 I know a lot of people looking at me. I know a lot of people take direction and inspiration for what I do. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to inspire people to be bad people to do dumb shit. You know what I'm saying? To put people in bad positions. If anything, just be a good dude. Just be solid. You ain't got to make a bunch of money. You ain't got to have the best cars or none of this. Just be a solid dude. That can get you very far in life. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. One on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. That's unique in itself to think to even do that. Like, you guys were real serious about the music early on. I couldn't understand it. I'm like, why was I so caught up on hustle? And they was thinking about music. I couldn't figure it out for a while when I would think about it as I got older. But y'all will focus, man, to be some young kids, man. Come 15, 16 now? Come on, man. I just told you I'm gonna leave my boy at the house. Well, man, we were trying to get out of that town. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That was the thing, right? And if you were an athlete, you know, you had to try to find another pathway because a lot of the people that made it from our town were like athletes, you know what I'm saying? So we had, there was a blueprint for that, right? There was a pipeline for that. If you could play basketball real good, then this person could probably try to help you get to this university or something and you can make it pro, same thing with football. But outside of that, there wasn't really a lot of opportunities and rap was a new thing. So it wasn't guaranteed you wasn't gonna, you was gonna make some real money. I tell people all the time, when nobody rich, when no rich rappers back then, they had nice cars and clothes and jewelry and had some money, but when no rappers rich back then. So why did you feel like you could make it? I just wanted to be a part of the culture and I love the music. I fell in love with the music and once I started creating it, I saw it different, you know? And I wanted to see if I was as good as the people that I listened to and thought that I was good, you know? With the hope they would think that I was good. So, you know, once I saw Chad was actually probably gonna make a record of all the people I've been around. I was like, Chad gonna make a record. So I'm like, I'm gonna stick with Chad. And then once we actually made a record and got a record deal, then I was like, all right, this shit is real now. So we need to really start figuring out how to compete with these people. Cause we made music that was good enough to get in the game, but we gotta be able to be able to compete with it. Wow. I mean, you guys, like I said, it's crazy. You, when y'all first, y'all didn't just sign the job, it was a record company before that that y'all signed too, right? UGK? Yeah, yeah. Big time record. Big time. How was that? That was good. Recipe's to Russell Washington. He just passed away. Okay. You know, we were all learning. Like we, nobody involved with the situation knew anything about the music industry. He had a record store. So he understood sales, you know, how to get records, you know, in the wholesalers and one stops and stuff like that. He understood that system. But as far as actually like professionally recording the album and getting it mixed, getting it mastered, getting it pressed and all of that, none of us knew anything. Amazing. You know, we was looking inside them rap magazine, rap pages and stuff like that. They used to have ads where people would be like, we'll press up, you know, 600 CDs for $200 and stuff like that, you know, and cassette tapes and stuff like that. So it was rough. Initially, all our first stuff was strictly cassette tapes. CDs were a very new thing in the industry. And it cost a lot more than cassette tapes was still a lot cheaper to do. So we found somebody that could make the cassette tape. Then we had to find somebody who could print the, who could press the cassettes, write the actual physical cassette tape. My partner, Steve Adams, just a friend of mine who had the best camera. I knew, came and took the pictures and pulled Arthur. So we were just trying to figure this all out as we went along. We didn't know nothing about it. And just so having that the music was jamming. It was jamming, man. Like, listen, man, that's the way I was my therapy, man, it ain't gonna lie to you. You helped me a lot of days, man, on the road, whatever I was doing. It was like, man, when I put this UGK in, man, I'm gonna make it through. That's all I'm gonna tell you. Amen, amen to that. And I made it through, man, to be my age, to be my age, you know, and here still is a blessing because I've seen so many friends that passed away and I think about you often because of all the people that you around you from three to all the people that you've dealt with and you still here, man, that's a blessing, bro. You know what I'm saying? And then all the people you influenced, man, Twisted Black was just on the show and Twisted Black talked about you, said, don't call, you hit him up and said, don't take nothing to keep it real. Did you ever think about doing anything with Bumbi? Yeah, I got two songs with Bumbi, man, and again. Yeah, because when I Google you, first thing pops up is him with you on a picture, not together, but because when you came out, he commented under and said, you know. Man, Bumbi has been super supportive. Don't dude, man. Man, what did you talk about? I talked to him out there. They had told you. I love this dude. But more than anything, you got a lot of these industry guys that I met a lot of them that just don't, they're really not familiar with the streets at all. Right. And then you got guys like Bundy, his exact words, I was going to Starbucks, give me a coffee, we FaceTime, and he said, it don't cost nothing to keep it real, but like, he said, anything you do, I'm bagging you a plate. No, I mean, and I thought that was live because for you to even do that, you know, and then we did some other stuff, but it just, those links, man, mean so much to our people, bruh. So thank you. I know a lot of people looking at me. I know a lot of people take direction and inspiration for what I do. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to inspire people to be bad people to do dumb shit. You know what I'm saying? To put people in bad positions. If anything, just be a good dude. Just be solid. You ain't got to make a bunch of money. You ain't got to have the best cars or none of this. Just be a solid dude. That can get you very far in life. Wow. You know what I'm saying? And another thing, thank you for Steve Bilo. But definitely, man, I always been, I always looked up to those guys for what they brought to Texas, for the South. Them guys are patriarchs, you know? The way I found you is I heard this right here. Like, Swishes and Doge, and that was like, that was Pimp and Pimp had a protege his name is Steve Bilo in Dallas. He don't really make music no more. Yeah. Because that was you on Beehive. And when you said what you said, that drove me to go get him, which in the end sent me to Bobo, got him on there. Bobo had told me about, you know, he hadn't really been speaking out cause he had been going through some stuff, depression and all that. And I gave him some harsh words cause I'm crazy. I'm gonna say something, a little throw like, what you think he'll think about it? Tell him about Pimp, you know, for you, where you at right now, whatever. We was just talking. But Steve Bilo, the same thing, man, just thank you for even mentioning his name. Cause when you mention his name, I call different people, he's everybody like, hey man, I need Steve Bilo on Buster. Look man, Steve Bilo is arguably one of the most talented people I've ever worked with and known, right? But this is a very rough game. And this game didn't go, do right by him. A lot of, in a lot of ways, the game just didn't do right by him. And so he, he didn't leave on good terms with the industry, you know what I'm saying? He loved the culture, loved contributing to the culture, but the industry side was rough for him. And it just, it just was too much. And he had other options, you know what I'm saying? So he went and exercised those other options. And Steve is doing good for him. Doing real good. You know what I'm saying? But I do know, and he still makes music too. Yeah, he does. He still makes music, but when it comes to like, actually wanting to record something, put something out and having to deal with all of that stuff, man, he just would rather not do it. And I don't blame him, man. You know what I'm saying? This is a dirty game. I've been done, you know, real, I'm still dealing with the repercussions of bad, you know, contracts and deals and stuff like that. So I can totally understand. If you had another way to get some decent bread, why would you put yourself through that? That's real, man. You know, Jive, you know, when I think about Jive and y'all label mates like too short, I know y'all did some early on words. I think it's, it's all right. That song all right. Yeah, yeah. Man. Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one, one-on-one. Yeah, we gon' talk.