 Malim Ukombo, h issues tum сюда kuii nihua maikana malimedinga yang kutenguri chawek h barbecue qthu umsufutwo kyu kuomizi zola mnowa Mirupata moni lupa maikana meibi na ideaets didaki Nkw люди ilu apaha mamima Matiolo, Websikir Corinthi risaugia Kendi maikana mkivicoנya kuliko mnagila Hakuba na taliti kokuzakimita choi Umbemi wakare icuf resetu Kauha kutу puni apertu As香港ili maika maola ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... but you never get to know where they vanished. That's where we used to have that initial problem, but what the Kenyarakbino now is doing is tracking down those players and looking at their pathway. And that's why we're able to get these players to Kenyarakbino and we talk to them and we'll also be able to advise them on the direction they are supposed to take. But you know in the past a guy, you'd be able to just get a good guy probably playing for Kamega or probably Murumishiri High School, they go to, like I took them to East Africa and we won rugby sevens, that's in Gulu in 2018. But see now quite some of the guys who disappeared. But see now we can be able to take these guys and win East Africa. That means these are the guys that you're supposed to track them and be able to put them in the right condition and the right pathway so they can be able to represent the national team. But at times some of them disappear. One of the reasons they disappear is because they don't get a good club. Some of them relocate to different places where there's no rugby. At times there's also commitment with the education and also pressure from the parents. They want them to study and like the sports. Because that's our curriculum also. We also blame the school curriculum where it doesn't identify the talents because they emphasize so much on the results at school and once someone has not performed well in school then that means now that's the end of life for this guy. Now things are going on. The curriculum is also changing and we are also advising the stakeholders of education on the different parts they are supposed to take. Like what the Western countries have taken where they just have a curriculum for sports. And that's where we have been having an issue. Also curriculum has also contributed to a big role of these players being disappearing. But what we've put now in place are probably the regions and we also have the regional development officers who are monitoring these players as a country and bringing them together. I think we will now be able to track them. But initially that was the key problem where these players used to... Outstanding players actually could be able to just disappear. Can yourself you are at Apahil and you know nowadays Apahil doesn't channel a lot of talent to the national teams because my friend Pito Rero now Kibura member of parliament left and joined Jamuri. It boils down to the passion of these teachers. Prominent teacher as well so he knows and understands better. But I'm sure you are in agreement that the school has been very paramount in shaping the development of the game locally. Not only rugby but football as well. As he said, you get nothing for playing rugby. They just focus on the academics mostly because after you've played for the 3-4 years everything comes down to the case you see. That's what it comes down to. That's how you find many people when they choose cases here and they do it and they do not get enough marks to go to university. They even stop playing the game. They should have a system that ensures whatever grade you take there is something to carry on. Because talent is not dependent on academic excellence. You can get the grade you get whichever it is but still play rugby. So I feel like they should be a system like if we look at how American sports is they always get the athletes not from academies and all they get them from high schools and universities because they are like the NBA and even we have seen it happen in the MLS in the American football something like that has really helped US. We've seen it how it's helped them they've made the world cup they have a really young squad and also if you look at the NBA the best players all the best they are drafted through the high schools and some of them early college so you can't blend the two it's just that the curriculum here in Kenya has not allowed it to happen so I feel like moving forward because high schools, universities a lot of young players together there's no limit to the number of players you can get in a term 10, 15 so they have to find a way to totally integrate the ones who want to keep on studying they keep on studying but the ones who want to play seriously there's an avenue that takes them. We saw why during the just concluded Kenya sport secondary school association games we saw new champions in my local school when I threw a stone from my home to that school I think it's just a few miles away Koyonzo doing very well and performing excellently good as far as the school games are concerned alongside Butula and I think they went to East African school games the heavyweights the teams that we used to performing very well in Kakamega schools in Pitas, Mumias not doing better which means there is the games are growing Ya but it also depends you are saying the games are growing and when you have new schools also coming up and winning I think it's something quite good unlike when we just have the usual schools winning though in other countries you could find as playing rugby schools we always go and win the championship like Peru in South Africa that's in Cape Town you see just predominantly known for rugby and like Namiliangu in Uganda those are ginger school Koyonzo but now you see in Kenya the issue is about the Ketri police and Ketri police say normally these schools are managed by the principals and we have some principals who are pro sports and others just pro academic so once a principal is posted and the others are both they balance that's very good but probably you can be able to see some schools that we are doing so well like Lennana Nairobi school you can be able to see Mapa Hill Diagoreti Ya St. Mary's you can be able to Kakamega school but see now what's happening now you see now because some of these principals probably they were posted to other schools so the one who came in there was that issue of the localization so they had to come in with their own methods of operation and that's where now the sports in some of these schools has appeared but think what's supposed to do the way you say the curriculum they must have the curriculum where even these principals and the managers of the school they should be told sports will be a priority and once that one is a priority because we have athletes who earn millions of money and they generate a lot of income from sports and once that is done you identify the talent of the students and then you bring it up when I went to Morimshira school these are schools from Eastland the people wondering how can they play rugby but I said I have interest and these guys are here I'll be able to identify them they defied all the holes they won and the nationals won they went to Africa and they were champions of this Africa and that tells us there's a lot of talent in this particular school that can be able to be tapped but now it also depends on the schools especially for the curriculum activities once that one is put it works out well and the schools be able to do well but this one the way you are saying the unschooled used to do well but now it's not doing well it's just about the management of the school which is not supposed to be it's supposed to be those talents should be able to continue and be channeled up but what we are doing with the Kenya Rack Union what we are doing as much as these schools two weeks ago it was happening before they closed we brought all the schools from that particular region and they were being trained some applied to Busi and all that butla is doing well because the teacher from Umia she moved to butla and that's why butla went to East Africa now it's another guy also in Kuyonzo and now you see Kuyonzo is doing well because there's a teacher who is identifying the talent in that particular school I think from the universities from the colleges they should be able to have the sports teachers to go and train those players but what we are also doing about the universities and colleges we are also training the teachers at the universities and also sports teachers and also the coaches and also in the colleges so when these guys graduate from high school they go to colleges they are able to meet these guys to be able to continue with their sports and that's why you can be able to see what Kuyonzo is doing well because you have a guy there who has been trained by Kenyarak Binyo In the same performance that happened in East Africa school games in Kenya secondary sports school association games needs to be replicated in Kenyakap so that at least that monoton of us getting new champions comes to an end because as we speak Kenyakap is underway and Kabras look like they are the favourites to clinch the championship is that the case we just heard this the third week it is still too early still too early at least you can tell it is shaping up that also tells us of season training that means that the guys Kabras KCB, Blackblatt they had a very nice off season training I remember this is the second season from the covid whereby teams had a very difficult time but once it is happening like that we can be able to but coaches are also trying to assemble their team and see who can play well who can be fit well here so by the third and fourth phase now we can be able to see how the line is shaping but when the team picks up early Kabras and KCB that tells us I think these are the guys for this particular season and they are prepared well though other teams will be able to come in if they need to also maintain that consistency but some coaches also now they can go and back to condition their players so when you have the mid season break when they come back probably in January mid January season you find that now they have condition and they are playing a different type of rugby Western Bulls is a team that I support unfortunately not in Kenyakap you root for which side? Personally I am connected to a team that is in the championship the Falcons rugby and I have been following them and even before looking at the table they have had a couple of university teams in the championship that are doing well and I have looked a lot at the Falcons because they had a great contingent of players who came in they even played for the under 20 guys like Randy Manuel they were selected and went to the under 20 so I ask what do you make of it the number of university teams coming up will there be an offset because Ztec have also been doing U.S.I.U.s there and one of them can make Kenyakap and actually do something great from them for months because we have had Stath Muliwa in Kenyakap for a while without getting other university side KU was there but I think they got relegated and saw us in the machine of U.N. actually they have 3 teams university teams in Kenyakap where the machine was promoted your team now playing then we also have Stath Muliwa University and Kenyakap University initially we used to have also Jiquatu playing well but the way you are saying Falcons coming up well now they are in championship and if they win they will be able to find themselves in the championship but Bozira is doing a good job and Mr. Masiga in terms of recruitment and sometimes they even reach out to me to see if they can be able to get some contact from players who are graduating from high school good players that kind of identifying of the players and checking on their pathway it's key in terms of having a very strong team and that's actually what Desta is doing and Desta is also one of the universities to watch probably the next season they will be the league of Stath Muliwa and Black Blood and Min Machine Malimu generally your last sentiments regarding state of the game Ripper charge coming into that direction they were not successful to qualify for rugby World Cup in France next year and they bowed out but what's the way forward like because 7s and 15s things haven't been quite smooth but we keep crossing our fingers and being hopeful I think just going back and regrouping and coming back stronger I think that's what Simba needs to do but also we look at the mode of Ripper Charge because now it's 2 years consecutive we are there in Paris I think we just need to qualify directly I think that's the way forward just to work out and qualify directly because now we look at which are these teams that have been on their way and what are they doing Namibia has been away Zimo has also been away in terms of denying as an opportunity to qualify for the leading side so what we are supposed to do once we do that because Ripper Charge is a different way if we go for Ripper Charge then we also need to work out in terms of our ranking and preparation because we are meeting different teams which are not the level of African rugby so USA, Portugal USA has been the World Cup Portugal is the same Hong Kong is also different we have won against Hong Kong so we just need to maintain that consistency then we also look at what went wrong for the two Ripper Charge the one in Paris and this one in Dubai what went wrong once we can be able to package ourselves and the coaches look at it and come up with a strong team I think the next 2027 World Cup will be there It's a pleasure speaking to us thank you for coming through and sharing your fantastic insights regarding the state of the game as far as rugby is concerned of course we are going to keep tabs on the same and see how it pans out going forward thank you don't go away stay tuned we are coming back with the analysis of what is happening in Qatar as far as 22nd edition of FIFA World Cup is concerned