 Welcome back everybody to another edition of the Falcons Audible presented by AT&T and dare I say the final edition of this season. I'll call it the 2020 season even though we're into 2021 as we all know the NFL spills into the next year but this will be our final episode of the season wrapping up a Falcons year of four and 12 of course missing out on the postseason but we're going to talk about some other issues that relate to the Atlanta Falcons and before I get to my guys DJ Shockley and Dave Archer let's talk about what we got on the docket today of course after the final weekend of the regular season the Falcons secure if you will the number four pick in the NFL drafts I'll get the guys thoughts on where they feel like the Atlanta Falcons should attack with that number four pick we'll talk about the 2021 opponents that's also something that gets established right at the end of the season of course you always know you're going to play your conference opponents your divisional opponents but the other opponents that they're going to face this year we'll talk about some of those guys some of those teams how we feel like the strength of schedule stacks up in Atlanta's favor and of course there's been a lot of news going on about the Falcons head coach in the GM so we'll talk a little bit about that and then finally we did hear from Arthur Blank and Rich McKay on the future of the Atlanta Falcons so I'll see if the guys have any mind-shattering thoughts and opinions about what they said and of course one of the biggest areas every single year especially with an aging quarterback is Matt Ryan we'll talk about the quarterback room whether or not he's going to return where the Falcons should go with that but a lot of questions and hopefully we'll deliver not necessarily some answers but some opinions and with that I'll get to my boys because they've always got some good strong opinions some big smiles on their faces even though we've had a bad season as far as the Falcons go we try to keep it nice and positive here keep it entertaining keep it riveting Dave Archer DJ Shockley I want to start with this Arch I want to get your opinion first okay there's been a lot of uh we are we are technically out of 2020 right but we can still talk about 2020 and all the things that came along with it so Arch give me the most weird crazy zany thing about the 2020 NFL season in your opinion well it's really easy for me guys it's this crappy zoom thing we have to do to do these stupid interviews and I've had to do it all year long with okay it starts for me on Monday we have to do the coaches show on zoom then I do a player interview two hours later on zoom and then on Wednesdays when I'm normally again out at flowery branch like I was be at Mondays I've got to do an interview for the coach for the radio for pregame show and an interview with the quarterback for the pregame show all on zoom and hopefully my internet's down and it just so happens that my subdivision decides you know what that subdivision's been there for 20 years we're going to rewire things what so now my my internet's down like half the day then they always pick when I have to be on zoom so I cannot wait if fellas to be able to do this all of us sitting in a in a room together and do a chop up falcons audible but certainly do my duties for falcon radio off of this stupid zoom we've been we've become so dependent on one internet connection and if not we all look silly as we're sitting okay well it's not really breaking up yet but that's what we look like if we if like Dave's saying they're doing internet work at his neighborhood and he's looking out the window saying oh hi guys I'm trying to do work in here please I just get a steady internet connection DJ what's the weirdest craziest thing for you out of this 2020 NFL season well uh arts wasn't round up at all was I mean that didn't really stoke his engine right there to get going that wasn't nothing but uh we've seen I wish we could have had the behind the scenes of when we're getting ready for the podcast and seeing the anger that goes through Dave Archer's brain you can see the stuff popping out of his head I mean I wish we could have seen those outtakes those the fans I know would really really love but for me I have one word I may show it to you here for the most 2020 thing is wearing these guys how about wearing masks how about here here's some instances I've never seen a helmet in my entire life have a mask I haven't seen the most people wearing a mask as an accessory to your outfit and I think the number one mask story of the entire year started back in week one where we saw Andy Reed's mask that he wore in the first game of the year and how fogged up it was and then as the year went on the technology got better these dudes had fans inside those masks I mean who thought coming into 2020 masks would be the main storyline for coaches players people in general walking around in daily life but the number one for me is Andy Reed's mask in week one and he act like it didn't bother him and nobody could see his face it was DJ about the only one that thought we needed to somehow invent some face shield windshield wipers for him to clean off his mask it was unreal it was the defrosters which you needed you needed a defroster blowing at a bad boy can we turn that thing on high please oh man all right so so we got internet connectivity and zoom for arch we got mask wearing from DJ and for myself I'm not actually going to go with a weird one I'm going to go with something that I think is is kind of something we're going to go back and reflect on because most of us saw the college football season you know DJ calls games I call games Dave does a little bit as well there was a ton of games that got cancelled for college this year obviously we talked about Ohio State sliding into the playoff because at first they weren't even thought that they were going to play enough games to be qualified but yet after last weekend the NFL got every single game in which is unbelievable and I came into this season back in let's call it July or August and I was saying guys I'm sure you'd be in the same camp because our careers revolve around football right that that America needs football right after everything that had gone on between the spring and the summer I just felt like they needed that release that excitement that that thing that they attached to right so I'm going to give a pat on the back to the NFL for finding a way through their scheduled matrix to make everything work with the COVID and the protocols and the bumping of games and playing on a Tuesday or a Wednesday or double headers on Mondays or random game schedules on Sunday they somehow some way found a way to get it in guys I think that was truly impressive how they were able to do it yeah I like that I like that unbelievable I mean you look at what it took daily for these guys to get ready to play and I saw a tweet other day that I owned Kurt Binkert put out said tomorrow morning will be the first time that I wake up it won't have to worry about taking a COVID test to get into the building so yeah I'm really more than these dudes made it through all these games it is and to your point DG I wish we could have some players on here to tell us about what they thought was the most 20 the weirdest thing that they've had to go through because as you mentioned you talk about the things that they had to go through to practice to play to get ready each and every week is just is one thing that they're never going to forget throughout the course of their lives so no doubt all right so there's kind of some weird crazy reflection moments of 2020 so let's get back into a little bit of down and dirty and as I mentioned the Falcons wrapped up if you will the number four pick now of course the Houston Texans and the Atlanta Falcons tied with a 4 and 12 record Houston slides into the number three slot Atlanta ends up with the month number four due to a strength of schedule DJ let me start with you what are your thoughts of this number four slot for Atlanta versus remember we're just a couple of weeks away from a really tight game against Kansas City if they could have somehow some way pulled off a win against Tampa that number four maybe changes to seven or ten but what are your thoughts on this position at four right now so you know what I think four is a really good spot and I think four is a good spot for a couple different reasons for one is you have a couple options there that I think can absolutely bow well for the Falcons and whether it's a lot of people think it's going to the quarterback route or a lot of people think it's possibly going to get a quarterback for me I think of it as this if you're not able to get the top guy in this draft for the top two guys at that spot there's no reason to go that route and me and Archive had the conversation the last couple weeks about it and it's kind of where our both our minds have gone is if you're able to move back a couple spots if you were able to say like you mentioned win that ball game first Kansas City and now you're seven or eight that's kind of the spot where I think you fit really well because there are some guys I think that are going to that spot that are fit your team need wise better than maybe a four where you have a bunch of different options and maybe you take a guy that is probably just because he's most available or the best guy that the spot that you take so I'm in the spot of if you're able to somehow move back a couple spots and get a couple guys and I'm all about quality and developing this roster to this fullest capabilities if you're able to do that I think you can still get the same value a couple spots back as you would at four and get a couple more picks so interesting Arch DJ's thinking about his his idea is more sliding back from that number four slot and it's interesting we talked about this a couple times I got two quarterbacks here on this podcast with me and Dave I saw a couple of mock drafts and maybe they've been updated after the first round of the college football playoffs that have Justin Fields slotted into that number four slot albeit to Atlanta Falcons so are you liking where Atlanta is at number four maybe for a guy like Justin Fields or do you like DJ think that they need to slide back a little bit and maybe stockpile some picks well it's first of all let's point out that you hate to be at number four because that means you weren't very good this last season right but if you are in the number four spot there's a couple things to keep in mind in my opinion is if I'm the new coach and general manager coming in and I know that the owner and president and CEO both Arthur Blank and Rich McKay have said we're not married to anybody on this roster there is no sacred cow on this roster whether it's Ryan or Jones or whoever that frees me up to know that if I want to use number four on a quarterback and the one that I want the one I covet is potentially there which he very well could be if that's Justin Fields or Zach Wilson whoever it might be then you have the ability to do that so to me that makes the job very attractive in another way we're going to talk about that here later on about the GM and the head coach and how attractive and what would you say that's one of those I think little nuggets that you have if you're Mr. Blank that you have hanging there and then you also have the ability to do what Shock's talking about be able to trade back and garner a couple more picks if I've got somebody at 16 or 17 that wants to jump up is there some way I can I can garner an extra pick can I get three of the top 36 players in the draft or somewhere in that neighborhood to where I can get uh where I can address the corner I can address edge rusher I can draft a running back one of those top two running backs in the draft that would be my preference but I do get and let me ask you guys this if this team has Justin Fields sitting on the on the table at four and he's a local kid and we don't take him and you don't draft based on what your fan base wants you to do that's what the fan base wants this team to do is take Justin Field what do you do in that situation when you're thinking about your consumer and trying to you know make sure that they're they're excited about your draft excited about your product moving forward that's a real tough nut to crack now if Fields is on the board at four and you decide to trade back and you get a good player into like a Patrick Sertan at something at eight that makes that other corner fill out of the corner spot but Fields is still on the board that will be very interesting to see the afforditude and the thought process that goes into either staying or moving back stirring the pot a little bit DJ but DJ you're the you're actually the guy to ask this question because Dave threw it back to us let's remember the Georgia Bulldogs and Kirby smart decided to go with Jake from over Fields and Fields ends up transferring he goes to Ohio State and Ohio State becomes a juggernaut and some would say the quarterback position has never really lived up to the expectation at Georgia so just like Arch mentioned there's going to be some local pressure if you call it are they going to let Fields get away from him again it's not the Atlanta Falcons but they're just saying in a sense of Georgia okay so do you think that there's going to be some of that pressure with Fields sitting there with Matt Ryan at 35 years old it is back up Matt Shob at 39 years old oh absolutely absolutely I mean if you just think about I know we're going to talk about this as well what Arthur Blinks said when he first came on yesterday in his press conference he said I want to do the best thing that makes our fans happy and right now making the fans happy putting butts in the seats bringing a homegrown kid who was in your backyard already and maybe one school didn't handle it the right way and now you got an opportunity to uh get a guy like that and you don't pull the trigger on it there's going to be a lot of pullback I think from the fans to say to say the least so I absolutely understand it I absolutely agree with what the fans may believe that may be the best spot but we also have to take an account we don't know yet who is the GM who is the head coach what style of offense you're going to run what style of system you want to have in play so all that goes into play as we get further on and right now we can you know we can do the what ifs but I think at the end of the day that's a big call and if it's a head coach that wants a style of quarterback like that you absolutely pull the trigger yeah so DJ you make a great point as you kind of wrapped it up is is if we had a head coach if we had a general manager already in place and you know what their style was you know what their tendencies were then maybe you could have a better maybe a more informed opinion on this situation but because those two positions are still vacant as we stand right now there's still a lot of speculation but we'll see what ends up happening there will be a lot of talk about this between now and the draft but let's talk about the 2021 opponents as I mentioned earlier those have been established already knew the conferences the divisions that they were going to play the AFC East and the NFC East so you got an AFC East that was pretty strong this year with Buffalo Bills one of the best teams in the NFL the NFC East one of the weakest divisions in the NFL then you added uh as Atlanta finished fourth in their division they're going to play the fourth place team from the NFC North the Detroit Lions and the fourth place team from the NFC West which was the San Francisco 49ers so Dave let me get your just kind of your first impressions as the actual opponents not the dates for the Atlanta Falcons fell into place after this last weekend how that sets up for Atlanta next year yeah it's really interesting because you've got you got two ends of the spectrum you just talked about it Iraq and that the AFC East was really pretty good this year even with a down year the Patriots they still were very competitive and they'll have to retool our offense well they draft the quarter big interesting see what they potentially do jets are down jets are going to be at the top of the draft trying to fix things like the Falcons are but the Dolphins missed out on the playoffs right at the end of the season in their loss at Buffalo Buffalo knocked them out of the playoffs and Buffalo is a team that a lot of people think might be the only team in the AFC that can beat the chiefs and so Buffalo's team and Shawn McDermott that's a good football team good on offense good on defense on the other side of the slate you got the NFC East right and I've never seen so much vitriol come down about a way a team finish the sieves and the Eagles management of the quarterback position boy Doug Peterson he'll be lucky to survive this just from the fan base in Philly but Giants Cowboys Eagles and the Washington football team who essentially made the playoffs by default so you got two ends of the spectrum two one conference that used to be the dominant conference in the NFC in the east is down and then you've got the the AFC east which is which were pretty good this year the Lions you played the Lions this year you lost to them and in the 49ers were in the Super Bowl last year guys and all of a sudden the 49ers not in the playoffs and that and that kind of tells you how difficult it is in the national football league yeah DJ you look at the home schedule outside of the NFC south opponents everybody has a losing record but I would I would kind of answer that by saying Atlanta is a 4 and 12 team this year that has their own areas that need to be addressed so you can't sit there and look at it and say they've got a great home slate they should be able to go 8-0 against that schedule or call it 6-0 if you want to take out the Saints and the Buccaneers but what were your first impressions DJ after you saw the list of opponents that Atlanta is going to face next year the one thing is I tried not to look at the records because we all know what the records are and what they're saying like you just mentioned our team was 4 and 12 but there's absolutely you know I don't know how many was it arts may notice better than me but you know six or seven games where you got you were then one score so that could go either way and now you're sitting here at maybe nine and seven who knows so I tried not to look at the records for me but the one thing that that stuck out to me was you got the past the Lions the Jets and Philly and the Washington football team that's five ball clubs right there that you will play at home that could possibly have new quarterbacks next year and that's something that you go into a season with saying okay you're going to have a regrouping or a re-establishing of a new guy that position how does that work out for him and every year we've seen regardless of in one division down the next year that division can be up and we've seen it in you know the NFC software the team that's finished last next year finishes first so you never know what can happen from year to year so you can't kind of I don't ever want to group last year's team with the next year's team because we know different personnel maybe different coaches come in and you have a different outlook but the first thing that jumped out to me was the amount of new quarterbacks that you may see next year on these entirely different ball clubs that can make them an entirely different team. Yeah it's going to be very interesting to see how this plays out but you make a great point this next team in 2021 with a new GM and a new head coach and potentially a lot of different personnel will have a completely different identity so we'll see how they end up attacking it once this team gets put together and they step foot on the field next year. Speaking of that position of general manager and head coach it's starting to pick up steam because once the regular season wraps up the postseason is here especially for the teams that get buys the teams that are looking for coaches the NFL excuse me the Atlanta Falcons and general managers as well has become very busy so I would imagine Rich McKay Arthur Blank and the rest of that personnel department have got a calendar that's filled to the max so one thing they came out with a press conference yesterday and I'm sure you guys have probably seen snippets of it maybe you watched it in entirety one thing I wrote down that Arthur Blank said he said this is not a game of patience it's a game of results because there's always that question about are you going to try to win right now and everybody's going to say we want to win right now but there's also got to be a short term a mid term and a long term goal with this team so after what you guys saw from the two guys that are in the most power of the Atlanta Falcons organization I want to get your opinion on where you feel like this head coach and general manager search sits right now Dave because even Rich McKay said yesterday their list of candidates for GM they may not even make it all the way through that list right yeah and I sat and watched and listened to the whole thing with Mr. Blank and with Rich McKay yesterday and I wrote down some things as well the vision idea you talked about short term mid term long term I thought was very important to keep in mind because they he felt like that he needed to have the coach and the GM had need to have a shared idea as to what that looks like that's the difficulty of juggling this thing as hiring a coach and a GM now how do you what order do you hire him and do you hire a GM that can be a part of the coach's search you've already talked to a couple of coaches already potentially that are on your list we've got an Eric Biennamy coach Sala from the 49ers we're both interviewed on Monday so obviously that search has already begun and the GM is not in place potentially be a part of that so it's going to be very important that they're able to weigh the philosophies I know that Mr. Blank said some things that I thought stuck out to me he said I don't believe an owner should hamstring his people that are going to make the decisions I thought that was very pointed he made a very very pointed point of reiterating his fact that he is not tied to any particular idea as long as you have a plan that meets the criteria you just talked about rack that you can do short term mid term and long term he also said and rich mckay said this he said sustainability of your philosophy has to be in place and what does that mean well if you win people are going to come get your coaches okay we saw it happen here in Atlanta went to the Super Bowl Kyle Shanahan was gone do you have the sustainability to maintain revolutions on offense with Kyle gone well there's some thought that we weren't able to do that and that's one of the reasons we're in the hole we're in so that's also going to be a part of the mix as you look long term if we do get back to success which I firmly think we will with with Mr. Blank and rich mckay guide in the ship what's your sustainability let's win now and let's get it going but when guys come and get your coaches what are you going to be able to do you're going to be able to keep it going I thought that was very interesting as well yeah and DJ one thing that kind of stuck out to me that rich mckay said as well is that they are not going to sacrifice the future by anything that they're going to do in the immediate so what what that meant to me was making any huge trades where they're going to have to give away a bunch of draft picks or something like that because they want to grow and build this team but I'm curious from your standpoint what stuck out to you as far as this head coach and or general manager search from what you heard yesterday from Arthur Blank and rich mckay there are a couple things and aren't alluded to the fact that yeah you've interviewed a couple head coaches already when you get the GM GM in line does that happen again because obviously Arthur Blank and rich mckay can go to the the GM and say hey here's what the conversation was like between whoever the head coaches may be and then the GM is going to want to come back and say all right I want to sit down with these guys as well so we may get a chance to see these guys for multiple times if you're Arthur Blank and rich mckay which goes a long way the second part of it is when I when I watched the the press conference the thing that stuck out to me that rich mckay said was it's about the process over power and I thought the process of going through this situation meant more than the power and a lot of people think about okay the GM the head coach who's gonna make all the decisions all that kind of stuff matters yeah but it's about getting to the process of who are the best 53 who are the the guys that can help this staff continue to move this this organization into the right direction it's not about the egos because a lot of people think about the egos of this situation of okay here comes a new guy he gets to do everything his way but I think it's all about the process of how they get to this point as opposed to who makes all the decision who gives all the power to make these you know crazy decisions as we go into the draft so the process over power I thought was a huge statement that I thought risk became mentioned you know one another thing rack real quickly I just want to mention and the jump into your thoughts on it uh mr blank said something else that I thought was very important and it might have just kind of been glossed over was he says we have to acknowledge our own failures and that's him being introspective on the selections and the process they went through like shocks talking about and rich mckay as well about acknowledging where they missed it and rich talked about how are you looking at an offensive guy or defensive guy and he told the story about going to get bobby patrino and how that was a that was a failed mission because of the way they approached that so they are acknowledging and looking and self evaluating we look at it as you know the self scout we talk about as analysts and talk about in football they're scouting themselves as the mistakes they've made prior that they're going to try to stay away from those potholes they fell in before I thought that was very important as well and racked it to piggyback off that I think just to take it a little bit step further you also mentioned the fact of okay when we've been in this position we've done the self scout like ours talked about but to have new fresh minds come in and say okay I understand the financial I understand the players that are here right now but have you thought about x y and z and they said throughout this process they've learned the more they've learned more about their organization because they've had different eyes being able to come in and get a different look on what they're doing so I thought that was pretty uh pretty prominent that they mentioned they're learning in this process as well not just going out and saying hey what do you want from us they're learning about their team as well as well as doing a self scout so I thought that was pretty cool with all the success that arthur blank has had throughout his business career with home depot and his family businesses rich mckays experience as a as a lifelong nfl guy and more most recently executive I feel like Atlanta's in a great position and yet you could sit there and say that they made some mistakes but just like arch mentioned they acknowledge those mistakes whether it was personnel whether it was coaching staff they've acknowledged those they're trying to use all of that information to make this higher these hires better in 2021 for the Atlanta falcons so let's take that one step further dj let me start with you so if you had a message for the new head coach or general manager of the Atlanta falcons as far as how they're going to approach 2021 or maybe maybe just their tenure with this organization that would be what when I watched this team this season and I watched certain things that took place the one thing that was a glaring glaring issue for me was the details of the game and I'm sitting there watching stuff that happens throughout a game and as players we all know about the situational awareness and as fans watching the game with situational awareness is as simple as it's third and 12 and you're the corner on the right side and you have the deep third but you don't play the deep third because there's a guy that's in the underneath zone but that's not your responsibility your responsibility to be on the deep third you have a guy playing underneath so don't worry about that those are some of the things that that really irked me throughout the year is the emphasis on details and if I have the opportunity it's making sure that this team understands the emphasis for details situational ball and finishing is just as important as starting a ball game we've seen sometimes throughout the year where you start a ball game you don't finish you may finish well but you don't start those are things that have to be ingrained into this ball club because we saw it too often this time this year we saw it through 16 ball games there was an emphasis where sometimes guys weren't doing what they're supposed to do early in the year or late in the year you weren't concerned about how you start as opposed to how you finish yeah arthur said something yesterday in his in the press conference arch that i'll kind of lead you in with and he's kind of making a joke and he was talking to the media members that everybody has their answers for how they're going to fix the franchise but nobody ends up submitting their names for either of those positions the head coach or general manager which is what we're kind of doing right here but arch your message for the next head coach or general manager would be what well i think first of all you got to get him to come in right and so you've got to sell the program to a certain extent obviously they're going to come in with a plan and an idea and you're going to sway me to hire you with your plan but also i've got to show you there's six or seven other spots available in the national football league that a lot of these guys are going to get interviewed for so i have to sell myself to a certain extent to them to make sure that they understand and i think it all begins with mr blank ownership is huge in this league and there's been no one more dedicated from a facilities from paying guys to providing every possible opportunity to come in to a first-class operation how you travel i'm fortunate to travel the club how where they stay what they do there is not a cost cut ever in mr blanks that's not who he is he expends everything he possibly can't to make sure that the guy that's coaching in the gm have every resource available that's first and foremost for me if i know that that gives me the warm and fuzzy feeling guys about the job right away and oh by the way this roster's got some guys that have been to the mountaintop before this is the bunch not a bunch of guys that have never done it before there's a good number of guys that were standing on this football team on the field in houston when that disaster happened but they won their way to the super bowl in 2016 a good number of those guys are still on that roster that tells me that i've got guys that know how to get there now i've got to provide them that path to get there and the situational awareness that shocked up the bag except that he and i have talked about every sunday this is a team that's devoid of situational awareness that'll be the first thing from a coach when you come in you're going to need to provide to these players but those things to me line up to make this job very attractive you know i think we're all kind of on the same page here and what our message is and it's it has something to do with what we've seen on the field or what we didn't see on the field and just some things that we feel like maybe can help the next regime have some success and and i'll kind of finish with this and and we'll get things wrapped up but i feel like it's it's a situation where it's not rocket science but it is guys right because being a head coach and motivating 53 grown rich men is extremely difficult but this new general manager and this new head coach have got to find a way to get these players to play harder to play smarter to play faster and what i would call have a relentless pursuit to win every play every quarter every game because as you guys mentioned starting has not been so good finishing has not been so good but no matter if they're an undrafted free agent or they're a veteran that just signed a hundred million dollar contract they need to adopt a mindset that every single play might be their last and they've got to win that play whether it's protecting matt ryan in a past play whether it's blocking up front for whoever the running back is going to be next year whether it's not missing a tackle in the flat against some of these electric playmakers in the nfl every single play we always talk about four to six plays usually makes the difference in a ballgame can they make those four to six plays next year the year after and the year after and maybe that will be the difference in getting them back into the post season fellas well said rack unfortunately real quickly before we jump out real quickly matt job has decided to retire from the national football league matt job will not be celebrated as one of the great players that's ever played the game and he probably should be matt job had a tremendous career was drafted here all the way back what an o4 came in as a as a young quarterback backed up michael vick went on to have outstanding career at houston it was a pro bowler a pro bowl mvp threw for over 4 000 yards three times i think in his career two or three times in his career an illustrious career 39 years of age matt's going to step away he's got a young family he said i think he's going to give him some broadcasting as well but i just want to wish matt job one of the more gracious and cooler dudes i've had a chance to be around wish uh him luck in his next endeavor which i'm sure will be very successful the man from virginia who came in here to backup the backup michael vick went on to have an outstanding career and lasted to his 39 years of old uh just uh best wishes to matt job and his family just to piggyback on that i had the opportunity to spend a couple of years with shabby before he went on to houston and for me to be a rookie to come into the national football league and for me to have the opportunity to sit in a uh a quarterback room and share it with him uh was probably one of the better moments and times in my career as far as being with him and also being with matt because i learned so much from those guys i remember uh just being more of a student of the game learning from shabby shabby was one of those guys who you would tell him the personnel you would tell him the ending of the play and he knew the beginning like just one of those type of guys who gave everything he had from day one and supported me who was a guy who you know you draft a guy to come in he looking at him like maybe he's a replacement but the guy helped me anytime i asked and still a good friend to this day so uh well said arch and he definitely deserves to be mentioned uh as one of the guys who have done it and done it at a high level 16 years just does not happen overnight and it's a reason why this guy uh is being celebrated by us for sure good friend of ours and uh was actually one of my holders uh early on i should say about midway through my career but when he was young uh it was one of my holders and uh i'll leave you guys something real quick my wife and i had a pretty integral part in setting up him up with his now wife uh and uh i don't want to take any credit for the fact that he's married and he's had a very happy marriage because that's all him and his wife but uh wishing him the best his wife lori and his beautiful kids as as you guys both mentioned he's going to have plenty of success in his life after football so uh we're hoping that we have some success after life after this podcast dj davie i appreciate you guys letting me uh jump in the boat with you guys this year as we talk some falcons some issues around the nfc south and national football league uh and i would be remiss if i didn't thank a couple of guys sam larson and dan gab two guys from the falcons digital media department that have been uh our rocks keeping us prepared giving us all the details and uh sam fighting through zoom and editing as best as he could throughout the entire season who dislikes it more sam or so uh you know right we appreciate you rowing the boat for us oh i see what you did there with a little minnesota reference uh yeah it was my pleasure uh so that's gonna wrap it up uh for this uh season of the falcons audible presented by atnc i'm derrick wrackley is again my fellas uh dj shock me they've archer it's been a joy it's been a pleasure with you guys this season and hopefully they'll ask us back to do some stuff in the future uh with that being said fellas uh let's uh let's sign off and uh we'll see these atlanta falcons fans hopefully very soon again once again that's atlanta falcons presented atlanta falcons audible presented by atnc i'm gonna get it right here before the end of the season uh that's gonna wrap things up for us appreciate everybody joining us have a great day and a great off season we'll see everyone you're listening to falcons audible 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