestyle frame because it's a bottom-out battery Which you see more for racing, but I figure let's throw something different in there So I said my cameras at about 30 degrees and that's about where I fly and my rates 1,000 to 1,100 degrees per second these this one is at about a thousand RC rate of 1.3 35 and a super rate of 0.73 and some expo I think point for expo elbow rates Yeah, elbow rates real sharp at the end so I can get snaps. So obviously stingy v2 for me We got a top mount battery but low profile So a little bit lower center of gravity than some of the guys are used to running camera tilt I'm running close to 30 degrees rates I run right at a thousand degrees per second with as much expo as I can get away with without having elbow rates I used to run elbow rates, but then I got tired of the like unpredictable nature at the very end of the stick But that's my set up I'm excited about this Under slum battery in a little ways Cameron. All right I'm rates field super slow Super slow, huh? Oh My god super slow That wasn't that wasn't full stick though. It goes fast that could do a full go up and do it like a full full deflection roll There you go. He's just not deflecting the stick all the way I think so you're running 1300, but I bet you're not actually pushing all the way to full deflection to hit that 1300 this thing feels like I don't know it feels way different. If I was good though, maybe I need to slow my rates down There you go. See there was a little snappy look back I've been slowing my rates down actually I used to run closer to 1100 and I found that I was almost never going to full stick when I watched the black box So I wasn't even really getting it. I was just taking away resolution Maybe not as far as this This is a little extreme, but what do you like about what you see in here that's making you say that it just feels a lot more controlled Well, it's mostly telling like hanging on by the seat of my pants. How'd the up tilt feel you fly with a lot less up tilt though Yes, it feels good. I mean I'm pretty happy with it a lot different a lot different. Oh my god Kevin does Well, no not at all. It's just gonna be a K in my book Long-term game of quad, but nobody's got anything yet. Anybody can throw it down and it's not a one-try go It's like you can break all of your trying to get the one trick. It's gonna be good But you have to pull it off first. You guys got started yesterday. Didn't you? Yeah, you broke a bunch of All right, I see what's going on like mine I have you know 30 degrees of up tilt so I'm always doing the fast movements But it's just a little bit different in the terms of mixing on the yaw and roll But like once you get used to that it's pretty easy Haven't done full stick it whoa Okay, yeah, I don't need all of that. That is a lot. Yes Oh Okay, location one security didn't want us there so we are here at location two and oh my god It is fall. We got all the colors Camera angle is looking very different so if I want to go fast. I got to like bury the The horizon for a second. What do you think about like see I just like I Look away from the hole as I've throttle at it. It's just a different experience There's a group of trees over here that I know have a hole in them. Oh, yeah, that's scary Coming at it with that low of a camera till you got it. Come on do it Nice Let me see if I can power up out of one You want a maddie Do you want to see if I can maddie flip your quad? Oh my god. That's a bad idea Come on. Just do it. He should really set letters with his own watch, isn't he? Whatever don't do it. I thought you were gonna do it twice For you to do on your quad Killing it though with it definitely killed it. All right. Who's up next? I'm up. I'm gonna fly skits this quad You know some bass players are just like up here rex now. I'm gonna get the full schizo experience I am not gonna change the next strap. I'm doing it all Yeah, some bass players are down here. Some of them are up here. He's one of these guys It's got decent power. Wow you wow That's fascinating. You're that's so that is What is this? Wow? Wow? I got Full stick right there. We do it talking about my rates full stick It's not slow, but something about your curve the way the curve is the way it comes on is really smooth and just wow You know one of the questions I wanted to address it It is how much of a pilot's style is their setup and you flew like this when you were on You know just be whatever way back in the day But I can definitely see you've tuned this to your style though the rate curve is I feel like I look more like Schizo than I do when I fly my own quad I'll say that when I hit that what is normally a kind of a snappier Position I go with more of a like kind of a loose feel That's full stick there, but there's something about the rate the curve is well as I bring it back It doesn't have that elbow. So I get there's no abrupt changes in the quad speed That is really nice to fly actually. I'm not sure I would like choose it for myself every day But it's really kind of relaxing. All right, let's see if we can do some faster stuff Okay, I can so your lack of up tilt is one reason I bet it makes a very long straight Yeah, because we're not really I'm staying way down in the throttle is crew crew even if I try and go faster I can't I lose the horizon if I try and go faster So I never am like above half throttle That is something if you're trying to get longer battery life going to less up tilt will will definitely help with that Oh, I'm gonna stop flying just but not you know normally I kill the battery But it's just taking forever and you know, I feel like I'm hogging all the time Yep, I really want it to be a little more dynamic to get a little pop But I see how I like that you don't fly like that and your style definitely I bet you could fly like that you just have to fight it a little and this is very set up for your style Interesting like Mad Max stick in look at these behemoths Like how much was a pinch these you're not you're just flying with thumbs, okay? Maybe I should try thumbs dude. What if you did this this hold it like that. Oh, it's not gonna be good I'll try it all right down here. We go skin so plus thumbs Is that normal? Yeah, just why I don't always have a perfect setup. Is this for us? No, that's why I suck I suck with thumbs. I regret this decision All right, if you suck with thumbs, just don't fly at full speed full speed You can't help it. You're at like a 90 degree tilt. Oh god. I can't slow down. Oh my god your rates Why Oh god, how do you do any acro in this? Okay, I Like when I full throttle all I do is just go full. I just go straight into the object instead of over We're doing acro here. Yeah, I mean I look gimpy But see if you can power live something. Are you sure? Yeah? Oh God, I went to the stratosphere on that one. It's pretty it's pretty locked though I mean it goes where I point it which is important. Holy flippy dippies. I Love how you're like not used to He can't be precise with this stick it's so intense he's flying thumbs and thumbs I agree You're not used to like smoothing like how much do I have to pivot give it the old school having to look at the clouds to slow down Actually, it's not that bad. Yeah, you can basically hover thumbs is still horrifying always will be It just doesn't feel like so when I first started flying I flew thumbs because I thought that was the natural like that's how you play Xbox, right? Yeah, and it just doesn't translate the same on that it just feels weird because like for one an Xbox You don't go like 15 feet either direction with the good because that's the one thing I don't like about the tyrannous the gimbals are like they're very the throws are really far for me Yeah, they are and you get just got to be used to that Little solar fox you can find me on YouTube or Instagram. I fly lately. I've been flying a nova I use about 20 25 degrees on the camera No, no, I've flown lots of underslung. I just don't fly No, I've flown many of them just I'll bet you wouldn't notice the difference You were talking earlier you said you felt that the gimbals felt real tight. Yeah, you're a throttle feels like it's really tight Um, I keep mine really loose. I guess how do the rates feel good very tight like seems like you're in control of them Yeah, I know you're having trouble with the faster rates. No, I've got lots of other people squads pretty often My brother I fly his stuff when my stuff's down. I notice you're really hammering the throttle You really just punch in the throttle and accelerating That was exciting That's a underslung battery. That's the big downside of an underslung battery. I don't think it's the flight performance I think it's that when you skim the deck you hit your battery. It's different. It's fast Like I said, I've been flying skits those rates and his rates are really you flew his right? Yeah So, you know, yeah, like it makes you go slow. Yeah, his up tilt makes you go slow Like you're hitting the throttle and you're picking up a lot of speed. I think we should bring it in I think we're getting getting down there. Where's the disarm button? This one yeah It's a lot faster than what I've been flying lately that's for sure It's different the pendulum like it definitely it swings really differently than the Nova does for sure Whatever you're flying you should try some other stuff try other up tilts try other rates the quad flies and feels really different It'll change up your flying skills to not skills But your patterns what you're used to doing with me flying zero tilt and then flying his quad that has an actual tilt It makes me fly completely different So it'll change up a little bit might not be necessary that you stick with one and here's the thing The first pack you're gonna hate it. You're gonna be like it's this is terrible Give it five or six packs to find what's good about the different thing you're trying and then go back to the way You like it, maybe but everything will be changed back. 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