 18615 and we'll open this meeting first by verifying that it's been properly warned now that- I didn't mark them off, but he was saying that. Yeah, yeah, and so where is our alternate other than using Max now? I have it at the hardware. I was gonna try to put it at the skit part as well. I'd still like to hear from Sherman V Allen that they can't allow legal notices up, but it can't, I'd say, you know, another tradition of how we should do the decision. Yeah. It's on the website and you want to look at it right now. Okay, because we don't want to break any rules. And does anyone have any amendments to the agenda tonight? Bruce, you said you wanted to add something. I'd like to talk about, here's all, utility bill. Mason, who has- Yeah, I was just about to need to talk about the utility bill overall. So if anything, you just want to bring up this panel together. Then we'll move on to the minutes from- Do we have to do these first? I don't know, I don't know. I just said bring on all these things first. Well, let's get rid of the minutes. Okay. So, yeah. I have a small adjustment, two minutes. Yeah, I think, on which one, the March 26th? I think one, I guess. It said 2,000 to 1,300, the feet that I would be in is 1,350. 1,350. And there's also a little typo on the first paragraph, but there is now no, there actually is not a typo so much as it's W, needs to be with the AY, no way instead of now A. Yeah, okay, so that I'm gonna move. All right, I will change those. But with those two corrections, besides moving, approve those minutes, those two corrections? Nice, seconded. All in favor? Aye. All right. And then we also have the minutes from the April 3rd special select board meeting. And I thought those were pretty clear. I'd move to accept those as typed up. Second. All in favor? Aye. All right. Okay, we'll look at those. And we're going to, I guess we're having we'll have a public hearing regarding the two rivers, Odd Creek Regional Planning Commission's town plan update. So I move we go into that special meeting and basically this is kind of a preliminary stop gap update to get the town plan in a shape where we can reapply for our village designation, which requires a few other things, which is basically some language that was plugged in from other plans addressing the forest block and habitat connector for statute requirements, a flood resiliency element, which is required by statute. And also the required language to renew Rochester's village designation. So this is now the total, now we're not adopting the total new plan. We're just adopting these three required pieces to further our application for the downtown designation. And does anyone have any input or questions about that? So the three required pieces again or what? I didn't get them all. All right, there's a language addressing forest block and habitat, connect the wildlife habitat connectors, connections, which includes a new town plan map showing high priority forest habitat in Rochester. And also a section addressing flood resiliency and other specific language required to renew Rochester's village downtown village designation. And I guess I explained it pretty clearly. Nobody has any questions. So I'd move to adopt these changes to the town plan. And I've moved to close special hearing and move on to the rest of the regular select board meeting. So we have, okay, we've got this out of the way. We've got the amendments on Bruce. Do you have a question about the Pierce Hall utilities? Yeah, back on March 20th, I got to call it home in the evening that there was no heat in Pierce Hall. So I went down, tried to get the furnace running and it wouldn't run at all. So I called CV and they came and diagnosed the problem as a, there's a low boiler water safety switch. Shuts off the whole system at the water level when the boiler gets too low so you don't damage your boiler. So they added some water, everything looked good and we all left in the wee hours. So the next morning I went down and the furnace was off again. So at that time they believed that the problem was a leak in the system and there was nothing that we could see, any radiators leaking or anything like that. So they came back but the system was shut off. So there was no water running through that system. The next morning they came back in with Harvey's folks and by going through our different zones they determined that the leak was actually in our radiant heat system in the floor of the lower level, the nearest part. So at that point you could see some staining in the cement of that floor but up until that time I'm in that building quite often, to say the least and I had not seen any evidence of a leak. So that zone was shut down to prevent any further leakage and we got the furnace back up in operation and time for our annual big fundraiser, Mardi Gras fundraiser on that Saturday. When Terry came to read the meter, he discovered that in this past quarter we've gone through 50,600 gallons of water. Water? Water he said, right? Water, correct. So my point is, as soon as we saw evidence of a problem we acted upon that problem immediately within basically 24 to 48 hours. There was nothing that Pierce Hall did to cause that problem. Thermostats were turned on to 50, nothing that we knew about. So I'm asking if there can be some kind of relief on that bill for 50,600 gallons. What was the last, what's your usual use? About 2000, one form. About 2000. And the other point is that it was a subsurface leak so it's going down into our drainage system and it didn't go into the wastewater, the sewer system at all. So it didn't impact the town wastewater. It's just meters we're running for a while. As far as we can tell and Terry ran the figures this evening, it doesn't appear that it had been leaking to previous quarter. Something happened in the first quarter of 2018 to cause that pipe leak. So we're hoping we can get a little bit of a break on that quarterly bill. You gotta realize there's two feet of stone in the bottom of Pierce Hall. So I mean, that's pretty good leaching for a cracked pipe or something. So, and it might have started with last reading, the first reading last time was a little bit high but it wasn't stressful high at all. I mean, it could be just, and we're talking 1000 gallons difference there. So I mean, it could have been just starting then. I mean, I can't imagine a crack and the radiant heat would just, it's not like a pipe just breaks right off and you got a whole shooting match here. So they're radiating pipes are they embedded in the concrete or? No, you're pointing to radiant heat. Heat pipes are put on blue board, they're just able to the blue board and the cement board on top. So any crack to it underneath would just, this would fall. But Terry, I have a question on that green system that's not a closed loop system. It is, but it's got automatic boiler feet. So it's just gonna keep feeding it. It's like, it's no different in your house one. If you get a little bit of air, it feeds in the water automatically. Right. So that's what it was doing. Yeah. It was feeding it quite regular for quite a while. Up until the point where the feet couldn't keep up with the loss and shut the system down. You must broke completely off and then, you know, then it just wouldn't do. So has that, has that leaked in though? Do you know as much exactly where it is? We know which loop it is. And right now we've got that whole zone shut off and there are three individual loops within that zone and we're going to test the suspect loop to make sure that's the one and cut it off completely. We'll shut that one right down so we can use the other two loops. Are you on trying to tear through there and finally disable that loop and go forward? The best advice that we've had is not to try to repair it because once you do, you've got to leave that repair accessible. So it means some kind of a trap in the floor and that it's occurring in the area that will become the aerobics dance studio. So it'll be warm in there anyway. So if we need it, we're going to run a baseboard in that area. The leak was on the south end of that room. So if we need to in the future, we'll run a baseboard heat in there but we're not going to try to repair it. We'll just shut it off, cap it. How long since that's been installed? Well, it was before I started but I think it was about in 2006, five or six. I believe it was 2006. That was one of the, well that was the second job that happened when Pierce Hall of Renovation started. Does that run off of glycol and then recombinates it? No, no, no, no. I'll strip the water. It's like water. But it seems like a pretty reasonable. It just average it based upon this average use of this time period. Adjusted for statistically what it would be. All right, so, Jerry, can you and I and Joanne get together and work on that? Appreciate it. Thank you. Don't forget we're not in profit. So are you. So are you. I'm just wondering if anybody else. The last few people in there are probably. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. So, do you have something else you want to speak about on utility bills, a different topic? Yeah, I just wanted to, again, speak about back metering in the future, looking forward. And I guess, I mean, I don't even have an idea how much 50 gallons, you know, related to the electric bill or the water as such. But for an example, our water system is a $6,000 electric bill. But I have these numbers, you know, I brought them, I got them from seven different pages and came up with a total that our electric bill is $24,000. And my thought is when do we start back metering to save that type of, you know, expense for future? Yeah, you talked about this last evening, didn't you? Not the idea, you kind of got it right there. And where are you, are you crewing these bills? This isn't your home. No, he's talking about the town. Oh, the town itself, I'm sorry, nothing much good. Is that school included too? No. This is ours, it doesn't include Pierce Hall either, you know. Yeah, just, but it's around $24,000, so. When do we start looking at that possibility? I mean, 10 years from now, that'll add rad up to a quarter million. Yeah, we, the people that showed up at the meeting when we had a proposal for a net meeting, metering agreement with a remote company, that was voted down, so I guess this initiative would have to come up around again, but it's not a new topic. And I don't have an answer for when we're gonna start doing something differently. I have one comment, I think. We might have to wait and see what's gonna happen with the school buildings, because maybe in the future, you know, some of them there could be a solar site. And but not knowing what we're gonna do with those buildings and who may or may not be moving into them or what adjustments we're gonna make. I think that, you know, I think that solar's a good idea. I mean, I live off the grid. But with the uncertainty that was going on with some of our land right now, I just wanna get past that and I would entertain that, for sure. So when you were on the school board, you looked into the, what about the roof on that school? Yeah, that's right. You looked about the roof on the school. Is there issues structurally or what was the problem? There was a lot of hold back because of the asbestos issue still being dealt with. At this time, I haven't seen any detailed reports on any aspects of the building in the sense that asbestos left over up in the ceilings, but there was nervousness about putting panels on the building at that time because it's asbestos. But back metering might be a lot better joining up with a possibly an Addison County farm or an established farm so that we actually aren't owning the equipment, but actually partnership. Well, I understand, but that was that one. There's many of them. There's many possibilities out there. The possibility of owning our own farm, whatever. But there are different directions to go. The question is, is this going to be a 10 year wait or is it something we want to try to? I think we want to be also careful about putting solar on the roofs. Yes. Personally, not a big fan of that if you have the land. I much prefer pole mower or rack mowering for a lot of reasons. There's a lot of good reasons of not putting them on a roof. Yeah, I agree with that. So again, that's some of the reasons. That's not all. That's not the only reason. A lot of us do it snow and maintenance, lots of things. But I think we can, I'm certainly willing to look into that. But if we just get past the school building thing, figure out what we're doing. File then you had a question? I just go along with Tom there. You know it's all flat roof and stuff. The roof's got to be in a really good shape before you do anything else. I mean, it's not that you want to put it on a roof. The roof's got to be in excellent shape before you put the panels on. So you want to do that. That down at the school then, we're getting close to the flood point. I don't know if that's a very optimal place to put it. If you've got rain, that's much water. Mine barely survived the rain. That was easier when we were. How far from the panels when it came? So. Yeah. You have a pole on it or? I'm on poles. But when that river came up, it was six inches from the panels. They back to school, they probably wouldn't have been buried without a doubt. Oh yeah. I think so. Control panels buried. The control panels would have at least. For sure because it went all the way up. Halfway up the seats in the auditorium. Yeah. No, that's not an optimal spot. I don't think it would even be legally permitted to put it in the flood point. So yes, it's a good thing to keep churning on. Anyone out there looking at this from the home viewers, if you have some property, you'd like to donate to the town for a solar or whatever. You can come on to a meeting and tell us please or call. So with the town report, I think it'd be beneficial to be able to have a single total so that the voters can actually see the number. Well, we've been working hard to. I'm not sure why that's. Identify why it's funny. We've worked really hard to break things into smaller totals so budgets can actually be connected to the activities. And we put a lot of work into breaking that number down. So it's actually clearer, more clearly represents the departments that it comes from. I'm sure it's all on the computer, so it's easy enough to press a button and have it. Calculators. Yeah. You managed to come up with it this time, right? Yeah. And now we have it on record, too, that is so. Asin, when you're talking about $24,000, are you talking about just electricity or electricity and heat? No, just electricity. Our fossil fuel bill is another one that's not collectively added up. Yeah. For the same reason. Right. Well, like I say, for the voters' point of view, it'd be a convenient situation to be able to have totals. It's not difficult to do, just go ahead. If it's in the system, just hit the button and give it a total. It wasn't that hard for you to figure that out, but yes, I mean, it could add stuff. I mean, it goes on and on. So if you'd like to put together those totals and present the totals of what were last year, when we're putting the town report together next year, then that would be a helpful thing. And if it could boil down to one page, can we afford one more page or the back of an empty page to put it on? That would be great. Or maybe come to a meeting and next time we're doing a conference and bring a reminder of the suggestion. Marvin is part of the head of the spirit heads. Doesn't he, Marvin, part now? Not in the morning, but in the evenings? No, I mean, the solar part. He was induced about that. I think Larry Pleasant was our energy coordinator. And this was the project that got shot down by the voters that discouraged his energy in that direction. Anyway, that's all that I think is all great. And being able to have our select board have a desire to move forward with this is the leadership. It's something that you three feel strong about for the community. 10 years down the road, we actually might be making money for the voters. Yeah, we've tried once and we'll try again. Thank you. But as the voters shot it down last time. But we're all volunteers here, so we have so much energy. Thank you for bringing it up. Speaking of electric bills, Jerry has a proposal for the bandstand lighting. Yeah. Do you want to tell us a little bit about this? Yeah, did you all receive the email ascent? Yeah, and you've all had a chance to go through it. Yeah, it's kind of discouraging. I think even just for a pass-by, the park is a really wonderful setting that I think is able to have this classic look to it. And with the existing lighting system, I think only one of the fixtures is working. And the colors and the fixtures themselves are old and colored and I think whatever. I think there's only one fixture actually is operable and works for right now. And it's probably old or fluorescent type bulbs are written in there. So this is kind of self-serving because over the last many years, I've been photographing the concerts that happen during the sun in the evenings. And I get to come up with a decent photograph that I'm happy with showing the crowd and the band together. Now, you either see the crowd or we see the band. And I think we owe it to the performance, too, to have proper lighting on. I'm sure most of you have been to a concert at Hancock Green. They just built a new disabled there about three years ago. And they installed a track lighting system for that. And they can hold. I've seen them as many as 20, 25 performers on that stage at one time and everybody's evenly lit. And everyone is well seen. In fact, the first photograph that's on the cover page of the proposal was shot taken at the Hancock disabled. So I initially proposed installing a track lighting system. And then I rethought that shortly before I was going to give this proposal a couple of weeks ago and approached it with a similar installation of just taken down two of the fixtures in the front part of it and replacing it with a cover plate and with an installation box with two standard spotlight fixtures. And that way the spotlights can be adjusted to higher power lamps pointing to the back and to the lower power lamps pointing to the front. So all of the performance would be evenly lit. Along with that would be replacing the existing light bulbs and the existing fluorescence with LED lights. And these LEDs would be a variable in power and installing an ambient timer, ambient light timer, in line. So the lights in the disabled would come on automatically at dusk. And then we would be free to select how long they would stay on. Either stay on for four hours or stay on for six hours and just have a midnight cutoff. And these timers can be easily adjusted to. So the second option would be the least expensive way to do it. And probably the simplest of the installations. So in your page on the pricing here, you're talking about the two options on the bottom. And those include the timers and all that? Yes. Mm-hmm. With whichever option you go to, I still recommend the timer. The timer itself is only $10 or $12. I mean, when I first bought my ambient timer about four years ago, they're going for almost $20. So they come down the price part a bit. So this design is not exactly the same as handcraft. You didn't pattern on it. It's not like handcraft. No, we would only have half of what handcraft has. That's fine. Where are the quotes from? Where did you get the quotes from? From Home Depot, because it's one stop shopping night. It was easier to just get all the quotes on one side. OK, is this equipment considered commercial quality? Is it designed for what? Is it considered commercial quality? Yes, it is. It's going to be sheltered from the weather anyway, because everything is ceiling mounted. Have you put any thought into protecting the equipment from vandalism? That I don't have a handle on until I talk to an electrician and see what the wiring scheme is. I don't know what the wiring scheme is there. I mean, what we have now are just black lights that you really can't get to. And I understand that they're not adequate. There would have to be a decision made in terms of where the switches will go. You start putting in lights that are adjustable and movable. I would think that with the tracks having those lights that are adjustable and movable, those could be installed for an event and then taken out. So we just have your basic lighting, an atmosphere lighting on a timer, just so it's lit. But then if you're going to have an event, then you could pop a couple heads into the press. Well, either going by either the standard spotlight of fixtures or the track lighting, there would be a separate switch assigned to that configuration. Now, we're talking about in terms of protecting the investment from vandalism, not just the even light heads up there that are off and on. You can always have an enclosure box with a switch. Yeah, it's not the switch. It's the actual fixture. All of it? Yeah. Oh, OK. Yeah. Parliament? What about some kind of soft nightlight kind of thing? Well, we would light it up a little bit, and then we could get Nancy and A.R. and a couple of 30 round switch. She could take care of that. Yeah. You can't even get 15. Nancy and then Martha? I think if we're going to be doing any electrical work on that bandstand, what is there is probably 30 plus years old. There's something underneath that controls the lights that don't come on. The electrical outlets that are along the railing are needed, but they could be updated also. We probably could use them all the way along rather than just periodically. And we see this in the winter when we put the Christmas lights on. But I think that probably the entire electrical system on the bandstand should be looked at. Martha, I agree with that, because Joanne and I are in the interior ones who decorate it every year, and we do that. And I really like the idea of having a timer, because it's always bothered me that the lights are on all day long, 24-7, because that's wasting electricity. I think a timer's a great idea. I'd really like to see that happen if at all possible. But I think Nancy's right about some of the existing system would have to have some updating, too. And I know also we've been fortunate in the last few years not to have had a lot of vandalism. That could change overnight, too. If you had some kind of light or something, you know, like a soft, you know, really. But that's what this is. That's what his recommendation is. There's always soft lighting there in the existing. No, it's a detervangelism. It doesn't deter them. Well, the lights are on all night. And that's one of the things I noted in the goal, too, was to reduce the energy consumption to run those lights during the course of the year. LED's in the time range, it would definitely be. Definitely. Yeah, we do save a lot. He said you could also maybe cage the lights, although that doesn't always look great to help vandalism. Well, if you're worried about security, then I would recommend just the standards of spot light fixtures, because those are cheap to come by anyway. And if they wanted to steal an LED bulb, then you've got to be in pretty good space to do that. They'd be pretty hard for them to get up there and steal any of those bulbs that are in the ceiling. Is that a 10-foot ceiling? It's all robbed out of them. Probably more than that. Or take a stick. Is that whole system its own meter? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Because FY19, we budgeted $250 for electrical for that. It's about $20 a month. For all the things that go on on the park? Yeah, it's $250 over budget. For all the things that go on on the park? That's what I wanted to ask you about. The meters so conceivably with the efficiency of the LEDs and the performance spots not being on all the time, just being on on a Sunday evenings in the summer, you could end up with $25, $50 a year for just electrical uses. Well, even though it's a little bit more expensive to go with the track lighting, I would be inclined to use some track lighting for the accent for an event so then things could be put up and not up there all the time. Well, you'd have to get a tall ladder there. But when there is someone who's going to set up a band and they're going to set up, I don't think that would be unreasonable. They'd probably want to get up there and move them if they're going to use that to let them know to bring their own ladder. Well, someone like Robert Mayer would know a lot about you know, dim-blood lighting. He might be a good advisor if you're trying to. It's not exactly that at the end of a concert there's anybody around to even help them do anything. They're gone. Everyone's gone. And most likely, the lights will be staying on all night. Well, I would thank you for this research. And I would move the table this in and talk to have an electrician evaluate what is there and see what we're getting into in terms of we're going to put any investment in there. We want to make sure that is being fed properly. And we need an electrician to do it. When you do commission an electrical contractor to look at this, could you make me aware of that? So I could be there when he's looking at it. So I can exchange my thoughts with him. And you left out as part of your proposal that you left it up to the town to decide if an electrician should still or not. I believe our decision is to publicly access someone on an electrician. So even if it doubles the price, we want the Z-Boat to be secure and safe. I think our insurance is probably a quiet mood environment. All right. All right. Thank you, Gary. You're welcome. No, it says no question that would enhance the scene there. And as I stated in my conclusion, it would be nice to be able to get this done before the first concert. I should have gone on to the agenda with this, too. But did you read your latest VLCT news regarding parades? The one that just came today? I don't know when it came. It's been around for a while. Well, they're talking about the safety of parades. And one of the things that I've been, I think this is a little overkill here, but I've been hearing a lot of people talk about candy that's being thrown from the various vehicles. And people are concerned that kids will get hurt. And that may get hurt. I heard that coming out about a few years ago. I think there was a couple years where we weren't throwing candy. I'm just wondering whether, when the letter goes out for the 4th of July parade, that there could be something in it about maybe soft candy. Yeah, soft candy. Or actually, not a lot of candy. It's not a lot of candy. It's not a lot of candy. Is that new worthers? It's not a lot of candy. Anyway, I'm just bringing it up because it's getting. I'm the person who organizes and does all the work to put the parade together. So it never occurred to me. I've never had anybody complain to me that someone's been hit by a piece of candy. But I can certainly put something in and tell them what life is capable of. And I think if you want to keep it, I just want to throw it down towards the ground and let it slide. Yeah, like for example, Liberty Hill Farm throws a little candy to the cheese. Soft. And that's all. No, it's something that gets you. They throw the candy out. It doesn't get as far as where they are. And they go out. I don't know. It never occurred to me. Short throws. Well, I mean, if you. Thank you. I guess. I guess. I guess. I guess. I guess. I guess. I guess. I guess. Nancy was at their main concern about parade safety. I'm not going into what this thing says. It's overkill. It was a child. They got hit by a vehicle. But here, people have talked a lot about the candy being thrown, and the kids running out into the street, if they don't get it, it's out in the street, they go get it. I can really get specific about it, because it talks about all the insurances that should be had. As I say, I think it's overkill, otherwise we won't even have a parade. I will have to come to, probably in May, I wanted to get permission to have a parade, because I have to get the letter out by the end of May, so it's a good month ahead of time. If you want to discuss this again later and you want me to put something in the letter, I certainly can. I know there will be a lot of disappointed kids with no candy, but it's up to you. Make sure you don't have anybody to tell them what to be funny about. That's the safest way. That would simplify all your traffic. You show me one parade in a state that's not so hard. You don't know how to take return fire. What's that? If you don't know how to take return fire. I'm going to say everybody will be mad about it. You have to play all of your shit. And most of the time, it's all over the place. And it's okay for him to work for you. Shut up. That's all right. That's the worst. The problems we have to deal with are pretty much there. I thought it was going to be some dentist complaining about it. They like it. Yeah, right. Okay, that was fun. Joan, how do you follow up? That's a hard act to follow. I can let you keep talking, yeah? That's okay. The only thing I have tonight is asking you to sign, because I've seen you read those copious notes I left you last time about the road and bridge standards. You're okay with the changes. There are two things to sign. One is your certification of compliance. Saying that you do indeed comply with the state standards now. And then this is the actual newly adopted, well, it's a summary of the newly adopted standards. Keep the sign there. Those two spots. You can send it to VTREN if you can happen. Well, this is considerably different. This is all financial stuff. Okay, that'd be good. The road and bridge standards certification. Yes. Sometimes not. Was that the email that came through today, Joan? Yeah. Guys, get the message. We're going to have a special select board meeting Thursday at one o'clock. Well, you can either do it as a... Well, board does a special select board meeting, but you don't all have to be there. Unless you're interested, of course. It's the annual meeting with the trans folks. To go over our financial plan, which you saw last time and talk about. And we also asked them to afford enough time to take a little tour up and look at the impending trouble on Buffalo Mountain Road. You can get to it. Yeah, but get to see the snow between now and then again. When are they going to do that? This Thursday at one. That's when we're going to take a walk up there? Yeah. Yeah. Hard moves. Hard, isn't it? Didn't you warn that, Joan? That meeting's been properly... Yes. Did you? Why don't you email it to me so I can get it on the website to the notifications. There's nobody here from the library, Mark. Do you have anything that you want to bring up? I'm sure you guys are working on it, but another hat, as far as the LEPC goes. The LEOP, you guys got to have that updated or available for May. It's just a heads up, as you may or may not know. This is probably the last year. It's in that format. It's going to be a whole different thing next year. I know Bethel right now actually is going to the new format. That would be anything, I guess. So there'll be a new format next year. Is there a new format for us? I think it's... I'm not sure if the way Bethel is doing it is the way that we're expected to all the towns to do it. I don't think that's necessarily the case. It's a little bit different format. It's not a fill-in-the-blank type form I guess next time around. Did you get a full choice? I don't know about that either. So... That'll probably be easier, but yeah, I guess I think that they're trying to get the way impression I'm getting on the Bethel side of it so they're trying to get more people involved in it. So, you know, with the stakeholders and whatnot as far as how the plan goes. But I said Bethel's doing a weekly thing, almost a weekly meeting on it. So... It's a little bit different. And some of the bugs are going to work out of it, have a new system I think too. So I know I've got to do grand bills and get theirs done. But basically the template is the easiest way to do it. Yeah. Yeah, because that's the end of the first demand approved by at least one person who has been NEM certified. Which I'm sure you've had. I'm not sure when I'm going to do this yet, but I think I might have mentioned it before a radar trailer. I've got the $8,000 grant line to spend on that. I haven't gotten the price on that yet, but once that comes through and the state accrues that in particular one, they'll have to obviously get the board permission to go ahead and order it. Which I should be doing soon I guess since Spring's coming. Yeah, the issue I'll run into of course is come winter time where that can go. Some law stuff. It should be ideally on the cover page. So we'll have to work about that too. But the idea with the trailers, we don't have to have a permit for it. It has to be moved. The launch was moved to certain length of time. It does the same as our other radar signs through the clock's data. Solar powered. Yeah, exactly. That was my first thought too. How long can it stay in one spot before you have to move it? I want to say 30 days, but I'll know that for sure. But for instance, you could have a school facing for the northbound one day or one month and maybe switch it to the southbound the next month maybe. We'll get to that. Basically, my intention is my intention is probably to order the same thing that we bought in Granville for the most part. Same company. That way the software is the same. But it'll be a different coming in than makes these because they seem to be having some LED issues with these that I've noticed that they don't seem to be lasting. Whether it's the LED or circuitry, I don't know. You're not taking one? I want to work as all the pieces right now. Oh, there you go. I'm looking good, huh? Well, no, I'm actually having some difficulty getting some schematics from the manufacturer. Gotcha. So I'm negotiating that right now. Yeah, so if anything I have I can double check on that. Yeah, it doesn't appear to be the actual LEDs themselves. Or is it actually their current sources that actually operate the LED. Right. They know what these other ones I've noticed some of them aren't working to or starting to have. The issue I haven't looked at these I probably don't dare to. Actually, I was going to ask you the battery pack on that. Do you have the charger for? Yes, I do. Of course the other ones aren't the solar power. But they just make it easier if I have them. I'll be around them. Okay. But yeah, in the problem that I haven't opened these I've got, but I don't agree with the exact same ones that are solar that are not solar power, excuse me. But they've been building up a lot of moisture and I mean literally piling up the water inside. Well, those are, I think that's supposed to be a neemah for a closure. So probably some water. Like I'd say they're rubber seals and all that. But those be a build-up water and I don't know if these have because they've been solar so I've had no reason to open them. So probably how I think about that. So you get, I've seen reports that you provided you get a daily report of the average speed, how many kilometers and the fastest speed. Right. I was amazed on January 25th we had an 80 mile an hour go by. But that could have been an emergency. Hopefully. It was an emergency. How do you obtain that? Is it like a game camera? Is there a chip that you take out? It's the radar that flashes that. So I download it on the computer. I mean I got a lot more data than what you guys get. You get a little card out of that? No, I download it via Bluetooth. So it downloads onto the computer. And it downloads the entire data. Reports, you know, per hour of everything. But that takes up a lot of data. Right, right. So it collects all of that about how fast it goes. How fast the vehicle is going in at the actual time. You can tell that when there's a snow storm a lot less vehicles, a lot slower. Right, exactly. And so I don't give you guys that report but I can go back and look at that report and it'll tell me how long this vehicle is going to last now. Mm-hmm. Yeah, don't usually print that out either. I just load it and look at it. So have you been able to use that data to help when it's better to be stationed? I haven't looked at it. It's been a deep issue as of yet but it does indicate, I think a lot of research load generally gets early morning or late night. It's when you're getting a high speeder screen which is good and bad. At least it's probably nobody running around when you're doing that speed. But also one thing that is deceptive is that the percentage of speeders that's not a good representation because the signs are at the beginning of the speed limit. And it's collecting the data before the speed limit. So it's not a good indication of the problem there in the speed limit. So I don't know. But as far as, you know, the percentage of speeders of mine. So the trailer will be able to position in the middle of the speed-limited area. And it will give you that same data for performance? Exactly. And the newer version will also be able to be used. It'll have you can program it with words in there. Slowdown or whatever. I'm not sure how detail we might be able to get. Candy in the road? Maybe. Maybe. It might be able to save, you know, you might be able to program it for function. Or something instead of different things. But it depends on the top pricing they are. But the newer version, which is newer than the one I got in Granville, those have some options of something working. I've said that I'll earn $8,000 for an amount of money. The one I got in Granville was around $7,200, I think. I know what to give. Yeah. Right. But, like I said, we'll have to think about storage next winter for it. Yeah. Let's talk about the roads. It leads me to Dan talking about the highway. He's starting to slow down a little bit of the road. Sand and salt. I thought it was weekend. I learned that. Hope so. Anything pressing? No. Oh. I just wanted to thank you. I saw the town through that cleaned up all the branches and stuff up of Bethelman Road after the wind storm. Yeah. Because there were a lot when I went over clearing it off, but it was much even better when I came home. You could have hardly told it was the storm. It was really great. They did a great job. Yeah, it was a good storm. It was a good storm, wasn't it? We know that everyone pretty much has powered up up this house. Terry. Brown and Jared pumping number one. It didn't go off on reset, but it set the alarm off because the seal failed. It went off on a sewer on site four. That was last couple of years hasn't pumped as much as the pump two anyway by six, seven gallons a minute. And it was down a little bit lower. I checked it for like two, three days in a row. Now it's back up being marginal again. So and it hasn't set it off again. So I'm assuming probably when I started it back up probably ran a little bit longer than it normally did and overheated it. So I think I failed so it hasn't gone off again. And of course when it first started back up it ran quite a bit longer than normal because you know days versus that phone in there. So I really don't know. Those three-phase pumps? Yes they are. Do they have our interrupters on those to disconnect them completely from all three phases of power fails? Yes. Are they functional? They are. It's just that of course you're talking this pump is the other pump's been replaced it's pump number two and this one hasn't been replaced yet and so it was 15 years. So that's two of two? How many pumps? There's two in there. So I'm just you know I keep going we'll go through it this spring when we do the test on them and we'll see if I haven't threatened to change it. Which is not a big deal to change. I mean you can do that pretty easy. I just it's a 5,000 dollar pump but other than that everything came back on fine. You have power cup. What's the state of the generator by the pump house? No, you need new battery I'm going to put it in. Yep. I know. Mike was supposed to do that and you never did it. So that unit hasn't been running quite some time? I've jumped it. Yep. I didn't let it run probably as long as I should have but it won't start. But he was supposed to do it a month ago. Then I asked him again a couple weeks ago and I don't know. I just he said he hasn't. So I'm just going to get one there. I'll go to the address store and get one tomorrow. Yeah. That's who I was taking it to. But I can take it to whoever. You're bringing it down to if you wasn't going up. Right. We've used it once. Right. And we have no plug-ins for it other than that one. But it's listed in the I can wire it in and direct the pump house and just cover off the electrical plant on it's written in there because that's the way we did during flood. Up to 200 well spread out runners. Various energy levels. What's the date on that? That. I'm just looking for that. In August. On Saturday of the 14th year they've done that. And it's never been a problem in the past. I don't know if we can give them permission to do that again. It's an all in favor. We also have application for use of the town park from Rosta on April 28th for the annual disaster tour fundraiser race and what's the date on that? April 28th. Couple weeks. So I've moved to prove that. All better. April 28th. Reminds me of April 28th also just for your reference take back in drug day which we will be doing that. So is that your new business? I have a question. For years we've always had someone organize green up day and Sarah chased it for years and she's out of school now and everything and I don't think she's doing it. Is there any plan for anyone in town to organize green effect here? There he is right here. I'd like to speak to Matt Desmond. Oh. Do you say anything about it? Well I did it last here and that's pretty much all I know about it. Okay. What's the date of green up day this year? May 5th? Okay. Saturday May 5th. May 5th. Thank you. I was just thinking about that because the snow has melted so much I keep seeing with every guy to go over Bethel Mountain and do treasures. Yeah. So under the old business I guess we should talk some more about the request to you from Dave Harvey to rent the fire station and I am stepping out. And Mark just left but he's talking about the need for storage for the radar trailer and wondering about if outside by the pump house is the best way to store that generator. We better have it inside. We better have it inside. He's also got his other trailer full of stuff which I'm thinking that the town has got a lot of stuff that it could probably be better stored indoors than scattered around the town. There's a fair amount of stuff in the town garage that is in the way. I'm just really questioning whether we should give off that space and as well I think for the amount of money we can get for a warehouse rent it probably makes more sense just to have the town have the storage needs we have. We wouldn't be getting that much money for it. I think it makes sense. That's kind of my thoughts on that. That you're about to do. At this point in time yes. The town could utilize that space to where are we supposed to sell it? We had the option to sell it but for a few reasons we decided that it's probably valuable the town to keep it. It still is our backup potential. Now we don't know what's going to happen with the ambulance squad over the mountain. It's kind of in a little shake up again with what Randolph is going to do or not do. We thought it was in the best interest of the town to keep it in our control. That's our thoughts on that. It also solves a bunch of issues in terms of where we're going to put stuff. We're storing picnic tables and culverts and sooner or later we need to address the issue of we shouldn't be starring in the flood plain down there by the town garage. I think where we're standing on that. Are you on to talk about this? Can you give us an update on the Danny Lane Daycare Building? The update is we have the special select board meeting the town asserted it's interested in taking possession of the building from the school board and the school board there's work being done on the subdivision process that needs to happen before that can happen. I don't know whether that's our intent was communicated that way. I think the school board also well now we have to talk about which school board, the old school board or the new school board. Rochester. So that's it's not a year it's not real clear. Well it's not a year it's still in process but no final decision has been made yet nor can it be until after the subdivisions in place. I just noted that special meeting we had last week on Tuesday or Wednesday so everything that happened there is pretty much still current nothing has really changed. Yes the board the current board has not made a solid decision yet. I was going to put that it was too late to put in the blessings paper and I was going to put it in this week as an update for the town. Thank you. We already knew information on the bingo property. I don't talk about the school school for us. Right. The bingo property is actually set up in a trust with the name of the principal and the students in the trust so if the trust needs to be if the property transfers the trust would need to be dissolved which means it actually needs to go through probate. They have a lawyer doing that now not at this time they have to appropriate funding for that because it's quite expensive to bring something through probate so they're still exploring it. That's a school board then. She said something there was a lawyer working on that in a probate she said. That's how they found out it was set up as a trust. I see. Do we have a copy of the trust on the commission? Nancy's got one. Possibly. I don't have one here. There is a deed that refers to the trust. The deed refers to the trust on the commission. I have a copy of the deed on the trust. I'm just wondering because frequently the trust says if the original trustees are unwilling or unable and then it passes into what should be done so it's the town it's not the school board so as I said last week the school board may be a little ahead of themselves. Can I get put on the hot list any information on that that comes in? In reference to the principal and the students in reference to the principal and the students they could do what they want to do with it today. Is that correct? If they chose to dissolve the trust it's the deed says that it would then refer back to to the town back to the town to the town. So that would be one short cut way of avoiding the whole probate thing? I think so. I think it goes through a quicker probate rather than just a straight out dissolve thing. I don't know for sure. I'm just kind of curious. Does the principal communicate to the students and the students know that they have a situation that they could actually function with this or nobody knows nothing or nobody wants to share anything in the sense of school. It's discussed at the school board meetings so I would suggest that you direct that question to the school board meetings which one just took place at 5.30 today. So onward. I think that is all we have for tonight. We're going to enter into executive session to deal with some personnel issues and then pay the bills and the next meeting will be Monday April 23 so thank you all for coming.