 In this exciting episode of Mind Pump, remember Mind Pump is the world's top fitness and health education and entertainment podcast. And this is a Q&A episode. This is where we answer fitness questions asked by our listeners. But the way we open the episode typically is with a 35 to 45 minute intro where we talk about current events. We catch up with each other. We mention our sponsors. So here's what went down in today's episode of Mind Pump. We started by talking about despicable movie rentals from back in the day. Girls Gone Wild and Bum Fights and how that guy made millions of dollars and the creeps that bought those videos. Bunch of gross dudes out there. Then I talked about how Bay Area Alcohol consumption has increased by 42%. Makes a lot of sense. You guys are stuck at home. You're sad and you want to drink away your worries. So we advise for people who are drinking to take something called Z-biotics. Now Z-biotics is a genetically modified bacteria that you drink. So it's a little drink. You take it right before you drink alcohol. And what the bacteria does is it eats the byproduct of alcohol metabolism that tends to cause a lot of the negative side effects like the feeling you get when you have a headache or bad gut or whatever. We've tested this product ourselves. We've actually pushed the limits. It really does work. You drink it before you drink and then the next day you feel remarkably much better than you would had you not taken this product. Anyway, because you're a Mind Pump listener, of course, you get a discount with this product. Just go to Zbiotics. That's Z-B-I-O-T-I-C-S.com forward slash Mind Pump. You'll get 10% off all their products including the three packs, six packs, and 12 packs. Then I talked about my lockdown health hacks. These are things that I'm doing to boost my immune system, make myself feel better. I'm the most paranoid of the group. So all the woo-woo things. Yeah, but I'm also more consistent with my red light therapy. So photobiomodulation improves your cells ability to use something called ATP. Now what does that mean? It sounds fancy, but here's what it means. It means your skin looks better, muscles recover faster. You get a boost in your immune system. By the way, this sounds crazy, but it's all back by studies. Photobiomodulation has been studied since the 70s. Now our favorite company that produces what we think to be the best red light therapy you can buy for your home is Juve. Juve makes the best products and you can buy small handheld products or larger products that will shine this specific type of red light on your entire body. Now of course they're one of our sponsors, so we have a hookup for you. If you go to juve.com that's j o o v v dot com forward slash Mind Pump, you'll get a free maps prime program with purchase of $500 or more plus free shipping. By the way, you can finance a lot of their products. So you can get 12 months, zero percent APR financing for the Juve go mini and solo. And then the bigger products that they have, you get 18 months of zero percent APR for the duo max quad and elite. Then Justin brought up an interesting fact about beaver butts. You won't want to miss that part. We talk about in and out shutting their doors right now. That's kind of sad. I talked about Amazon employees going on strike. We talked about government stimulus money and what that may mean. We speculate on what everybody's hair is going to look like when this is all over probably a lot less blond. A lot like a tiger king. Yeah, it's gonna be funny. We talked about a spouse questionnaire we did with our girlfriends and wives and how Adam lied on his. I talked about Justin's first excuse me, Jessica that Justin's Jessica's first trimester. Wow. Sorry. I didn't know I was pregnant. Sorry, bro. Jessica's first trimester and how she's a little nauseous, having a tough time. We talk about how Italy may be flattening the curve. Yes. And we give an update on home schooling. So that's the first 42 minutes of the episode. Then we get into answering the fitness questions. Here's the first one. This person says, look, you guys have talked about how the more muscle you have, the faster metabolism can be like, how does this work? How does this all work out? How does your metabolism get faster when you have more muscle? The next question, this person says, how can you tell the difference between a good at home workout program and a bad one? There's a few things you can look out for that'll tell you if your at home workout program is just terrible. And of course, we talk about our maps anywhere program, which we know to be one of the most effective at home workout programs you could do. By the way, that one's still on sale. Use the code white 50. Then we get into the next question. What are some of your favorite healthy food swaps? So we talk about how you can make swaps for healthier lower calorie options that still taste good. Since you're stuck at home, you want your taste. Here's a secret ad bacon. There you go. And then the final question, this person wants to know if we have any book recommendations during the stay at home order. So we give our recommendations on our favorite books. It's a new month. We're in April. That means we have a new promotion going on. Check this out. You guys are going to love this one. These two programs haven't been on sale since early last year. Okay. Maps prime and maps prime pro both programs 50% off. These are correctional exercise based programs. Here's the best part. You need zero equipment to work on your mobility. You need zero equipment to work on these correctional exercises in both programs. You can identify movement pattern issues and you can fix them through the prescriptions in each program for your specific issues. Both programs are highly tailored. In other words, you can go through the program, test your body out and figure out what works best for you. Now maps prime is more specific to teaching you how to do your own specific priming warmup before your workouts. Maps prime pro is much more in the correctional direction where if you have like a bad shoulder or you need more more hip mobility, you can get more specific. So both programs 50% off all month long. Here's how you get that discount. Go to maps fitness products.com. That's M A P S F I T N E S S P R O D U C T S.com and use the code prime 50 for both programs for the discount. That's P R I M E five zero. No space for the discount. Doug, give us a thumbs up when, uh, when we're sexy and hot. Give us a difference hand signals. Give us, um, yeah, there you go. There you go. Jazz hand. Remember it. Speaking of jazz, did you guys know that they did an analysis of Cardi B's music and they found that it was a combination of jazz and funk so they call it junk junk. I like it. I like it. Good dad joke. Did you see the, uh, bar stools of that? It was like a little infant kid, like watching a Cardi B video. Oh, it was fantastic. It was just like, like his eyes are this big and just like watching all the booties. Bro, bar stools, bar stools traffic has to be like through the roof right now. They're just pumping it out. Of course. They get all the best stuff. You want to escape. Did you see they, uh, they had a documentary on him that just got released? Oh, on the dude that started it. A lot of people talk shit. A lot of people talk shit. A lot of people talk shit. I feel like he's a, he's a hated guy. They're like, they're like, uh, yeah, pass. It's a quarantine's bad, but it's not that bad where I'm going to watch somebody who made a business off of just reposting other people's shit. Do you know who? Boring. Do you guys remember that? What's the guy's name? He made millions of dollars, but he was so hated that it ruined him. Uh, he was girls gone wild. Yeah, that dude. Was it? Yeah. I knew it. He made girls gone wild videos. My friend ordered it for the younger, for the younger listeners. These were videos you could order. And it was like, you know, it was like Mardi Gras parties or spring break. And then they'd come out with cameras and they'd be like, flashes, your boobs. And the girls would do it. And then they sold these videos. Yeah. They bring them back into like a, uh, one of those RVs, you know, Hey, I got an idea. They would sign like release, you know, waivers, even though they were like smashed or whatever. My old partners and I hired that crew. Well, okay. Here we go. I'm in for a story. Wow. Wait a minute. You hired. Yes. Girls gone wild guys. It was actually right after like his sort of guys. What were you trying to do? My old partner guys gone wild. No. You don't need to direct guys for that. Let it out. I think it's just, it just, it happens to be random that that's what they did. They had a connection with my old partner in somebody say balls in the marijuana business and nobody buys that. And he knew them, he knew them personally. And of course he had like a big lawsuit and stuff that happened after all that, right? He made his millions and then he had a big loss. Yeah. Cause it was like some, some, I think that had to do with some girl saying she was too drunk to sign it. She was underage. Yeah. He had a bunch of shit that he went through. I mean, he still was filthy rich, but then obviously he didn't have a lot of work after that. And my partners at the time knew, knew him. They were friends and they, we hired their whole crew to come shoot a marijuana video for us. What's a marijuana video? Like a music video? No, another music video, like a, it was, so this was, he, this is what he did. This was his brilliant idea that this was a, I don't know, I think we sunk like a hundred thousand dollars into this thing and it never went anywhere. And the idea was we were, remember we were, there was only two medical marijuana facilities in the Bay Area before us, right? So we're one of the original, right? And, you know, back then it was like very, very gray and edgy and scary to be a part of it. And my partners were like really trying to push the envelope like and do different, like we were the first ones to do trailblazers. Yeah, right. Literally, right? Indivators. Just blazers. Yeah, hold the trail. Just blazers. We, you know, we were like the first to open up like a vape lounge and he was trying to, so he spent all this money on making this like hype video, so he went and pitched it to all these networks in LA trying to get them to pick up a documentary. So there's a, there's like a super highly produced video. I'm in it, it's of course, right? I'm working the place. But, and it was, it was kind of a cool video, but it was a hype weed. Yeah. Well, hype up underground business. Yeah. It was, the idea was to sell a network which shows, there's a ton of them now. This was before any of it. So none of this existed. Like a reality documentary of starting a cannabis club. That makes sense, of course. And so they shot all this, sold the device. Right. That was the, the idea. He was, I think he was just ahead of his time with it. He probably was. And they, at the time that we were trying to do it, so many people involved, he really was blackballed in the industry because of it, because the people that were in it at that time were really trying to push it to legitimize it. Oh, and did he like emphasize on the making money? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, rolling up in his X 63 and, you know, just balling out, partying, VIP limo stuff, like, you know, my being his butt with dollars. This is toilet paper. Yeah. Not quite that bad. But I mean, enough that I think a lot of these networks were like, yeah, that's going to be a pass. It's going to be a pass for me, dog. Yeah. Years later, though, we saw a bunch come out, but that's why you bring up that name. And I'm like, oh my God. So we're, you know, when people get that Randy Jackson reference, you're welcome. When people make, get mad at like people who make millions of dollars off of slimy shit. I feel first off, yeah, I get it. You know, the dude that made the girl gone wide. They're serving me. They're obviously serving. Well, what I mean is kind of that is like, is he any worse than any other porn, you know, distributed out there? He's a P. Okay. Yes. He's kind of, he's a sleazy piece of garbage, right? You wouldn't introduce him to any of your family members or sister or whatever your wife or any of that. He's a predator. But nobody puts any responsibility to other people that bought that shit. Yeah. Or the girls that, you know, are taking all the clothes off. Yeah. If you buy those videos, you're an asshole too, just as much as he is for making it. Like remember, this was a terrible, I remember this one. This one actually made the same, another dude, maybe it's the same guy. I don't know. A lot of money. And it's worse, in my opinion, than the girls gone wild videos. Do you guys remember bum fights? Yes. Oh man. That was huge. It was huge for like a year. It was terrible. There was a camera crew and a producer that would go around to homeless people and he would give them, and I only laugh because the idea is so insane and terrible that you can't even believe it existed. It's like so, like immoral. He would go up to- With though, you had to admit a little bit of brilliance. Well, yeah. Someone's got to say it. Someone's got to say it. Come on. I mean, it's terrible. It is terrible, but it's brilliant at the same time. I mean, you think- Obviously, he knew people would buy it. Oh my God. Well, and you knew that a lot of the bums would do it, for sure, to get a hundred bucks. You know what I'm saying? Like- To get food. I would. If I was bumming it out, I would. Bro, it was more like five bucks. No, it wasn't. Some of them weren't. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. It was good money. Good money. It wasn't like Mayweather money. He would say stuff like pull your teeth out. If you pull your two front teeth out, I'll give you 50 bucks. Yeah, it went crazy far, but it originally was, they would approach and both would consent, agree to it. There would be- He's taking advantage of these mentally ill. Sometimes there's a lot of people. I know that mentally ill is a majority of people that are homeless. It just feels bad. It's totally taken advantage of. Doesn't it feel bad? Like watching like, oh man, this makes me feel bad. There's a lot of businesses like that. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it, but you can't slimy ass stuff. But some dude made millions of dollars off of doing that. And then I don't know what happened to him after that, but he made a lot of money doing that. Here's an example. There's always these opportunities, right? And I think that- It's just a reflection of society. Right. Well, and we just, I mean, before we got on the mics, we were talking about the integrity that we have as owners and a business and stuff. And I even think about, I knew that I should have bought all kinds of stock and alcohol before all this happened. Anytime something like a pandemic like this happens or a world scare, like alcohol and cigarettes go through the roof. Well, let's take it. Let's go back a little bit. I remember before 2008, before the big financial crash, I had friends that were getting into the loan business, and they would tell me like how crazy it was. He's like, yeah, dude, you don't need to check anything. Just have them tell you how much they make. Yeah. Getting people's loans. Oh, and just pump. I knew guys that, I knew, I knew guys that worked under me for short periods of time or worked at 24 Fitness, who they were sleazeballs. Let's, let's be honest. I, you know, one dude I know who worked for me for a short period of time. And then, you know, we kind of got rid of him because he was, you know, he was a good sales person, but he was just a slimy, just a sleazeball. You know, you wouldn't trust the guy. Anyway, he gets in the home loan business. This guy's making three quarters of a million dollars, just slinging loans. And it was just, and I remember they would call maybe, Sal, you make so much money, dude. Come on. It doesn't feel, it doesn't feel right. You know what I mean? It doesn't feel right. Too many red flags. There's a lot of opportunities like that that tend to pop up. Yeah. No. I mean, again, I knew, I knew to buy those, would have been to buy this stuff. And I just couldn't get myself to do it knowing that, you know, profiting off of other people going out there and drinking themselves to death right now, which you saw that, right? I think it was you who shared. Oh dude, alcohol consumption in the Bay Area, since the shelter and place kicked in, went up 40, I think 42%. That's huge. No, it makes sense. Of course it does. Makes sense, dude. You're stressed, you're anxious, you're at home, and you're like, I just want to like chill for a bit. And alcohol is a very short-term solution for that. But I get it. I get it, dude. I find myself wanting, I don't just get bored. Drinking is like something to do for some people. What I don't have a problem with though, is pitching those people on Zbiotic. Well, hey, that's right. I'm saying like, hey, if you're going to go drink, you do all this, you may as well feel better. Hey, if you, if you're going to do this, we recommend you don't. But if you're going to, you know, no judgment here, take this, you know, product that'll help you not feel like dog shit. Like the condom for a hangover. Oh, great. You know what? You know, these get sent over to our partners. I'm going to have a phone call in fucking two weeks, like Zbiotic's like, um, yeah, we'd really appreciate if you don't reference our brand as the condom of freaking drinking, tying those two together. Yeah. That's not the way we want to be represented. We don't recommend sex with strangers. However, it is partying. No, you know what though? I wonder actually, if their sales are blowing up, I would imagine because it's alcohol or Zbiotic. Zbiotics. No, they are. I'm seeing, I'm seeing all kinds. I mean, we, I talked to the partners on a regular basis and because it's an at home, it delivers to your house. You're gonna have to drive somewhere and get it and you're drinking more. And for sure you feel like, because here's what happens with alcohol, you drink because you feel bad. So you temporarily feel better. And then the next day you feel worse than you did that day because of the toxic effects of alcohol. And so product like Zbiotics, well, my helps, you know, so I would imagine that they're, by the way, one of my predictions with, with the product like Zbiotics was, I wonder if it's going to, for some people encourage more because they're like, oh, I feel okay. Now I can push more, more alcohol. That's what everybody, that's, that's human nature for us to do. My buddy, you know, when, who we had on the show recently, he's got already a bunch of his athletes that are, all the athletes are home. That's what they're doing. Working out drinking. That's what they're all doing. Dude, when he tested it, what did he say to you? Unbelievable. You saw his post. Didn't you see his post just the other day? No. Are you not, I may not be following him. I don't know. Yeah, he did. He posted all about it. Yeah. Yeah. So he's already, he already bought a bunch of cases himself. He's turned some of his athletes on it. And he doesn't have like a couple of drinks. No, no, no. Yeah. He's a drinker. He went hard. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, he, I mean, that's like 90% of his job is networking with these athletes and taking them to Vegas and party and like, so that's why it was like, it was so serendipitous. The timing that he came in was right when we were like really kicking off Zbiotic. And so to be able to introduce him to that was awesome because I know he's for sure of all of my friends. I'm like, somebody who's going to be able to take this and like really know because he drinks on it. It's part of his business. He's constantly out there entertaining everybody. He loves it. Now, here's one that I don't know if I wonder if the sales are up or down or flat or the same is cannabis. I know the home delivery stuff. It's up like crazy. Is it? Yeah. You know, I can't even get good weed right now. So we, I had Doug out of stock. I had Doug order for me before we went up to Tahoe and I tried ordering through Doug's contact. Why'd you have Doug order it? Well, no good edibles left. He was still here. He was still here in San Jose. I was up in Tahoe. I didn't have anything. I didn't bring my stash or anything. So I hadn't had, I hadn't had anything to smoke for. Remember, we were podcasting. I brought that up. I hadn't smoked. Justin sold me out. Said I had an edible. Yeah. And so I called Doug. I said, Hey, before you come up, I said, could you order off of ease and get me some, some weed? And he's like, well, what do you want? And I'm like, I just took a picture real quick, screen shot it and circled, you know, just give me what's available. And he's like, well, this is all they have. I said, okay. What was a swag? No, it wasn't, it wasn't so much. It was bad, even though I do want to comment on how shitty club weed is these days. The, it was a pure CBD strain. Oh, they didn't have like a regular tea. Yeah, sold out. Oh, that's probably better for you anyway. Yeah. And I finally got some the other day. And it's still like club stuff is terrible. So my consumption of cannabis way down because it makes me my tendency towards paranoia. I could imagine you do. We're already over the top here. You don't want to add fuel to that fire. I told you guys what I did. I did it. I did it. It was like a week or two ago when I was, you know, quarant self-quarantine myself and I was feeling okay. You know, I wasn't really sick anymore, but I was still just being precocious. So I wasn't going around anyone. I had a vape pan, an old one. And I'm like, Oh, you know what? You know, I'm feeling a little stressed. Maybe this will help. It was the opposite dude. I hit that immediately as soon as it kicked in. I'm like paranoid. And of course, this is a paranoid, you know, situation. I'm reading articles. I'm sitting there. I'm thinking about, Oh my God, my parents. What if they die? What about my kids? And I'm sitting there watching. Can we share with the audience what a paranoid emotional roller coaster you've been for us for the like last month? Holy Moses. This is my weakness. Hey, if one day he comes in, it's a conspiracy. The next day comes in, it's bullshit. Oh my God, we're all going to die. It's like, don't see anybody. You've got a cure for all these things. Look guys. Then the next day, Oh my God, there's the apocalypse. It's because I'm always in my head. I can't keep up with you. In fact, to Sal and, I mean, Doug and Justin and I, we created our own thread that doesn't even include Sal anymore. We're just like, listen. Mind pump without Sal. It's because I'm in my head. I'm already in my head. I think a lot. And then on top of it, you know, I don't like, like I, you know, I'm about a little bit of a hypochondriac anyway. So it's like the worst situation. But I'll sit in there paranoid as shit watching TV with Jessica. Jessica looks at me. She's like, what's wrong? Yeah. I'm like, I'm really paranoid right now. She's like, oh fuck. I knew that was a bad idea. So I know you being the paranoid guy. I know you have to be doing a lot of different woo-woo shit. So give me the, give me the, give me the list of things that you're doing right now that's woo-woo. You know, so here's- To try and, you know, be a- You're still grounding. No, no, no. So here's the thing. Okay. I might be, I might get myself to the point where I'm anxious and paranoid, but I'm not doing stupid shit that I'm, what I try to do is stick to the data. Because if I allow my emotions to run free, then you're right. It's going to get weird. So, you know, I'll be doing coffee animas and weird shit before you know it. So I'm just sticking to- Chill it. All I'm doing, I'm sticking to the stuff that I know is legit. So, you know, I'm exercising. I'm doing my meditation prayer that's really good for stress. I'm going for daily walks. I'm making sure I get really good sleep, trying to eat healthy, although that's much more difficult. Now actually bought this, I haven't bought a full bag of potato chips in a long time. And I bought two the other day. I had two big ass bags of- These are sneaking their way back in. Oh, it's stupid. Stupid. I ate a whole bag the other day, went up to my dome by myself. Not doing any woo-woo stuff. No, well, no. So, so here's what I'm doing. Here's my routine, right? I don't believe you. No, no, no. Here's my routine. So, I'm doing working out, you know, daily activity, daily walks, getting sunshine, getting good sleep. I'm supplementing with vitamin D with zinc. And then I've been more consistent than I've ever been with the red light therapy, the June. Yes. Why that? Because that actually does boost the immune system. So, that's got actual studies that support how it boosts your body's ability to fight infections. Is that just because of how fast it's replenishing the cells? Like, what is it doing to help boost the immune system? It improves your cells' ability to utilize the primary source of energy in your whole body, which is ATP. So, when your mitochondria use ATP faster and better, then all of your body's functions improve. So, this is the main reason why they think it helps regrow hair, why it's good for skin, like wrinkles and collagen, why it's good for inflammation. Physical therapists have been using red light therapy forever. It's basically, if your body is utilizing energy more efficiently and effectively, it's going to improve all of its functions and immune system. There are studies that show that it helps with that as well. No shit. You know, it's crazy you bring that up because I've been terrible at that again. You know, one, we were up at Tahoe, so I didn't have the light with me. And dude, if my psoriasis ain't the worst it's been in a long time. And it's, again, whenever I get dry air up there, it didn't help, I'm sure. I think that exaggerated. I think that's why it's so bad right now. But the combination of I fell off my consistency with using the light, and then in addition to that, being up in that dry air up there just makes it... And then also diet too, because if my diet's off a little bit, so the combination of that, I'm going through the worst psoriasis spell that I've ever been through. So, you telling me that now is going to make me kick back on my routine. Well, talking a little bit about some of the food that's sneaking its way back in, like the chips and like ice cream, things like that. So, I get this message and I've been dropping like some pretty random facts lately on the podcast. And somebody sent me this one that was like another animal fact that I was just like, oh my God, I did not know this and I'm completely disgusted by it, right? So, you know the flavors, vanilla, raspberry, I forget what the other one is, but I think strawberry. But for ice cream or for sodas, things like that, do you know like what is part of that process? Like what animal? Isn't there an extract from the anus of the beaver? Yes, what? You knew this? Yeah, I did. Of course you knew this. I did. Yeah, it's anal, like, you know how like, even dogs have like an anal gland like this for like marking and stuff. So beavers have this, but apparently it smells really good. Like so, yeah, yeah. So there was one like scientist, like she was like talking to this reporter about it and like putting the beavers ass, like right at her face and like, like people think I'm crazy for this, but it smells so good. What's it called, Doug? What is that called? It's a, oh, castorium, yeah. It's got a musky vanilla scent. So here's the deal. Now is that what I'm going to see on labels? No, they're not going to put, yeah, they'll put castorium. They're not going to see it, that's what I mean. Or has beaver goo in it. No, of course I'm going to say goo. Oh yeah, beaver butt. Beaver butt goo. Or what they'll say is natural flavors or natural. That is very natural. Yes, so it doesn't get more natural in that. So when they put natural, when they say in a product, you know, because we're one of wood chemicals, right? So everybody's like, I want something natural. I don't want chemicals. So instead of having like chemical vanilla smell, they'll say natural, you know, fragrances. You know that it's beaver butt. So is this a shaved beaver butt? Now is this the most popular or widely used natural source of vanilla flavor? It's very common. It's very common. What? I didn't know that. Yeah, they're, is there like a farm somewhere where they're like just squeezing these little guys? Look at this. You know, like I'm just like, this is crazy. Here's what it says. Beavers, gland, secretions. Oh, raspberries the other flavor. Can be found in alcoholic beverages, baked goods, frozen dairy products, chewing gum, sweets, meat products, pudding, gelatin, ice cream, vanilla flavoring, and raspberry flavored food. We're all eating beaver ass. We didn't even know it. I had no idea. This is good to know if you're in nature, you know what I mean? And you're eating, you're like eating raw meat. Oh gosh, I wish I could flavor it up. Yeah, we catch a beaver. Rub it all over my steak. Yeah, that sounds really, before you try it. To catch a beaver, rub it all over my steak. Before you grill the beaver, to eat the beaver, make sure you get the. It's a t-shirt waiting to be made. Beaver butt smell. Wait a minute. Beaver butt just sounds like it going anyway. Speaking of food, you guys see that in and out closed down. Do you guys know why? You have any idea why? Probably just to maintain safety for their employees. Well, I don't know. They were most fast food chains still are doing drive through and allowing that. And I just, someone shared an article with me. I haven't had a chance to actually go through it. I thought maybe one of you guys might have known why they shut down. Doug, maybe you could pull up why. But I thought that was interesting. What do I Travis do? Yeah, because it is. No, I know. It's like one of my favorite fast food. Yeah, there's a lot of restaurants out there. I mean, this is the only way they're sort of like surviving right now is the takeout. They must have a lot of cash in order to do this, but you know, because in and out is private, right? They're a private company. They're not a shareholder public company. I think you're right. Yeah, no, I think you're right. Actually, I know it because they have like Bible verses at the bottom of their, they're like a Christian owned company. All right. Like, yeah, like Chick-fil-A. Yeah, you would never see that in a public company. And they must be worried about, I mean, I'm speculating. I don't know what's going on, but I wonder if they're just, you know, trying to protect their employees if they want to, you know, give them who knows. Or are they laying them off? Are they going to cut all their pay? Well, that's what I'm wondering what's going to happen with all that. Well, did you guys see the, wasn't that right? The strike at the Amazon, at some of these Amazon delivery. What? Aren't they hiring a bunch of people? Why would they strike? So it's not company wide, but there was one or two of these, these like delivery locations. What do they call them? Where they have the products and then they ship the house? Yeah, something like that, right? They went on strike because they're saying that they're not being kept safe because the policy is if you don't have any symptoms, or no, if you have symptoms, if you're sick, you can still come to work unless you're tested positive for COVID. And so the employees are like, that's not cool or whatever. And so a lot of them went on strike because they said, that's not, we want to make sure if people have symptoms that they can stay home and get paid rather than just having to have a positive. Now, what's your thought, Sal, on, you know, I know you love reading economics and you know, I have to wonder, you know, we just infused $2 trillion. We're now starting to do all these, the business bailouts where you can apply for a loan that will be forgiven. We got a letter from our lawyer on this. What do you think is going to happen? Like I just, I feel like free money is just too good to be true. Yep. Yep. I think there's going to be a lot of businesses that take advantage because what they did with this $2 trillion stimulus or whatever is that they pushed it through as fast as possible, right? So there aren't lots of descriptions on the, there's not lots of stipulations so far. It's kind of a gray area or general with how they're saying, you know, if you use this money to pay your employees, then we'll forgive it. Well, what if a company has lots of profits and then they get this money and then they pay their employees with it? Do they still get forgiven? What I think is going to happen is I think you're going to have a lot of people take advantage of this because it's not, there aren't clear lines in it. And then later on, I feel like the politicians are going to come back when we start to suffer the ramifications. And then they're going to start to say, we're going to audit you now and we're going to go after these companies. Be careful though, early. Don't pick up the soap, huh? I felt like it was so good. So accurate. That's how I agree with you. Like we don't, I don't know if it's going to be so much like... They'll be coming back to collect some of this money. There's no way because we're going to suffer massive repercussions. And when we do, they're going to blame the companies. They're going to say all these companies took this free money. And look, I told you guys what last week... I'm still appalled. Yeah, by what you brought up last time about the airlines and like how these new airline companies are popping up just to get part of the bailout. As of like a week or two ago, there were... As soon as the news came out that these stimulus was coming out, 25 airline companies got started and 50 cruise line companies got started. Such horseshit. Well, I mean, here you are. I understand the hustle, but yeah, it's definitely a hustle. That's part of the game. Well, the shitty part that I think about all this is that if you're correct, it's going to be really unfortunate if it's like the small business owner that gets fucked over on this and it's the millionaire who's got all the loopholes, the lawyer, the ability to fight it and to win. Usually that's who wins. Well, I feel like the big companies that take advantage of this, they are in cahoots with their lobbyists and the politicians. You're probably right. They're not going to get screwed. And also, if you're a company that employs 50,000 employees, publicly speaking, it's going to be hard for politicians to come after you because then you're like, I got to lay off all these people. But the smaller companies, especially the newer ones, I think that's where they're going to go after. Nobody's going to hear about them. And I think those are the ones that are going to take advantage but not have the connections. They're the ones that are going to read and be like, oh, cool, free money. You know what I think is going to be really funny? That I just started realizing this yesterday. Because my kids are now, I've been myself quarantined over whatever. My kids, I can see my kids. And I was looking at my son and his hair, he's a 14-year-old boy. So his hair grows like Medusa. Like it's crazy. Him and I will get a haircut the same day. Get the hedge trimmers out. His hair just grows hella fast. So he's already starting to get a mop head. But you can't get a haircut anywhere. I can't wait to see. Oh, I have a story for this. Yeah, so we've- Everybody's hair. We've been trying to figure this out, too. Because my kids have their hairs getting crazy right now. And Courtney, her best friend is like a stylist and works as a law and everything. So she's not working right now. So she pitched it to her. Like, hey, can you zoom or Skype or whatever? Virtually help me? Virtually help me as I'm cutting there. And I'm like, oh my god, are you seriously doing this? And she's going to do it. Oh, wow. I'll have to report back and see how this goes. Dude, that's actually really interesting. It's a good idea. I was like, I was actually proud of her for coming out. But it's like, whatever. I already saw some trainers pivot that I thought were really smart. They have been- So, okay, a lot of companies, like some of my client friends and stuff that have like, they're still working remotely. Most of their job was remote anyways. Now they're just doing everything through Zoom. They have their meetings. They've got 100-plus employees or whatever. And then a lot of times these meetings have got 25, 50 people. Well, they are actually taking those at-home employees. Some of these companies are doing this, which I think is awesome, that companies that are still thriving or doing OK during this time are paying for the services of some of these trainers. So those of you who are trainers are listening right now. Here's a great pitch or people to go after are these companies that are still operating fine, still have all their employees, but now all working from home is Skyping a group workout for the entire staff. Oh, yeah. So you've got 20, 30 employees that are on Zoom that are following the trainer, doing the exercises and working out. And because you're going after a company and it's only an hour of your time, you could probably charge a higher rate for your hour of time that you're servicing 20 or 30 people at one time for a company. So going after companies and charging, because think about this. Virtual corporate wellness. Yeah, I think if you have a company, just say you have 30 or 40 employees and a trainer charges you $200 an hour, but for $200, I get to have all my employees active and working out in the morning before they start work. I like that. What a great service. I like that. It also brings unity among the staff. Everybody has to get together on there. Yeah, I like that. That's a good idea. I'm telling you, it's going to be hilarious when this whole thing is over in a month or two or however long. We're going to be walking around and you're going to see a lot of real hair color. You're going to be one. You're going to see a lot of women with gray hair. You know, did you see that meme going around about coming out in three months? 80% of the blondes will be gone? Yeah, probably, dude. I'm telling you. It's going to be... I mean, where am I going to get back? You know what might be selling a shit ton right now? Actually, I just thought about this. Remember the flow bee? Flow bee? You guys remember the flow bee? Oh, what is that? Was that the one with the... It was like a vacuum that cut hair? Yeah, dude. This was a TV product back in the... I want to say the early 90s and it was like a hair trimmer that you attached to your vacuum. Yeah. So basically, all you could do is cut your hair like one length, you know? But you... So military bases use that back in the days? Do they really? Yeah, when I was a kid, I don't know why, where I was at and how why I'd be at a military base. It's the flow bee. Yes, yes. I've actually had my hair cut by one of those. Wait, you cut your hair with a flow bee? I didn't. I had... I was... I got my hair cut... Didn't turn out well. Is it with the back of the suck out your hair? I got my hair cut at a military base and I can't even remember if I was with an uncle or who I was with and they had all the barbers had one of these attached to the clippers and it just, you know, wild... Bro, I'm about to buy one. You have to watch the infomercial for this, if you're listening. Oh, it's the best thing... Amazing. It's the best thing you've ever seen in life. I'm about to buy one so I can cut my son's hair. So like, get over here. I'm going to flow bee your hair. So it's funny that you bring up the flow bee because if I show this to Katrina, she's going to die. You know we did that questionnaire thing with the... you did? Oh, the spouse's questionnaire. Oh, you cheated. And the pet... I did not. Yeah, you did, bro. I would not... That is so lame. You was hovering. So bad. Hovering. Let me tell the audience. Hey, don't be mad because my girl loves me, bro. No. You know what I'm saying? Shut up. She supports you. You know all that, dude? Fuck you. She just knows you. Yeah, he's like... He's like, these are way too good. She just knows what you want to hear. We've been together for 10 years, bro. Here's the question to be like, what do I do the most that annoys you? And then your spouse is supposed to answer the question. So Adams would be like... I clean the house a lot. It was not, bro. If you're going to share it, share it right. Your flaws, you worked way too hard. That was one. You're too focused. You're too on top of things. What's my worst quality? You know, I'm so honest. They were not that bad. Oh, dude. They were not that bad. What do I hate most about you? You spend too much time oral-sexing me. Dude, she's my best quality. She couldn't come up with anything other than I can accessorize my hats to my outfits really well. What the fuck does that mean? That's good. Bro, how long have you been married again? Yeah, dude. 11 years. That's when the honesty comes out. Yeah, that's when the honesty starts to come out. Now, did you fill out one for Jessica? Did you do hers? I didn't do... Yes, I did. I did one for her and she did one for me. And she's like, you know, one of the ones was like, what's a phrase that I always say? And she's like, I told you so. And I'm like, yeah, that's true. I told you so. That is something I sell out. Yeah, that was one of you making fun of me. Katrina threw back my quotes. I say the same. There's a handful of quotes I use all the time. She said I say all intents and purposes all the time. I don't ever say that. Do you really? Yeah, do I say that? You do. Maybe once or twice. You say that. No, I wouldn't know if you'd say that. For all intents and purposes, do I say that? Like, shoot me. Yeah. It was supposed to be like a fun game that Sal put out and ended up causing more. Everyone's getting in fights with her. Like, really? You can't think of a single good quality about me? Oh, dude. I was hyping her up like crazy. I turned the table. How are you guys all getting along now? You're stuck at home with your girls as long? Because I'm finding, you know, I'm seeing all these memes about couples like getting at each other's, you know, on each other's nerves, parents having to homeschool their kids and how they want to feel. I would think Justin has the most stress. I would think you have, because you've got two kids at home, you're trying to homeschool and wipe his home. You're a new puppy. Yeah. I think that was the thing. I knew immediately if we had one more thing in the house, like it was going to get a little bit more on the chaotic side. It was going to tip into that side of the scale. But no, we've been doing okay. Again, I kind of mentioned another podcast about how we've been trying to attack this by like really kind of ironing out a good schedule for everybody. So it was consistent. But yeah, dude, I get home and it's like, yelling and madness and chaos. I'm like, okay, I'm right outside. It just takes a couple stern talk-ins to the kids and stuff. And then we get everybody like right on track. How are you and wifey though? Do you feel like you guys are fighting more often right now because you're confined like this? Are you normal? What is it like right now? Yeah, I think both. I think she's doing a lot of self-work right now, which is amazing. It's been great her going through this kind of journey and stuff and really trying to figure out where she fits, what her purpose, all this kind of stuff, like things I've been trying to talk about for a long time. But that's also bringing up other things, which then get kind of ping-pong back. And then we kind of discuss like, well, I don't know. Was that really me? Was that you? So it creates conversations that get a little heated, but then it honestly has been for the best. And so it's actually pretty chill right now. Yeah, it's when they start, when you hear this real quick, come home like, hey honey, and she's like, you know, I've been doing a lot of thinking tonight. This is not going to be good. How's this going to affect me? Yeah, right now, because Jessica's still in her first trimester, poor girl, man. She's going through it. Oh yeah, I forgot, you probably deal with a little bit of emotions and stuff going up and down right now too. Well, first off, her food aversions are terrible. If I say the wrong food, I could say steak. She hates steak right now, meat. Like any kind of meat makes her want to throw it. Which is crazy because she normally loves it. So if I just say the word steak, she has to leave the room. If there's, it smells powerful. The other day I had, you know, I we made homemade cookies or whatever, and I put a little peanut butter on one or whatever. And I guess I had the peanut butter smell on me. She couldn't sleep all night. She had to go into the room. I washed my hand. Doesn't matter. She could smell like supersonic senses. Dude, it's so bad. She's had this so terrible. She's been such a trooper though. And then she goes through these phases where right now what's happened is her energy up until two or three PM is good. Yeah. Soon as three PM hits, fucked. She feels like shit. She gets super nauseous and she's tired. So what she tries to do is like front load the day with like everything she needs to do. Yeah. And the rest of the day it's like she's. What's she eating the most of right now? She, you know, it's funny. She has such a small category of foods that she can eat. So one thing that we found is that dairy is a good source for her of protein. So she's eating more dairy because meat is, she's averse to tuna fish she can eat. So that's not a problem. So she can eat that rice cake. Things that are bland. Yeah. Seem to be a lot easier for vegetables. Big no no. She hates vegetable. They make her want to throw up. So we're trying to find ways to kind of squeak. Wow, interesting. Salads she can do. So that's how she's doing her vegetables. So it's weird how much you change when you're. It's almost like the opposite of what she's been eating. Dude. And I'm sitting over here like I feel the same obviously. You know what I mean? I'm watching her. I'm like, thanks honey. You're walking around on eggshells. Well it's tough because you can't just like leave the house for the day or some shit. I try to do, you know, help as much as possible. But some things. Get those breath mints dude. Some things you can't help. Like, you know, she feel like what am I going to do? I can't help you. So I'm just going to fucking sit there and hear you throw up in the bathroom. I can't really do anything. You know what I mean? It's terrible. It's really, really bad. Yeah, anyway. Dude, Italy's Curve. Have you guys heard the news about their. Rumor is it's slowing, right? It's flattening. Yeah. Oh, that's great. So it looks like they hit their peak and now it's flattening out. Thank God, you know. They were in such a bad, you know, place. But it looks like the quarantine is paying off and the cases are starting to flatten out. So hopefully we'll see the cases start to drop. And, you know, some of the people can go back to, you know, normal life or whatever. On that note too, we just, California just announced kids are staying out of school till next year, right? That's it. It's official. Public schools, yeah. It's official now, right? Yeah, done. Oh, it's only policy rate. Well, the private schools are going to follow. Yeah, because private schools were the first to close doors. They were. Of course they'll stay. Yeah, they're going to stay. And then our, what are they called? Shelter in Place got extended to May 3rd, I think. So May 3rd is our extension. Now, how does something like this happen for someone like you who pays for private school, Sal? And if your kids aren't going to school, are you still paying? I mean, how is it? I am. They're still getting schooling. Oh, okay. So it's still. Yeah. So actually they're very organized. I'm really impressed because I've talked to my other friends who have kids that go to other schools or public schools and they've had a little bit more difficulty. But like my son's school, he logs in, he's in his classroom live with the other students. Oh, shit, like that? He's on a schedule. That's what my kids have too. Oh, I didn't know they were doing that. Yeah, they were doing that. Like they started to do that Zoom classes, everybody. And when did they start that? Was it in Tahoe? No, it wasn't. It was right after we got home. Oh, okay. But yeah, it's, but the workload is overwhelming, dude. Like the, it's not only is it like the however many hours, like five, six hours of what they normally would have worked in school, but then they're still giving like the homework on top of that. I'm like, how dare you? I feel like they are home. I feel like this is the teachers like going, ha, ha, don't pay us. A hundred percent. They're just, oh yeah, then you're going to want to get this done by tomorrow. Well, think about it this way. Let's say that, if the teachers are still getting paid, which they are, and they still have to teach their classrooms, they're not in front of the kids teaching them all day. So all they're doing is at home thinking of shit for the kids to do. So they're like, you got to do this. That's exactly what it is. Yeah. So they're throwing together. And that's the thing is like, no other schools in the county are like anywhere close to the amount of work that they're like pushing on the kids while they're at home like this. It's like, I was like talking to Cory about this. You got to push back a little bit. Like this is like, this is too much, you know. Yeah. Well, my, the way that the grading change for my son's school is interesting. He says now, because tests, they're not really giving tests like they did before. Obviously, how they're going to give you a test when you're at home. Right. And cheat. Right. So they place a heavier or a larger percentage of the grade now is on on participation. Okay. So when he's in the class, if he comments or says something, that'll count. Oh, wow. But here's the problem. Before tests were so heavily weighted that if he had a B, he could get a really good score on a couple of tests and get it up to an A. But now the way that it's structured, he's like, I'm screwed. He goes, I can't move. I can't get my Bs up to A's, no matter how well I do, because there's the tests are not weighted heavily. So it's like everybody, the people at the bottom are going to be having easier time coming up and the people at top are probably going to sit a little bit lower now. Now we've been taught, we talked on this show years ago, and it's been a while since we've brought this up, but we've predicted for a long time that the education system is going to be one of the next big systems to be disrupted. Do you think this could be one of the catalyst that causes that? Honestly, I really do think, especially in the college realm, people are going to realize they can just do everything online. Why spend all this money and go to campus to actually accomplish these things when you can literally do it, the convenience of your house and keep working? Yeah, but there's also a lot of parents that are like, I can't wait to get my kids back to school. Yeah, you got to think there's always going to be that. There is going to be that. But what you just said, Justin, that's what I kind of think. I didn't realize that the teachers were already starting to host Zoom classrooms like that. Even people that have graduated, have long time ago, they were in school. I'm finding myself interested in classes from UCLA or things they're offering, where it's like, I could just sign up for this semester class and then do it all virtually and get an education on something I'm really interested in, only. It is interesting. It's going to be interesting to hear how our kids talk about this time when they're older. How are the kids going to remember? Because I can tell you right now, my kids are going to remember this is a fun time. I remember when I got to stay at home and we all hung out and then I did school work at home. I mean, if it stays as a short blip of a couple of months, it won't be much on their memory. But if this bleeds into next year and we feel the repercussions of it, then yeah, they'll for sure remember. I feel bad for the graduating. That's so my best friend who's the principal. Like, I didn't even cross my mind. And he's like. Yeah, they have no dance. He's like, dude, my heart breaks for all of my seniors. That are like, you just graduate? Like, no walk, no, no, no. I just think about that. You're going to go up to the printer to get your diploma? Yeah. I did it with a selfie. And I mean, I don't know about you guys, but I mean, shit, my senior year in high school was one of my favorite years. It was fun, man. It was a blast. It was, you know, you're on your last year there. If you had already, I had got most of my units already done, so I was taking half a load. Yeah, like three classes. Yeah, senior year was a blast, man. And all the things towards the end of the year that you get to do, like, man, that's a bummer. Yeah, I know. Yeah. All right. First question is from Kylie Shransey. You have mentioned that the more muscle you have, the faster your metabolism can be. Can you please explain this a little bit further? Yes, yes. I'm sorry. I'm cutting you off. No, go for it. And the reason why I want to start because this one, I've got into it with people online many times over the way I explain this because, and this is another one of those examples where I talk about how it annoys me when fitness professionals and academia do this, where we get into arguing over semantics on who's more right about the science. Because one of the best ways to explain this to the average clients that they understand and get the concept is to kind of break down, like, how many calories more this muscle burn per day versus fat. And where the debate comes from is there's all kinds of research and study to show how drastically different that is for person to person, which that's where it can get really muddy and confusing when trying to explain to the average person. But the way I would explain it to somebody is this. For every extra pound of muscle that you have on your body, so for every pound of muscle we build on your body, your body burns an additional 30 to 50 calories a day. Now, that's where the argument is. Oh, that's too high. Oh, that's not high enough. Like, oh, that's not good. Studies show that it's way less than that. Here's the deal. The idea is to get the point across so people understand, not get hung up on the exact percentage of the exact calorie amount. The idea is for you to understand as a client that if I can get you to add five pounds of muscle on your body, then I potentially have got your metabolism burning an additional two to 300 extra calories every single day without doing any extra activity. It's because muscle is an expensive tissue. It requires more calories to sustain, to stay on your body more than fat does. You add fat. It doesn't take a lot of calories to keep fat on your body. It does take more calories to keep muscle. So as we build more muscle, it's more expensive. It needs more calories to stay. That's how it speeds up the metabolism. And the number is what's debatable. To me, I used to just give that 40 to 60 calories extra per pound to put it into perspective for a client that, hey, listen, we can keep your scale the same. And I could actually add five pounds of muscle to your body and lose body fat. And you would stay the same on the scale. But because you've added five pounds of muscle, your body is now burning an additional x calories per day. Right. So it gets even more interesting than that because there's the obvious. You have more active tissue. That active tissue requires more calories just to maintain fat is, you know, fat is still an active tissue, but it's far less active than muscle. So it requires less calories to maintain. One of the most expensive tissues on the body is the brain utilizes quite a bit of calories for the amount of size it is in your organs as well. But muscle is a relatively expensive tissue. So that's the simple way of explaining it. And look, bottom line is more muscle means you'll burn more calories. That's the bottom line. But there's more to it. It also goes this far that there's a bit of metabolic flexibility within the amount of lean mass that you have on your body. So what I mean by that is you could have 150 pounds of lean mass on your body and your body could run off of 2000 calories or 2800 calories with the same amount of lean body mass. Now how does that happen? Well, there's the body can make itself without necessarily changing the amount of lean tissue and whatnot, it can change the efficiency of how you utilize calories. Now one of the ways to speed up the metabolism is to reduce that efficiency. And one of the best ways to do that is to send a signal to the body that says, I have ample calories coming in and I need to get stronger. So increasing your calories, by the way, just bumping your calories a little bit will actually speed up your metabolism a little bit. Regardless, I don't care who you are, you eat a little bit more, your body burns a little bit more. Now how much more it burns depends on the individual, depends on the other signals that you're sending your body. But ample calories sends a signal that says, we don't need to be as efficient. Then the other signal is, am I sending a signal to my body that says, I need to get stronger and build muscle? Even if I kept my lean body mass the same, if I start lifting weights and tell my body I need to get stronger and I need more muscle, just that signal alone reduces efficiency or the thriftiness that your body has with calories. And we've seen this with the people that we've trained. I've had clients I've worked with who have only gained a couple pounds of muscle, but the calories that they burn more doesn't make any sense. You gain two pounds of muscle, you're burning 800 more calories. I know two pounds of muscle just sitting there isn't burning 400 calories more per... Yes, the environment you create. That's it. That's it. It's not burning 400 more calories per pound. So there's other things that happen there that we don't quite understand but I've observed it time and time again. I know other coaches, coaches that work with competitive athletes, you know, physique competitors, bodybuilders and bikini competitors, like Lane Norton. He talks about this all the time. We don't exactly know what's going on but we've observed it and you make your metabolism faster by both building muscle and by sending the signals to your body that say we don't need to be thrifty. You do those two things and you do them consistently and you do it the right way and appropriately and you'll see a pretty steep ramp up of the calories. I've been blown away many times by it. And just behaviorally, like seeing if your body, if you're focused more on building muscle and going in that direction, just what kind of activity that promotes overall in comparison to your lean biomass and you're optimizing your fat storage. So just the behavior of acquiring more muscle is going to create more calorie burn. Well, yeah, it's the two major factors. Factor one, to have more muscle in your body requires more energy to keep it there. So it needs more calories than fat does. So that's factor one. And then factor two, if you're telling the body by lifting weights to build more muscle, it needs more calories to build the muscle. It doesn't build it out of thin air. So it needs calories there also. So it's not just having more muscle speeds of the metabolism. It's also the act of trying to build muscle is also requiring more calories. The combination of those two factors is what results in what I've observed in my time roughly somewhere between 30 to 50 calories per pound of lean body mass or pound of muscle that you add to your body, give or take, because there is a variance per person. But it's a really good number to give people a kind of an idea of like, wow, if I really make an effort to build muscle and I could just put on five or six pounds of muscle and focus that way, I potentially could speed my metabolism that much. That's a significant difference. It is. And look, a while ago, the first time we interviewed what I consider to be one of the smartest professional bodybuilders in the world, Ben Pikolsky, up until that point, up until we met him, I thought that one of the genetic deciding factors, one of the factors that determined whether or not somebody could become a pro bodybuilder besides the fact that they could build lots of muscle and they respond well to exercise and that their body responded well to drugs. One of the factors that I thought was, they probably had incredible digestion to be able to consume all the calories that their body needed to build so much muscle. I mean, some of these guys are coming in shredded 270 pounds. That's what I thought. So when I interviewed Ben and I told him this, he said it's the opposite. He said, pro bodybuilders are able to eat less and build tons of muscle. They actually can walk around with tons and tons of muscle in their body and not have this huge metabolism spike. So one of the reasons why they can carry so much muscle. Imagine if you were, you know, 250 pounds, you have to consume 10 or 12,000 calories every day. It's going to kill you and yet some of these guys are walking around 5,000 calories, 4,000 calories, able to maintain it. So there's a bit of a genetic component. You know, that's influenced there as well. But if you want to speed up your metabolism, build muscle and then send the signals that tell your body you don't need to be thrifty with calories. That's going to speed up your metabolism. How much it speeds up, that can be determined on your genetics and some of your past. But that's how you speed it up. That's the most effective way I've seen. Next question is from Illaganke. How can you spot a good at home workout plan versus a poorly planned one? Almost everything I've seen online has me doing burpees until my knees give out. That's a great, this is a good question. Okay, so here's a bad, here's some characteristics of a bad at home workout plan. It's not phased. It is 100% completely circuit based. So it's just a bunch of exercises thrown together. It includes lots of jumping and bounding, jumping, bounding, jumping side to side, jumping over a chair, those explosive movements like that. You'll see that in our programs. Yeah, it has its place, but you have to be advanced. Yeah, you have to be advanced and you have to do the work leading into that. And then also make sure you focus on the intent of what you're trying to get out of it. Yes, they don't incorporate rest periods properly. So it's just cardio, just cardio with your body. You're not really doing any resistance training. They don't have a stability or tension component. Isometrics applied properly require no equipment and are extremely effective and valuable when you combine them with body weight exercise. If you have an at home workout program that it doesn't incorporate any isometrics or stability movements with your body weight movements, then you know it was written by somebody that doesn't understand how to make an equipment free or minimal equipment program effective. Well, this is what inspired MAPS Anywhere. Like every program that we done years ago, we talked a lot of Mind Pump early on before we had all the programs, was us pointing out all different modalities and things that we saw in the space. And probably one of the most abused workouts is at home workouts. They're the worst program. Yeah, I mean, and to take a shot right at a big company, you're talking about a multi-billion dollar company, Beachbody, which is primarily at home workouts. And it's solely based off of intensity and look. It's all entertainment. Yeah, it's all entertainment. It's geared towards marketing to demographics of people that will identify with the person who's leading the class. And then it's just intensity based. And it's just a bunch of random exercises that are put together with no sort of rhyme or reason that are designed to kick your ass or make you sweat. And that's not effective programming. I don't give a shit if you're in home or in the gym. That's poor programming. And so us addressing that, talking about that, of course, our response to that is, okay, if we were going to write an at home program that is scaled up correctly, and then also has the flexibility for the level of fitness. Because that's so important. When you're talking about at home workout, you get a very wide range of people that are taking that. Everything from a brand new beginner to a 60 year old lady who's never worked out before to somebody who's advanced in traveling because they're on the go and they're a business woman or man and they just need to get a workout inside their hotel room. So we had to take that all into consideration. Like, how do we build a program that's scalable for all levels of fitness, but then is also programmed knowing that, hey, there could be somebody too who's coming into this as very beginning or at 60 years old. How do they have it effective? That was what... And there's a lot of variables that you just don't see people use with. And you mentioned isometrics. And I think that that was one that really caught my attention a long time ago just because it was so underutilized and it was so effective. And the strength gains are beyond just the angle that you're actually applying these. It actually cascades in a little bit further and you get stronger in even further range of motion. And so there's just lots of benefit to it. And also it's very safe. So you can ramp up and really get an intense workout and get that same kind of a feel with your central nervous system, but less damage. And so why would we not highlight that as well as rubber bands that also provide like that same type of stimulus, but now the damage by itself is lower substantially. If you look at all the categories of workout programs, the category that has the worst workout programming, the worst written exercises, the worst written workouts, or the at-home workouts. By far, I mean there's bad workout programming all the way around, but when I look at workout at gym workout programs or barbell and dumbbell-based programs, a larger percentage, a much larger percentage of those, I would say are written better. The at-home workout programs, I have never actually ever seen an at-home well-written popular at-home workout program. They're terrible. There's a couple reasons for that. One is the audience that they're targeting. They're targeting people who don't want to go to the gym, just want to work out at home. They know it's more average, regular, everyday Joe people who don't know the difference between a good and a bad workout. They just want to sweat at home and if they're sore, then they think it's a good workout. And how do you market to them? I'm going to make it flashy, make it entertaining, I want to call it urban cowboy workout or Pilates, Pilates combat training or something weird or combinations like that. And it's just terrible workout program. The second reason, and this is 100% true, and if you're a trainer with a lot of experience, you know exactly what I'm talking about. If you want to design a good workout program without, I mean a good, a well-made one that's going to produce good results, it's going to be appropriate, it's scalable, meaning somebody as a beginner can continue to do this as they get stronger and more fit or somebody could enter into it as an intermediate and advanced and still get great results. That requires way more knowledge and creativity when you don't have a lot of equipment. If I have tons of equipment, I still need to know what I'm doing, but if I'm thinking of back exercise, I have 15 different options. When I'm thinking, oh, we don't have much equipment, we have a band or maybe a pull-up bar like, okay, what are some of the movements I can do for correcting upper posture or strengthening the back or how am I going to work the glutes effectively when I don't have any equipment or the quads or what about the calves or what about the shoulders? I don't have anything I can press overhead, so how am I going to give this person a great workout with different angles? It requires more experience, more creativity, and it's just harder to do. So a lot of the program you see at home, it's just terrible. Yeah, I know you guys have been seen like lots of hilarious ideas, like creativity-wise out there, what to do with it. My favorite, my personal favorite, I have to share this, was... This was technically, I guess it was a squatter, they were trying to target their glutes, but they had their hands up in the air like this, they'd squat down, they'd come and then they'd do like a side bend, sort of trying to get their oblique to crunch and then lift their leg up at the same time with their arms up in the air like jazz hands. That was amazing! Yeah, let's combine five different exercises. I mean, the person who's asking this question has probably already got a pretty good idea because the fact that you notice that right away that many of these programs just throw burpees in there and the reason why you see that in these workouts is it's an easy way... It's like a burpee button. It's such an easy way to elevate a client's heart rate and make the workout feel hard. If you do 30 burpees and then you go to do a push-up, a lunge, squat, any other body weight movement, it's hard because you just did 30 burpees. Well, this is a time-tested trick. It's just the same trick that parallels like supplements where they want you to feel something right away and then you think it's working because I feel it. Like, intensity is something that is overused because I feel it, so therefore, this is good. It used to be back in the day jumping jacks, then burpees became... Look, if you have an at-home workout program that includes burpees and it's not an OCR training program, it's probably a bad program. It's probably a crappy program. The only time burpees... Not the only time, but for the most part, the only time burpees are appropriately programmed are when you're training for obstacle course racing where burpees is part of the competition. Other than that, if you see it in your program, it's probably a crappy program. There's something high intense, but you got... Yeah, the intent has to be there. We're hammering intensity, but I want to make it clear too, though, that it doesn't mean that an at-home workout can't be really challenging. Really challenging, and then just laying into the intensity without any sort of real thought behind the program. You have two different things. Yeah, because you can make... I mean, how often do you guys get tagged in maps anywhere where guys sort of feel like, oh, my God, that kicked my butt. That was hard. Sure, absolutely. It definitely can be hard. But here's another way, too, that's more simple for the person who doesn't understand what we're talking about with programming and exercise design. They're like, okay, I feel like you still didn't answer me. If you feel like when you're done, you got more of a cardiovascular workout from it than you got a muscle building workout, and you should feel a good muscle pump, muscle soreness from the next day, more so than you feel like I just ran a mile. Because that's what a lot of these at-home workouts are. They're just... They're a bunch of exercises put in a circuit with low rest periods, and really what that is is just more like cardio. It's less like... It's more anaerobic than it is anabolic. You're not sending this big muscle building signal when you're not giving any rest period and you're constantly going from exercise to exercise. Yeah, if you... And here's the thing, aerobic doesn't require a lot of programming. It's actually not that hard. If you want to improve your aerobic capacity, then go hike up a hill or do some sprints or jump in place. You're going to get some of that. You don't need workout programming for that. But when it comes to building muscle, speeding up the metabolism, sculpting the body, where you can actually shape the body because you're working and building muscle, that requires more programming. And I'll say, I'll make this challenge all day long. I would put maps anywhere up against any at-home workout program. And I would 100... I'm fully confident it would be superior to 99.9% of the ones that I've seen what's out there. I've never looked at an at-home program and said, wow, that was written well. It's almost never happened. We just need an infomercial. Next question is from Shea Goes West. What are some of your favorite healthy food swaps? For example, I use Greek yogurt as a replacement for sour cream. Oh, this is Adam. This is your wheelhouse because of competition. Well, yeah. No, I think that's a Greek yogurt can be used for so many different things. Cocoa whip is another really cool one that I use for like dessert cravings. God, it's been a while since I've actually thought in this direction of like different healthy food swaps. You know, you can add cinnamon to things and add a little bit of stevia and cinnamon, and it just tastes like sugar. Tastes like a sweet cinnamon flavor. When I was trying to lower my alcohol consumption, it was definitely mineral water and lime and mint and things like that to kind of dress it up, like garnish it at least. So it felt like I was still hanging out and partying. Because I can't have dairy, I forget about all the great dairy options. And one food that was a staple for bodybuilders and competitors forever, for good reason, is cottage cheese. Cottage cheese is high in protein. You can get low calorie versions of cottage cheese. You can get a higher calorie version. You can get full fat cottage cheese. You could put that on almost everything or add fruit to it, and it's inexpensive. And it's a really good source of protein and calories that you could dress up with fruit to make it taste almost like a dessert. If this person's already on the Greek yogurt kick, I have something for you on Greek yogurt. You take Greek yogurt, you strain it over cheesecloth overnight in your refrigerator, dump out all the extra stuff, then you whip like Stevia or something in it, and then it turns it into whipped cream and then you dip like fruit into it. So it's a high protein whipped cream. Oh, that's interesting. Another really good one is cauliflower. Cauliflower is phenomenal for replacing like rices and pastas and crusts and breads. Definitely pastas. Yeah, you can make cauliflower crust. So anything that would require like some sort of a crust in it, you could use it for that. Anything that you would normally use rice or pasta, you can make cauliflower into like rice or pasta bits and it tastes very similar or potatoes. If you would normally do mashed potatoes or something like that, use cauliflower instead. So that's another go-to that I used a lot to replace. Have you guys ever used spaghetti squash instead of pasta? Yeah, that's another great one. I love it. We just had it the other night. We used spaghetti squash all the time. Tony's been doing that a lot since we went to the Tahoe house with you guys and you guys like cooked at that one night. I think it was an option. Yeah, you did spaghetti squash with sauce. It's delicious. Or you can just do it with butter and a little bit of garlic. And then Adam, I know in the past, you've used like low-fat ground turkey to make like lower calorie taco. Oh, yeah. And I mean, I actually, I use that so much that I prefer that over beef now just because how greasy that beef can be. So I've gotten so used to making my taco salads, my tacos with ground turkey. I also use lean ground turkey to boost the protein intake into breakfast. Breakfast is also a really hard one for people to get an extra 20, 30 grams of protein. Most breakfast foods are carb centric. And so taking eggs and then adding like two or three ounces of ground turkey, I love it. We'll make a huge, Katrina will cook up three, four plus pounds of lean ground turkey. And we use it like that in all kinds of different things. We'll use it in like a taco salad. We'll make tacos one night. That's like a treat night for us. Or we'll use it and put it in our eggs that'll boost the protein in it. So yeah, ground turkey is a definite go-to. Yeah, I've been doing wraps. So and this is, again, this is more just like trying to go in the gluten-free side of things. Like I really do enjoy though, like the lettuce wrapped like burgers and then wrapping like turkey wraps and things like that. You get to that crunch. So if you do like an iceberg lettuce or something like that, it definitely like gives you that still kind of a good feel when you're eating a burger. Did I make the rice paper wonton thing for you guys? No. Okay, so here's another cool one. I know, I just, I wasn't ready for this question. So we take a, you know, what are those like muffin or cupcake pans, you know, to where you would make muffins or cupcake center or whatever. And you can get a wonton rice paper, which is like nothing, right? It's like, it's like, oh, I've had this. Yeah, and then you put them in those little cupcake things. So they fold up like a wonton. And then you put ground turkey, a tiny bit of your favorite cheese, tomato, salsa, whatever, throw it in the oven. The cheese kind of melts over the, and then you have these little, you know, rice paper, ground turkey and cheese and salsa little snacks. And it's like extremely local. That sounds really good. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't take, I mean literally one ounce or less of cheese will do the entire cupcake pan. So that's the, like cheese is probably the highest calorie, highest fat thing that you're putting on there. The lean ground turkey is extremely lean. Tomato, salsa, that's virtually nothing. The rice paper is virtually nothing. And it gives you that crunch texture, like you're having chips or something with it. So phenomenal snack. What are those tortillas that are like grain free? They're made with like cassava flour. Yeah, they're low calorie. And you can make all kinds of delicious things with that. You can make quesadillas. You could make burritos that are low calorie with those. And then when I first met you, Adam, you told me about how to make shredded chicken. You would get chicken breasts and you put them in like a crock pot and then you shred it and add it with salsa. Yeah, so that was like- That's low calories. Yeah, that was a go-to meal. This was actually my staple peak week meal where I would, we would boil chicken, which you would think would be terrible, but I would boil it, either crock pot it or boil a bunch of it. And then we would shred it up real thin. And then I'd put it over white rice with salsa and avocado. That's it. And it would taste like a burrito bowl. Really good. And with the green- And I use green salsa. I prefer that for this. So green salsa, avocado, over shredded chicken in a rice bowl. And it was like such a treat in its lower calorie, high in protein. It was my favorite peak meal or peak week meal that I would have. Excellent. Next question is from Kyle Grego. Do you have any book recommendations for the quarantine? Oh, I definitely do. I don't recommend reading non-fiction necessarily, unless it's escape. So unless it's something you can read about historically that kind of takes you away from the current situation. I definitely don't think you should read books on viruses or how to be... Or like Revelation. Yeah, nothing scary. Books are really good at calming the mind and the soul if you use them properly. My favorite books when I'm stressed out are books that help me work on my spiritual self, on my sense of acceptance. One of my favorite books for this was by Eckhart Tolle, A New Earth. Now Eckhart Tolle is... Many people consider him a spiritual leader, but it's not religious. He doesn't talk about anything metaphysical in his books. He talks a lot about the ego and why the human consciousness creates the ego and how it causes a lot of pain and suffering in us. And he talks a lot about how to accept reality and how to be more present. And I read this book or I read most of this book with Jessica maybe a couple years ago. So something she introduced me to. And it had a profound effect on me. It was like two or three years ago. It was maybe a couple years out of getting divorced and working through the whole dual custody thing with my kids. Very, very stressful, difficult time. And that book really, really helped me. And that's something that I could see, that I could pick up right now that would really help me in the current situation. Because the current situation is characterized by uncertainty. We don't know what's going on. We can put ourselves in a lot of pain just by thinking and imagining potential. What if, what if I lose my job? What if I lose my house? What if I get sick? What if my parents get sick? What if this thing explode? My gosh, and that's us living outside of the present. And that tends to cause a lot of pain. And the book, A New Earth, it's all about how to get out of that, how to exercise and practice getting out of that and give yourself a better sense of calm. Yeah, I've been going through a book actually with Courtney as well as Fingerprints of the Gods. You know, Graham Hancock. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, it's great. Because it gives you a lot of ancient history and things that are somewhat on the fringe in terms of being accepted as fact or the theory. And it's just kind of a fun way to kind of look back at history and see how they're trying to kind of put all the dots together. And it's super fascinating to see how certain rituals were practiced, certain things like I didn't know about certain civilizations. And he has like a follow-up book too about like America before. So the Americas have a lot more history that's just being uncovered now that they're finding all these different sites that they're uncovering. So it's just really fascinating to me is just to get into stuff like that. Like it sparks my curiosity. You don't got any, Adam? Yeah, nothing. Little blue truck. What's that? That's what I was reading. You've been reading your stuff. That's what I was reading. Normally I have like lots of book recommendations and normally when somebody messages me the response I normally have is like, what do you like to read first before I recommend a good read? Because it really matters. That matters to me. Like if you're not, like for example, I just recently finished a book that is probably made for sure my top 20 maybe even my top 10 which was how an economy grows and why it dies. Oh, you talked about that too. I think that was like... Who wrote that? Peter Schiff. Is it Peter Schiff? Yeah, Peter Schiff I believe wrote that. And then I'm wrapping up right now Don Yeager's Great Teams. So I think it's the 16 things or 16 things that all great teams do. That one's cool. So the Great Teams is a great one for leadership. So if you're in a leadership position and developing a team, a staff or you enjoy... And you love sports analogies. That one is a very entertaining read that I'm reading right now. And then the economy one by Peter Schiff. I mean, to me, that is... I will reread that book to my son when he gets to the age where he can understand economics where we can have a discussion on that. And believe it or not, I could probably read that too even though like you would think, oh, what kid wants to listen to economics? They tell it in like a kid's story which has made it phenomenal. Like Katrina doesn't even like reading or learning about any of that stuff. She kind of leaves that for me. And I got her to listen to that book after I read it and she loved it because it's just very entertaining the way they tell a story. And I think it pertains to where we're at right now because a lot of times when we're all freaked out right now and everybody's scared to lose their job or have lost their job already and a lot of people are excited that we have this trillion dollar bailout. It gives you a different perspective when you really understand how this economy was built originally. We forget about that sometimes. I think, especially us, we came so much later than... We're standing on the shoulders of giants. You're right. And sometimes the policies and the things that we roll out or the things that we think are great, we have no idea the rippling effect that it potentially could have on our economy. And when you have a really good understanding of how this economy was built from zero, like when nothing was being sold or traded or bought and when you understand the history of it really well, it gives you a greater perspective of what we're currently going through and how we should be handling times like this. And it's done in a children's story. So I can't recommend that book enough. I think it's an important read right now for most people. It's a book I'll reread to my son for sure. There's a book I recommend for you for your kid. It's called Nobody Knows How to Make a Pizza. You told me I wrote that down. Yeah. That one's a really good one. It's by Julie Borowski. And it explains how no single person knows how to make a pizza when you consider all the things that go into it from who grows the tomatoes, to who makes the equipment that gets the tomatoes, to who makes the fertilizers, to who grows the wheat, and you start to realize that there's millions of people that are involved in producing things that we take for granted. Yeah. I have a feeling it's going to be very similar to this one because their whole, instead of a pizza, they use an island where the commodity is fish. This is before money existed. This is before anything. And the only way that you could live was you could catch a fish a day. And at that point in time, everybody had the capability to probably catch one fish a day. It took that way. You didn't have a pole. You didn't have a net. You didn't have anything. It took all day long to catch one fish and that's basically what it took for you to survive until innovation happened. Somebody then made a net, and then it talks about how the entire economy grew from that and they use real characters today. But they give them fake names so you'll know when they're talking about a politician or a policy. So they include that into the story. So it's very well done. And the way they give the analogies off of fishing and how that was a commodity and then how the economy grew from that. And then of course there's challenges where at one point the net's been made and then other people on the island feel that they should have the right to use his net. And so yeah, they help you. And then at the end of every chapter, they actually summarize and work through the challenge and why it's important to decide to go this way or that way and what the long-lasting effect. Yeah, you told me this a while ago. I still haven't looked at it. You definitely know how to eat a pizza. Yeah, you know how to eat one. Yeah. It's interesting. I was watching a video by, I forgot, it might have been Bishop Barron and he was talking about obviously his standpoint is from the Christian religion but I consider him a very strong spiritual leader and so I think there's a lot of wisdom in listening to someone like him and other spiritual leaders from maybe other practices. But he said something interesting. He said God likes it when people feel weak and it makes a lot of sense. I think that's when people seek out spiritual guidance. That's when growth happens, right? When you feel confident and nothing's bothering you and everything's great, that's when you tend to not try to meditate or tend to not pray or tend to not seek out spiritual growth. So other books that may be excellent to pick up during this period of time are books on spirituality. There's of course the great spiritual texts from the major religions, the Bible and Buddhist teachings. It's just a heavy read for the first time. Sure, but I think if, you know, or maybe books about spiritual, you know, these spiritual books, you're right, it is heavy reading. Or a book about how to read it. Yeah, I think this might be a good opportunity, you know, if you're finding yourself like, oh, I need to get rid of this anxiety and stress and I need to read something. Spiritual growth is, I mean, you grow faster and stronger when you feel scared spiritually speaking than when you feel great and confident and everything's going great. So those might be some good options or books in that category. I recommended it to Jessica. Did you read? I know she did, right? Purpose driven life. No, I didn't read it, but she told me about it. And she says my cliff notes. Yeah, she liked it, right? She did, she loved it. Yeah, that's a phenomenal read for that. All along those lines. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com and download all of our guides, resources and books. They're all totally free. We help you with everything, including how to build your arms, how to get a tight midsection, burn body fat, build muscle, how to eat healthier. I mean, it's all, there's tons and tons of resources there. They're all totally free. Again, it's mindpumpfree.com. You can also find Adam, Justin and myself on Instagram. That's where we're most active in terms of social media. You can find Justin at Mind Pump. Justin, you can find me at Mind Pump Sal and you can find Adam at Mind Pump, Adam.