 Good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Porter, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the Commission's weekly webinar series where we cover a variety of topics that may be of interest to libraries. We broadcast the show live every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. Central Time, but if you're unable to join us on Wednesdays, that's fine. We do record the show as we are doing today, and then it is available for you to watch anytime at your convenience. Both the live show and the recordings are free and open to anyone to watch. So please do share with your friends, family, neighbors, colleagues, anyone you think might be interested in any of the topics we have on the show. And I'll show you at the end of today's show where you can access all of our archives. For those possibly not from Nebraska, the Nebraska Library Commission is the state agency for libraries in Nebraska. So we provide services to all types of libraries in the state. So you'll find shows on Encompass Live for all types of libraries. Public, academic, K-12, museums, archives, corrections, historical societies really are only criteria. Is it something to do with libraries? We do book reviews, interviews, mini-training sessions, demos of services and products, all sorts of things. We have a Nebraska Library Commission staff that sometimes do presentations for us on topics of things that we're doing here at the commission, but we also bring in guest speakers. And that's what we have with us this morning. Today with us is Rochelle Reeves. Good morning, Rochelle. Good morning. And she is from University of Nebraska at Kearney. And she is going to talk to us about e-documents in the classroom, of docs. Some people, it's their favorite topic. Some people, it's painful to deal with them. But that's why we have people like Rochelle who can help us navigate all of this. So I'll just hand it over to you to tell us, you know, introduce yourself a little more and tell us all about how we can access these resources. Great. Well, I first did this presentation at the Nebraska Library Conference and Library Association Conference last month. And one of the things that, as I was looking for a topic, what can I present on? Well, I'm the curriculum librarian. I'm the OER librarian and I'm the government documents librarian. And honestly, e-documents really in the classroom really encompasses all of my job areas. And so, you know, looking at particularly at K-12, these are all free, freely accessible, and they're from the government. So that just kind of took all of my knowledge. I don't know if I want to say expertise. Yeah. So that's where this came from. So I guess I'll get started here. Where do all of these documents come from? Well, they come from the government. And this is just a neat little chart that I found in the U.S. government manual, one of the many little treasures that we have access to. So of course, there's the three branches. And then there's departments underneath those branches. And then there's all kinds of independent agencies, establishments, corporations, and they all come out with documents every month. Every month there's new stuff. And so that's where this comes from. And the University of Nebraska, Carney Library, is a federal depository library. We're a part of that program. We are a selective library where UNL is the regional library. So we can select those few things that we want to have in our collection. But really, with the advent of the internet and things being put online, it's just opened it up. We represent the third congressional district. And so that's a lot of space, you know, basically between us and Colorado Wyoming. And so for people to have had to come here to get this information was much more difficult. So now these are available online. Awesome. And I'll mention here before we go off this slide, because this is a lot on one side and you possibly can't read it very well. That's okay. Everyone will have access to the slides afterwards with the recording. Yes. Yes. She was going to send me her slide deck here until you'll be able to read this a little easier on your own computer possibly. And also she has links there where she got this from Tuesday to be able to find this. This is true. Yes, it is one of those free resources. So yes, you will be able to see this a little better. But I think even without being able to read it just kind of illustrates the hierarchy of where these come from. And so what are they? Well, it depends on which branch you are looking at. The executive branch has their list. The legislative branch has their hearings, reports, all the bills and laws and the judicial branch, of course, opinions, journals, transcripts. And why use them? Well, Mr. Franklin here tells me that they are primary documents and their open access. So particularly for schools who have limited resources, home school, homeschoolers definitely can take advantage of this. And they're with an internet connection, they're they're freely accessible. Where do I find them? When do I use them? How, where are they? That's a question that I get quite often. And there are so many places that you can go. And they are fun. Obviously, I've I've grabbed onto Benjamin Franklin here. Ben's guide to the US government is huge. And what I like about it is they have the different ages broken down. And depending on what you click on, if you're talking about Native Americans, just say what is offered for ages four through eight is going to be different than what's offered for ages 14 and up. So it it scaffolds all kinds of games and different adventures that you can go on just to try to make learning fun. And I've got the link here that you'll be able to go to. There are so many sites out there. And just because you're working with youth doesn't mean that they're not going to be able to utilize those adult sites as well. So I do have a lib guide that I've created that's for all the documents, but there's also a youth section. And so when I click on that and okay, can you see that? Okay. So we have it broken down by all of the different areas here. But then there is a special one for youth. And broken down, I, I be scrolling for a while here. So know that you will be able to scroll to your to your heart's content. There are so many here. Some of them are appropriate for all ages. Some are just for teachers and educators, middle schoolers, but generally speaking, they are broken down by category and then offer something something to you something different to break up maybe what you're already doing in class. So I've received questions. Can I link to this? Absolutely. Absolutely. You can link to it. We would love that if if you have a page that people would go to and and would find this helpful. Absolutely. That would be good that you mentioned that we did that was one of the questions someone wanted to know is like so this is something that's on the UNK website at the university. But it's publicly available. There's no special. It's not like it's something just for the students. They are some special place you have to log into. It's just correct. Yeah, and and that's the that's the neat thing about documents, the government documents is we do need to make them freely available. And so how do we how do we do that without some kind of a log in? Well, we just make sure that that's separate from from where we have maybe the databases, for instance. So yes, I'm I'm more than happy to have you link to this. Oftentimes, you know, we're thinking of just history or or government topics, but there's STEM resources. So NASA. Oh, I could spend so much time on the NASA site. It is so cool. But they have NASA Space Place and STEM engagement with games, videos, crafts, climate. Click on one. I have a poor connection today for some reason. So there's stuff here that that they can click on. It is so much fun. And if you go here to educators, it's it's kind of not updated as far as maybe the graphics go, but it's really fun. And one of the things that I thought was timely. Yes, a pumpkin. Oh, for car. Oh, for carving pumpkins. Yeah, they suggest I mean, for safety here, all they're doing is using a magic marker. Oh, so if you want to just do it that way, it shows you how to do that. Or then you could take a little chisel and, you know, do that too. But there's just all kinds of things that you can do with your students or have them, you know, say, we've got some extra time, go here and and that can be just a part of your core extension. I know coming up in the next couple of years, and this may be something that will give some people some bad bad memories, but a couple of solar eclipses are coming up in 2023 and 2024. And I know a lot of schools and libraries will know none of them are going through here in Nebraska, unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your point of view this time. But you know, do you want to teach about it? They would NASA have things like that or? Absolutely, just regular nasa.gov has, you know, I was focused more on the lower end. But like I mentioned before, all those other sites are available as well. So there's generally speaking, there's the adult version and the kids version. And then I had had a question once before about is are any of these sites available in Spanish? So I believe that says maybe view view or see in Spanish. But when I did a search just on, you know, what what government sites are available in Spanish? I came up pretty empty. You know, things like child welfare services, they have some some resources that are available in Spanish, but no, I'm for kids. There, I couldn't find a lot that were advertised that way. So, you know, NASA does have just on their own a little spot here that you can click on to switch it over to Spanish. That's good. They know we do have a lot of people speaking other languages here in Nebraska. Yeah, absolutely. And and it's sure, you know, we've we've they're they're going to be learning in English as well. But oh, can make it a lot easier if they have some some options and helps them learn. Yeah, they can see what they know and then switch it over to the English and say, ah, that's what that word is now. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's what I did when I was taken German class. You want to be able to know if you're on the right track. Let's see. Oops. Well, I guess that's I lost my presentation. I can see down the bottom there. Yeah, there's your part. Yeah. So all kinds of things to do with climate, energy, science fair experiments. I mean, how many times do kids say, well, what should I do or or, you know, they're asking their their teachers? What are what are my options? And this is a great place to go to to find those classroom and project ideas and the US Geological Survey has lesson plans, activities, videos. So lots of great things. I can just know things. Yeah, if you can, since this is a big topic, the NASA, so each of these here in the slides, these are links to each of those specific pages, correct? Yes. When you have the slides, OK, can we see the NASA STEM one? That's one of the big lots of libraries are working on that. So here we can browse for students or for educators. See, that's where you are. Yeah. Yeah. And it shows, you know, what do I want? Well, or what topic am I looking at? So and then for students. Oops, there we go. Looks like it's it's the same for both. So but yeah, making preschool fun. And so you can go. Here. STEM on the station. Nice. So yeah. And you can have a weekly STEM connection so you can sign up for weekly STEM updates. Oh, nice. Maybe ideas because it's always hard to come up with new ideas. I know it is and. You know, who isn't interested in space, right? So this is just for grades 9 through 12. And different challenges, different things for for them to do. Hmm. So I think this would be a great place to go to for those different projects. Sorry. Yeah. And so the geological survey has educational resources. It's not as it's not as fun to find. I can't remember where I found it. But they're they're it truly the stuff is there. So. So yeah, each one of these is a different link to get you different places and find more materials. Labor statistics. So maybe you're interested in talking about careers and kids want to know. Well, what would I what kind of education would I need to have to be this particular labor? And the occupational outlook handbook is one place to go. Usually more for the upper grades because it's more detailed. But there's also this career exploration just for grades K through 12. Yeah, I remember using occupational handbook. Yeah, when I was older, like you're about to graduate or you're in college and trying to figure out what to do with your life. Or we're using you know, helping people use that. But this is nice. They have something for the younger ages. Yeah, it is. And you know, the nice thing about these products is it can they can help fulfill dreams. I had a student that came in and she was a freshman in college, but you know, not far off of this, right? And she was supposed to find information for a speech that she was going to have to give. And it was about what she wanted to end up being what she wanted to end up doing. And what she wanted to be was something with the Yankees, the New York Yankees. She was really into baseball and she just wanted some kind of a job that, you know, may do some money that that she could be with her team. So we had to find also had to find an actual job. Um, notice. So is there a job out there that has your your information? And so we looked through and we found a job out there in some newspaper that was perfect for her. She was able to find that then in the occupational outlook handbook, find out more information, what kind of classes they want you to take, what kind of degree, how much money you'd make. And she left the library beaming because she found out that there was a job out there exactly like what she wanted and she found out what she would need to do to get there. So that was really one of the highlights of my, probably my only occupational outlook handbook highlight. But it stands out in my mind. That's awesome. Yeah. And who knows how many people have done that on their own that just didn't, you know, didn't work with you. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. History and government. We got to include that, right? There are all of the core documents and kids in the house, it's from the clerk of the house. So contains information. So how a bill becomes a law, not the one I remember, but yeah, the schoolhouse rock one. Yes, that's a grain in my head. I love it. Yeah. So, but Cheryl Johnson's the clerk of the US House of Representatives and she has this broken down here for young learners all the way up to high schoolers. And then here's a teacher's section as well for other resources and activities. This one is one of my favorites. I mean, you know, books. Hello. But this is from the US Senate. And so if you are looking for a place that has specific books about specific parts of the government, you can click on that and that will talk about the different books that are out there on that topic. So you don't have to go out and reinvent the wheel. There we go. So again, each one of these different clickable links I see that one about the our documents, the upper right. Oh, talked about National. Where is it? History Day. I know I've seen heard of a lot of librarians helping having kids come in and just like, you know, mob them with, okay, I've got to do a thing for National History Day help. Yeah, because they're not necessarily doing that for a class. Sometimes it's on their own. So, yeah, there's information here and, you know, it may or may not fit the actual topic because each each year of History Day has a specific theme. Yeah. Yeah. So it may or may not fit, but there's a lot here. And these are these the documents are actually scanned in too for seeing the actual the originals. There we go. Yeah. So yeah, it's got here, but then also you can see the old timey version, the kind that maybe they can't read with the handwriting. But yeah, so there's a lot of stuff here for so many different sources, so many different reasons. One of my favorites is Constitution Day. That's my birthday. Not back then, but much later. So the U.S. Department of Ed National Endowment for the Humanities Library of Congress, American Memory, some of those same documents and then Statistics and Schools. You can get that email to you as well. And just for the various holidays or special days, they put out a an email and you can read that and go to more information. So when you get the email, this is what it ends up going to. Here's the statistics and schools. So it talks a little bit about it and then has these fun facts. So you can download the teaching guide and also the the poster and then that's something that you could have on a bulletin board or you could just use that in class, but specific to that day. So it's kind of fun to mix things up and if you have special days that are coming up, you can do something specific for that or do crafts with that. Yeah, there's a lot of different fun things that a person can do. They would have things for other holidays or other specific dates as well. Oh yeah, Valentine's Day, St. Patrick's Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas, yeah. And yeah, so there's even some more obscure ones. I mean, I suppose Constitution Day might be one of those that, you know, a lot of people don't think about and because we don't get it off, you know, we have to work that and so they it would just be I think a fun thing to add to your curriculum. And so here's their teacher's guide and then guiding questions. So as we all know when we ask anyone if they have any questions, particularly in in maybe the K-12 or even college age group, you just hear crickets and so there's some different ways that maybe we can get that conversation going. And this would be another great one for History Day as well. Here's K-12 lesson plans. And then also recommended websites. So a lot of information not just on this page, but to take to other pages. And here's a little bigger version there. Of the Constitution Day. So it gives it gives information about the presidents and taxes, quartering, and then broken down by elementary, middle school and high school level. I really enjoy. Things for to start teaching the kids. Yeah, our kids. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and apportionment. I my son was just talking about apportionment and how he's he's learning about that in school. So it was, you know, there's some things that that we can even as parents point them to or or maybe brush up on our government a little bit. Okay. We've kind of talked about this one. This is not necessarily a government thing, but I have found some of the schoolhouse rocks available on YouTube and you can go to congress.gov for that information process of how law are made. I was trying to tell my son he's 13 and he's just a 13 year old boy. He was telling me about how they have to learn how to preamble to the Constitution for school. And so I said, oh my gosh, and I started singing it. Yes, I and he just look like you were crazy. Yes, we had to learn that in school too. And I and the way I wrote it down on my test was singing that and you could hear all the other kids doing the little home. Yeah, that is exactly what I told him. It's been brained into our brains. Yes, Saturday morning cartoon time. And and it worked. Yeah. And so I told him I said, oh, you know, I can help you with this. And yeah, he thought I was lame, but it's true. These things are out there and they are fun and they're helpful. Music is a great way to learn. So I endorsed schoolhouse rock. Um, so what are what are the limitations of using? E documents in the classroom or at home? I actually didn't think of this. My son was the one that that thought of limitations because he was asking me about the presentation. Last month and he said, well, what are your limitations? And I said, I don't know. And he said, well, why shouldn't people use documents? And I said, I can't think of any reason because you have to. We learn about this in school. If you don't come up with limitations, that's propaganda. Oh, listen to the children. Yes. Okay. And they shall leave the way. And so, um, um, he really hates this part. That's him. And that's him now. But, um, I have to give him credit because, um, I did come up with a couple. Um, you have to have that solid internet connection, which, you know, mine is a little spotty today. Um, example. Yeah. In practice, it doesn't always. Yeah. Yeah. Is it always available? It's not always available. And during government shutdowns, a lot of, um, a lot of the pages, they don't just not get updated, but they completely go away. Um, I've never really understood that, but I'm sure there's some political reason for that. Um, the other thing though, during the pandemic, um, we really learned that not everyone has a device. Yes. The device itself. Yes. Somebody use it on. Yeah. And the libraries were shut down. The schools were shut down. So they didn't, if they needed a device and they needed that solid internet connection, where would they go? You know, you can take your device, even if you have one down to the public library and you can get that internet connection. You can go to a coffee shop. Well, these were all shut down. So there are limitations even to these free resources. And some people, their device is, um, if the minimum is their telephone, which is great for some things. But for looking on the screen at a doubt, no, at government document, that would probably be painful. That would be really painful. Yeah. It's, um, so definitely find the links to things if they have that, but then what? Yeah. Exactly. So, um, those were, those were definitely solid limitations. Oh, that's a good thing. Now the, you know, some of the libraries now, many libraries now all schools have the one to one sometimes of giving devices out if they can. But I know many more libraries now, and it was happening before on the pandemic started as well, doing the loaning of either devices, tablets or hotspots to get them the internet too. At their homes or wherever they are. So hopefully, you know, that's we're helping out. Yes, we're trying and we're learning. We're learning what we need to do. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So, um, yeah, questions. Does anybody have any questions for Rachel? Anything you want to ask type into the questions section of your go to webinar interface? Anything you want to know about any of the government documents that are out there? Anything you want her to share or show that we haven't seen yet? Go ahead and type and I'll grab your questions. I did have one question that came in. You had mentioned the very beginning about, um, UNL is a regional library and you and K is a select selective. Yeah. What's the difference between? Absolutely. So, um, a selective library, um, such as UNK, um, we select the items that we want to, to have, um, available. So each only the government could come up with this system. Um, there are different item numbers that go with different committees and, and so you might have manuals or handbooks or just other informational stuff. Those all have different item numbers. And so we select those ones that we think are best for this area for our students. The regional, however, uh, we answer to the regional, um, every selective answers to a regional, um, ours is Lincoln and they have everything. So they don't get to select everything like a full depository so every government document, they would everything that's put out, they would have. Yes. So they were not physically, not like, not electronically. Yes. Those that are physical, I believe they have the physical. Um, there are some committees that aren't doing physical anymore, which, you know, saves a certain amount of money, saves some paper. Um, and so those would be available electronically. So there, I mean, that's good and bad, right? And the access is there. Um, but what if the access isn't there? What happens to that information? What happens to those documents? I do know a lot of government access, state government documents that we collect here at the library commission to that we get copies of our, um, scanned and available online, a lot of them. But yeah, like you said, those limitations. You have to keep those in mind, even though the other sole presentation is about how so much great stuff is out there online, but there's going to be times when you can't use it and that's okay. You know, plan accordingly. There are the paper versions of them somewhere. Yeah, we hope. Yeah, I don't, I, some of them, I don't know. I don't know if there's any paper out there. Like you said, because that was something, a question came in about like, you know, you talk about all these things are online now. How long has the government been doing this kind of scanning of online? What's the history of it? I mean, oh goodness. Um, quite a while. Um, maybe a good tendon to 12 years at least. Um, they've been historical scanning or historical putting things up some of them. They are, yeah. They have been, they have been going backwards. I think we're back to maybe 1990 online. So, um, we're getting there. Yeah, not bad. Not bad. Yeah. Um, and it takes time. I know here and if anyone's ever done, I know many libraries have done a digitization project. It can, it takes a long, it can take some six time to go all the way back depending on how far going to be trying to do. Yeah. And think of that, that first page that had all of the committees and, and agencies. That's probably not all of them, but that's, that's what was listed in the, in the government manual, every one of those has thousands and thousands of documents that need updated or put online. So it's pages are coming out new new pages coming out every day. Yeah. Yes. Um, another question we have, um, so it's curious about government documents for agriculture. Mm hmm. Yeah. Let me go back. Yeah. Um, oh, it was on the, um, this one, the lip guide and then go to youth at your page. Yeah. Um, there were more. Um, and for some reason, um, they, they took down some of the, the best ones. Um, but this is for all age groups. Nice. Okay. And so library. And, uh, I went to my, you can tell I went to my American farm games. I wanted to see what that was, um, youth in agriculture, some coloring stuff, um, farmers market. Market. Oh, so yeah, that's kind of, um, sometimes thinking outside of the box. So if we, um, are looking at agriculture, um, we can also maybe do something with finance, you know, that farmers market, uh, careers. We could do some career exploration, uh, communities. Maybe, uh, might be stuff environment. So, um, even now under a lot of other topics. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So even though, um, we're not necessarily, um, placing it under agriculture, um, I think there's a lot of different, um, topics that you can put together to, um, really make a robust. Lesson. All right. Thank you. Yes. They, they said, thank you very much. That's good info and good tips. Absolutely. Yeah. Especially here in Nebraska agriculture, obviously it's going to be a big topic for many of the, of the kids. Um, oh, okay. So you went to some of the pages. Someone wants to know if you can do, um, show a little bit of that, that first, the one, the Ben Franklin website, that cute one. Do it, show a demo. Yeah. Ben's guide. Yeah. I want to see what that one looks like. Someone wants to say, can you go for the kids? Mm hmm. Show a little bit about how that one works. I like different age, but splitting up there of everything that's. I do too. And you can, um, there's learning and adventures and games and you can just, um, also go to the apprentice level and look at the branches of government, how laws are made, symbols, song structures. Mm hmm. Those historical documents. Lots of places that you can access those documents. And then, you know, learning about the tribes. Um, see there's games. So yeah, testing knowledge, you can do different games, geography, crosswords, word searches. Those are, um, we print those off sometimes when we have the pause groups or summer fun club groups come in, um, for different, uh, things for them to do. We just try to have a lot of different options. Nice. And then test your knowledge with branchomania. So interactive online interactive game. Yeah. Yeah. That's good too. If they do have, because we're talking about limitations and the kind of drink connection, if you have the internet connection, good, you can do these or you've got those things you can print out and just hand them here, do this crossword puzzle or always have a backup because you never know. You never know. I'm sure we've all, yeah. Nice. All right. All right. All right. That's all the questions that had come in so far. Uh, is anybody have any other questions? You want to watch, uh, you want to ask or anything else you want to see any particular section of, um, government documents or government that you were interested in seeing that, um, we haven't looked closer at today. Go ahead and type into your question section. I say this is great information. I'm so glad there's so much more of this because government documents has always been daunting. I think it's a huge, well, I know if I'm working at it previously at a university library was also a selective one. It's still huge. There's just so much to keep track of. And it's just, there's a lot. Yeah. Um, having these places of kind of narrowed it down to, you know, someone else doing this work and narrowing it down to these age groups and everything and having it available for us is really helpful. And hopefully more of our schools and libraries, public libraries will be able to use this for some new programs or. Yeah. I think, you know, sometimes the, the hardest part is identifying those resources. And so if they're identified, it, it certainly makes it a less daunting process. Yeah. And that lib guide you have out there is great. Yeah. I've, I've looked at that and it's got everything kind of like a one stop shopping of whatever is out there that you can possibly use. Well, good try. Oh, yes. No pressure. Well, I don't see any other desperate questions coming in right now. We're almost to the end of our hour. So that's good. We just started a little late, but that's, that's okay. Not too late. I don't think. Yeah. Well, I think we'll wrap up for today that if nobody has any questions, um, any, like I said, the slides will be available, which will have a link to Rochelle's lib guide. So then if you do have other questions as gut, your contact info is on there as well. Correct. So people can read you from there, the email or anything on that as well. Um, any last words for today before I, uh, well, thank you, um, for inviting me to speak and, um, we are not just here for, um, the faculty and staff here on the UNK campus. Uh, we are also a public library. So, uh, please reach out. Um, I, I, uh, serve the third congressional district or the depository does. So, um, I'm here for a large chunk of people and not just for, for those specific ones, but for everybody. So the UNK library is open for, if people wanted to get anyone was happy in the area. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. You can, you can certainly drop in. Thanks. That's good to know. Cause not some, some university libraries are, are not that, are not an idea or something to get into. So, yeah, no, we are, we are completely open. Nice. All right. All right. Well, thank you so much for so I'm so glad you were able to do this. Also, it was yes, short notice to, um, getting you on the show, but we got it done and I'm glad people were here and got some questions answered. Um, we'll get the recording up for this. Um, and so more people will be able to see. Um, as I said, this was a session that was done at our state conference, the Rascal Library Association Conference, uh, last month. Um, so I always like to bring some of those sessions on Tech of Us Live to, um, get, give more people a chance to hear, um, some of these great presentations that were this year, um, only done in person. All right. I am going to pull presenter control back to my screen now so I can do my little wrap up here. There it is. So here is the, um, today's, uh, session. Um, if I go back to my Encompass Live page here, we've got our upcoming shows listed, but here is the link to our archives, um, right underneath all the upcoming shows, the most recent ones at the top of the page. So today's show will be up there. Should be up by the end of the day tomorrow. Everyone who attended and, um, registered for today's show will get an email from me letting you know when it's available. I'll have a link to the recording on our YouTube channel and a link to the slides. Michelle, make sure you send me those slides when you get a chance. I will do that right away. Yeah. And, um, that will be up here for you, um, to watch. Well, I'm here. I'll show you this is, um, there's a search feature for our show archive. So if you want to look for a particular topic, see if we've done something, you can do that. Uh, we can, you can limit it to just the most recent 12 months, most recent year. If you want, if you want something just very current, um, and that is because this is our full show archives. I am not going to scroll all the way down because this is huge. Um, going all the way back to January 2009, which is when encompass live first premiered. So do be aware when you are watching any recordings of the show. Um, many of them will stand the test of the time, test of time and still be good, valid info, but some things will become old outdated. Services and resources may have changed drastically or may no longer exist. Um, staff may be at different libraries now, but just pay attention. They all have an original broadcast date that you can check and so you'll know when that particular show actually happened and take that into consideration when you are watching any of our recordings. We do also have a Facebook page. If you like to use Facebook, give us a like over there and you'll get notifications of when our sessions are happening. Little intros to our, um, meet the presenters. And I do post on here, um, when the recordings are available as well. Um, you can also shut fall, follow our hashtag and come live also on Twitter or Instagram. Uh, so, um, give us a like over there. If you want to follow what we're doing there. Um, so that'll wrap it up before today's show. Thank you everybody for being here. Thank you for yourself for joining me this morning. Um, I hope you join us. Here's our upcoming shows and we've already started scheduling things into 2023. Okay. Um, but things are getting, um, put on the calendar. So you'll see some more of these dates will get filled in. Um, uh, next week, our topic will be, um, reaching your military affiliate affiliated patrons with the libraries and veterans toolkit. Um, this is a great guide online again, um, that can help you with that from the, um, libraries and veterans national forums. So, um, please do sign up for that if you're interested or any of our other upcoming shows and keep an eye out for, um, going to be filling in some of these November and December dates with topics as well. So thank you everybody for being here and hopefully we'll see you all on a future episode of Encompass Live. Bye-bye.